Bangkok Reports

[WhatTheFack]

General questions:

- how far would it be expected that a typical freelancer or barfined gogo girl be willing to go in a taxi, to someone's room? Is 30 minutes reasonable and when done, you pay her return taxi fare on top?

- awkward question but if in a 69 position getting BBBJ, what exactly is the protocol when the guy is ready to pop and nothing has been negotiated beforehand? I was previously in this position with a freelancer and I wonder what would have happened if I just kept going, as I instead stopped the action and finished on the girl's leg. She didn't look too thrilled, but I'm not sure what is a more graceful method or place to finish.

I notice most girls on fiwfans charge 400 baht for CIM so would the freelancer have applied an additional fee afterwards?

I don't personally care for CIM, but I'm just curious as to what would have happened.

[WhatTheFack]

If I do not speak Thai, how can I find girls who speak English and how can I connect with them?

When you message the girl on line, you'll either be talking to an agency who facilitates the meeting or the girl herself.

If they reply in English, you can assume they are happy to deal with English speaking foreigners. If they ignore you, they probably can't be bothered dealing with a foreigner, which is fair enough. You can try with a different girl.

You tell them when you want to book and for how long, and they'll give you instructions to go to a hotel and a particular room number.

[WhatTheFack]

1st time posting here, although been a member for a while. Just wanted to share my experience regarding Thermae yesterday.

Picked the girl, petite girl around 1. 55-1. 6 m dressed in white, mid 20-ish. Went up to the room at the Ruamchitt upstairs and that's when the drama began. She demanded to be paid upfront, I rejected and said the norm was to pay after. Back and forth for a minute or so, I just said forget it I have already paid foe the room it but you can go back down.

She wanted to be teinbursed because she said I "wasted her time". Bear in mind, this was roughly about 2-3 minutes from when we met in the bar and we were both still fully clothed at this point.

I refused and she promptly went insane and lunged at me. Nasty scratches on my arm and bleeding. Suffice to say, I didn't lay a finger on her.

Not sure what I should have done. Call the police?

Freelancers I think, are just a lot more unpredictable than if you go to a gogo bar or massage parlor.

I think you made a lot of fuss out of nothing. I think it's totally reasonable and to pay up front if she prefers that. There are scenarios where guys solicit services and then leave without paying. Even outside of Thailand, it is commonly industry standard that you pay beforehand.

What exactly are you wanting to achieve by paying after? Are you not going to pay her properly if you don't like the service?

She had to provide her ID to get in to thermae and she probably frequents it. It's not like she's going to grab your cash and then sprint away.

You did waste her time so I can see how she wouldn't be happy. You are too paranoid.

[Lcale1982]

If I do not speak Thai, how can I find girls who speak English and how can I connect with them?

Thank you for the great report! When I come in September, if you are still here, may be ha can get a cap of coffee together?

__Y.

I was able to book without knowing any thai if that's what you're asking. Most didn't speak much english, one was pretty good out of the 5 or so I saw.

[Yuri B]

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As for fiwfans, it isn't perfect but at it's the best out there right now (imo). There could be fake reviews but they won't be able to hide bad reviews, so take bad reviews with a high degree of consideration.

If I do not speak Thai, how can I find girls who speak English and how can I connect with them?

Thank you for the great report! When I come in September, if you are still here, may be ha can get a cap of coffee together?

__Y.

[WhatTheFack]

I've found that 1 lady drink (rarely 2) is a good way to decide how my personality matches with a go go girl's personality. How does she smile at me? How does she move? How does her touch feel? Does she snuggle close to me with arms and legs around me or does she just sit next to me? For me, several lady drinks would be a waste of time and money. But 1 drink for me and one for her is about 400 baht well spent.

How do you learn those things with FIWFANS? I sometimes can't tell if a review is from an impartial poster or from a shill. It is even more difficult to determine if she will react the same to me as she reacted to the reviewer.

That's a legit approach and sounds good.

Maybe I've just read too many reports lately of people paying 2000 baht for drinks and then not even barfining.

As for fiwfans, it isn't perfect but at it's the best out there right now (imo). There could be fake reviews but they won't be able to hide bad reviews, so take bad reviews with a high degree of consideration.

Also the thai guys seem to treat it like a sport in the way they post their reviews with pics in the telegram channels. I don't particularly see why they would falsify their reviews to each other.

Further to your point about whether a girl will respond differently to you rather than another reviewer? Could be a consideration but if a girl has 8 pages of good reviews, that's a decent amount of data.

That said, some profiles do say no black or Indians, and very occasionally it says no foreigners, so it could depend on who you are. Same thing applies with girls off the street though, of which you have zero data to go off.

[HorseTrader]

….I have similar views to trip reports where people say they get a HJ inside a gogo and end up paying more money in lady drinks than you'd pay for 40 minutes of real FS in a hotel. Why people would want that. I have no idea.

Anyway, that's my rant.

Good thing about fiwfans as well is you have reviews as well as photo reviews, so you can develop a way more educated opinion before committing to something.

I've found that 1 lady drink (rarely 2) is a good way to decide how my personality matches with a go go girl's personality. How does she smile at me? How does she move? How does her touch feel? Does she snuggle close to me with arms and legs around me or does she just sit next to me? For me, several lady drinks would be a waste of time and money. But 1 drink for me and one for her is about 400 baht well spent.

How do you learn those things with FIWFANS? I sometimes can't tell if a review is from an impartial poster or from a shill. It is even more difficult to determine if she will react the same to me as she reacted to the reviewer.

[WhatTheFack]

Pretty judgemental for a guy traveling to third world countries to fuck desperate young women for small sums of money arent you? You are disgusting. Not really but making a point. Let others do as they please and you make your own choices.

Which part has offended you, sir?

Are you a fan of guys sitting right next to you getting HJ under the table or you want to sit right next to a guy trying desperately some DATY as the girl tries to pull away?

Others can do as they please. I'm just communicating that in my opinion, I don't see why you would want to jizz in a crowded room with guys sitting around, when for an even cheaper price, you can go and fck a girl privately? And it is also pretty hygienic.

Well, the ethics of prostitution. The girls can make a lot of money and raise their standard of living for their family / avoid super difficult farm work. It's not an ideal world we live in but I am ok with the ethics of P4P, at present.

[Cigarist]

1st time posting here, although been a member for a while. Just wanted to share my experience regarding Thermae yesterday.

Picked the girl, petite girl around 1. 55-1. 6 m dressed in white, mid 20-ish. Went up to the room at the Ruamchitt upstairs and that's when the drama began. She demanded to be paid upfront, I rejected and said the norm was to pay after. Back and forth for a minute or so, I just said forget it I have already paid foe the room it but you can go back down.

She wanted to be teinbursed because she said I "wasted her time". Bear in mind, this was roughly about 2-3 minutes from when we met in the bar and we were both still fully clothed at this point.

I refused and she promptly went insane and lunged at me. Nasty scratches on my arm and bleeding. Suffice to say, I didn't lay a finger on her.

Not sure what I should have done. Call the police?

Freelancers I think, are just a lot more unpredictable than if you go to a gogo bar or massage parlor.

I'll be in Bangkok in a few months and considering trying fiwfans for the entire trip. I've only used it twice but both times had a very good experience. I feel like nothing compares to this. If everything works out, you get youngest girls and Thai prices.

I think thermae sucks. Uncomfortable atmosphere with a bunch of mostly boring looking unattractive women who cater to Japanese businessmen. Prices are not the greatest either.

Using thaifriendly is annoying because it is paid. Even when using that and tinder, it's just real annoying and you don't know what the girls look like.

As for gogo, I find it good for having a drink for entertainment purposes or taking a girl if she's super hot. But people who buy lady drinks. I don't really see the point. Also guys who get sexual services inside the gogo are just gross. I once sat at the stage and had a dirty old man next to me pulling down the pants of a girl on stage and eating her out. I mean. Pretty damn close and totally unnecessary. Go and get a room so it isn't 1 metre from me.

I have similar views to trip reports where people say they get a HJ inside a gogo and end up paying more money in lady drinks than you'd pay for 40 minutes of real FS in a hotel. Why people would want that. I have no idea.

Anyway, that's my rant.

Good thing about fiwfans as well is you have reviews as well as photo reviews, so you can develop a way more educated opinion before committing to something.

I wish this existed in the past. Story time: the first time ever that I was with a Thai girl was nana plaza in upstairs short time room. Girl was rude, she went starfish for a little while but barely even had FS before she stopped, wouldn't even let me touch her further. Ended up finishing myself off. Then on the way out, she asks me for taxi money even though we didn't go anywhere, then she asks me to tip the laundry lady, both of which I did. Well, luckily I am more wise now.

[Expat American]

I'll be in Bangkok in a few months and considering trying fiwfans for the entire trip. I've only used it twice but both times had a very good experience. I feel like nothing compares to this. If everything works out, you get youngest girls and Thai prices.

I think thermae sucks. Uncomfortable atmosphere with a bunch of mostly boring looking unattractive women who cater to Japanese businessmen. Prices are not the greatest either.

Using thaifriendly is annoying because it is paid. Even when using that and tinder, it's just real annoying and you don't know what the girls look like.

As for gogo, I find it good for having a drink for entertainment purposes or taking a girl if she's super hot. But people who buy lady drinks. I don't really see the point. Also guys who get sexual services inside the gogo are just gross. I once sat at the stage and had a dirty old man next to me pulling down the pants of a girl on stage and eating her out. I mean. Pretty damn close and totally unnecessary. Go and get a room so it isn't 1 metre from me.

I have similar views to trip reports where people say they get a HJ inside a gogo and end up paying more money in lady drinks than you'd pay for 40 minutes of real FS in a hotel. Why people would want that. I have no idea.

Anyway, that's my rant.

Good thing about fiwfans as well is you have reviews as well as photo reviews, so you can develop a way more educated opinion before committing to something.

I wish this existed in the past. Story time: the first time ever that I was with a Thai girl was nana plaza in upstairs short time room. Girl was rude, she went starfish for a little while but barely even had FS before she stopped, wouldn't even let me touch her further. Ended up finishing myself off. Then on the way out, she asks me for taxi money even though we didn't go anywhere, then she asks me to tip the laundry lady, both of which I did. Well, luckily I am more wise now.

Pretty judgemental for a guy traveling to third world countries to fuck desperate young women for small sums of money arent you? You are disgusting. Not really but making a point. Let others do as they please and you make your own choices.

[BionicMan]

She was taking breaks and doing drugs, meaning yaba aka "ice"

My thought too.

[GrapeMan]

Unfortunately, she was also making regular bathroom runs and seemed more energetic after every trip. On her third trip upstairs around 2 am, she was gone for at least 15 minutes and I almost left but some of the other woman and now lady boy customers were pretty entertaining to watch so stuck around until she reappeared, this time even more tipsy than before.

We reverted back to heavy petting each other. While I thinking about taking her back to my place, I noticed she was also getting more and more spacey or maybe showing the effects of the 5 drinks she consumed. The band kept playing on until 3 am as they closed the main curtain to the street, though the doors were open to enter for anyone. So at 3 am, my lady friend left again for another bathroom trip. After waiting 15 minutes, I gave my LINE number ID to the waitress and asked her to deliver it to her as I figured by now she was too drunk or incapacitated for any room action.

On balance, there were some cute, young, and crazy ladies in there. Two of the younger ones were dancing up a storm near the band flashing their panties and crotches to everyone within viewing distance. There appeared to be a general mode of raunchy behavior in there so something has changed business wise since my last visit inJanuary for the better I would say, but the waitresses and mama San were a bit too aggressive. It got annoying after a while. Plus, as a result, my gal became so drunk, I did not consider her barfineable, though I never asked if there was a barfine so not sure how that works since my gal disappeared at the end, probably passed out upstairs where the lockers and bathrooms are located.

Wondering if anyone else has been there and your thoughts?

She was taking breaks and doing drugs, meaning yaba aka "ice"

[GrapeMan]

Aloha! I'm looking forward to my first trip to Thailand, this coming May. Germany, Amsterdam, Bonaire, Curacao, all over the US, Canada, and Japan have seen me monger but this will be the first time to Thailand.

My plane arrives around midnight and I figure it'll be 1:30 am or so by the time I get to my AB&b which is about a 10 minute walk to Nana Plaza. Now I know myself well enough to know that I'll be both horney and tired by that point. A quick stop at a BJ bar would seem to be the perfect choice but it also seems that they will all be closed by then. At that hour, if one doesn't want to go to a loud club, are FLs the best option for a quick, easy, squirt before sleeping?

Many thanks for the reports and learning, can't wait to arrive.

BJ bars are probably closed, or will be by the time you find them and deal with it since its your first time in Thailand and you'll need to get your bearings.

Along Soi 4 near Nana there will still be a whole ton of freelancers along the street, primarily, on the other side of the street than the actual Nana plaza. You'll see them, you can't miss it. But being late you some of the top talent will be gone, or maybe not, just stroll along Soi 4 once or twice and check out what's available. There will be a lot of choices, so it can be difficult, so if you find one you like, just go for it, otherwise you'll never decide

[WhatTheFack]

I'll be in Bangkok in a few months and considering trying fiwfans for the entire trip. I've only used it twice but both times had a very good experience. I feel like nothing compares to this. If everything works out, you get youngest girls and Thai prices.

I think thermae sucks. Uncomfortable atmosphere with a bunch of mostly boring looking unattractive women who cater to Japanese businessmen. Prices are not the greatest either.

Using thaifriendly is annoying because it is paid. Even when using that and tinder, it's just real annoying and you don't know what the girls look like.

As for gogo, I find it good for having a drink for entertainment purposes or taking a girl if she's super hot. But people who buy lady drinks. I don't really see the point. Also guys who get sexual services inside the gogo are just gross. I once sat at the stage and had a dirty old man next to me pulling down the pants of a girl on stage and eating her out. I mean. Pretty damn close and totally unnecessary. Go and get a room so it isn't 1 metre from me.

I have similar views to trip reports where people say they get a HJ inside a gogo and end up paying more money in lady drinks than you'd pay for 40 minutes of real FS in a hotel. Why people would want that. I have no idea.

Anyway, that's my rant.

Good thing about fiwfans as well is you have reviews as well as photo reviews, so you can develop a way more educated opinion before committing to something.

I wish this existed in the past. Story time: the first time ever that I was with a Thai girl was nana plaza in upstairs short time room. Girl was rude, she went starfish for a little while but barely even had FS before she stopped, wouldn't even let me touch her further. Ended up finishing myself off. Then on the way out, she asks me for taxi money even though we didn't go anywhere, then she asks me to tip the laundry lady, both of which I did. Well, luckily I am more wise now.

[Tomasb]

Last night I went to this club on Soi Cowboy located on the corner of Soi 23 named in the subject Title. I had been there a couple of times before in January as they offer live music, fairly amiable surroundings, and relatively inexpensive drinks. There appeared to be a few FL's in there on my prior visits but none that struck my fancy so I did not pursue anyone. However, on this visit, I had barely ordered my drink when a mama san type brought over a young gal to introduce and naturally for me to buy her a lady drink. Initially surprised, I declined and they accepted my decision graciously. A few minutes, a slightly older gal came by; again I declined. Then about two or three minutes, a svelte young thing in a tight dress came over and again I said no. Mainly, I was trying to decide if I wanted to get in the Buy me Drink trap or leave for greener pastures.

During this time frame, an attractive, kind of cute lady with a very nice body and honey blond hair came by, not once, but twice. Finally, I made an executive decision to stay a bit and see how it played out. I ended up buying her five drinks at 200b a pop, plus two for me at 90b each. My drink was Smirnoff on the rocks. Think she was drinking Sansomg. As time moved along, we got quite handsy with each other, some light kissing, many times I was encouraged to stick my finger on her snatch though she joked that she had three layer of panties on underneath her plaid skirt. Unfortunately, she was also making regular bathroom runs and seemed more energetic after every trip. On her third trip upstairs around 2 am, she was gone for at least 15 minutes and I almost left but some of the other woman and now lady boy customers were pretty entertaining to watch so stuck around until she reappeared, this time even more tipsy than before.

We reverted back to heavy petting each other. While I thinking about taking her back to my place, I noticed she was also getting more and more spacey or maybe showing the effects of the 5 drinks she consumed. The band kept playing on until 3 am as they closed the main curtain to the street, though the doors were open to enter for anyone. So at 3 am, my lady friend left again for another bathroom trip. After waiting 15 minutes, I gave my LINE number ID to the waitress and asked her to deliver it to her as I figured by now she was too drunk or incapacitated for any room action.

On balance, there were some cute, young, and crazy ladies in there. Two of the younger ones were dancing up a storm near the band flashing their panties and crotches to everyone within viewing distance. There appeared to be a general mode of raunchy behavior in there so something has changed business wise since my last visit inJanuary for the better I would say, but the waitresses and mama San were a bit too aggressive. It got annoying after a while. Plus, as a result, my gal became so drunk, I did not consider her barfineable, though I never asked if there was a barfine so not sure how that works since my gal disappeared at the end, probably passed out upstairs where the lockers and bathrooms are located.

Wondering if anyone else has been there and your thoughts?