Bangkok Reports

[Mouse1]

Its a scam that some girls pull.

Yeah. They can try and pull whatever scam they like but I guess I was just very surprised that she was so angry when I wouldn't fall for it... She had no earnings all evening (she said), but definitely for at least 90 minutes. And for the sake of arguing over a few extra minutes she went home without any earnings.

[Oldian]

I had Saturday night to myself so decided to check out NEP and look for an AngelWitch regular, or failing that look for a car-park girl.

As I headed in to NEP I saw a very pretty and lively girl chatting to the ladyboys at the entrance. I had to step to one side and study for a few moments to convince myself that she wasn't a ladyboy. Anyway, went into AngelWitch but my regular girl wasn't there or had stopped working or something. So I was introduced to a new young girl. 18 years old and quite sweet. She had been working there 3 days. Really too young and too inexperienced for me, but I asked anyway, and she said 2000Bht + 600Bht for ST. How she kept a straight face I don't know.

Anyway, the mamasan pretty quickly dropped the price to 1500Bht, but I wasn't really tempted. So finished my drink and wandered outside. After a bit of roving around I walked out, and saw the lively girl still there. Stopped for a chat, and to cut a long story short, agreed 1000Bht ST.

So taxi to the hotel, chat on the way, and all very friendly. She's 25 years old, and has a job selling T-shirts in a market but needs some extra income occasionally. Into the room, and a quick drink, then we have our shower. I'm pretty tired after flying in, so ST is all I want, but I ask about LT anyway. She doesn't want to do LT (OK, no problem), and says for ST she will only stay 20 minutes. WTF? I try to make a joke of it, but she is adamant that it's 20 minutes maximum. OK, it may only take 20 minutes, but I really really hate to be rushed and the thought of her lying there with a stopwatch in her hand was really off-putting. So I politely explain that 20 minutes wasn't enough, but she would certainly be on her way within the hour. She pulled a face, so I politely said that she could go or stay, and it was up to her. She then said 'Now I see your cock I want to go'. I am by no means unusually over-endowed.

OK, up to you. I am feeling totally deflated now, so we get dressed in silence, and I hold the door open for her. She then asks me for money. What, money for taxi? No, 1000Bht that we agreed. I am genuinely more puzzled than angered, and say that if she wants to stay and fuck then I am more than happy to pay her 1000Bht. If she wants to go then she can go. I probably would have offered her some taxi money, but she started saying that some men take her back to their room and don't fuck, but still give her money. I am really at a loss to know what to say. It is more than just trying it on, she really thinks that I should give her 1000Bht because she has come back to my room, even though I had barely touched her.

At this point I become 'A Very Bad Man' and she storms out of the room. That is the first time I've ever been called that. I follow a few moments later and see her flagging a cab down, but when I call to her she completely blanks me, gets in the cab and off out of my life.

I am still puzzled by it all. The odd thing is that from first seeing her to getting back to my room was well over an hour, plus 20 minutes or so chatting and showering. And yet she wasn't prepared to consider staying more than 20 minutes. Go figure.

Don't even bother trying to figure it out. I had a regular awhile back, one who was nothing but sweet and good mileage. Come over once and in the middle of doing it, about an hour in, says to me, "you have to finish now ST. " This had never happened before. I told her of this and reminded her that ST was not an hour, but the damage was done. She got dressed and demanded payment. Gave her 300 baht for a taxi. Next day one of her friends saw me and said, "we heard you bad man, gave only 300 baht to X for ST. " I told her "no, I gave her money for taxi, not ST. " Friend said, "oh" and went with me that night!

[The Pro]

Its a scam that some girls pull.

They know that farang hate to be pressured for time, and they also know many farang are too weak to argue and have a guilty feeling, so if they go to the room, rush them for time or say their dick is too big and then I would guess 7 times out of 10 they get 500B or 1000B as taxi money to go home. Easy money for doing nothing, even if they just get 500B each time. Thats a lot of money to these girls when your basic Thai secretary in a Thai company gets under 10K baht a month for working in an office.

Agree the time with the price!

Any freelancer you tell them "ok, short time, 2 hours, xxxx baht" plus anything else you want special.

If you do not you leave the door open to the scam artists.

I had Saturday night to myself so decided to check out NEP and look for an AngelWitch regular, or failing that look for a car-park girl.

As I headed in to NEP I saw a very pretty and lively girl chatting to the ladyboys at the entrance. I had to step to one side and study for a few moments to convince myself that she wasn't a ladyboy. Anyway, went into AngelWitch but my regular girl wasn't there or had stopped working or something. So I was introduced to a new young girl - 18 years old and quite sweet. She had been working there 3 days. Really too young and too inexperienced for me, but I asked anyway, and she said 2000Bht + 600Bht for ST. How she kept a straight face I don't know...

Anyway, the mamasan pretty quickly dropped the price to 1500Bht, but I wasn't really tempted. So finished my drink and wandered outside. After a bit of roving around I walked out, and saw the lively girl still there. Stopped for a chat, and to cut a long story short, agreed 1000Bht ST.

So taxi to the hotel, chat on the way, and all very friendly. She's 25 years old, and has a job selling T-shirts in a market but needs some extra income occasionally. Into the room, and a quick drink, then we have our shower. I'm pretty tired after flying in, so ST is all I want, but I ask about LT anyway. She doesn't want to do LT (OK, no problem), and says for ST she will only stay 20 minutes. Wtf? I try to make a joke of it, but she is adamant that it's 20 minutes maximum. OK, it may only take 20 minutes, but I really really hate to be rushed and the thought of her lying there with a stopwatch in her hand was really off-putting. So I politely explain that 20 minutes wasn't enough, but she would certainly be on her way within the hour. She pulled a face, so I politely said that she could go or stay, and it was up to her. She then said 'Now I see your cock I want to go'. I am by no means unusually over-endowed...

OK, up to you. I am feeling totally deflated now, so we get dressed in silence, and I hold the door open for her. She then asks me for money. What, money for taxi? No, 1000Bht that we agreed. I am genuinely more puzzled than angered, and say that if she wants to stay and fuck then I am more than happy to pay her 1000Bht. If she wants to go then she can go. I probably would have offered her some taxi money, but she started saying that some men take her back to their room and don't fuck, but still give her money. I am really at a loss to know what to say. It is more than just trying it on, she really thinks that I should give her 1000Bht because she has come back to my room, even though I had barely touched her.

At this point I become 'A Very Bad Man' and she storms out of the room. That is the first time I've ever been called that. I follow a few moments later and see her flagging a cab down, but when I call to her she completely blanks me, gets in the cab and off out of my life.

I am still puzzled by it all. The odd thing is that from first seeing her to getting back to my room was well over an hour, plus 20 minutes or so chatting and showering. And yet she wasn't prepared to consider staying more than 20 minutes... Go figure.

[Evianist]

Last night I went to a go-go for the 2nd time. The first time was 10 days ago. A girl came up to me and said she remembered me, told me where I sat last time, and asked me if I had gotten a haircut since then (I had).

How do they remember you so well? I almost wish they didn't, so I could go in a place anonymously and pick a new girl without the same ones trying to claim me.

Also, the same girl couldn't talk so well because she'd been to the dentist that day to have a tooth removed because she wanted to have a smaller face. WTF? Is this common amongst thai girls and does it actually make your face smaller?

[Syzygies]

The girl's name is Gung who works at Baccara (sometimes). In terms of bar-fines etc. This girl has now reached status of being the 2nd top girl in the bar even though she doesn't turn up every day. She is very tallish, great smile, cute slim face and very pretty to farangs and mostly goes with farangs. This bar is not just for Japanese.

The bar probably has about 6 really pretty girls and a lot of more average but O. K. Girls. Not many real dogs.

Gung has very few new customers as many guys are booking her a week in advance. She quotes 4K long time and gets it without any trouble at all. Some guys will even tip higher. She would not bargain to 3K for example as she can make more than that with 2 short time encounters. Please don't bother to argue with me about the high price. I'm merely stating the facts about what a top girl can get easily. How many boyfriends? She doesn't know. Too many to count but probably none are proper boyfriends. Gung is clearly making well over 100K per month.

Gung's female friend rings up with great news. A guy took her (the friend) LT but didn't have sex at all. She was scared he wasn't going to pay. He gave the tip and she only checked later how much. The guy was incredibly generous in that he gave 6K just for her time with no sex.

O. K. I can hear some of you ISGers throwing up

One day an incredibly handsome man took Gung out from the bar and they went to a gay bar in Patpong vicinity. The handsome man then bar-fined a boy for the night. Gung got her fee for just being a guide, not that she would know the Patpong area at all.

Although gets lots of sex and claims to be a little bored with it all, she is still orgasmic and fun.

Hopefully now that she has covered all of the families debts, she will see fit to save heaps of money in the bank for a rainy day.

As it is, she gets to travel all round the country with all expenses paid by her clients, so doesn't need to use her own money that much.

Interestingly, if Gung doesn't show up to the bar, she doesn't have to pay the bar-fine as she gets no monthly salary at all. So she is like a free-lancer in a way. However to take out of the bar requires a bar-fine and she still makes drink commissions. Girls should try to sell drinks to help the bar even if the commissions are totally unimportant to them.

The life of a struggling bar-girl can be a little bit difficult but the very top girls have it excessively easy!

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[Mart Cham]

It is more than just trying it on, she really thinks that I should give her 1000Bht because she has come back to my room, even though I had barely touched her.

Ha, good one indeed!
Had a similar experience with a newbie beerbar girl from Naklua who basically fell asleep when we got back to my place (we had agreed on LT) WITHOUT having showered.
She woke up the next day, showered, put her clothes on and asked me for her 1K. I laughed and said "no honey, no money!" and she started undressing and said "OK can boom boom now!". No way for me of course and she was soon behind my door with her plastic bag. I found it both very amusing and weird though...

[Mart Cham]

Well, I regularly hangout at a number of upscale soapies and am quite satisfied with the experience. Though a bit expensive. This was the first time I went to NEP and found that most of the girls are considerably younger than the ones at the massage joints plus they get naturally wet whereas most massage girls will use a gel. Next time I will also try the Soi Cowboy bars and of course the NEP besides my favorite massage joints and also try to bargain down the NEP ST rate to a maximum of 1. 5k. BTW, I don't really like LT.

That sounds better! Don't dismiss freelancers and streetwalkers, there are some sweet and nice girls in this scene too you'll soon find out.

[Mouse1]

I had Saturday night to myself so decided to check out NEP and look for an AngelWitch regular, or failing that look for a car-park girl.

As I headed in to NEP I saw a very pretty and lively girl chatting to the ladyboys at the entrance. I had to step to one side and study for a few moments to convince myself that she wasn't a ladyboy. Anyway, went into AngelWitch but my regular girl wasn't there or had stopped working or something. So I was introduced to a new young girl - 18 years old and quite sweet. She had been working there 3 days. Really too young and too inexperienced for me, but I asked anyway, and she said 2000Bht + 600Bht for ST. How she kept a straight face I don't know...

Anyway, the mamasan pretty quickly dropped the price to 1500Bht, but I wasn't really tempted. So finished my drink and wandered outside. After a bit of roving around I walked out, and saw the lively girl still there. Stopped for a chat, and to cut a long story short, agreed 1000Bht ST.

So taxi to the hotel, chat on the way, and all very friendly. She's 25 years old, and has a job selling T-shirts in a market but needs some extra income occasionally. Into the room, and a quick drink, then we have our shower. I'm pretty tired after flying in, so ST is all I want, but I ask about LT anyway. She doesn't want to do LT (OK, no problem), and says for ST she will only stay 20 minutes. Wtf? I try to make a joke of it, but she is adamant that it's 20 minutes maximum. OK, it may only take 20 minutes, but I really really hate to be rushed and the thought of her lying there with a stopwatch in her hand was really off-putting. So I politely explain that 20 minutes wasn't enough, but she would certainly be on her way within the hour. She pulled a face, so I politely said that she could go or stay, and it was up to her. She then said 'Now I see your cock I want to go'. I am by no means unusually over-endowed...

OK, up to you. I am feeling totally deflated now, so we get dressed in silence, and I hold the door open for her. She then asks me for money. What, money for taxi? No, 1000Bht that we agreed. I am genuinely more puzzled than angered, and say that if she wants to stay and fuck then I am more than happy to pay her 1000Bht. If she wants to go then she can go. I probably would have offered her some taxi money, but she started saying that some men take her back to their room and don't fuck, but still give her money. I am really at a loss to know what to say. It is more than just trying it on, she really thinks that I should give her 1000Bht because she has come back to my room, even though I had barely touched her.

At this point I become 'A Very Bad Man' and she storms out of the room. That is the first time I've ever been called that. I follow a few moments later and see her flagging a cab down, but when I call to her she completely blanks me, gets in the cab and off out of my life.

I am still puzzled by it all. The odd thing is that from first seeing her to getting back to my room was well over an hour, plus 20 minutes or so chatting and showering. And yet she wasn't prepared to consider staying more than 20 minutes... Go figure.

[Mart Cham]

Outside of extra tips because they are so damn sweet, I don't pay any different and make that clear to them. So it just weeds out all the wham bam thank you girls very very fast and keeps the gems.

That's my approach too and I am pretty happy with the results. Also I do not have too many expectations when I go with a gal for the first time. Another reason not to be too generous: if I were I would start building up expectations.
If they then become a "LT buddy" there might even be nights spent together without sex but they always get the same amount in the morning.
Being fair with nice, sweet girls is always rewarded: one of my regular girls told me recently that I should stop giving her these 100 bahts taxi money because she always gets back home by MRT and that costs less than 30 bahts. You've got to love them.

[Mackin]

My body was tired from the time change and long flight. My mind however was ready to go. Guess which one was the winner?

So off we go to Akane... Had never been there and decided it was time to see what it is all about. Also it was close to where I was staying.

The line up was about 8 to 10 ladies. Nothing was an 8 or higher but several in the acceptable 6 and 7 range. I picked Miss f. At Tiny little spinner as she looked happy to see me and i figured that was a good thing. Off we go to the room and I get naked and we head for the shower. Now I have had girls who scrub you pretty good but nothing like this. She gets out the ole brillo pad for washing the dry food of the frying pan. The first two layers of skin were removed off my back. She did leave some hair on the legs and lucky for me the chest. The important area was done by hand. I was relieved .

Now back to the room for the main course. First the back and legs . then the flip. A fair massage, didn't expect greatness. Then flip again. "Can you raise your butt in the air". "Of course I can." Then from behind a hand grabs the boys and all and starts the massage. Soon she is kissing and licking things from behind. A few minutes later it is back on the flop.. A cover is applied and the lip service starts. I proposed a little DATY and she agreed. This went on to completion. Nothing further was offered or asked for. I am sure it is available but seeing as it was my first visit it was most likely on the back burner if available.

Would I recommend it ? Yes for something different and a change of pace. I will return but other places need to be investigated,

[Mackin]

My body was tired from the time change and long flight. My mind however was ready to go. Guess which one was the winner?
So off we go to Akane... Had never been there and decided it was time to see what it is all about. Also it was close to where I was staying.
The line up was about 8 to 10 ladies. Nothing was an 8 or higher but several in the acceptable 6 and 7 range. I picked Miss f. At Tiny little spinner as she looked happy to see me and i figured that was a good thing. Off we go to the room and I get naked and we head for the shower. Now I have had girls who scrub you pretty good but nothing like this. She gets out the ole brillo pad for washing the dry food of the frying pan. The first two layers of skin were removed off my back. She did leave some hair on the legs and lucky for me the chest. The important area was done by hand. I was relieved .
Now back to the room for the main course. First the back and legs . then the flip. A fair massage, didn't expect greatness. Then flip again. "Can you raise your butt in the air". "Of course I can." Then from behind a hand grabs the boys and all and starts the massage. Soon she is kissing and licking things from behind. A few minutes later it is back on the flop.. A cover is applied and the lip service starts. I proposed a little DATY and she agreed. This went on to completion. Nothing further was offered or asked for. I am sure it is available but seeing as it was my first visit it was most likely on the back burner if available.
Would I recommend it ? Yes for something different and a change of pace. I will return but other places need to be investigated,

[Linga]

Reading such reports reminds me why I don't barfine there anymore (although I've never paid such prices there). So you're looking at 2000 + 600 + 300 (loom) + 300 (2 drinks) = 3200 bahts for 40 minutes of starfish experience in some (should I say most?) cases.

4K for LT a better deal? A less obvious rip-off yeah. Dude, do yourself a favour and go to a soapy/oily! If you want LT, shop on the street or at freelancer joints.

Some girls, many girls really don't do LT. Not only in gogo bars.

Well, I regularly hangout at a number of upscale soapies and am quite satisfied with the experience. Though a bit expensive. This was the first time I went to NEP and found that most of the girls are considerably younger than the ones at the massage joints plus they get naturally wet whereas most massage girls will use a gel. Next time I will also try the Soi Cowboy bars and of course the NEP besides my favorite massage joints and also try to bargain down the NEP ST rate to a maximum of 1. 5k. BTW, I don't really like LT.

[Mart Cham]

Something must be wrong with the girl selection process. I almost never had starfish when selecting experienced bar girls who dance with a bit of sexy pazzaz. Of course she must act in a way indicating our chemistry is good too. I don't treat girls like fucking machines, I hope. Newbie or very shy girls can be somewhat starfish. Also girls that are very scared by size of the dick.

I think its really key to make sure you have really good chemistry with a girl before taking her if you are looking a GFE. Being too stingy on the price bargaining obviously won't help a lot.

When you go to a Soapy, its more difficult to tell if they will be a good fuck. More of a lottery.

Don't worry for me, I haven't had a starfish style session for quite a long time and I know how to select a girl. However I've never spent 2000 bahts ST on a bargirl, ever! And if a session lasts 40 minutes shower included I tend to think that starfish was on the menu.

[M P Lurker]

How comes every bar I go into the girls start hassling me repeatedly telling me to smile and act happier? Do they want you to walk around with a weird artificial smile plastered on your face at all times? Like the joker?

I started a new policy where if a girl tells me to smile I immediately drop her from the potential barfine pool.

Instead of telling me to smile, how about making me smile?

Don't worry about it. This is real common. Many girls are not smiling much either. I just answer that I am bored. We are not actors too!

[Mr Enternational]

How comes every bar I go into the girls start hassling me repeatedly telling me to smile and act happier? Do they want you to walk around with a weird artificial smile plastered on your face at all times? Like the joker?

I started a new policy where if a girl tells me to smile I immediately drop her from the potential barfine pool.

Instead of telling me to smile, how about making me smile?

You are fucking telling me. I hate when chicks who I'm on the webcam with say that. I'm like I'm in front of a computer screen, not at a comedy show.