Bangkok Reports

[Sammon]

You're probably not mistaken and can find willing WL models with a little effort. I've taken pictures on previous visits some of which can be found in the Photo Gallery and/or it's archives. Don't know the law in Thailand, but it may well be that nudity is illegal, as is prostitution. LE doesn't seem to actively pursue, but some discretion may be advisable.

Being a tourist, I carry a camera with me at all times. If you're in Soi Cowboy as bars are opening at 4PM, you may find photo ops as I have. If the bar isn't crowded and you're the first customer, the girls may happily trade topless pics for the purchase of drinks. If you're the type of monger that gripes and groans at paying 1500 baht for ST, you'll probably choke and gag at the thought of paying for just pictures. The choice is yours, but I've found it to be good entertainment for the money.

You may also have likely success at Beergarden on Soi 7. Let the girl of choice know you're interested in ST AND pictures and she may not charge extra. From my experience no hidden cameras or deception is necessary. MPs tend to be more problematic, but not impossible with some discretion.

There's entirely too few honest and uncensored images of providers in the Thailand Photo Gallery. I'm hoping you'll share some of yours when you get the chance.

There are some important aspects of taking and posting pictures in this forum. Most girls will agree for clothed pics and action pics that do not show their face. If you put clothed pic and action pic you can imagine the total pic.
I do not believe working girl pics need to be photoshopped to mask her identity. You are not posting it in facebook or any other easily accessible website.
On the other hand pics of normal girls can be posted here but hide the identity.

[Starchild2012]

Well said Star. You nailed it right on head.

I'm going to LOS again in December and I'll be hunting for russians as my over night companions. And planning to visit soapies to taste Thai girls during day time.! Best of both the worlds!

Cheers

AK

Good luck bro..yeah...BKK and Pattaya truly gives us a place to try it all at once....

[Kumar Arun]

However, in reality the quality was high but not that high and some of them have attitude problem. Also some A+ goes empty handed. According to the Russian they usually move to Spicy or Shock after 2am. However, she does not seem to worry too much about the high price in CM2.

I hope that some senior member may be able to shed some light on this issue.

for me CM2 is "Da Place".

1. it gets crowded earlier (11.30PM)than many clubs - so u can pick up girls still fresh and have more fun time with them.

2. Good Music (do we really care about it when we are hunting..?

3. better quality gilrs than many clubs as well Grace junction

So c u at CM2 on 26/12.

Cheers,

Ak

[Cyberspace]

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Everyone: I had kind of assumed from reading posts that enough WLs said yes to video that anyone could get visual souvenirs by just continually asking if 'click-click is on the menu' - or maybe by having a tripod set up next to the bed, and discuss it when the lady is in your room.

Am I mistaken? Is it actually quite rare (or at least for those women you want to remember, and look at photos of later)?

Does offering an extra tip help convince many who are resistant at first (and how much)?

I don't think I morally agree with filming without consent, but had planned on coming back with some video for later perusal, and lots of pics for the forum, so morality may lose out in the end.

You're probably not mistaken and can find willing WL models with a little effort. I've taken pictures on previous visits some of which can be found in the Photo Gallery and/or it's archives. Don't know the law in Thailand, but it may well be that nudity is illegal, as is prostitution. LE doesn't seem to actively pursue, but some discretion may be advisable.

Being a tourist, I carry a camera with me at all times. If you're in Soi Cowboy as bars are opening at 4PM, you may find photo ops as I have. If the bar isn't crowded and you're the first customer, the girls may happily trade topless pics for the purchase of drinks. If you're the type of monger that gripes and groans at paying 1500 baht for ST, you'll probably choke and gag at the thought of paying for just pictures. The choice is yours, but I've found it to be good entertainment for the money.

You may also have likely success at Beergarden on Soi 7. Let the girl of choice know you're interested in ST AND pictures and she may not charge extra. From my experience no hidden cameras or deception is necessary. MPs tend to be more problematic, but not impossible with some discretion.

There's entirely too few honest and uncensored images of providers in the Thailand Photo Gallery. I'm hoping you'll share some of yours when you get the chance.

[Bkk Rookie]

Arrived in Bangkok after 23 hours flight (13 hours flight plus 10 hours business only stay in Dubai). I was tired so went to Beer Garten in soi 7 and got pissed. On way back picked up a nice slim cute girl in front of Landmark hotel. The girl was well-spoken and had an excellent sense of humour. She had been to Singapore and Hong Kong on ‘business’ trips. After about an hour of interesting discussion I realized that I am talking to a lady boy. Unfortunately, the same happened in my previous trip. Probably, the reason is my obsession with tall girls and beer goggles.

Anyway, instead of accepting 200 BHT and leaving she insisted on taking my professional (not very professional in her case) advice. After spending another half an hour and 1000 BHT I finally manage to convince her that reconstructions surgery is not my speciality.

It was too late by that time so decided to call off the day and went to sleep.

She was working at the yellow umbrella sidewalk bar, right? The first one is ladyboys, the second has ladies.

Go to the second, ask for Bell.

[Bkk Rookie]

For the record, "Russians" (Uzbeks) in Rajah (Sukhumwit Soi 4) or Mike (Soi 3) hotel are 2500 for ST. Some of them look passable. The ones crawling around Grace (Soi 3) go as low as 1000 / shot (but 1500 is more typical). Of course, they'll try a higher asking price.

Dude, them Uzbeks on Soi 4 are f-ing scary. They will cut a brother. They are some serious hard-core strange. I've seen them pick fights with falangs in the 7/11 across from the Rajah, seemingly "just because. " The check-out girls are always yelling at them about something or another. Run, run far.

[Bkk Rookie]

Aspen Suites is GF. They do not check nor ask for ID.

My experience was different, re the ID cards, but that was last year. One could wave off the guard, but the presumption was to check and record the ID.

Perhaps they grew tired of this?

[Bkk Rookie]

i've stayed there, see answers inline, below.

i'm staying at the aspen suites and have a couple of questions:

1- how far away is this from soi cowboy and nana? is it best to just take a cab there?

nana is a quick 10-min walk. it can seem longer if you are drunk, or doing a speak-no-english walk with your latest friend. it's about 2-300 meters to annie's soapy, turn right, and then 50-74 meters to soi 4. they have a tuk-tuk service that will drop you off, but not bring you back. tuk-tuks in front of nana entertainment plaza can be had for 100 thb, some down to 40thb if you explain how short the trip is. (just repeat soi 2 a number of times.)

2- are katoeys really *that* hard to spot?

if you have to ask, then yes. lots of hints on spotting them can found here and on other ibbs. most you will spot right away, others will surprise you. if you are lucky the surprise will come before you get back to the aspen. here's a suggestion: nearly all women can bend their elbow beyond 180 degrees (ie, backwards) when extending their arm. nearly all man can not. if you never go out with a "girl" who can't extend past 180 then you've decreased your risk considerably.

3- i noticed some reports on **** girls and "cards". to avoid possible legal problems, what is the protocol for id, and is it normal to ask them to produce it?

yes, it is normal. before you go with a girl ask two important id related questions: 1) you have id card? 2) okay you go hotel?

if the girl pushes for a short-time room to the point of refusing your hotel, especially one so close, then you should be careful.

you can diminish the risk of legal trouble by allowing the hotel to check and hold the id card. fwiw: somehow the thai police always know when to knock down the door to catch the tourist literally with his pants down. not all payoffs to the police come in the form of tea-money. don't make yourself someone elses bribe. lots of lovely ladies in their early twenties who have ids and need them because they look so young. you'll not go wanting.

remember this: 543. an easy sequence, no? look at the id, subtract 543 from the birth year and what's left is the western birth year.

4- for lt, is there something that needs to be worked out with the hotel desk?

not at the aspen. heck, on tripadvisor some punter bragged about all the ladies he brought back with him to the aspen, and the management replied it was happy the guy and his friends felt welcome.

iirc (one year ago) as you enter the hotel a guard will ask you for her id. you can elect to waive him off, but you shouldn't. if the girl is in the game, the she knows the score and will not cry foul. you can also make a joke with the guard by asking "not ladyboy, yes? " ha-ha. call it a last line of defense.

thanks for any help on this. i don't expect to get many replies, but any at all would be very helpful. i intend to report on anything that i find. thanks a lot, guys.

gl/hf

[Kumar Arun]

Great info Croc...I'm from India and most Asian's and Arabs are crazy about white skin and would happily pay a premium to fuck a blonde.....
Believe me, for a regular working guy to go to Europe and fuck a blonde is a big deal..its not easy...its much easier if we find them in Thailand.

Well said Star. You nailed it right on head.

I'm going to LOS again in December and I'll be hunting for russians as my over night companions. And planning to visit soapies to taste Thai girls during day time.! Best of both the worlds!

Cheers

AK

[Global Surfer]

Unlike Dubai where most bars do not charge wgs and instead offer them a couple of free drinks, CM2 charge them the same amount as other guests. Usually BHT 650 and on Halloween nights BHT 899. This means that they have to spend 15% - 20% of their income in just entering the bar. Ratio in the bar is also not favourable for them.

This should have a few implications.
1 - Only stunners would attempt to come to the bar and even some of them have to go back empty handed.
2 - This should push the price up as they have to price in for unsuccessful attempts.
3 - They will be under pressure to get someone and cannot afford bad attitude.

However, in reality the quality was high but not that high and some of them have attitude problem. Also some A+ goes empty handed. According to the Russian they usually move to Spicy or Shock after 2am. However, she does not seem to worry too much about the high price in CM2.
I hope that some senior member may be able to shed some light on this issue.

[Franco Cozzo]

Pahllus: Do so many girls say no to pictures and video that it is worth using a hidden camera and the risk of possible jail time? This is an actual (as in not rhetorical) question.

Everyone: I had kind of assumed from reading posts that enough WLs said yes to video that anyone could get visual souvenirs by just continually asking if 'click-click is on the menu' - or maybe by having a tripod set up next to the bed, and discuss it when the lady is in your room.

Am I mistaken? Is it actually quite rare (or at least for those women you want to remember, and look at photos of later)?

Does offering an extra tip help convince many who are resistant at first (and how much)?

I don't think I morally agree with filming without consent, but had planned on coming back with some video for later perusal, and lots of pics for the forum, so morality may lose out in the end.

[Mr Enternational]

At about 1 am I met a blond ethnic Russian from Kazakhstan. She was very friendly and chatty although her English was poor. I asked her three times how much she wants but she just ignored my question. Later, I learned that she didn’t understand the question.

Damn I thought "how much" was the first thing in English that a working girl learned. If not, then it should be.

[Sunlover2]

1. I see Aspen Suites is on Soi 2 Sukhumvit. So it is very close to Nana (which is on Soi 4 - two blocks). Soi Cowboy is little further down. May be walkable if you are up for it during day time. Night time you can take BTS or motorcycle taxi. Traffic on Suk is bad all the time - regular taxi will take a long time.

Suk 2 to Suk 4 is one block really; given the odd/even setup.

Agree with taking the BTS to Soi Cowboy if it is raining or hot, but it only operates until midnight; and after midnight the traffic situation is much better. But If I picked up a lady on Soi Cowboy and was taking her back to Soi 2 I would take a taxi anytime of the day. Otherwise it is a leisurely 20~ minute walk.

SunLover

[BKK Dreaming]

Thai Elections are this weekend,

are the bars open or closed ?

BK

OOPS It looks like the elections were cancelled

I planned my trip months ago to miss them and I guess it worked !

Drink UP

BK

[Noclew]

4. Most hotels in the area are girl friendly (not sure about Aspen - never heard of it). The hotel desk with keep the girl's ID card until she leaves after she is done with you. Some hotels will call you and ask if it is OK to give the card back. Some don't bother. Nothing else to be arranged. If she does not have a card, they may not let her in.

Aspen Suites is GF. They do not check nor ask for ID.