Bangkok Reports

[Cyberspace]

Guess that it is natural for the discussion to go around a bit in and not always make sense, but this really takes the cake...

A new mongerer asks about the possibility for taking naughty pics and movies to which I respond (admittedly I do go off-topic in my response to him a bit by suggesting that he share with us his best pics and movies).

To this Harold chimes in that he has never met a Thai girl that wants her pics and films online, to which I respond that I haven't met one that wants this either and ask him what is his point.

Then based on this discussion you conclude that me and Harold have only met low class bar girls. The reason for this: high class girls don't want their pics and films on the internet...

Maybe your logic is impeccable and it is just me that is failing to follow it...

Sorry Fun and Sun, I respect your opinion but I believe the failure is yours. At this forum you'll find there's a common sense response protocol that follows almost any anecdotal observation or statement of fact related to monger matters. Responses will fall into the following general categories:

"I (fill in this space with any random ISG respondant) am outraged that you paid that amount. That same provider approached me and offered her services for half that amount, and I easily bargained her down to a third. You are the cause of inflation, and if you can't strike a better bargain when you come to Thailand you should keep your money (and all else) in your pants."

"I (again, fill in this space) am in fact supermonger and my super power is gaydar. I can tell you with absolute certainty when presentled with undersized, out-of-focus, and poorly lit images that the she in question is definitely a he. My authority is unassailable and the rest of the board will gleefully back me up when I tell you that even if she's bore a dozen children she has (or recently had) a dick."

And this category may most closely resembles Syzygies response to your statement:

"I (fill in this space) am in fact among only the most elite of mongers. Right now, I've got about seven or eight women whom I see on a regular basis -- P4P and non-P4P. Last night I was with one of them, (a 19+/-yo fresh from E-sarn), and I received three booty calls and SMSs between 11 and 1am from other girls waiting to come over. A few nights ago, I had a threesome with the young girl and an older friend of hers. The two together were into this full on lesbian-teacher demonstration...fuck me, it was amazing! Lately, I've been asked to father children by several of them with promises of water buffalo and new Toyota 4WDs. I'm not joking"

Fun and Sun, I think you must be the only member of this board that isn't aware of these categories. This is the InternationalSexGuide, and this is simply what common sense is about here.

[Fun And Sun]

Guess neither of you met any real Thai girls, only the lowest class of bargirls, I assume.

Not all Thai girls are ready to be known as porn stars.

Guess that it is natural for the discussion to go around a bit in and not always make sense, but this really takes the cake...

A new mongerer asks about the possibility for taking naughty pics and movies to which I respond (admittedly I do go off-topic in my response to him a bit by suggesting that he share with us his best pics and movies).

To this Harold chimes in that he has never met a Thai girl that wants her pics and films online, to which I respond that I haven't met one that wants this either and ask him what is his point.

Then based on this discussion you conclude that me and Harold have only met low class bar girls. The reason for this: high class girls don't want their pics and films on the internet...

Maybe your logic is impeccable and it is just me that is failing to follow it...

[Bkk Rookie]

Has anyone tried the BDSM show in Patpong 2?

From what little I know about BDSM it's not something I'm into, and for 900THB cover charge I'm even less into it.

However, a BG I know switched to working there and I am ever-so-slightly tempted to pay the cover.

1) Worth it?
2) Likelihood of getting extra charges added to my tab, ala the urban myths of Patpong of old?
3) Ladies barfinable?
4) Only for true aficionados of BDSM?

[Bkk Rookie]

Nice report but pls be advised that one of the most popular providers in the upstairs Mandarin is a post-op ladyboy. Its really hard to notice and most of the punters seem to be blissfully unaware of her previous life as a boy. Hint: he/she has a piercing on the chin.
Mamasans are too pushy for my taste.

I had no idea. In truth, I'm not even sure which one you are writing about, but I'll be on the lookout next week when I go. Thanks!

I found the momasans at both bars pushy until I spoke to them very clearly that I didn't want or need help, that I knew how to game worked and that I was fine sitting alone.

No problems upstairs ever since, but I do buy the one Buriram (sp?) momasan the occassional drink ... but never more than one per night and no tipping her.

There is one momasan downstairs who is pushy but she gets the hint after awhile. But that's why I spend most my time upstairs.

[Farrider]

Winding up the Bangkok holiday. The climbing Baht and the general bilking of loyal patrons continues to make, at least BKK, less a haven for mongering. Everyone has their approach but I ended up dropping $100 at a hang out feeding two BGs drinks, but that's my sob story. Those good, cheap days are gone, me laments. Anyway, I was able to find three experiences (out of a dozen) worth noting here; one was a freelancer out of the New Wave bar on Soi 7. Chinese/Thai from Chaing Rai, Lucy Lui lookie. The usual hard luck story, but wow, what a fuck! Full menu. Next was a hottie off CL that I ended up with a three some with another BG out of NEP. It's easy when she picks them. But honestly, the best (or at least most memorable) was a session today with another CL score. Her working name is Nikki, she is not a regular post and does not include her phone contact. I was lucky enough to catch her and email to make the connection. She is a bit chunky, but a great rack and a hot box. She brought handcuffs and toys which were all the more fun for face sitting. The sex started fast out of the gate; this one came 2 times with me and a 3rd with the toy. Vocal, passionate, and very nasty. I am like everyone else looking for the spinner hot boxes but if you're looking for a hot chick with tits that will rock your world, check her out.

Happy hunting.

[Farrider]

This report is dated several months, sorry 1SG. Anyway. This was my 2nd date with Apple. I had found her previously on one of the escort websites and had the cursory email contact to set schedules. She rolls under "Bangkok Fantasy, " higher end and and it is everything the name implies. Truthfully I cannot say enough about her; she is a lovely gal, excellent English and does everything to make sure your experience is one of the best. The GFE package. She is the type of gal you can feel comfortable taking out and about as she is very refined, polite, courteous and will put you in the right directions with local customs. And she is the type of gal you want on an extended weekend or holiday, funny, hot and passionate. The sex is wild, lots of foreplay, almost the full menu range, intercourse is of course covered. No anal but I was able to finger and play with her a little so it could be a later option. As you can see from the pics she like posing and has a bit of a kinky side. Of note too and I didn't do the deal but she has a thing for while women. All the better for next time!

Enjoy the pics and happy hunting.

[Spider916]

Very high quality but catering more to the Thai/ Chinese taste. Half of them are barfinable the other half not. Count around 10.000 for entrance fee, drinks, lady drinks and shorttime.

Anyone have any firsthand experience with the expensive, private Pegasus on soi 23?

If so, what is the level of female quality?

[Spider916]

Nice report but pls be advised that one of the most popular providers in the upstairs Mandarin is a post-op ladyboy. Its really hard to notice and most of the punters seem to be blissfully unaware of her previous life as a boy. Hint: he/she has a piercing on the chin.
Mamasans are too pushy for my taste.

Quickie report gathered from too many nights over the past two months.

I have grown to rather enjoy the two Mandarin bars in Nana Plaza. Up the escalator, through the touts and then back in the right corner. One is on that same (second) floor and has table dancers, the other is up a flight of stairs (not the general use stairwell) and has two floors of fun, though one is rarely open.

The table dance Mandarins on the second floor has a number of elevated gogo dance platforms around which patrons sit, drink, flirt and play. The ladies range from 5's to 9's, with most being a nice 7. Some nights are better than others (for example, last night was stretch mark night) but the girls seem to enjoy dancing and often playfully compete with each other to see who can be the most imaginative and sexy. If you like girls with good attitudes, playful spirits and a strong GFE orientation, this is a good bar to hit.

The service girls are also in play, same 600 baht barfine as the regulars, but they don't get taken out a lot. For my money, it's like playing the pro-am circuit. Yes, they go with customers for money, so they are pros, but they aren't hardened or burnt out or over-worked in that regard.

Under the same general management is the upstairs bar (girls and momasans float between the two). As written in previous posts, the bar hosts two shifts (teams) of dancers. One short, young and topless. The other older and more exotic. There are no ladyboys. The young shift are as barely-legal looking as I have found in Bangkok, though most are in their early and mid-twenties. There is less pressure here than in most bars and while the momasans will try to get you to make quick barfine, tell them once you will make up your mind on your own and they will back away. Speak directly and they will act accordingly. Be non-specific and they will continue to try to hustle you into selecting a girl.

Early in the night the girls want 2000 THB for a short-time in your hotel, 1500 THB for a short time in a short-time hotel within Nana. Later you can get 1500 THB for your hotel, and 2500 THB long-time. The girls will never admit to these prices in front of others, but will cave quickly in private negotiation.

I've had success converting a 1500 short-time in my hotel into a 2000 long-time.

Be warned, however, if you go late you may well be customer number two or three for the younger, barely legal girls.

There is a mamasan from Buriram (spelling?) who is a bit of a large lady. Her English is very good and she is an excellent host. Buy her one drink and she will make sure you get what you want, aren't hounded by the other momasans and that the girl you go with understands what you expect.

GL/HF

[Mangofan]

Hi Franco

Lots of girls are happy to let you take naughty pictures and make naughty films, just ask her before you bar fine her. Don't wait until you get to the room since then she will say no.

The really hot chicks are a bit reluctant for nude and sex pics, but the less hot ones are usually happy to allow it.

That's pretty much been my experience. A lot of the go-go girls (even the really hot ones) will let you take photos of them but not nude ones and certainly not movies of sex. It is very rare today that the really hot girls will let you take naughty photos/videos of them - believe me I have asked. At least in Bangkok. If you go to Pattaya, then even the hot girls will sometimes let you.

[Syzygies]

Me neither. What's your point?

Guess neither of you met any real Thai girls, only the lowest class of bargirls, I assume.

Not all Thai girls are ready to be known as porn stars.

[NicFrenchy]

Just when you think all is lost and things are going down the pan fast its funny how there is always something to keep you interested.

Took a Beer Garden girl, reasonable looking and under 30 and she turned out to be really good in the bed.

I went there about 2 years ago and the scenery was so bad (both on the ladies and punters side) that I had to evacuate quickly.

[The Pro]

Just when you think all is lost and things are going down the pan fast its funny how there is always something to keep you interested.

Took a Beer Garden girl, reasonable looking and under 30 and she turned out to be really good in the bed.

Not on the level of a Tulip/Mango superstar however she was not far off and she was far better than your average performer at Tulip/Mango.

The real nice thing was of course that no gel or added lubrication was needed, she was dripping wet and super slippery all on her own and she was up for as many times as I could manage.

So there you go, never ceases to amaze, its brought back my faith in the BG Soi 7 that with perserverance you can sometimes turn up a diamond in the rough.

[Fun And Sun]

I agree, pics are a service to be agreed like CIM, "shit stinking anal intercourse" , etc

It rarely costs extra for pics though, at least in my experience.

Fun and Sun,

I think you bring up a very valid point in that photography may be on a providers menu of services, but it should be honestly negotiated for. As a counter example, I haven't met one thai girl that says she doesn't mind engaging in shit stinking anal intercourse and then have the details of her activity including name, location, price, and further carnal info posted on sex forums or the elsewhere on the internet. It's not my own personal sex preference but a casual perusal of reports here would indicate that it happens all the time. Of course the girls are in business and likely won't complain about getting more business. The chances of their friends and relatives joining the ISG and then stumbling on reports of their sexual activity is low, and the chances of their friends and relatives taking the further steps of submitting their own reports or paying dues to Jackson in order to view the image gallery are: null, void, zero, bupkis and zilch.

[Fun And Sun]

With all due respect, you make statements without proof.. How can you know that everyone on ISG is there because of the photo gallery? I, for one, am not. I am here because ISG gives me advice on where to go, when, with whom etc... But I have no interest in seeing any ISG member's penis inserted in an unknown cavity. And with regards to more "quality photos", there are better places on the internet to see erotic/pornographic pictures..To each his own, I fully respect those who like the photo gallery,but don't generalise according to your opwn taste.

I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing. I use ISG as a source of information too and that's the main reason I log onto here. If I want to check out some porn then I go to different sites too. However, I do enjoy checking out the pictures in the picture gallery too, to see what the providers look like and just for fun.

What I meant is that ISG is set up as a for profit organisation and therefore needs to make money from subscriptions. I believe that the main reason people pay the subscription fee is to view the pictures and not out of the goodness of their hearts, but you are right, I cannot prove this.

[Fun And Sun]

I haven't met one thai girl who has said she doesn't mind her images being posted on sex forums- nude or non nude- on the internet.

Me neither. What's your point?