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07-14-14 02:33 #28124
Posts: 3682Originally Posted by Phordphan [View Original Post]
Nana disco used to be awesome. You could head in about 1230 am (they closed at 2 am), do a lap, make eye contact, and boom you were golden.
Also the street scene was quite good. You could wander the odd side of Suk and meet countless girls. You could not go 50 meters without running into gals on the game every night. Now Lower Suk is just an ugly place. Dirty, full of an amazingly nasty demographic. I can't blame gals for not wanting to be there. It used to be just tourists and Western mongers. Now, Yesh!
Thermae started picking up about 1100 pm and stayed open till 6 am. GoGo gals who did not get BF would head there and by 230 the place was packed. Between Nana the and Thermae the FL scene on lower Suk was pretty amazing and required little to no effort. Oh, and if you were in Cowboy or Nana at closing gals who did not score a customer that night (and there were always scads of them) could be had as they were coming out of work. "Go with you" would be heard like an echo. You had to shoo them off like flies. Now they make so much cash they have no need to do that. It is work to find a good FL these days.
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07-14-14 00:13 #28123
Posts: 3192Originally Posted by PinkPearl [View Original Post]
However, I suggest you look at a few demographic studies. In fact, somebody posted one to Stickman's site a while ago, but I'm too lazy to find it. It had a very cogent analysis, along with visual aids. The cold, hard, fact of the matter is that the birth rate in Thailand has dropped through floor. Fewer girls mean fewer girls in the P4 P industry, no matter how you want to sugar coat it.
Add to that the booming economy, where women now don't have to work in a bar unless they want to. The result is that the dregs tend to wind up in the farang-oriented bars. Again, this is inarguable.
Personally, I think the freelance market is picking up. As the entire market changes into a short time Tourist-oriented one, the FL scene becomes a better alternative. No expensive lady drinks, no ridiculous bar fines, less BS overall.
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07-14-14 00:11 #28122
Posts: 1232Originally Posted by PinkPearl [View Original Post]
Sure, dating sites offer more choice now in that segment, but that's comparing apples and oranges. For a Thai-speaking white guy under 50, I doubt dating Thai girls was ever much of a problem. Granted, it's a boon for the subset of guys looking for a relationship, who can use the internet but lack in people skills or Thai language skills.
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07-14-14 00:03 #28121
Posts: 3192Originally Posted by PinkPearl [View Original Post]
Personally, I never thought time spent in bars, learning the ins and outs of the game, getting to know and hang with the girls, a waste of time. Sure, I didn't get to pork 20 girls in 5 days, but that was never the point.
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07-13-14 22:50 #28120
Posts: 392Originally Posted by EricSwiss [View Original Post]
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07-13-14 22:47 #28119
Posts: 392Originally Posted by Bigatl164 [View Original Post]
Because of the heat, I spent way more time in the room than anywhere else, but the trendy apts do have a nice pool deck FWIW.
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07-13-14 19:33 #28118
Posts: 1This month
Soi cowboy – CH. Very worried about ages, I know teens are present and would not want to accidentally get on the wrong end of the law.
Nana – Playskool - 85? Nice figure, slightly acne scarred face, been away for a bit with "bf", prepared to bareback.
Nana – Playskool. Kaew – getting 40 k from one absent dude and another 20 k from a 2nd back home, happy to have fun.
Nana. DC-10 - Small bar and not much talent, but can get away with quite a lot in the bar, one (sorry no name or number, Non?) very big squirter.
Nana. Car park FL – a couple who won't stop calling but the one who can't call (deaf) was great non-stop multi-pop.
Saphan Kwai – TDED99 – Very random, get what they sit down next to you (not got the guts to ask one to leave and choose another) but one of the best experiences when air-con cut out in ST hotel.
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07-13-14 18:13 #28117
Posts: 3682Originally Posted by PinkPearl [View Original Post]
Sadly I am way more savvy. I speak the language, know the tricks, and see what is accessible and in the P4 P realm it is not so great. In fact, you are about the only resident I have heard say it is better now than it was.
If you were to talk about "dating" then I might agree with you. There are plenty of late 20's early 30's gals out there to date, but we are talking P4 P here.
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07-13-14 18:06 #28116
Posts: 63I loved my time there. Planning to go back in Dec. I suggest spend your time on the forum and read up and you will be well prepared! I stayed the whole time at Dream Hotel, but for Dec. I am exploring other options as studio apartments as well. Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions.
Originally Posted by RSP2000 [View Original Post]
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07-13-14 17:45 #28115
Posts: 670Originally Posted by Dornyone [View Original Post]
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07-13-14 14:53 #28114
Posts: 1454Originally Posted by Goatscrot [View Original Post]
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07-13-14 13:38 #28113
Posts: 1749Originally Posted by Goatscrot [View Original Post]
My point is that it's better now, to those who are willing & able to adapt with the changing times & take advantage of the information age with its technology. Others who don't evolve get left behind, always frustrated & disappointed, ever sadly reminiscing about days of old.
IME things just get better over the years, as I become an increasingly more savy punter from the newbie who arrived in LOS years ago.
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07-13-14 11:47 #28112
Posts: 155Originally Posted by Dornyone [View Original Post]
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07-13-14 08:21 #28111
Posts: 2502Originally Posted by Dornyone [View Original Post]
And you found out that social control in Thailand is rather strict and there are eyes everywhere? Actually, it is only as strict as you let it be. Just smile as you walk past. Of course, you will not get the same kind of service from your mamasan anymore. Even in LOS you cannot eat your cake and still have it too.
Everyone of us will have had a less stellar experience from time to time, but even my worst sessions in SE Asia still rated much better than the average of my sessions in Europe. And it is cheap in Thailand to forget the bad session with a much better one, a few hours later.
The weather is something you will have to suffer, unless you limit your stay in Thailand to the "high season" period (November. February). Travel and accomodation will be more expensive; the agogo clubs will be more crowded with punters; there will be more competition for the better girls; ... up to you to see if the cooler weather warrants all of that.
But let these small hick-ups not spoil your appetite to come back. It is my personal experience that the more time you spend here, the better you become in more easily discovering the good providers and enjoying your trip even better.
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07-13-14 06:52 #28110
Posts: 357Originally Posted by Dornyone [View Original Post]
I'm not sure what the mistake was. Getting your brains fucked out definitely qualifies as an accomplishment rather than a failure. That's pretty much the objective.
Maybe the mistake was not changing hotels halfway through?
Eric