Bangkok Reports

[Sideshow01]

My odd visit to Thermae was a bunch of chicks pretending I was invisible and generally aloof and snobby. And from what it seems in the last few posts, from Eli Tooms bad service is the norm. Compare that to Snow White or other places where BBBJ / CIM and / or legs high in the air and balls deep in either of her holes is considered de rigueur, all reliable, no attitude and very accomplished girls that know how to please a man.

Just allow market forces and competitive tensions correct Thermae and its market distortion.

What is the scene at the soapys right now? Busy? Slow? Two for the price of one?

Closing down for two weeks appears to be the scene.

[Pahllus Maximus]

My odd visit to Thermae was a bunch of chicks pretending I was invisible and generally aloof and snobby. And from what it seems in the last few posts, from Eli Tooms bad service is the norm. Compare that to Snow White or other places where BBBJ / CIM and / or legs high in the air and balls deep in either of her holes is considered de rigueur, all reliable, no attitude and very accomplished girls that know how to please a man.

Just allow market forces and competitive tensions correct Thermae and its market distortion.

What is the scene at the soapys right now? Busy? Slow? Two for the price of one?

[EihTooms]

About 12 days ago I was in 7-11 on Soi 11 listening to the recorded announcement about no more single use plastic bags. When I made my purchase they put my 3 items in a small plastic bag.

7-11 is same as Thermae girls. They promise no plastic, but then you get it anyway.

LOL. Yes, some 7-11's are now asking if you want a plastic bag and they'll give you a plain one without their logo on it, presumably so it can't be traced back to them wrapped around the neck of a baby seal.

Let me go on record fully supporting a system where the girls ASK if we want a condom or not, 7-11 plastic bag style.

[HorseTrader]

Yes, I tried telling the girls I don't use a condom for the same reason 7-11 stopped using plastc bags; "To Save The World! Don't you realize how many baby seals die from discarded condoms?"

But to limited results.

About 12 days ago I was in 7-11 on Soi 11 listening to the recorded announcement about no more single use plastic bags. When I made my purchase they put my 3 items in a small plastic bag.

7-11 is same as Thermae girls. They promise no plastic, but then you get it anyway.

[EihTooms]

In the west, we call that the ol bait and switch. They'll yes you to death then, when the deed is about to happen, They pull that stunt as you described. God, I HATE the Thermae!.

I just had a conversation with a cute Thermae girl last night regarding another kind of Bait and Switch they try to pull all the time. She said no sex (FS) without condom but blowjob without condom is ok for her. I asked how she would finish the blowjob (there were so few people in that bar at 9pm we could actually say the words in normal voice loud enough to be heard just by the two of us).

She looked puzzled by my question. So I asked if she would finish me inside her mouth. Her face switched to a mask of horror and she said, "NO, I use my hand. Cannot finish in mouth!"

I informed her, apparently for the first time in this late 20s year old's rapidly declining P4P career, that finishing by hand is a handjob, not a blowjob.

She said, "No, can use hand to finish. That is a blowjob."

I said, "Fine, give me a blowjob until I am ready to cum, then I will finish inside your pussy no condom and we'll call that a blowjob, too."

Not surprisingly, she did not get the point or the joke. Or pretended not to.

Yep, overall, Thermae girls have been allowed to offer and provide the worst, lowest quality sexual services of any P4P option in the country. Best to lock them in with an upfront agreement for the 2-3 most important things you require and, optimally, with some level of understanding that they will not get paid the agreed upon amount of baht if they don't actually provide those things. Otherwise, walk.

[EihTooms]

So, that's the reason for no condom! All along I thought you were being an environmentalist, not wanting to put excess trash into the environment.

Just kidding. I have the same problem all too often.

Yes, I tried telling the girls I don't use a condom for the same reason 7-11 stopped using plastc bags; "To Save The World! Don't you realize how many baby seals die from discarded condoms?"

But to limited results.

[MeatMan]

I kind of gently nudged her temple to more or less direct her toward putting my dick into her mouth and that was a no go. She asked, "You have condom?" "Well, I might still have one somewhere here. But you remember we talked about why I got a vasectomy many years ago, don't you?"

"Oh, NO. Must have condom to put dick in my mouth! I cannot do that without condom! And for boom boom!"

"uh, well, sorry hon but I can't feel anything and will never stay hard or finish wearing a condom. We talked about that already just a few minutes ago."

"Oh, then I will use my hand," she said with a chuckle and as big a smile as she'd displayed from the time she pleaded with me to take her from Thermae.

"Oh, no thanks, honey. I don't want a handjob. I have a hand and I can reach myself. I don't need a lady for a handjob. I need a lady for boom boom or a blowjob," I said with just as much of a chuckle and smile as she was giving me.

In the west, we call that the ol bait and switch. They'll yes you to death then, when the deed is about to happen, They pull that stunt as you described. God, I HATE the Thermae!.

[HorseTrader]

"uh, well, sorry hon but I can't feel anything and will never stay hard or finish wearing a condom. We talked about that already just a few minutes ago."

So, that's the reason for no condom! All along I thought you were being an environmentalist, not wanting to put excess trash into the environment.

Just kidding. I have the same problem all too often.

[LuvStJohn]

Yes.

HOTMAN.

I am curious too. Perhaps you can provide some recommendations?

The gogo and beer bars I typically go to around Nana / soi 4 don't. It's either ST hotel or another cheap hotel since I prefer not to take back to room.

Thanks in advance.

[Catire]

I will research these products and see if they might help. Thank you for your suggestion.

Out of curiosity. Is your 3 days between pops and cannot use condom an issue even WITH use of dick pills like Viagra?

[EihTooms]

Something else rarely mentioned is that you lose sensitivity in your dick over time, especially if you have a significant amount of sex. There is no cure for that. It's probably a major factor in why so many people risk bareback.

I have never had a successful finish wearing a condom other than once when I was in my 20's. Thought I was going to rupture a vital internal organ to finally squeeze that one out. Now I am 40+ years older and fit your described profile above. I have cute girls in their 20's pestering me to repeat bb sessions with them on a daily basis. No way would I be able to do anything with a condom now.

I understand and appreciate the suggestions from fellow punters to try this or that condom, this or that lube for us bareback punters. Unfortunately, I have tried dozens of different brands and styles over the years without success.

But how about adding to these well intentioned efforts by also suggesting to girls who for various reasons wind up engaging in bareback ways to greatly reduce their long term or life altering health risks?

"You know, honey, you ought to get on a birth control pill regime or keep a pack of Morning After pills on hand. And start requiring your men to produce a recent negative/normal HIV and Syphillis blood check document before agreeimg to boom boom no condom."

I have made that suggestion to girls. Sure, some dude could get a fake test result document. But some dudes already monkey with condoms so they will break, tear or accidentally on purpose slip off during sex too. At least it is better than nothing.

[Berrys66]

Bangkok's bar industry has faced numerous challenges over the past 15 years, but nothing like Covid-19. Trips to Thailand are being cancelled or postponed as fear spreads. No-one wants to contract the virus, and no-one wants to get stuck somewhere, caught out by ever-changing rules and border closures. Soon, the only customers in the bars will be expats. Can the bars survive?

The problem the bars face is simple. Fewer visitors to Thailand means fewer punters in the bars. That means less money being taken by the bar and fewer customers for the girls. And that's a big problem because these girls aren't in it for fun. If they're not making money, they won't stick around. Already, many have seen the writing on the wall and have left the bar. Not for another bar. They have gone home. They'll return when things improve. But when might that be?

A friend whose wife runs an agency supplying a big-name, foreigner-run gogo had this to say, "There is obviously a bit of a panic in the coyote agency world as girls don't want to come to work (which is understandable) and bars can no longer afford to pay the ones that do want to work. Many girls, unable to make ends meet, are returning home. "

For bars using agency girls, all it takes is a phone call to the agency and their daily expenses are slashed. That's a start, but it's not enough.

It's not just about the money – or lack of it – for the girls. Many have chosen to stop working for now because they're genuinely scared of contracting the virus.

First there were fewer customers. That resulted in fewer girls. And now with fewer girls those punters who do make it to the bars find it quiet and less fun. It's a vicious circle.

Bars popular with Asians have been feeling it for a few weeks and over the past couple of weeks, bars popular with Caucasians have been suffering too.

This month is shaping up to be really bad. April will be worse. May is usually the worst month of the year for visitor numbers. Things are dire now, in March, one of the better months of the year. Just how bad will they be in May?

With visitor numbers plummeting, will expats keep the bars going? Unlikely.

I'the be surprised if there aren't widespread bar closures come the end of this month. I just don't think it will be worth it for many owners to stay open beyond the end of March.

But perhaps the bar owners won't have to make that decision themselves. It might just be made for them. The Health Minister commented yesterday that the government should consider closing pubs and bars as they are a fertile ground for spreading the virus. The authorities could order the likes of Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and Patpong closed. After 11 Thais were infected with the virus after a night out at a Thonglor pub earlier in the week, it's the sort of knee-jerk reaction Thai politicians are known for.

But it's not all bad news, and there is an upside for those in Thailand now. Girls are hungry. Some of the younger, prettier dancers who weren't previously available are now open to offers. Word is that rates are very much negotiable.

A friend of a friend making the rounds in Pattaya says that right now it is the best he has seen it in at least 15 years. Far fewer customers around, and the girls are hungry.

At the same time, some girls are more picky. From the owners of Smooci, I hear that in recent weeks escorts have become much more selective about who they choose to meet. They will cancel a booking if they see a Chinese name or merely if the customer is staying in a hotel that is popular with Chinese.

Back to the bars, much of the problem is that rents in Bangkok are crazy high. Would landlords consider discounting rent for a period? And in the unlikely event that a landlord agreed, would it even be enough?

Back to the idea that bars will rely on expats to see them through their darkest hour, I'll leave you with a thought. A regular reader emailed yesterday saying his Thai Mrs had threatened to leave him if he went out to the bars as he often does, like many Thais she is terrified of contracting Covid-19.

It could be months before Covid-19 is brought under control. What sort of economic carnage will it cause? How much longer can the bars stay open with trade so bad? And if bars close and remain closed for a while, will they ever reopen? Are there many bars resilient enough to survive this? Could the bar industry be reshaped forever? The bar industry is facing its darkest hour.

[Streetlooker]

Something else rarely mentioned is that you lose sensitivity in your dick over time, especially if you have a significant amount of sex. There is no cure for that. It's probably a major factor in why so many people risk bareback.

Its the thickening and loosening of the skin on your dick that does it.

[Hotman 666]

Does Bangkok have anything like Soi 6 in Pattaya where bars have rooms upstairs?

Yes.

HOTMAN.

[Rick Rock]

Yes I am pretty much to the point NO Condom or NO sex at all. I have always hated the stoppage of play to put on the condom. Sometimes its that brief moment of time 15-20 seconds that ruins the whole damn session. I can pump her like a oil well for a HR and nothing going to happen cause I don' t feel a damn thing cause my dicks all squeezed together. I take off the condom and bareback her 1 minute later I am finish there is just that big of a difference in sensation. Its the damn squeeze that ruins it all. Even in a Magnum extra large my dicks being squeezed. Forget the Thai or Filipino sized condoms They squeeze the blood right back out and I lose my erection.

Something else rarely mentioned is that you lose sensitivity in your dick over time, especially if you have a significant amount of sex. There is no cure for that. It's probably a major factor in why so many people risk bareback.