Bangkok Reports

[Achmmc]

I'm pretty sure that Smooci.com is going to put a pretty big dent in escorts services in BKK.

[XXL]

So; your opinions of Thai woman and the Thailand P4 P scene are based on a single random website?

Not random. I had first picked the Bangkok escort site that advertises on this forum but I thought better of it and replaced it by one that doesn't advertise here. The one that advertises had a much worse line-up though.

Here you see quite a few faces. Most importantly, you see flesh. No photoshop. Some of these pics give me a tingling in the trouser department:

http://www.goldentime.de/index.php/preise/girls

[MagicSheep74]

Upon looking at the website's you provided I agree, but I just spent 3 days for approximately 6 hours a day in FKK Oase, Palace and Sharks and never found anything stunning. I found a lot of slim Romanian girl who I would rate a 7/10, but nothing more attractive than that. Don't get me wrong, I have seen some stunning Eastern Chicks in my life, but just not in the FKK's in the last few years.

Last December I was in Thailand for a week, and although I have been several times to Bangkok I have still never used an Escort site. With so many other options for getting laid, I just have never felt the need to take that chance. I much prefer to establish a little chemistry and see what I am taking back to my hotel before I pay.

Maybe I was lucky this time in Bangkok, but I can say with complete confidence that the Freelancers I took back to my hotel from the High End Clubs in Bangkok were much more attractive than anything I seen in the FKKS. Not only that, they had much more pleasant personalities, were much more fun to be with, and cost $150 for 12 hours of there time.

Undoubtedly, both FKK's and Bangkok are both excellent in there own right. For me personally though, if I was mongering in Europe I would choose the Spanish clubs over the FKK's for short time sex. In these clubs there are no entrance costs, and you get an excellent mix of Latin and Eastern European Women for approx 70 euro for 30 minutes. Rather than 95% Romanians, which as a culture are normally ruthless, emotionless robots.

Cheers.

[Syzygies]

So; your opinions of Thai woman and the Thailand P4 P scene are based on a single random website?

LOL you should have resisted.

SL.

+1 on that. There are plenty of web sites not impressing me, however I am not even going to look at that one. I assume that plenty of guys will think the girls there look pretty damn good (even it may not be my taste). I am sure they don't generally look like LBs, regardless of height. Do we have some gross exaggeration?

P.S. Sharks has very limited stunners for face looks. Some good bodies, yes. It all depends on personal taste. There is no stunning girl pulling me back there consistently.

[Banana Boi]

Compare the girls to the LU at Oase, Sharks or any of the good FKKs. Which of the two are WAAAAY better-looking?

I haven't been to Oase or Sharks for a while. Any face pics to show us so we can compare?

[Sunlover2]

I couldn't resist chipping in on this controversy. Look at this website (Bangkok Escort). If I'm not mistaken it is supposed to feature "top" girls.

https://www.absolute-angels-bangkok.com/all-girls

So; your opinions of Thai woman and the Thailand P4 P scene are based on a single random website?

LOL you should have resisted.

SL.

[XXL]

I couldn't resist chipping in on this controversy. Look at this website (Bangkok Escort). If I'm not mistaken it is supposed to feature "top" girls.

https://www.absolute-angels-bangkok.com/all-girls

Compare the girls to the LU at Oase, Sharks or any of the good FKKs. Which of the two are WAAAAY better-looking?

First off, the Thai girls have geezer's faces. If they were just a bit taller they could easily pass as ladyboys.

Second, many Thai girls are positioning themselves so as to hide their lower body. Look ma no butt!

Third, the pics are photoshopped, which is never a good sign.

I thought I'd unearthed a real stunner among them untill I noticed she was a he (https://www.absolute-angels-bangkok.com/gallery/guitar-age-20-ladyboy-163)

[Goatscrot]

Oh ya? Where can you find good cheap free lancers in Jakarta? Even the girls at the down market Blok M bars charge 1 million rupiah if they are good looking. I don't consider the girls at Lokasari worth taking home so I am excluding them. It's rare to find any girl there who I'd rate above a 6 out of 10. I'd put those Lokasari girls in the same category as the girls standing in front of Nana hotel. I've lived in Jakarta for 20 years. In the past, there were plenty of free lancers and they were reasonably priced. Now the market has completely changed. The best looking girls now work in brothels with 1 hour short time rooms. The days where you could chat up a hot free lancer over a beer and take her home for a decent price disappeared about 10 years ago. I was in Bangkok the past week and took what I consider to be a true stunner home almost every night. It cost bar fine plus 2500 baht short time, but the quality was good. I find it hard to find free lance of that quality in Jakarta unless it's extremely expensive.

Not a FL guy. Prefer the brothels. And the chat app scene is quite vibrant and less expensive than the hotel bars.

[Kurre]

There are for sure exceptions from the venues you mentioned. If you go to Grimbergsauna (Gelsenkirchen) or FKK Arabella (Bochum) you pay 30 Euro (roughly 1. 200 THB) entrance fee and 30 minutes with all inclusive (incl. Anal, CIM) will cost 1. 200 THB on top. Most girls are from Romania or Bulgaria, most of them are no stunners, but usually more than doable. IMHO great bang for your buck.

I had the best sex and best service there . . . outside of Thailand ; )

I have to put those two places on my list.

For about 10 years I have been frequenting (time and money allowing) the big FKKs in Berlin and Hessen, spending 400-900 euros per day. Last December I made two visits to Dietzenbach and had a total of five sessions (including 3 threesomes) for less than 240 euros (plus 2 x 40 euro entrance fee). I enjoyed those visits as much as I have enjoyed the FKKs which have more stunners. This February I spent 6 days in Angeles and went well below my 200 euro daily budget (excluding accommodation and airfare) and had two of the best sexual encounters of my life.

For a mongering vacation, my current situation allows for budgeting about 3000 euros / week. Even a one week trip to Bkk from Europe becomes worthwhile if you buy your tickets in advance (500 euros) and stay in reasonably cheap accommodation (1000 baht / night). That would leave about 12 000 baht for food, local transportation and mongering. For 12 000 bahts, you could have multiple sessions at soapies and MPs, spend 2 hours with four ladies at Tulip, spend few hours or a night with 2 or 3 FLs or have some combination of above. Airfare to Germany plus a cheap (40 euro / night) hotel for a week will set me back about 440 euros. That would leave 365 euros for food, transportation (I would not want to spend 7 consecutive days at one FKK) and the hobby. I would feel very limited with my choices (threesomes, CIM, anal) with that budget in a big FKK.

For variety on a budget, Bangkok is currently my number one choice. I also agree with BananaBoi on the kindheartedness of Thais. I have been toying, though, with the idea of starting my trip to Thailand from Frankfurt with maybe a stopover in HKG or SIN on the way back.

[Jude Bright]

I spent 5 years going to FKK clubs and amassed well over 500+ club visits. Is it really cheaper in Germany? First you have to pay 2,600 baht or so for club entry. Then you need to rent a car at about 10,000 baht per week to go to the various clubs, especially in the best FKK area, Dusseldorf. Hotels are comparable in price as there are good cheap accommodations in both countries. There are VERY few hot German girls working in Germany. It's mainly Romanians most without much passion. 1840 baht per 30 minutes so 1 hour is 3,680 baht. Add to that an extra 1,840 baht per each of CIM, anal, COB, etc. DFK is also not a guarantee. Soon BBBJ will be at least another 1,840 baht. People complain about how expensive even a gogo girl is but I get them on their days off so no barfine and 3000-4000 baht for up to 18 hours. 1 hour at a place like Soi 6 in Pattaya for 1,350 baht. CIM, anal, etc. all included. Sure not all the Thai girls are hot but the same can be said for most of the Romanians. A top looker Romanian is super hot but top gogo girls in Pattaya and BKK ain't too shabby either.

As for Switzerland, just double the price of everything in Germany. Hotels maybe triple.

I do not have an Asian bias. In fact, for my entire life I preferred Caucasian girls over Asian girls yet I still think Thailand is a clear winner over Germany. The passion and kindheartedness some of these Thai girls have is amazing. 5 years of Romanians and I think I met maybe 3 of them with the same characteristics.

Well said.

Jb.

[Zauberfee]

I spent 5 years going to FKK clubs and amassed well over 500+ club visits. Is it really cheaper in Germany?

There are for sure exceptions from the venues you mentioned. If you go to Grimbergsauna (Gelsenkirchen) or FKK Arabella (Bochum) you pay 30 Euro (roughly 1. 200 THB) entrance fee and 30 minutes with all inclusive (incl. Anal, CIM) will cost 1. 200 THB on top. Most girls are from Romania or Bulgaria, most of them are no stunners, but usually more than doable. IMHO great bang for your buck.

I had the best sex and best service there . . . outside of Thailand ; )

[Asian Rain]

Funny how you just quoted the high end numbers of my post. What about the 1,900-2,500?

Funny how you didn't get past the first paragraph of my post. If you had, you would have seen that I also benchmarked to short time, which was also about the same.

If it had been a short time (which was my original intention), then I could have knocked off PHP2,000, which still keeps it on par with BKK.

Will try to type slower next time. Huhu. Enjoy BKK, AsianRain.

[Member #4591]

Assuming that THB4,000 just for the girl's service, if you add on the 700 b bar fine and very minimalist drinks / tip of 500 b, then you end up at THB5,200 "total cost" for a better end go go bar LT experience. That's circa USD150.

Interestingly, I just got back from Manila where I went to the EDSA Complex go go bars and did a takeout. Damage was exactly the same. Bar was PHP1,950 barfine plus p400 for minimalist drinks. LT was PHP5,000, so total was PHP7,350 all-in, which is the equivalent of THB5,100. So cost was pretty much at par. The quality I got was every bit as good, if not better, than anything I could have gotten at the subjectively "better" go go venues like Crazy House, etc. In BKK. In fact, for me it was absolutely better. The quality and experience I had from this girl was so good during our first round that I kept her overnight, something that I hadn't done in over 7 years (if that says anything). If it had been a short time (which was my original intention), then I could have knocked off PHP2,000, which still keeps it on par with BKK.

The cost for high quality from tourist or "public-oriented" venues like go go bars has gotten way out of hand. But it is what it is. If you can't afford it, then I say to mongers better to manage your expectations. If your wallet is a constraint, you can try your luck in freelance bars, try the soapies/oilies, use chat apps or trawl the streets for alternatives.

Cost being what it is, if I were living in Southern California I would be driving down to Mexico to live like a sex tourist king on the devalued peso. Exchange rates matter, but only in limited temporal cases IMHO and the market adjusts quickly. I find the discussion below interesting not for the bickering about price, but more from the angle that shows that mongers have an immense variety of choices to make and, depending on their diverse (or perverse) preferences, they can choose a wide variety of venues with product to suit tastes and budgets. Thailand being what it is today, no way would I cram myself into an economy class seat for 10+ hours to pay for what is on the public menu at most Asian venues today. ASIA IS NOT A CHEAP QUALITY FUCK DESTINATION ANYMORE. Enjoy Thailand, AsianRain.

Funny how you just quoted the high end numbers of my post. What about the 1,900-2,500? And what about if I choose a freelancer at Climax for example? What barfine? I find these price discussions very old but when I see a member post something completely inaccurate, I will speak op.

[Vrsabien]

The average price of a free lancer in Jakarta is close to 100 usd. So free lancers are not cheap in Jakarta. If you are looking for a non free lance experience with a down market brothel girl for one hour in a room inside that brothel, yes, those are cheap. I prefer bringing girls to my own room, so I actually prefer Bangkok over Jakarta. It's about the same price to bring a girl to your room in Jakarta or Bangkok, but there are more options for that in Bangkok. Most of the action in jakarta are brothels where taking a girl out of there is cost prohibitive.

Yeah I agree with this. I like splurging on a top hotel and taking girl there but can only do it easy at Bangkok (although not easy with the 101 Premiere girls).

Finding girls in Jakarta for the hotel not easy, I make plans with brothel girls for hotel visit after they finish but they always too tired after since finishing at midnight or later and then its just a waste.

But yeah some of the Jakarta brothel rooms are way better than Bangkok massage rooms, so its a trade off.

To add a third country, I like KL and the fact you can hit their brothels / hotel brothels till 6 am. Not sure you can do that in Jakarta or where to do that in Bangkok.

[Smoothy]

Not that expensive if you stay out of the hotel bars.

Oh ya? Where can you find good cheap free lancers in Jakarta? Even the girls at the down market Blok M bars charge 1 million rupiah if they are good looking. I don't consider the girls at Lokasari worth taking home so I am excluding them. It's rare to find any girl there who I'd rate above a 6 out of 10. I'd put those Lokasari girls in the same category as the girls standing in front of Nana hotel. I've lived in Jakarta for 20 years. In the past, there were plenty of free lancers and they were reasonably priced. Now the market has completely changed. The best looking girls now work in brothels with 1 hour short time rooms. The days where you could chat up a hot free lancer over a beer and take her home for a decent price disappeared about 10 years ago. I was in Bangkok the past week and took what I consider to be a true stunner home almost every night. It cost bar fine plus 2500 baht short time, but the quality was good. I find it hard to find free lance of that quality in Jakarta unless it's extremely expensive.