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[EihTooms]

Thanks for the info and clarifications, it's much appreciated. It seems like Thermae is a unique to mongering kind of place that's worth checking out once just for shits and giggles, even if it's only for a drink.

Having lived in Vegas for 20+ years, I've gotten way past the age or care of drinking myself silly and staying out late, so I'm wondering if there are places in the daytime, other than MP's and BJ bars, that are suited for mongering? It appears that some of the beer bars might be open in the daytime, though I can't imagine many lookers are there at 1 pm versus 1 am.

Thanks once again.

There again, Beer Garden Soi 7 is not an MP, not a BJ Bar, is open during the day and is a place to sit, relax and meet freelancers. You might go in and there will only be 2 girls sitting in there. Or none. But I have passed through and seen a dozen or more in there in the afternoon. And probably as much chance of meeting a "looker" in there as in most MPs and BJ Bars.

Also, I would not necessarily dismiss the idea of finding better looking girls in any P4P venues during the day vs night time. The venues that are open during the day, that is.

Daytime-only hookers are more often than not trying harder to pass themselves off to their family, boyfriends, husbands, sponsors, et al as "normal", non P4P girls with a regular job during the day. By definition, they are often more likely to be in demand at least to the degree that some dude or dudes are committed to taking care of them and jealous enough to keep them out of the business. LOL.

One of the best looking freelancers I have met in the past few years was a girl sitting almost alone in Beer Garden Soi 7 during the daytime, maybe only 2 other women in the place and 3 guys drinking beer. She was very keen for me to take her for ST but I had just finished a marathon night LT and was only cruising through Beer Garden to find my buddy. So I asked for her Line ID to meet up with her another day. She said she did not have Line, WhatsApp or any other similar app. And could not give me her phone number. Why? In all likelihood it was because she never, never, never wanted to risk getting caught by her boyfriend or sponsor with another man's name and contact info on her phone.

I am sure she had those apps on her phone. She just didn't want me and 50 other guys' accounts in them.

Then I asked if she was going to be in Beer Garden later, in the evening. Nope.

[VivaMattyVegas]

Thanks for the info and clarifications, it's much appreciated. It seems like Thermae is a unique to mongering kind of place that's worth checking out once just for shits and giggles, even if it's only for a drink.

Having lived in Vegas for 20+ years, I've gotten way past the age or care of drinking myself silly and staying out late, so I'm wondering if there are places in the daytime, other than MP's and BJ bars, that are suited for mongering? It appears that some of the beer bars might be open in the daytime, though I can't imagine many lookers are there at 1 pm versus 1 am.

Thanks once again.

That is not exactly true, Matty. There are plenty of Thermae FL's just waiting for Farangs like ourselves. The main complaint with Thermae is that many, but not all, of the young lookers prefer Asians. The other main complaint is that the atmosphere in Thermae is kind of Asian juvenile like an Eastern version of cruising as in the movie "American Graffiti," but not as much fun. You should go there at least once to check it out. It is a meat market. Ha Ha. You might like it.

As to similar bars more attuned to Western tastes: the short answer is no. Thermae is a unique bar in BKK due to the sheer number of FL's that ply their trade and hang out there. Like I said, it is a meat market. But there are plenty of hostess bars in the Sukhumvit area to choose from and that cater to Westerners. Try Morning Night bar, BigDogs, Stumble Inn, and any of the Hillary Bars for starters. These are Hostess bars so they are set up differently that Thermae, but they might be more to your liking. Then there are countless smaller bars further down on Soi 4 and on Soi 22 plus there are plenty of SW's hanging out in the Nana parking lot, Soi 4, on Sukhumvit itself, Soi 11, and Soi 22 as well.

And don't forget the Go Go's. The Go Go's are great, at least the better ones that I frequent. The Go Go's are where I find at least 75% of my BKK and Pattaya girls.

[Canyon]

Natty,

Are you in BKK now? If so send me a PM.

Canyon.

[EihTooms]

Is there a bar like Thermae that's more open to westerners? From all the video's and research I've done of Thermae, while a great concept, doesn't seem like a place this aging white guy would fare well.

I would say the closest thing to a Farang/ Westerner "preferred" bar somewhat similar to Thermae is Beer Garden Soi 7.

There will only be a fraction of females in the place compared to Thermae. As well as a fraction of the customers. The females' ages will skew older. The place serves as much food as it does drinks. And it isn't as though many or just the better looking girls "prefer" Farangs or Westerners to a degree that they would ever refuse to go with an Asian instead of a Farang or Westerner. But I think every girl who goes into Beer Garden Soi 7 assumes she will probably be taken by a Westerner 4 out of 5 times that she is taken.

To your question, the bottom line is it is a bar/restaurant, same as Thermae, not a go-go bar, not a disco, not a beer bar or any other venue with a cover charge, Ladydrinks or a barfine. The drinks are normal price, not inflated to pay for "entertainment" because there is no entertainment other than it is a place to eat, drink, see a "line up" of sorts of available Thai female freelancers to take to your room or a nearby ST room. What the customer pays the girl is all the money she is going to get for her time there.

The basic premise being essentially the same as Thermae.

Except I am not aware that any Beer Garden Soi 7 girl would or has ever shunned a Westerner simply because he is a Westerner in favor of waiting for an Asian customer instead. Or one who does so routinely. Maybe there is some anecdotal evidence to the contrary.

[Member #4698]

Is there a bar like Thermae that's more open to westerners? From all the video's and research I've done of Thermae, while a great concept, doesn't seem like a place this aging white guy would fare well.

That is not exactly true, Matty. There are plenty of Thermae FL's just waiting for Farangs like ourselves. The main complaint with Thermae is that many, but not all, of the young lookers prefer Asians. The other main complaint is that the atmosphere in Thermae is kind of Asian juvenile like an Eastern version of cruising as in the movie "American Graffiti," but not as much fun. You should go there at least once to check it out. It is a meat market. Ha Ha. You might like it.

As to similar bars more attuned to Western tastes: the short answer is no. Thermae is a unique bar in BKK due to the sheer number of FL's that ply their trade and hang out there. Like I said, it is a meat market. But there are plenty of hostess bars in the Sukhumvit area to choose from and that cater to Westerners. Try Morning Night bar, BigDogs, Stumble Inn, and any of the Hillary Bars for starters. These are Hostess bars so they are set up differently that Thermae, but they might be more to your liking. Then there are countless smaller bars further down on Soi 4 and on Soi 22 plus there are plenty of SW's hanging out in the Nana parking lot, Soi 4, on Sukhumvit itself, Soi 11, and Soi 22 as well.

And don't forget the Go Go's. The Go Go's are great, at least the better ones that I frequent. The Go Go's are where I find at least 75% of my BKK and Pattaya girls.

[VivaMattyVegas]

Is there a bar like Thermae that's more open to westerners? From all the video's and research I've done of Thermae, while a great concept, doesn't seem like a place this aging white guy would fare well.

[EihTooms]

That is an issue with online dating sites for me as well; days or a couple of weeks can go by with nothing but Interest Clicks and Match Requests from 45-68 year olds living in Isaan despite my Browsing and Settings Filter specifying 18-35 within 15 km of Bangkok. LOL. And only "Hi" replies, if that, from girls I Click Interest in before they disappear from (my) view on the sites.

Then, suddenly, I will start getting eager Clicks and Matches from several sweet young things within 45 minutes travel time to my area of Bangkok 5-6 days in a row.

It just comes and goes in waves like that, quite naturally I think. No other rhyme or reason to it that I have noticed, such as high or low season, holiday weeks or not, etc.

However, the same random good vs bad waves can happen for me in the go-go bar and face-to-face first contact FL scenes, too, always could and often did.

I should add that I appreciate that it is easier to wade through the less fruitful waves in the dating site scene when you reside in Bangkok full time.

Just last week and swear to god just now, two long forgotten dating site girls from about a year ago who I had met briefly in person, tried but failed to close a deal on BBFS+CIP, Lined me out of the blue to see how I have been lately. LOL.

Yep, within 5 "doing fine and how are you?" exchanges, the one last week agreed and the one just now agreed to this deal: meet for dinner first, back to my room, make sure your pussy is shaved smooth for pleasant DATY, then BBFS+CIP, LT until mid morning for 2,000-2,500 baht depending on how I feel about it.

The one last week came through exceeding expectations. The one just now that I will be seeing tomorrow shows no signs of squirreling out. But it hasn't happened yet, so we shall see. Worst case scenario is she backs out, I have spent zero money and I meet someone else Friday night in Bangkok.

Both girls are slim, trim, cute faced spinners in their mid/late 20's.

I really like the dating site option here in Bangkok.

[EihTooms]

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Having said that the last time I was in BKK (a few months ago) I didn't have much luck online at all and it wasn't a very fruitful trip. I had to resort to the old haunts and was a little disappointed except for mind blowing experience at Snow White with a truly awesome woman (can't remember name sorry). Although I kept some contacts who I'll hit up next week when I return to BKK for a few nights. I'll post results.

That is an issue with online dating sites for me as well; days or a couple of weeks can go by with nothing but Interest Clicks and Match Requests from 45-68 year olds living in Isaan despite my Browsing and Settings Filter specifying 18-35 within 15 km of Bangkok. LOL. And only "Hi" replies, if that, from girls I Click Interest in before they disappear from (my) view on the sites.

Then, suddenly, I will start getting eager Clicks and Matches from several sweet young things within 45 minutes travel time to my area of Bangkok 5-6 days in a row.

It just comes and goes in waves like that, quite naturally I think. No other rhyme or reason to it that I have noticed, such as high or low season, holiday weeks or not, etc.

However, the same random good vs bad waves can happen for me in the go-go bar and face-to-face first contact FL scenes, too, always could and often did.

[Syzygies]

I am looking for a proper threesome (including lesbian) action with freelancers. Whats my best bet to try insanity or Mixx? Have been to Eden club main times but its only mechanical sex.

As I have posted many times before, you can find suitable girls in a bar. I used to do threesomes very regularly in Sheba, Suzie Wong, and more recently Shark. Know a suitable girl at 5 Star. I won't repeat all the detail I posted before. I agree Eden is just for mechanical.

I doubt it would be easy to sus out this sort of thing in a disco.

[Nyezhov]

I am looking for a proper threesome (including lesbian) action with freelancers. Whats my best bet to try insanity or Mixx? Have been to Eden club main times but its only mechanical sex.

I would say slim and none, but how big is your wallet.

I slammed a "Russian" girl there in Mixx a few times in the winter / spring of this year and asked her once but she said she didn't do that. There are alwys a few dyky looking ones there though.

Regardless, money buys you anything. I've seen so called straight white girls gobbling black pussy when the price is right.

Ill be there this weekend as I have been seeing some total Russian hotties out and about. I saw one on Ekkamai 63 yesterday that literally made me forget I had a camera and should have taken a picture of her 6 ft tall blonde tight ass volleyball player frame. And yes, to those of you posting from mommys basement, she was a girl. And if she was at Mixx and would look me in the eye and say 10000 I would hail a cab.

Its like my desire for a hamburger after weeks of Thai food.

[Sidtip]

Amongst the women, African and Indian are the worst smelling.

Indians. Men and women. But especially the men tend to be the worst smelling. It is a hygiene thing. They don't wear deodorant and they often still use their hands to dig out the final loose bits after going to the toilet. It is the turmeric or other spices that permeates out of their sweat glands that causes some of the issues. Asians rarely smell, but the smell of their cooking tends to put me off in small premises.

[BkkVistor77]

So, for the best bang for my buck and the best chance of getting that Real Sex/True GFE I need and desire with the widest variety of sweet natured Thai females, the only option that has increased in interest for me over the past few years is the online dating site option.

It is rare that I don't have 3-4 juicy or intriguing new possibilities lined up during the week where the most difficult decision to be made is in which order I want to meet them and on which day or night. And that is from age 20 on up. I could populate my week with only 20-somethings. But why do that when there is often real gold in those 30-somethings and the occasional early 40-somethings?

Agreed me too. The last three or four times in BKK I have had much better experiences online with a range of normies, and also occasional freelancers on Tinder and OK Cupid, than wandering around all night into expensive bars or trying to find a cute girl in the overly average massage places.

Having said that the last time I was in BKK (a few months ago) I didn't have much luck online at all and it wasn't a very fruitful trip. I had to resort to the old haunts and was a little disappointed except for mind blowing experience at Snow White with a truly awesome woman (can't remember name sorry). Although I kept some contacts who I'll hit up next week when I return to BKK for a few nights. I'll post results.

[Freaky Mango]

I am looking for a proper threesome (including lesbian) action with freelancers. Whats my best bet to try insanity or Mixx? Have been to Eden club main times but its only mechanical sex.

[Syzygies]

I'm a brown man and I've never been out of luck in Bangkok. It's all about how you dress up and treat everyone. Right from the cabbies to the security guys to bargirls. If you're a gentleman, you're going to do well in this city. That being said, there are a couple of things I don't understand.

1. How the hell do you guys muster up the courage to go bareback with someone who hasn't verified their medical records with you? Is it an age thing? I'm 32 with a few more years left.

2. Snow White has been seeing a decline of mongers. Where should I go for a PSE now?

3. Okay. I'm not an experienced monger like you'll but I've done almost everything in Bkk except Oiles. What's a good place for a brown man to get in on that kind of fun?

Cheers.

Question 1 is best for the Safe Sex thread, but I am sure age comes into it. Also if you have a wife.

3. I never did Oilies in my early Bangkok mongering years, preferring Soapies, the Thermae, and bars. One reason was I don't like to get a real Thai massage. However massage is not essential in PSE shops. Its semi essential though, to try Oily MPs, not necessarily all PSE shops, just so you know what you are missing out on. Go to highly recommended shops first. I have never tried to get girls at discos. So an essential part of the knowledge is missing. One, I don't like most discos and don't like to monger very late at night. This forum finally persuaded me to try some Oilies forget what year. Maybe 2004 when I quit previous GF, or maybe a few years later. Can't recall if my first Oily was Tulip or Thonglor, or what. My forum reports would tell me. Can't be as early as 2004 since I first joined the forum about then.

Really the venue does not matter much. It is about finding a girl that is well worth the money, wherever that maybe. I never went to a hands free restaurant (I think they died out), and never went to a hairdresser that provided sex activities too. So never tried everything. Never fucked a Ladyboy, but did fuck a girl in the public bar area of Star of Light and BJ in the bar elsewhere. Many years ago had about 5 girls molesting me in the Kangaroo bar at same time. So perhaps it is great to try things, but never every last thing.

There are some things I tried once and hardly wanted to go back. No big problem. I can't really comment on best places for brown man. Others probably can. I see plenty partying in Billboard bar. I wish they would sit down instead of jumping all over the place. Maybe the home style to be partying standing up.

[Ass Addict]

2. Snow White has been seeing a decline of mongers. Where should I go for a PSE now?

3. Okay. I'm not an experienced monger like you'll but I've done almost everything in Bkk except Oiles. What's a good place for a brown man to get in on that kind of fun?

Cheers.

Still go to SW for the PSE.

Girls in Bamboo on soi 8 are used to service Indian guys all day long.

The same goes for all the massage shops in soi 22 as Indians are their main customers.

Dream Heaven in soi 26 and soi 33 are good for you also.