Bangkok Reports

[Robert Long]

I never use TF or sites like it but I've always wondered how many losers who can't get dates waste these girl's time by meeting them for coffee and dinner with zero intention of sex later or worst yet seeking free sex later.

Free Sex is an Oxymoron, it's never free. If you have a lady GF her needs out weigh the price you pay for an FL. All the cosmetics and facial masks and paint the nails and shampoo and conditioner and then feed her the same as we eat. Take her with you when you travel and then it really gets expensive.

I have had Ladies that have accused me of wanting free sex and I just laugh. Experience tells that a relationship with a lady lasts one year if it's good. I get tired of fucking the same lady after 1 month. Variety is the spice of life. It's in our genes and males are meant to hunt and kill and bring home the bacon.

RL.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

I don't usually keep track of drink prices so I couldn't respond until I went out tonight. Skipped going out on the crazy final day of Songkran. I ordered the exact same non-alcoholic drink in the 6 bars I visited tonight. Beer and other alcoholic drinks would be significantly more expensive.

Walking Street.
Baccara 155.
PinUp 90.
Palace 110.
Panda 130.

LK Metro.
Dolls 95.
Kink 115.

So really a cheap night out if you don't buy lady drinks. 690 baht for 4.5 hours. Unfortunately, I always buy lady drinks.

In many Pattaya gogos it is actually cheaper to drink draft beer, at least during happy hour, which they heavily advertise with signs held up by the girls outside the gogos, than non-alcoholic drinks. And some gogos, although they don't advertise it, have cheap draft beer prices on their drink menus, like Palace, which has (had?) a 95 baht draft beer on it's drink menu.

[Banana Boi]

How much is a customer drink? I am used to 160 to 170 Baht in Bangkok although some bars are cheaper than that for non-alcoholic.

I don't usually keep track of drink prices so I couldn't respond until I went out tonight. Skipped going out on the crazy final day of Songkran. I ordered the exact same non-alcoholic drink in the 6 bars I visited tonight. Beer and other alcoholic drinks would be significantly more expensive.

Walking Street.
Baccara 155.
PinUp 90.
Palace 110.
Panda 130.

LK Metro.
Dolls 95.
Kink 115.

So really a cheap night out if you don't buy lady drinks. 690 baht for 4.5 hours. Unfortunately, I always buy lady drinks.

[BionicMan]

Last night I stopped in at Charoen Pharmacy on Suk between Soi 4 and the overpass for my visit supplies. It was almost completely empty, all the shelving units bare and pushed together. The counter where the magic blue pills live was still there and staffed, but not for long: They will be closing at the end of the month. It's been my go-to place for something like four years, ever since it was recommended by, I think, Syzygies.

Is it the "big" one? Or a small one just next door run by some Chinese race Thai. I hope it is not this one closing.

Opposite the entrance of NEP there is one selling whatever you need.

[Sunlover2]

Last night I stopped in at Charoen Pharmacy on Suk between Soi 4 and the overpass for my visit supplies. It was almost completely empty, all the shelving units bare and pushed together. The counter where the magic blue pills live was still there and staffed, but not for long: They will be closing at the end of the month. It's been my go-to place for something like four years, ever since it was recommended by, I think, Syzygies.

Sorry to hear you squandered four years. The pharmacy inside Foodland on Soi 5 is / was cheaper.

SL.

[Oosik]

Last night I stopped in at Charoen Pharmacy on Suk between Soi 4 and the overpass for my visit supplies. It was almost completely empty, all the shelving units bare and pushed together. The counter where the magic blue pills live was still there and staffed, but not for long: They will be closing at the end of the month. It's been my go-to place for something like four years, ever since it was recommended by, I think, Syzygies.

[Oosik]

the price marked for the 90 min is always 3500 baht.

Thanks. I didn't think I looked THAT gullible!

[MissionBJ]

Hello mongers,

I wanted some action other than the usual Spa / massage places, so this time I went to a famous Beer garden on Soi 7. There was no bar fee or drink requirement, still out of courtesy got one drink and roamed around the bar, could not find 1 single girl I wanted to take with me, some time later I like this one chick who was nice looking and was the only one I was interested to take, but she was already chatting with a old white dude and would not even consider talking with me. I waited for her for almost 30 minutes (yes she was hot) but same cold response. By this time bar was almost closing so I left. I was now a bit thirsty so walked to nearest 7-11 and bought myself a drink. I was standing outside having my drink and all those ladies who were at the bar came to the same seven eleven and sat near me, still some perusing me.

Also there was this 2 chicks who were kinda hot walked by, but they kind of looked liked lady boy. Usually I am good at spotting them, but this was a tough one for me. So decided not to risk.

So now I walked towards soi 11 where I remember there were bunch massage places open 24 hrs, so but to my surprise they were not there now. So I called Uber to go back empty handed.

The uber guy had some problems reaching my location and there was language problem with us, so I stopped a girl walking by who I thought would know English as she looked bit upscale, to help me talk to uber, which she did perfectly and told me that he was in opposite soi and would take him 5 minutes to reach me. I said thank you to her. Then she asks me if I wanted her to come with me. I was surprised as she looked like noral shopping malll girl, I asked the price she quoted me 3500, I didn't even try to negotiate, just asked her if she will show good time and if she does BJ, bot were solid yes.

So in come our uber and we go to my hotel, she told me she works in pratunam mall during the day and she occasionally does this when she needs some extra cash. She gave me a awesome BJ, her tits and figure was awesome, did her doggy and finished with Anal. We chatted a bit, after which I don't know when we fell asleep. When I woke up, saw her leaving and waving hand. Was still sleepy so didn't get up. Later realized. Darn didn't get the number.

Overall amazing night of my life.

[Paolo99]

Sounds like the Smooci program has leached into those TF girls' agenda; 1000 baht paid upfront on arrival and all that crap. Too bad.

We all know that you don't like Smooci but to be fair, this 1000 paid upfront (in Smooci, not from the TF girls as in the post below) is probably to protect themselves from the many "losers" that they might meet.

I used Smooci several times and had never been asked to pay upfront by any girls (but never met the "independent" ones).

And frankly if the girls from TF knew about Smooci, don't you think they would make an account on Smooci and charge these higher rates? These TF girls are the bottom of the barrel and are completely clueless to what happens around them.

[Paolo99]

I never use TF or sites like it but I've always wondered how many losers who can't get dates waste these girl's time by meeting them for coffee and dinner with zero intention of sex later or worst yet seeking free sex later.

There are probably a lot of shitty guys on TF but the vast majority of these girls are not better in my opinion.

Before my last trip I spent a lot of time trying to find decent girls (I'm not meaning stunners, just average girls that look actually decent), and I spotted only very few.

Most of them didn't even reply, the cutest ones are only for premium members, and every thing else are garbage, bottom of the barrels in what Bangkok has to offer.

Finally I had 2 girls gave me their Line ID. Once I was in Bkk, I texted both of them, the first one read the messages but didn't find it worth answering me and the other one didn't want to meet up. So who is wasting whose time?

I deleted both of them. Most of these girls are very below average girls that act as if they were stunners. TF is worth the pain only for guys living there and having a lot of time to waste. You're wrong if you think guys are wasting these girls time, they just open their app continuously and reply to message once in a while. If actually guys were wasting their time, I think it would be well deserved.

[EihTooms]

Was saying that guys are losers if they go on TF, Badoo, etc. Only wanting a free date for companionship or free sex rather than using the sites seeking girls for PAID sexual services.

Just my opinion. If some of you guys fall in to that boat sorry to offend you.

BB, I wasn't trying to turn around what you posted to mean anything other than that. As far as TF girls being victimized by "losers" wasting their time goes, I also meant that there are probably as many quick and effective safeguards against that happening with direct P4P girls, FLs, on TF as there are in other options, even go-go bars.

[EihTooms]

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I think guys that are unsure if their date is a hooker or not, should make an effort to find out, and have her refuse to take money, rather than assume she does not expect any.
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I have to say this is an issue that pops up every now and then on the dating sites; girls who come on a bit sexy and forward but don't make it clear upfront that they expect money for sex. And then it turns out they get VERY insulted to the point of blocking you if you so much as ask for clarification. It happens. Maybe girls like that are playing games.

But the uncertainty can go further. Case in point was a girl I met on Tinder last week. No mention of being a FL or needing support / money the way some Tinder girls will. She did mention she was unemployed and looking for a job. We carried on enthusiastic conversations right up until she accepted a date to meet for lunch or dinner and I dared to let her know I intended to take care of the costs of dinner, movie, whatever we do when we meet. Her being unemployed and all.

"Why you tell me that?! Why you pay for my meal?! Do you think I am bargirl? I not bargirl! Not every Thai lady is same!"

She immediately unMatched me. LOL.

And it has gone the other way a few times, too, where there is no mention of money, the girl insists on paying for her own meal and our taxi ride. Then on her way out after a night of sex I offer to pay for her transportation or anything else she needs and the girl says nothing except how she hopes we can meet again soon. LOL.

What do you do then? Hand her the going rate for ST or LT, depending on how long she was with you and risk her outrage for not seeing this night as the first on our long march to the marriage altar? Hand her enough for taxi and see if her facial expression fills in the blanks?

[Gargano19]

Many guys claim that girls met are happy to go fuck them for free. Its not clear to me to what extent they may have expected money and did not get it. However not all girls want to be hookers. It is possible for girls to be horny. One would have to do an extended survey of the girls to really understand the variety of their expectations, and even then they would not tell the truth. The smart ones that are hookers, will surely state their price for sex, and why waste time on a dinner, etc.

I use TF a lot. I prefer to meet semi-pros, who do it for extra buck and TF is one of a good place to find them (and I just don't like Thermae, so that's not an option for me). I had few of my best fucks, with the girls I met on TF. They are not the ones who do it 5 times a day like massage girls, and every night like gogo girls. And it's pretty easy to tell which girl is ready to accept money for sex, but don't do it often.

And I agree with you, the regular freelancers don't waste time with dates, and tell the price upfront, which saves everyone's time.

I only met one girl on TF, who I fucked for free, because she never asked and she has a lot of money, I think more than me. She was just looking for a fuck-buddy, and luckily I was her type. We meet every week, and she stays for night and leave in morning. Won't have met her, if it wasn't for TF.

P.S. : I agree with bb's comment that TF has many "losers" who wastes girl's times, but TF is still a great place for those who can invest some time.

[ChicoBarca]

Just a few words on my own experience with social media. Last year in February I was for the first time in Thailand (BKK) and a total newbie and I still consider myself as such even though I have had 4 trips there since all with different experiences. The first time in BKK I used Tinder before my travel and had some good conversation with quite a few. Since I was travelling solo I found it to be an excellent way to meet Thai girls for the first time. A typical first meeting would be for a drink, the reason for this is if there is no chemistry it's a quick retreat. That didn't happen though. Then we could go for something to eat and to a bar afterwards. I have no issues about spending money for a good time, even if it should not end up with a happy ending. This was never the case though. And after the bedroom drill normally now late morning, I took the money up and was declined. All they wanted was taxi money since they have stayed later than expected and was in a hurry. For those of you senior guys here, you would probably say rookie mistake and I was lucky, and I would not disagree. My experience is from South America and the monger scene there, so here I'm a rookie learning to swim again.

The last experience I had was from Jomtien where I met up with some friends. Since this was a work related trip and only for a couple of days I didn't collect a lot of experience there. Well, we met up in a bar there and while I sat down with them I could sense that the bar girls could smell rookie blood. It's a long time since I have got this much attention from like 8-10 girls (only 2 of them that I found doable). Then out from no where a quite stunning girl came up, looked at all the girls and said, "he's mine". My friends looked at me and said with disbelief, what the F% just happen? They said this was the mamasan, and they have tried for a week to get her. Well, the drinking continued and the other girls still tried to get me, but could not get the mamasan out of my head. But she didn't show any interest at all, rather seemed quite cold. So by closing time I thought, well I wasted that night, nothing is going to happen. So we all left and since my hotel was in an other direction than the others we split up. I went around the corner and to the back side of the bar. And while I was walking up the street I heard a voice "Hi, did you forget me already? I looked up and there she was, the mamasan. We talked for some minutes and then she asked, where do you stay and can I see your room? Of course, I was like a kid on Christmas. Well, she was a firework and she stayed to late morning. And when I tried to sneak some money to her, she just looked at me and said. The only thing I want is that when you come here next time you promise to choose a hotel further away from the bar, I don't want the girls to discover this. So, my point is that even when you want to pay, some girls just don't want it. And just to make it clear, I'm pretty sure I'm not a 10 for the girls. Hehehehe. So that's definitely not the reason.

BB your post was a little difficult to understand, especially as a non TF or similar user. Maybe you were commenting on what other guys write about meeting girls via "dating" apps, who maybe trying to take advantage of girls rather than be taken advantage of, using the so called "dating".

I don't think we can put all guys in a box, the behaviour varies a lot.

I don't think ET's response was unreasonable, once I thought I understood it. The "losers" part could be just considered sending you up since you started that phrase. We are well use to ET having slightly exaggerated responses or takes on some issues, but not especially so this time.

[Syzygies]

Was saying that guys are losers if they go on TF, Badoo, etc. Only wanting a free date for companionship or free sex rather than seeking girls for PAID sexual services.

Many guys claim that girls met are happy to go fuck them for free. Its not clear to me to what extent they may have expected money and did not get it. However not all girls want to be hookers. It is possible for girls to be horny. One would have to do an extended survey of the girls to really understand the variety of their expectations, and even then they would not tell the truth. The smart ones that are hookers, will surely state their price for sex, and why waste time on a dinner, etc.

I suppose there must still be extremely shy girls that cannot say how much money they want, but I don't know the percentage. I still get bar girls that never negotiated a price, but I still pay them very fairly or better if performance, attitude and work rate was above normal.

I think guys that are unsure if their date is a hooker or not, should make an effort to find out, and have her refuse to take money, rather than assume she does not expect any.

One of my regular girls seems to like dick, stamina and oral sex. She doesn't get paid exactly on a per session basis. I am sure she has had many guys pick her up from a club for free and she would be looking for a great fuck. Her type would be typically a lot younger, handsome and more muscly than myself. Would love to have met her 15 years earlier in her prime. She keeps coming back, for multiple reasons, sometimes short of money, sometimes short of a good fuck.