Bangkok Reports

[Goatscrot]

Re. Thermae. Am I the only person here who will not shy away from a Thermae (or any P4P} girl just because she doesn't look at me or smile at me? From my experience even if they look bitchy while you cruise around with all the other guys they start smiling once you start talking to them.

It's like going to a non-P4P civilian nightclub. Do you guys only go for the girls who smile at you or do you go talk to the prettiest girls?

Unfortunately, that young girl is likely to return to Isaan than become a hooker. She will either get a retail job there if she's hot or just stay home with family and eat and live for free. Imo it's wishful thinking but I hope I'm very wrong.

I don't go to non-p4 p places looking to hook up. No interest in the least. And don't want p4 p places to be work or an ordeal either. Go in, select, have a great GFE / PSE whatever I'm in the mood for, pay, then leave. The only challenge I want is a choice between multiple decent looking and performing women. That's why I chose this place. It required no effort.

[11Bravo]

Some of us take that bitchy demeanor as a sure and early sign that this one will be a bad bet for a good time in the room. And, in my experience, I have yet to be proven wrong on that early impression.

That's why many of us move on as quickly as possible from a girl with a bitchy demeanor on first encounter. It isn't due to a lack of confidence and determination. It is due to our experience telling us this girl very likely has zero value to offer or to sell except for her good looks and it would be a waste of our time, effort and money to go forward expecting anything remotely like a True GFE/Real Sex in the room.

Just today, walked down Sukhumvit Soi 23, the several blocks of MP shops, seeing if there was anything interesting. About middle of the way, one shop had a number of cuties, including one, to me, stunner. She had her head down, busy with her mobile. I continued to walk to the end, wanting to check out all before making a commitment. As anyone who's made the walk knows, plenty of come-ONS.

Go back to the cutie shop, stop in front of Miss Stunner. Before I can say anything, she GLANCES up, milliseconds, no eye contact, no smile, nothing. In her world I didn't exist. She then goes back to her phone. Maybe she thought I was waiting for a bus, or was having a heart attack and she didn't want to get involved; I had been to Big C and was carrying a couple of shopping bags. No problem, makes it an easy decision for me. Pass. Yes, I could have told the manager I wanted this girl, paid my money, and had a half-assed massage, poor service from someone who couldn't wait to get back to their phone. Instead, I went elsewhere, with someone who was fun, with good service.

Another reason I'm not particularly keen on young'uns. Too wrapped up in their mobiles. Last year, another MP shop on Soi 23, cute young thing, up for a massage. At the usual moment, she brought up "extras", though her prices were on the high end. I demurred, she turned her back to me, pulled down her pants and shorts, and showed me her wiggling ass... "You want more?" Obviously, excellent marketing skills. Worked on me; made the deal, f / s, good enough to repeat. On the third time (third time's the charm, right?), finished with massage and f / s, 20 minutes to go, she's massaging my head. But it feels lacking. I turn around, and she's massaging my head with one hand, the other texting on her mobile. While I might admire her dexterity with the mobile, split attention is something I don't tolerate. Never have, never will. I get up, grab the towel for the shower. She's "Don't be mad, don't be mad. " "I'm not mad, finished. " And I meant permanently finished. Next time passing by, she's outside with her come-on, she's "You come inside for massage. " I just roll my eyes, with a no thank you. If someone doesn't value my business, pass.

And today, the girl I did take... Had to get her Line ID rather than QR code because she did not bring her mobile to the room; it was downstairs. Fun time with someone who smiles.

[EihTooms]

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Look, we ALL want that Thai woman whos drop-dead gorgeous to give us that mind-blowing romp in the bedroom we all desire. It's not usually the case. You'll just end up getting a cold-ass starfish (who's going to rush you to get your rocks off) and ending up 1000-2000 lighter in your pocket and a world of disappointment. If there's no chemistry between both parties, why pursue it?. Sadly, some guys let the little head do the talking. I've been with average looking Thai women who could mop the fucking floor against a so-called Thai beauty. Why push the narrative if it doesn't work?. If their body language indicates she's not interested in your services, move on!
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MeatMan

No doubt about it and I envy them in several ways, there are many punters whose main goal is to engage with the best looking girl in the bar, to be seen engaging with the best looking girl in the bar, to be seen leaving with the best looking girl in the bar, to be seen walking on the street with the best looking girl from the bar, to be seen arriving in the lobby of their hotel with the best looking girl from the bar and for whom what happens in the room is a distant second. Or further down the line than that. As long as it meets the most basic standard fare minimum, everything is "great!

I wish the only challenge I had on the P4P hunt was to find the best looking girl in the bar, no matter how sulky and dismissive of me she is at first, and then simply negotiating for the most reasonable price acceptable to both of us. I honestly can't think of more than 1% of the time when I or anyone reading this couldn't get such a girl to walk out with us and go to our room if that was the most important thing we cared about for the night. Easy.

[HorseTrader]

Re. Thermae. Am I the only person here who will not shy away from a Thermae (or any P4P} girl just because she doesn't look at me or smile at me? From my experience even if they look bitchy while you cruise around with all the other guys they start smiling once you start talking to them.

100% On-Point!. Look, we ALL want that Thai woman whos drop-dead gorgeous to give us that mind-blowing romp in the bedroom we all desire. It's not usually the case. If there's no chemistry between both parties, why pursue it?. Sadly, some guys let the little head do the talking. I've been with average looking Thai women who could mop the fucking floor against a so-called Thai beauty. Why push the narrative if it doesn't work?. If their body language indicates she's not interested in your services, move on!. There are a plethora of freelancers, and bargirls to choose from. Pick of the litter, fellas!. Think with your bigger head!.

MeatMan

I need a woman who's appearance turns me on, but she also has to show good interest in me. Without her showing interest in me, it is not going to be a great experience. I learned that lesson long ago. Next girl!

[MeatMan]

Some of us take that bitchy demeanor as a sure and early sign that this one will be a bad bet for a good time in the room. And, in my experience, I have yet to be proven wrong on that early impression.

That's why many of us move on as soon as possible from a girl with a bitchy demeanor on the first encounter. It isn't due to a lack of confidence and determination. It is due to our experience telling us this girl very likely has zero value to offer or to sell except for her good looks and it would be a waste of our time, effort and money to go forward expecting anything remotely like a True GFE/Real Sex in the room.

100% On-Point!. Look, we ALL want that Thai woman whos drop-dead gorgeous to give us that mind-blowing romp in the bedroom we all desire. It's not usually the case. You'll just end up getting a cold-ass starfish (who's going to rush you to get your rocks off) and ending up 1000-2000 lighter in your pocket and a world of disappointment. If there's no chemistry between both parties, why pursue it?. Sadly, some guys let the little head do the talking. I've been with average looking Thai women who could mop the fucking floor against a so-called Thai beauty. Why push the narrative if it doesn't work?. If their body language indicates she's not interested in your services, move on!. There are a plethora of freelancers, and bargirls to choose from. Pick of the litter, fellas!. Think with your bigger head!.

MeatMan

[EihTooms]

Re. Thermae. Am I the only person here who will not shy away from a Thermae (or any P4P} girl just because she doesn't look at me or smile at me? From my experience even if they look bitchy while you cruise around with all the other guys they start smiling once you start talking to them.

It's like going to a non-P4P civilian nightclub. Do you guys only go for the girls who smile at you or do you go talk to the prettiest girls?

I think you are missing the point of why experienced punters demanding a certain minimum level of service for the money are put off and move on from a girl with a bitchy demeanor on first encounter.

I don't shy away from the ones who do not smile at me. If I am attracted to their look, I still smile and approach them with a greeting and brief exchange, even in Thai. On occasion, they will respond enough to at least tell me how long and how much. And on every one of those occasions where I have "gone with flow" and taken them based almost entirely on their looks, it was a dreary waste of my time and money. Sadly, their good looks alone is not nearly enough to produce something close to Value For Money when it comes to P4P sex. For me.

Some of us take that bitchy demeanor as a sure and early sign that this one will be a bad bet for a good time in the room. And, in my experience, I have yet to be proven wrong on that early impression.

That's why many of us move on as quickly as possible from a girl with a bitchy demeanor on first encounter. It isn't due to a lack of confidence and determination. It is due to our experience telling us this girl very likely has zero value to offer or to sell except for her good looks and it would be a waste of our time, effort and money to go forward expecting anything remotely like a True GFE/Real Sex in the room.

[GettingFedUp]

People can be tested without kits, but there is such a thing as test kits according to CDC.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...t/testing.html

You seem to have overlooked the last part which states "FDA issued the EUA on February 4, 2020. IRR began distribution of the test kits to states, but shortly thereafter performance issues were identified related to a problem in the manufacturing of one of the reagents which led to laboratories not being able to verify the test performance. CDC is remanufacturing the reagents with more robust quality control measures. New tests will be distributed once this issue has been addressed."

There WERE test kits briefly, but they were withdrawn because they weren't up to scratch. As of CDC's last update (25-Feb) and my post of 29-Feb, no test kits!

[Allover]

Actually you're doing the scare mongering job yourself. There's no "testing kit".

Actually I'm not scaring anybody. I would not cancel a trip due to the virus itself if I had a trip planned. I might be concerned about flights being cancelled due to lack of passengers but the virus itself wouldn't hold me back. I like visiting Thailand when it's not busy. If someone else chooses to postpone a trip I understand that choice.

People can be tested without kits, but there is such a thing as test kits according to CDC.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...t/testing.html

[11Bravo]

Used to be such a fun place when I moved here 20 years ago. I was there 3 to 4 times a week for years. But the customer demographic changed and that ruined the place for me.

Agree. Was really a place that you had to see, earned its name of "Star Wars" bar. Still wasn't bad after it moved to the under-stairs location, but that started its decline. I liked the original, 2 room design. Like Annie's (RIP), another BKK casualty.

[Banana Boi]

I hate that place no matter how many times I pass by. The women in there are snotty and think their shit doesn't stink.

Re. Thermae. Am I the only person here who will not shy away from a Thermae (or any P4P} girl just because she doesn't look at me or smile at me? From my experience even if they look bitchy while you cruise around with all the other guys they start smiling once you start talking to them.

It's like going to a non-P4P civilian nightclub. Do you guys only go for the girls who smile at you or do you go talk to the prettiest girls?

Ha, I love this need to see if that strategy works next month when I am there. By then some reality should have set in.

Unfortunately, that young girl is likely to return to Isaan than become a hooker. She will either get a retail job there if she's hot or just stay home with family and eat and live for free. Imo it's wishful thinking but I hope I'm very wrong.

[Dupont88]

Get a grip please. Other good responses posted on here. As mentioned, this correction was long overdue. Even with the hit last week, I'm still up 15% for the last 12 months, and I'm an investment idiot. What's to complain about?

We saw the start of this with the Trump trade taxes, and this showed us where the weakness is. Companies have been working the short time returns so hard that they have moved to just in time deliveries from suppliers, and are sourcing huge percentages of critical parts from single suppliers in countries that are at risk for all kinds of issues (aka China). So when the shit hit the fan, guess what happens next in the Rube Goldberg machine that is the stock market? Companies have lost sight of long term health (you know, even a stool needs three legs to be stable) and stability, which is borne out by all the short term microsecond computer trading, which has exacerbated the market volatility.

You want a real eye opener? The current economy, at least in the US, is driven by the consumers. Now look at the wealth / income distribution. It won't be too long before the majority of the population is unable to afford the basic necessities. Ford had the right idea with his new automobile. He paid his workers many times the going labor rate so that they could all afford to buy the product they were making for him.

Try moderna. CLX. MMM. GILD.

[MichaelSamuel]

If this continues to worsen I would guess a lot of sweet young thing mall sales clerks will find themselves out of a job with no other visible options for support except the heretofore unthinkable, a job they would probably be fresh and brand new to, ready to learn and earn with the right attitude.

Ha, I love this need to see if that strategy works next month when I am there. By then some reality should have set in.

[Goatscrot]

I hate that place no matter how many times I pass by. The women in there are snotty and think their shit doesn't stink. A few months ago, I was there with a guy from Sri Lanka just looking over the place. When I walked past a few to use the bathroom, most of them had their noses so high in the air, you'd think it was up god's (or buddha's) asshole!. Fuck them!. (not in the literal sense).

Used to be such a fun place when I moved here 20 years ago. I was there 3 to 4 times a week for years. But the customer demographic changed and that ruined the place for me.

[MeatMan]

If it comes to it, those will be the ones I might need to assist finacially before I bother trying to flip the hardened, lazy hookers of Thermae or other waste of time established P4P venues to my way of financially rewarding commerce. Fuck no, man. I'll step right past and above the Thermae and Rainbow go-go bar level girls.

I hate that place no matter how many times I pass by. The women in there are snotty and think their shit doesn't stink. A few months ago, I was there with a guy from Sri Lanka just looking over the place. When I walked past a few to use the bathroom, most of them had their noses so high in the air, you'd think it was up god's (or buddha's) asshole!. Fuck them!. (not in the literal sense).

[11Bravo]

Sunday, mid-afternoon, headed out to MBK for some shopping. As now expected, crowds down, not as much as at Chatuchak, but still, very easy to move around, NOT ram-jam full. Finished there, and spur of the moment, since BTS Silom line right outside, decided to hop on over to Patpong and SOL. Hadn't been to SOL yet, and it was about time.

Late afternoon, Sunday, get to SOL, 3 girls outside, 2 tubs and a rail thin girl. NONE appealing; first strike. OK, so World it is. Find the stairs, walk up, World door open. Lights on inside, no A/C. Step inside. 1 girl plus bartender. Bartender recognizes me, says that Kartoon (or something like that) has the day off, but there is Kartoon's co-worker... Like SOL, not doable. 2nd strike.

Now, it was hot out, sun shining BRIGHT, and humid. I can only explain my next move was due to delirium. Walk over to the other Soi, to Rose bar. Gatekeeper outside, door ajar. Reaching a moment of sanity, I walk past. Then the delirium hits again: since I'm here, might as well check it out. Walk up the stairs to Grimness. 2 girls inside, one an instant reject, the other... has a rack... Sit down at the bar, ask how much for a Singha. "150". "No thank you", get up to walk out (which would have been the smart move right there). "OK, for you, discount, 100 baht. " I sit back down, obviously still in the grip of the delirium. "OK". Beer brought. I check out Miss Rack... The rack meets the minimum requirements, but as my gaze drifts up... I readily believe her when she says she has a daughter going to university in the US. Hell, it was probably grad school... You do the math. Finished the Singha, no need to linger and chit-chat, walked down the stairs, kept asking myself, "what WERE you thinking?" 3rd strike, should have just gone back to the dugout.

Considered Sukumvit, Soi 8's BJ bars, K-whatever, and the one around the corner, but... Had been there last year and not impressed. The shortest distance would be to ex-Som's Heaven (I can never pronounce, let alone spell, the new name); it's close to the Metro's Asok station. Convenient. But then, thinking... Been there last year and not impressed with the line-up nor the service... Mother thumb and her 4 daughters looking like the best bet...

But this is Bangkok, no need of solo enjoyment. Fine, I was in Patpong, Miss Rail it would be. Walked back to SOL. Just as I walked up, the clouds parted, with a SMALL ray of sunshine... A 4th girl was just arriving, dinner bag in hand. Decent rack, bit chunky, OK face. Anything below the waistline is not all that visible when she's on her knees giving her oil pump-jack impression... Gave her the nod; dinner for both of us would have to wait.

Inside, asked the price of a Singha. "All drinks same price, 100 baht. " You have to admire for SOL's straightforwardness; like a lady dowager, she has her principles... Beer came and into the back room we went.

Now, over the past couple of DECADES, the SOP has been the same: drop trou, sit down, lady cleans you with a wet wipe, and begins the extraction procedure. But this is the time of the COVid virus. Girl asks me to move to sink (more like a waddle with trou down), hang my junk over the edge so she can wash. "No have virus here; you see, I wash mouth too" after she'd used the Listerine. I'm laughing inside, but, afterwards, OK by me. I mean, how would you like to be filling out the transmission report for the health officials with a "well, this girl was sucking my dick and I guess I passed on the virus to her, dick to mouth. "...

Back to the bench (does this make me a back-bencher?) She asks if she should go topless (dumb question, experienced girls understand the value of visual stimulation), so that's a yes. Decent rack, oranges, nice handful. She begins a rapid up / down sucking, picking up the pace... I guess she's thinking the faster she pumps, the quicker she'll strike oil. Said she'd been there for 3 months (didn't recognize the names I knew from last year) and the inexperience shows. I provide some pointers as to what I like and the session improves. This is the SOL I know, a beer and a BJ... Now, if it only had the music of the World...

Just as I was finishing my beer, oil was struck. After a complete extraction, the usual SOL tissue grab and spit. Then directed back to the sink for both of us, me for a junk wash, her for another gargle. Paid the standard 700, plus 200 tip to the girl, a nice, round 1000 baht for beer + BJ.

WIR: Fa offered f / s, but if I wanted dinner, I'd eat elsewhere. But for a quick snack, Fa OK.

I wonder what has happened to SOL's staff. Previous years, there's always been 5,6 girls around at the same time, mid to late afternoon, at least a couple doable. Fa is doable for a BJ, but an order of magnitude less than last year's Mam. It really seems their staff is sparse, and getting close to the proverbial bottom of the barrel.

On my way home, what's the name of the tv advertisement, that has the tag line "I should have had... " popped into my head. In hindsight, I should have just gone to Suk's Soi 55, Sakura, for an hour's scrub, salt tapping, heat treatment, and tug. Yes, a tug less than a BJ, but that salt tapping... Nothing makes you feel cleaner. Have to be careful of my tunnel vision and start considering more alternative paths.