Bangkok Reports

[Franco Cozzo]

Thanks for your encouragement fellow ISGers, I was definitely happy not to have to negotiate for my first Thai tryst.

Ok, so my P4P story continues on Monday - Sunday was taken out by a trip to the gym and swim in the pool... that turned into drinking too many beers and a few bottles of gin next to the pool at the Nanatai with 2 expats and another seasoned Thai traveller... that ended with me disappearing from the table and passing out in the pool's bathrooms for the night and cracking my head.... What? I'm on holiday, I'm allowed to do excess excessively OK!!

Anyway – back to Monday: After deciding I was never going to drink again, I made my way back down to the pool to try and turn my pasty white flesh a slightly darker hue, ordered myself some food, and decided to have a relaxed, quiet, no funny business kind of day.

That plan was (THANKFULLY) shattered upon the arrival of fellow ISGer Ozztraleearr (the person who recommended the Nanatai – which again, I can’t recommend enough, great rooms and facilities for budget price). It is from my experience heading out with Ozz that day that I think someone should pitch the idea of the Thai government buddying up more experienced, and newbie mongerers, in order to stimulate the Thai economy.

First point of call: Golden (Ozz – feel free to correct any places I mix up/ get wrong), where we hung out with some of Ozz’s ladyfriends – he is very popular in this bar, and spent a while drinking, talking and joking with the girls. We were drinking mainly soft drinks - the wisdom I gleaned straight away from Ozz is that the drinks you are having with a lady do not necessarily have to be alcoholic – bar tabs are cheaper this way, and you are less likely to do something stupid (like pass out in the toilets of a pool).

After this we went for a wander down to the new bar that opened on Soi 4, on the same side as Nana hotel, a little bit further towards the Tobacco Monopoly from Golden (although I cant remember exactly how far). The bar was having an official opening the next night, there was cardboard on the pool tables and the toilets were only half finished... However, the main bar girl had an amazingly sweet and innocent face (which I like), and seemed to have a gentle personality, so we stuck around for a drink or two. The drinks here were significantly more than at the Golden, and I was feeling fragile still from the excess of the night before, so after asking the girl if she would be around at 9ish, I headed back to my room at the Nanatai to slip in a nap before heading out for the night.

Sleep was escaping me, so I decided I needed some relaxation first, and after being told by Ozz that the room service massage girls don’t only massage, I ordered myself up a whole lot of relaxation in the form of June... and that will be my next report, I will try to fit it in between my (hopefully more successful than last night) mongering in Danang, Vietnam tonight and my journey back towards LOS over the next couple of days.

[BKK Dreaming]

......... say goodbye and head back to my room to start another day that ends with me ending up in a very drunken state and funny/ crazy situation, but does not involve P4P, so is not a story for ISG.

sure if its Funny and around Bangkok write it up
, we would like to hear about it......

BK

[BionicMan]

An excellent report, Franco, well done sir. I like your semi-inebriated commentary - your description of how you were treated as an ATM seem spot on. This is a fairly common M.O. - girls put on the act of not being in it for the money, and when it comes right down to it, they coyly ask for some cash. No harm done - I think this is the best way to do things. As I read your report, I was afraid you would have cheaped out and tried to get away without paying the girl. While this is tempting, it really is not the wisest course of action, IMHO. Others may disagree, but that's me (and you too, it seems).

Looking forward to your next report.

I perfectly agree with your thoughts.
Especially as the girl left the amount option open, she was given a fair sum and she accepted it with no mind games or starting to be a pain.
Was it more than what she expected? less? Doesn't matter.
As usual we pay them to go and this worked out exactly that way
Seems Franco got his share of pleasure
So... "you happy me happy" could be the title of the story!

[Kumbu]

An excellent report, Franco, well done sir. I like your semi-inebriated commentary - your description of how you were treated as an ATM seem spot on.

After her shower, she comes out, kisses me, sits on the bed and coyly says "I'm sorry, but I need to ask you for some money." OK, so definitely not a freebie then, I ask her how much, she says "any amount you want," I get out THB2000 and hand it to her, she puts it in her bag without counting it, and looks a little embarrassed about asking for money.

This is a fairly common M.O. - girls put on the act of not being in it for the money, and when it comes right down to it, they coyly ask for some cash. No harm done - I think this is the best way to do things. As I read your report, I was afraid you would have cheaped out and tried to get away without paying the girl. While this is tempting, it really is not the wisest course of action, IMHO. Others may disagree, but that's me (and you too, it seems).

Looking forward to your next report.

[Franco Cozzo]

After my venture into the Nana gogos earlier in the night I took a wander down to the Beer Garden to check out the freelance action. The bar was unsurprisingly packed, so I chose the best looking girl that was not already deep in conversation (/negotiations) and sat down, introduced myself, and struck up a conversation.

The girl introduced herself as Apple (a fairly common name it seems), she is petite, and has a reasonably attractive face (above average with make up on) - and for my first mongering experience in Thailand that is good enough for me.

I ask Apple if she wants a drink, she says she has just ordered a tea, but she may have a drink when her friend (female) arrives in a little bit. This does not bode well for my plans, as it indicated that she may not have been working - instead just socialising. I decide to keep chatting; as I am enjoying the conversation (her English is perfect). Her friend arrives, we have a beer or two there, then move across the road to the mobile bar that gets set up there. Lots of drinking ensues, with both the girls getting about a third of the rounds of drinks each (I probably shouted a few extra - but was by no means buying them both (or either one) drinks all night). From this point onwards (until the early morning activities) my memory is a little hazy (I like a drink or two, but my brain doesn’t quite as much). I will try to fill in the blanks as best as possible, but some of the events may only be 95% factual, 5% best guess).

The partying moved to Nana Liquid, where the drinking situation changed a little - Apple ordered a round of beers for us three and for a couple (or was it a few) other friends of theirs we met at the club, then told the barperson that I was paying. This pissed me off a bit in my now re-inebriated state, and my emotions must have been very obvious. She asked me what was wrong, I said that I am not an ATM machine, she apologized, kissed me. At some point after this we got back to the Nanatai hotel, where I sobered up a little (mainly the whole receptionist asking for ID thing, it was new to me and a little embarrassing - but only a little embarrassing).

When back in the hotel room, we started making out whilst undressing, moved to the bed and she went down. After this she turned around, so it was 69 with her on top. After a sufficient amount of funtime (BJs generally do not get me off, unless I am super horny - when I'm drunk, there is virtually 0% chance a BJ will finish the act, unless there is serious gagging going on). I grabbed a condom, moved her around and started cowboy, moved to mish... standing... moved to in front of the mirror... I started to realize that I may be too drunk to blow, so tell her that we should sleep, and I'll wake her in a few hours with a naughty surprise. She agrees, especially as she has come a few times (though they seemed fairly fake).

2 or 3 hours later, I wake up, realise I'm sober enough to feel the extremities again, so wake her with the promised surprise - kissing her neck until she is semi awake, whilst gently rubbing her hairless wonder, and enter her from behind, before she is fully awake. She seems very happy with this 'surprise sex' and after about 20 - 25 mins of mutual moaning and groaning I manage to release the built up tension, and start my first proper sex tourism journey. We go back to sleep, me still spooning her).

At about 10 the next morning I wake up, still cuddling Apple. She looks very cute asleep (although not as attractive as when she had makeup done properly), so I kiss her awake, and we go again. This time I position myself so that I have a good, clear view of me entering her, and this sight and seeing her tight tight stomach, playing with her very responsive nipples (and her returning the favour), I am ready to come after 5 or so minutes, but use restraint (i.e. slow down) and wait until she has her (again fake sounding) orgasm 5 or so minutes later.

We both go back to sleep. I wake up around 1 in the arvo, consider going again, but decide not to wake her. After I get up, get ready, read a little of my book, I decide that it really is time to kick her out of my bed. I started to wonder whether this was a freebie (apart from the $50 - $70 spent on drinks), or if she wasn't a FL as no mention had been made of money the previous night or in the morning. I wake her, tell her to have a shower and we can go and get lunch.

After her shower, she comes out, kisses me, sits on the bed and coyly says "I'm sorry, but I need to ask you for some money." OK, so definitely not a freebie then, I ask her how much, she says "any amount you want," I get out THB2000 and hand it to her, she puts it in her bag without counting it, and looks a little embarrassed about asking for money. When we get down to the entrance of the Nanatai, she kisses me, and says “I’ll see you next time in the Beer Garden.” I realise I have got out of shouting lunch (not that I minded too much), say goodbye and head back to my room to start another day that ends with me ending up in a very drunken state and funny/ crazy situation, but does not involve P4P, so is not a story for ISG.

[Mouse1]

A new open front beer bar opened in the last few days on Soi 4 between Golden bear and the entrance to Nana Disco,

Painted in Black and no sign up yet , but seems to already be pretty busy,

Anyone know the name ?

BK

I watched it being completed over the past few days. Good location, so it should last.

I'm intrigued by the huge beer bar in the middle of the big carpark up from Nana hotel (you go past it to get to Annie's, if that makes sense). Since it was finished 9 months ago I have yet to see more than a few people in it. Must be making a horrible loss.

On a similar vein, there is a new Indian restaurant several hundred metres up Soi 4 which must have opened very recently. Walked past it a least twice a day, but never saw a single cstomer there, but the same rather desperate looking waiter outside. How or why the owner thinks it can survive so far from passing trade beats me.

[BKK Dreaming]

A new open front beer bar opened in the last few days on Soi 4 between Golden bear and the entrance to Nana Disco,

Painted in Black and no sign up yet , but seems to already be pretty busy,

Anyone know the name ?

BK

[Red Square]

well, it's a long story, but since you asked.

We agreed to meet outside my hotel at 8. 30pm, and she turned up the expected 15 minutes late. I had eschewed my customary stained wife-beater vest, baggy shorts and flip-flops for something a little more sophisticated, but even in my silk pyjamas I wasn't a patch on her. She was wearing a rather elegant outfit, which included a rather short skirt worn with tights. Tights? That's the first time I have ever seen those in BKK, and to be honest not a welcome sight. I had forgotten that she wore glasses and she had a certain Palinesque quality, which did stir a few unexpected feelings. She flashed her rather seductive broad smile, and instantly I was enraptured again.

So we took a taxi to a nice little restaurant on soi 11, where we chatted over a pleasant meal. When she ordered a glass of red wine to drink the penny slowly started to drop, and I realised that she was no ordinary salon girl, but actually the owner of the shop and, as it transpired, a rather astute business woman. So we talked a while about the problems of running businesses in Bangkok (as if I know anything about that), with a lot of gentle touching and caressing, then later headed off for a night-cap hand-in-hand before signing the deal. Or so was my intention. Sadly her intention was somewhat different, and I began to get the vibe when she talked about having to be back soon to relieve the baby-sitter. So I made my pitch with as much gentlemanly style as I could muster, but she explained that she would rather be friends at this point, although perhaps next time I was in town she might be able to share my bed. I made a couple more playful attempts, but realised I was going nowhere on this evening.

Graciously accepting defeat (play the long game!) I called a cab, and we both went back to Soi 4, stopping briefly to drop me off at my hotel (where she did give me a long deep kiss). So what's that, first base? 3/10? E for effort? I have to say though, a very pleasant evening, and while I would gladly have bedded her, I was pretty relaxed about the whole thing, and look forward to seeing her next visit. It was rather fun to go on a date; but knowing for certain that one way or another I would go to sleep satiated that night took a lot of the stress out of it.

Anyway, the night was still young, and although I had a flight to catch the next day, I was of course in no mood for my usual solitary mug of cocoa. I did think briefly about saying to her that I would go for a stroll around the Sukh to clear my head, but having said that I needed an early night she would know exactly what I was up to.! So I waited for the taxi to turn the corner past my hotel and then briskly strolled down the soi in search of my prey. Who I found within 100 yards. A sweet young thing, who it turned out had been standing there most of the evening. I actually took pity on her from her slightly hard-luck story, but more importantly her neediness made the interview somewhat more straightforward. There was certainly no need to negotiate over the requested fee, and she had a certain docility about her that was rather appealing at that point. So we strolled back to my hotel, where the dreadful deed was done, and to be honest was very much enjoyed by myself. If I was being critical I would say that she was a little on the plump side, but only in Thailand could I possibly get away with saying that. Any other country thy would say she hadn't an ounce of fat on her.

So that was that. The slightly bizarre sequel follows. Regular readers may know I have a long-time friend / gik / gf / whatever ('The Shrimp'). I tell her pretty much everything, and in return she tells me pretty much everything about her exploits (and by the way, if you are that Frenchman, and you know who you are, boy, are you weird. Anyway, I digress). So the next day I phone the Shrimp to tell her about my nocturnal activities, and talk about the salon lady.

'What her name? '

I tell her.

'I know her'.

Yeah, right, sure you do.

'No, she not salon girl, she big boss. She has crazy son. I go her salon many times. We talk together often. Sometimes she get crazy drunk. '

Great. A few more points confirms that they know each other well. I've picked two girls out of the vast sea of Thai females who just happen to know each other. I suppose it's not so unlikely, but there you go. Not that it really limits anything, as the Shrimp is pretty relaxed, but it wouldn't feel right. Or would it? I might just have to find out next trip.

Hahaha! That's a great story. Sounds like a fun girl, when you get her going! Be sure to give her a ring next time!

[Chill Out]

@Jack78: you may want to check the "Safe Sex in Thailand" thread. While BBBJ is low on the risk side, a number of guys says they have gotten diseases through BBBJ. Mostly curable stuff though eg gonorrhea etc (no AIDS).

[Pita123]

Anyone been to the new Club Insomnia around Soi 12 behind the V8 Diner?

[Mouse1]

guys

i have been last year in mai in bangkok and pattaya. considered the quality of the girls better in bangkok, although also a bit more expensive. i realised that the girls are willing (or even prefer) to give bbbj. since i don't think that a bj is worth the money with a condom i have so far prefered this practice. but did you guys have any problems with std so far? is it possible to get over-the-counter medication against them directly in thailand?

i have a preferece for freelance ladies. last time i realised that it is fairly difficult to estimate the age of the girls. i've met a non-pro and thought she was maybe even too young, asked her and found out that she was actually 26! it's really difficult to guess! do you guys ask for id's or do you leave that to the hotel? since i've realised that good hotels ask for the id's of the girls and keep them. so i guess they also check the age. can i rely on that or must i check myself?

i am heading back to bangkok this december and am planning to pick up some freelancers. last time i realised that in front of the nana hotel there are a lot of beautiful ones also in night clubs such as the bossy disco and spicey disco, any other suggestions?

are you going to keep re-posting this until you get an answer? not a wise strategy...

risk of std fom bbbj is fairly low. you can buy apprpriate medications otc in bkk.

hotels will not let **** girls in (although there might be exceptions) so in my experience an **** girl will either have 'lost' her id card or will request a st hotel. the former is a real warning sign.

the whole nana area is swarming with beautiful (and not so beautiful) young (and not so young) girls (and not so much girls). the latter is a warning to you to watch out for ladyboys, of which there are many.

[Bkk247]

I wonder if she is the girl that use to be my girlfriend, but her name was Pa. How old is she? Where in Thailand is she from?

Hm. No here name is Pat. Sent you a PM.

[Jack78]

Guys

I have been last year in Mai in Bangkok and Pattaya. Considered the quality of the girls better in Bangkok, although also a bit more expensive. I realised that the girls are willing (or even prefer) to give BBBJ. Since I don't think that a BJ is worth the money with a condom I have so far prefered this practice. But did you guys have any problems with STD so far? Is it possible to get over-the-counter medication against them directly in Thailand?

I have a preferece for freelance ladies. Last time I realised that it is fairly difficult to estimate the age of the girls. I've met a non-pro and thought she was maybe even too young, asked her and found out that she was actually 26! It's really difficult to guess! Do you guys ask for Id's or do you leave that to the hotel? Since I've realised that good hotels ask for the id's of the girls and keep them. So I guess they also check the age. Can I rely on that or must I check myself?

I am heading back to Bangkok this December and am planning to pick up some freelancers. Last time I realised that in front of the Nana hotel there are a lot of beautiful ones also in night clubs such as the Bossy Disco and Spicey Disco, any other suggestions?

[Mouse1]

The man's travel plans are his own business - I'd rather hear where he sticks his little rodent than how he got to BKK.

Kumbu, you are a wise and honourable man.

In thanks I have given you the story of 'The Hair Salon Lady'. Shortly I shall provide the story of 'Mango Girls - the Good and the Well, How Can I Put It Tactfully, Perhaps Not Quite So Good But She Did Try Hard'.

[Mouse1]

.. my friend. And my apologies if you felt I was patronsiing you, that was not the intention.

I am indeed very good at organising travel. and my services are available to you any time, for a few beers wherever we may end up meeting!

Peace!

No offence taken. I was just in a grumpy mood having, er, just flown back to Delhi on Air India...

The early morning flight was 10 minutes late (how is that possible?). I didn't dare check the toilets. The breakfast I accepted and then did not eat having inspected it. The staff were morose rather than surly. They didn't serve any drinks until the plane was literally coming in to land.

On the positive side, I had the exit row seat with an empty seat next to me. I had my iPad, a few magazines, plenty of leg-room and a perfectly comfy seat.

But, the point is, I would rather endure 4 hours of marginal discomfort and get to BKK early, rather than wait for a better airline a day later. That's it.

One final point: I tend to be a last minute traveller, so checked in one hour 'early'. On leaving the check-in with less than an hour to go, I joined the queue to join the queues for Immigration at Point 3 ie at the far end of the hall. This queue snaked back and forward a couple of times, and I would have spent my entire time in that queue... On the wall are three CCTV screens showing the queue at Point 2. No queue. Go figure. So I wandered back to the middle of the hall and was through Immigration within 15 minutes.

Worth remembering.