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  1. #46359
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    There is one notable exception, and that is Palace GoGo in Pattaya. Was there this weekend and I can saw the lineup in there is the best I have ever seen in my 20 plus years of going to GoGos. 8's, 9's, and 10's abound. Just stunning. Place was packed and we were the only two non-Asians in the place.
    How much are they asking for short time in Palace?

  2. #46358
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    Performance standards? What is this the Olympics? I'm not hiring a professional, I'm hiring some chick to do what I want. So that's my standard. My back hurts too much? Climb on top and Ill tell you what to do next. Its all about me. I'm not looking for a girlfriend, or to fall in love, or even a regular as doing the same chick twice is a burden to me. This what I want, how much. No do. OK, extra XXXX? I do.

    And I'm willing to pay whatever I, meaning me and me alone, think is reasonable, because I can. I'm not in this lovely country to spend my time obsessing about some hooker getting an extra $10 out of me. If she has the look I want, then I pay, simple as that. If she doesn't, then she isn't getting her chance. And I am mighty particular. Last night I popped into Thermae and the girls were waving at me to get my attention, probably because I am in there so much just chilling and having a soda and laughing at the foolish way folks act in there. But the ladies know it takes a special someone to get my attention.

    And I have all the time in the world to get what I want. I'm not desperate and I surely look a lot better than most of the falangs I see in Thermae.
    Who said anything about a GF? Performance standards? Of course. I expect the gal to be able to give a good BJ, be able to provide FS, monitor and adjust to my wants and needs. Those are performance standards. When the price was 12.50 - 25 USD, I didn't have high expectations, but for 100 USD? You "darn tootin'" I expect more, a lot more.

    Believe me, no one is "special. " We are all Johns like any other.

    Whose desperate? Those of us that live here really have all the time in the world. We also for the most part, have higher expectations and are not willing to pay what tourists and frequent visitors so, especially when on most occasions it will pale in comparison to what we used to have. And please, I moved over her in my early 30's, so I know what it is like to one of the "better looking" farangs in Thermae and mind you, that was back in the day when there were no Asian dudes. BTW, still weigh exactly the same as I did then and probably in even better shape.

    There is one notable exception, and that is Palace GoGo in Pattaya. Was there this weekend and I can saw the lineup in there is the best I have ever seen in my 20 plus years of going to GoGos. 8's, 9's, and 10's abound. Just stunning. Place was packed and we were the only two non-Asians in the place.

  3. #46357

    I would

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    For those who laughed when I told my story about the time I fucked the midget from Soi Cowboy, here's a photo of a somewhat similar midget. What guy in his right mind wouldn't fuck that?
    Did you fuck that one as well?

    If so well played.

    Only five more to go.

  4. #46356
    Quote Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste  [View Original Post]
    And now you don't. Boo hoo.

    I was chatting with another BM about my very short trip to BKK last week. 3 days I shacked up with a girl I know from before, one I had met through TF. On Friday I went down to Thermae at around 11 pm and hung around for an hour watching the crowds milling about rehearsing for prom night. 5555. Then I went and approached a girl I liked and we were out in 15 minutes. She first started with 3 K ST. I said I only like to go LT. She said OK you take care of me. I nodded and we were out. I stayed at Shangri La, so it is quite ride back, but no complaints. Back in the room, no hassles with service. No rush. She stayed well into the day. When I was ready to leave for the airport around 1 pm she even wanted to come to see me off at the airport. I politely refused, kissed her and gave her the money and sent her on her way. And returned to SG in time for the F1 qualifiers.
    Yes, and now you don't. That's the point. So what did you remit for LT? 5 k? 6 k? 7 k? Yes, all three amounts are quite a bit of money IMHO.

  5. #46355
    Quote Originally Posted by Crypton  [View Original Post]
    3 K is going rate for short time for a Thermae girl?! You mean that's what Japanese pay?
    No that's what he pays. He probably doesn't care what anyone else pays. I surely don't.

  6. #46354
    Quote Originally Posted by Catire  [View Original Post]
    I can only comment on one fairly in demand Thermae gal who goes almost exclusively with Japanese.

    (I am sure I would be rejected by a certain percentage of gals on left hand side, because some never bother looking at me when I pass by, though the culture of the place is so weird these days. The girls try to act "demure" per Asian customer preferences).

    Anyways. For the one gal I can comment on.

    I pay her going rate with no haggling.

    (which is 3 K short) . Once she stayed all night I gave her 5). She has told me she will raise prices on guys she doesn't really want to go with (but then has to go with them if they accept).

    What she gets from me is nice treatment, even a BFE. She gets her orgasms.

    What I get is BBFS, no clockwatching, a great tight snatch and a lovely mouth/ tongue that treats me with "special care" (cannot comment how it treats others).
    3 K is going rate for short time for a Thermae girl?! You mean that's what Japanese pay?

  7. #46353
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    You must be willing to pay what the Asian dudes do. And what are your performance standards?
    I can only comment on one fairly in demand Thermae gal who goes almost exclusively with Japanese.

    (I am sure I would be rejected by a certain percentage of gals on left hand side, because some never bother looking at me when I pass by, though the culture of the place is so weird these days. The girls try to act "demure" per Asian customer preferences).

    Anyways. For the one gal I can comment on.

    I pay her going rate with no haggling.

    (which is 3 K short) . Once she stayed all night I gave her 5). She has told me she will raise prices on guys she doesn't really want to go with (but then has to go with them if they accept).

    What she gets from me is nice treatment, even a BFE. She gets her orgasms.

    What I get is BBFS, no clockwatching, a great tight snatch and a lovely mouth/ tongue that treats me with "special care" (cannot comment how it treats others).

  8. #46352
    Quote Originally Posted by Whytho  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys,

    This is my first message on this forum. So I'm visiting Thailand in one month and Singapore after that for a longer time so I hope to provide good reports by then and RTFF.

    So far I have read a lot of stuff so I already have my girl friendly hotels reserved, price ranges in mind and everything. The only thing I don't understand is the most stupid one, but from looking specially at those YouTube videos is. How the hell do you get a Gogo girl you like that is dancing on the stage? Am I supposed to smile, wink at them or do they have some kind of ID that I can tell to the mamasan to get them down and then pay the barfine? Really sorry for such a stupid question, but I don't seem to find a proper guide or explanation other than "you drink with a girl that you like, and if you want you pay the bar fine and take her with you".

    A girl I used to visit got fungi and told me clients doing DATY or just touching with their fingers was just painful as fuck, even though she enjoys it a lot.
    Each girl has a small tag with a number on it, usually pinned to their bikini bottom. You can ask the mamasan to bring the girl to you by referring to the number or as you said, smile and she may come down. If you want to sit and talk with her, she may ask for a lady drink (she gets a commission). Or you can directly negotiate. The price will include a bar fine (upward of 600 baht) and the girl's fees (short time or long time), which varies among bars and also according to your negotiation skills. I have not been in BKK for a bit. So my guess is short time (1 hour) will be at least 2000 baht and long term upward of 3000 baht. Short term is usually one hour with one shot unless you negotiate; long time will be a few hours with at least a couple of shots. Some of them try to sneak out in 2-3 hours. Just watch out. You have a choice of taking her to a short time hotel or to your own hotel. Hope that helps!

  9. #46351
    Hey guys,

    This is my first message on this forum. So I'm visiting Thailand in one month and Singapore after that for a longer time so I hope to provide good reports by then and RTFF.

    So far I have read a lot of stuff so I already have my girl friendly hotels reserved, price ranges in mind and everything. The only thing I don't understand is the most stupid one, but from looking specially at those YouTube videos is. How the hell do you get a Gogo girl you like that is dancing on the stage? Am I supposed to smile, wink at them or do they have some kind of ID that I can tell to the mamasan to get them down and then pay the barfine? Really sorry for such a stupid question, but I don't seem to find a proper guide or explanation other than "you drink with a girl that you like, and if you want you pay the bar fine and take her with you".

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    This is the first time I have ever heard of a girl complaining of pain from DATY. That is virtually impossible unless you use your teeth.
    A girl I used to visit got fungi and told me clients doing DATY or just touching with their fingers was just painful as fuck, even though she enjoys it a lot.

  10. #46350
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    The whole point of coming to Thailand was you could get just about anything you wanted at a very reasonable price. That's why so many of us moved here years ago. You didn't "covet," you just did.
    And now you don't. Boo hoo.

    I was chatting with another BM about my very short trip to BKK last week. 3 days I shacked up with a girl I know from before, one I had met through TF. On Friday I went down to Thermae at around 11 pm and hung around for an hour watching the crowds milling about rehearsing for prom night. 5555. Then I went and approached a girl I liked and we were out in 15 minutes. She first started with 3 K ST. I said I only like to go LT. She said OK you take care of me. I nodded and we were out. I stayed at Shangri La, so it is quite ride back, but no complaints. Back in the room, no hassles with service. No rush. She stayed well into the day. When I was ready to leave for the airport around 1 pm she even wanted to come to see me off at the airport. I politely refused, kissed her and gave her the money and sent her on her way. And returned to SG in time for the F1 qualifiers.

  11. #46349
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    You must be willing to pay what the Asian dudes do. And what are your performance standards?
    Performance standards? What is this the Olympics? I'm not hiring a professional, I'm hiring some chick to do what I want. So that's my standard. My back hurts too much? Climb on top and Ill tell you what to do next. Its all about me. I'm not looking for a girlfriend, or to fall in love, or even a regular as doing the same chick twice is a burden to me. This what I want, how much. No do. OK, extra XXXX? I do.

    And I'm willing to pay whatever I, meaning me and me alone, think is reasonable, because I can. I'm not in this lovely country to spend my time obsessing about some hooker getting an extra $10 out of me. If she has the look I want, then I pay, simple as that. If she doesn't, then she isn't getting her chance. And I am mighty particular. Last night I popped into Thermae and the girls were waving at me to get my attention, probably because I am in there so much just chilling and having a soda and laughing at the foolish way folks act in there. But the ladies know it takes a special someone to get my attention.

    And I have all the time in the world to get what I want. I'm not desperate and I surely look a lot better than most of the falangs I see in Thermae.

  12. #46348
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    They do with me.
    You must be willing to pay what the Asian dudes do. And what are your performance standards?

  13. #46347
    Quote Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste  [View Original Post]
    In reality they may not be, but that is how psychology works. Men always covet something they don't have or cannot get.
    The whole point of coming to Thailand was you could get just about anything you wanted at a very reasonable price. That's why so many of us moved here years ago. You didn't "covet," you just did.

  14. #46346
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    I felt it was time to give my Soi 4 street girl Naam, another visit. Have not seem her for over 3 months (hardly was in Bangkok). Always a great GFE and wonderful feel pussy. Got there and met Joom immediately who is a always there and a friend of Naam. Joom says sorry Naam is pregnant already, has Farang BF and they got married. Oh fuck! Another of my regulars gone. One other girl on the street looks sort of acceptable but I did not try. Went to look in a few Nana bars. I see there are now 2 Twister bars, with Twister BKK added to the left ground floor. Had a look and also in Bill Board. Bill board had a big party. Girls were dressed up a la Victoria's Secret slightly (so some had wings on). Junk food like Pizza and chips etc. Was being served too.

    Annoyingly hard to see girls at the back on the rotating stage. Some really great asses on display at the front. Faces were harder to tell because the lighting is so dreadfully poor (and my eyesight is getting old). However I know that not many have a really pretty face (some above average though). From right underneath can see how broad most of the noses are even with nose job. Could not really pick any girl I could be sure of being happy with under the difficult circumstances. Tits can't tell either because covered too much. Had a peak in Diamonds with better lighting and some topless girls. Nothing that amazing for a pretty face.

    Started to walk back to Cowboy, but decided to take a look in Thermae for fun. Was absolutely packed with big queues to get a drink. Heaps of Asian guys circulating clockwise. Did not really see Farangs in the circulating throng. Was surprised that 2 right hand side girls were actually quite good looking although lighting in Thermae is also a little subdued and of a tone that seems to make girls look better than they do once they are outside. Finally I see on left side a girl with light and pretty face (at least as far as I could see in that lighting). I had my incorrect glasses on (intended for computer work). She assures me that she likes Farangs and is not scared of them in the slightest. So I took her away for short time.

    She was 30 YO or so. Her body was okay Tits small as expected and not saggy. Belly scar from a baby, but not a really heavy one. Ass okay Unfortunately big pussy Bush. If in a gogo bar, I probably would not have even called her over. Off to my Hotel.

    Showered separately, the first suspect sign. She did not want to kiss more than a peck. Claimed to have injured her tongue while brushing her teeth. Ha ha. (I am Skeptical). She did not tolerate DATY for that long before complaining of hurt. Ridiculous! I was going incredibily soft and I have just shaved very smooth taking significant time. Was bothersome to have to get her Bush out of the way. No one complains about my DATY that fast, and hardly ever unless the girl has injury from her own pussy shaving. Most girls get horny even if reluctantly. So how am I going to get turned on. She has admitted to being quite inexperienced by now. A hairdresser by day in Ramkhamhaeng. In Thermae with a group of her friends / Colleagues. I doubt she has fucked many Farangs. She says she can do a BJ. So the BBBJ is actually not bad. Very slow and soft as I like. Dick goes up. So put on condom and try to fuck. Her pussy does not feel good for some reason like its hard to get in there very deep. Pussy is not gripping the dick at all, yet check with fingers finds no obstruction. It is possible deep down they could be problem like stitched too tight since fingers can only reach 4 to 5 inches and dick is somewhat longer. Anyway my dick is not enjoying the feel (after some beautiful feeling fucks at SW and Doki Doki in earlier days and even a bargirl from Five Star). So naturally the dick is starting to sag and her looks are not that massively hot especially with big Bush to keep me excited. I am oldish now. Dick is quite insensitive. Things have to go right for me to enjoy, maybe not like when I was 35 YO. Soon realised there was no way the fuck with her was going to work, and she was not even moving her body like she wanted it.

    So yet another poor session from Thermae. In truth I have managed to cum with some of my girls from last few years at the Thermae, certainly not all, but not one of them was good enough to ever consider repeating. So that's it. Can't see any reason to ever go to Thermae again. My success rate is just too poor. Basically batting zero for last few years in terms of being really satisfied and considering it not to be a waste of money. Its for a different sort of customer, young Asians I guess. Maybe they don't care if girls have weak experience, lack of skills, big Bush, etc. Or maybe the girls can perform a bit better. I am sure I have had a bad string of luck with my choices, but don't see how to rectify that. If girls were dancing nude on stage, under good lighting, like at some bars, I could choose way better. Maybe could choose better with a long interview process but I detect that the girls hate long discussions and too many questions, generally. They want to know pretty quick if you will take them. In a gogo bar, I can manage to have a very long consideration and interview process before BFing. It works better and I have a much better success rate. MPs can be hit and miss too if they have plenty of dud girls at the venue. So venue becomes important. Had plenty of dud girls in Soapies in recent years too, with the odd really good one.

    So it must be me. I am put off girls easily, and dick just doesn't work with too much adversity. The condom of course is the start of the adversity but can be tolerated with top performing girls with really hot looks. Never was a problem with my favourite Crazy House girls, for example.

    So my advice, if you are an older Farang with a non sensitive dick like me, and need things to be going pretty much right with girls ability, attitude, looks, and body, then Thermae is a very suspect hunting ground, where can get very inexperienced girls and with low skills. Did not find many "horny" girls from there. More interested in quick money mostly these days.

    Later I took a regular bar girl (several times in last 2 years). She was real horny and claimed to have had no fuck for a while. She came extra fast from DATY within 2 minutes, as she claimed her pussy had been quite deprived lately. Never found her that difficult to cum, and always likes the DATY. Gave me a good BBBJ and also a tit fuck since her tits are big (has gained a little weight). Also her pussy is very beautiful to look at which is nice for me, not just for fucking. Her landing strip above is very short and smooth shaved round the sides of the pussy to above the clit level.

    Time to give the dick a day off maybe now. To make sure I am really horny again.
    I gave up on Thermae years ago. Performance, attitude, and pricing, none of the three work for me. It's a great place to go for a laugh. You still see some characters in there, but it's an Asian bar now and has been for years. Paying close to or more than 100 USD for substandard performance? You got to be kidding me.

  15. #46345

    DATY with Asian ladies and scammers

    So, I have a beard. It's not long, and I try to keep things trimmed to prevent too much irritation, but I think that Asian ladies are; A) not used to DATY in general, with their Asian BFs; and B) younger ladies (especially shaved) are somewhat sensitive to the irritation from a beard. This is why I like ladies that are not too young, as I think they have more experience with the pleasures of DATY, and they are more experienced with farangs with beards. There are no guarantees here, but you make choices to increase your odds. This is why I love Crazy House. The girls are less shy (if they are getting naked in the bar) and I can see what I'm buying. Frankly, the average good looking Thai 30 year old is pretty hot to me, so I'm easy to please in that way. I really don't want a 20 something from Bacarra that is just going to lay there like a rug.

    One thing I try to do is motivate a lady with repeat business. I'm usually in town for a week, or so, and I try to hunt as soon as I arrive to maximize the number of potential visits she might get from me, if I'm happy with the service. I think there is a bit of an "art" to mutually picking a lady in a gogo bar. You want a lady that picks you, and you like as well. If there is anything for her at all, I find it leads to a better experience overall. I bar fined the same lady (AOM) from CH almost every night my last trip. She was fun, and genuinely nice, but I think she was looking for a farang BF to help her get away from the gogos.

    As for scammers, they are like death and taxes, and unless it's really bad, I wouldn't press things too far with the bar, unless you're not concerned about burning any bridges. The reality is that the ladies and bars are like cable TV and cell phone providers. We pay a bunch of money, and usually things are OK, but if there is a problem, the customer service is next to non-existent. Switching companies (bars) is pointless as they all have their good / bad ladies.

    Scammers are everywhere, and it isn't like all the scammers are at Scammers A-gogo. I think ET found a happy medium by saying something to the mamasan, and leaving it there. After all, the bar doesn't care too much as long as they keep getting the barfine, and lady drink profits, from the girl. In fact, a hot girl that gets kicked to the curb before the session is over can make them more money as she can come back to the bar sooner, and get another BF or more lady drinks.

    I have typically only done gogo bars for take out, with occasional soapies and oilies, but my last trip I saw some serious lookers on the street around Nana. I had always avoided them out of concern of stories of the ladies trying to drug your drinks to rob you in the hotel. However, I may dip my toes into that pool if I get to visit again, later this year. We'll see how it works out. If I do, I will certainly report back here.

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