Bangkok Reports

[LA Guy 5]

I doubt it. Long Gun is one of the clubs that tells Arabs they aren't allowed in without a membership. Doesn't make much sense for them to discriminate against Arabs if it's owned by an Arab. I doubt that Rawhide is owned by him either. His clubs are the ones with those ridiculous Coyote girls. Neither of those clubs have Coyote girls. I think Tilac bar is the only bar with Coyote dancers that he doesn't own.

Although "the Iranian" is sometimes referred to as an Arab, Iranians as a rule are not Arabs; they are Persians. From what I gather Persians don't particularly care for Arabs either, although about that I don't know a lot.

[Syzygies]

I found it a bit difficult to get eye contact in general, but it was probably due to the many guys present so many of the girls were probably spoken for already. But after a while I started talking to just about the only girl who wasn't naked when on stage, go figure. Can't remember her name, but she had a nice figure with a bit more hip than most of them, plus a nice set of natural tits. She told me she wanted 6000 bht for LT, and even though I felt it was a bit high and generally don't like when they talk money that quick, I still ended up barfining her and took her back to my hotel.

Some girls don't want to do LT, so will quote extra high prices for it. The No. 1 girl in Suzie Wong can get several STs per night making maybe 2 K to 2. 5 K on each, so she doesn't like to do LT at all, unless she knows the customer well, or he wants to pay a huge amount. She claims she can hardly sleep if not in her own bed.

LT just isn't really a great idea anymore, except with your very regular girls that are known to be worth the price. A girl may set a lower price for it very late like 2 AM after she already did a ST or two. The big advantage of ST, is that if the girl is not great, you can straight away go get another one to replace her. Save LT for girls you know well.

[Syzygies]

I believe the rest. But Rawhide? I thought the same person that owns Long Gun (Lucky Star) owns Rawhide. The employees from the 2 seem to go back and forth. Why isn't Long Gun on your list?

Rawhide would be a mistake. Its not worth visiting in my opinion, crappy girls when I looked in there, but is the odd one out on the list. Was affiliated with Lucky Star (Long Gun). Haven't heard of any recent change.

Cowboy 2 has Coyotes but is not owned by the "Arab" so has different rules. Doll House has 2 or 3 coyote girls but mostly gogo girls and full nudity. Line up was down for uite a while but I may check again as saw a pretty staff member outside there a couple of days back. Tilac has some Coyote style girls as well, which I don't really approve of. Gyrating pelvis in jean cutoffs is just not really doing it for me. I like to see the tits and ass uncovered. Not many Coyotes on Cowboy are really that stunning, especially if excluding the "Arab" bars.

Lighthouse is closely affiliated with Sharks I believe. It replaced Sheba which was affiliated with Suzie Wong.

Cockatoo should definitely be avoided since its a LB bar. Deja Vu had 2 or 3 LBs also last time I looked (long ago), so Cowboy is no longer completely safe from LBs. They want to invade everywhere. Years ago was a big plus for Cowboy that could be sure there were no LBs.

The hottest looking natural naked girls are still in Crazy House to my taste (I like slim girls. Big tits not needed but have some of those too).

[Syzygies]

If one wants real quality GFE then ratchada MP's are way better than gogo's. I am talking about average hit ratio, once in a while I get lucky and baccarra hottie also turns out to be wild sex maniac so those pure luck incidents do not impact statistics.

I don't find Ratchada MPs to be any better for GFE hit ratio. Maybe I am too old. The problem is not being able to assess the girl that well before buying other than by looks. Also cannot predict how badly she will freeze up once sees your clothes off and hard-on. Too many girls expect a quickie fuck, and claim pain with slightest penetration. They are more used to Asian customers. Had much better luck in CPII between twenty years to 10 years ago.

Sure Bacarra is not the best hunting ground. To much adjustment, looking like aliens in there. However, once I could find a suitable natural girl in there (not easy), most were quite good for performance, having assessed chemistry. Don't remember any bad ones (poor memory?) and remember 3 very good GFE girls. So actually my Bacarra hit ratio is probably better than my Ratachada Soapies ratio. I exclude my regular Amsterdam girl (no risk since know her long time). However I left Bacarra many times (over 50%) empty handed, going to a different bar.

Gogos have been around virtually forever. They are not ruining anything. They have less business than they did years ago. LBs and Coyotes maybe are spoiling things a little however customers don't have to go there. Gogos are a place for girls to work where they don't have to fuck all night to make a living, and can choose their customers, and knock back others. The great looking girls will get customers easily, so less incentive to perform well. Others with average looks need to collect regular customers and so have to perform well.

Chocolate at Crazy House surprises me. I tried her once long ago at Doll House and she wasn't very good on the bed, looks not that special. Now I see she gets BFed quite early each night in CH. I don't understand why? Perhaps she is extra naughty? Old guys seem to like her.

I still like the beautiful curves of the more stunning naked girls. Its better also for guys that do not need to continually change girls since I make a collection of known good performers and only occasionally try a new girl when she is just too good looking to resist. Still plenty of good enthusiastic performers exist, and plenty of crap ones too. However I can find a dick scared girl in almost any style of shop other than the PSE ones. I don't need PSE. I like fun GFE.

Those that don't like gogos, simply don't attend. There are thousands of MPs to choose from.

[Goatscrot]

Gogo's and coyote are ruining what was once pussy paradise.

I would say yes to a certain extent. Dudes who pay those prices at GoGos have ruined the paradise. I voted with my feet long ago.

[DwayneJohnson]

The price are off the charts in some places. I was quoted 1500 barfine plus 5000 for LT for coyote girl at Mandarin. So I was looking at 7000 total when it's all said and done. A bit of a gamble for that price, who know if she enjoyed a healthy about of sex in the spirit of Ali vs Frazier or was a boring lay like Paqiuo vs Mayweather LOL. Quality was outstanding, but one has to draw the line somewhere on prices.

Gogo's and coyote are ruining what was once pussy paradise.

Freelancer scene is still better and Lumpini park FLs, Chinatown FLs are still cheapest for LT. If one wants real quality GFE then ratchada MP's are way better than gogo's. I am talking about average hit ratio, once in a while I get lucky and baccarra hottie also turns out to be wild sex maniac so those pure luck incidents do not impact statistics.

[Haverhill Lite]

There are no limits to surgery. One of the hottest looking "girl" in straps has got artificial pussy worth 300,000 baht.

I had the same feeling few months ago, later I decided to man up and took one of the beauties. She was way more feminine than few European girls I have fucked. Practically some of them are better than real girls but it is difficult to get over psychological barrier, I could not remain hard or come because of her past so sent her back. She was not accepting money unless I finish inside her (talk about dedication to service) so gave her money for movie date next day but just as a friend.

Good on you for giving it a shot. I've never been a fan of artificial or psychological limits (if you think someone's hot, they're hot). My concern would have been similar to yours. Not so much that I'd have trouble because of uh. Genetic gender and it bothering me, but because I'm easily distracted and even wondering would keep me from staying in the moment. It'd be like trying to solve calculus problems. Also I doubt this is a big deal in Thailand, but in the US if I just directly asked I'd run some serious risk of giving offense.

[Smoothy]

This list was posted in August, 2014. I bumped it for Dinotrex. There was an 8th club the poster could not recall the name of so that club may be Long Gun.

I doubt it. Long Gun is one of the clubs that tells Arabs they aren't allowed in without a membership. Doesn't make much sense for them to discriminate against Arabs if it's owned by an Arab. I doubt that Rawhide is owned by him either. His clubs are the ones with those ridiculous Coyote girls. Neither of those clubs have Coyote girls. I think Tilac bar is the only bar with Coyote dancers that he doesn't own.

[Banana Boi]

I believe the rest. But Rawhide? I thought the same person that owns Long Gun (Lucky Star) owns Rawhide. The employees from the 2 seem to go back and forth. Why isn't Long Gun on your list?

This list was posted in August, 2014. I bumped it for Dinotrex. There was an 8th club the poster could not recall the name of so that club may be Long Gun.

[Breadman]

The price are off the charts in some places. I was quoted 1500 barfine plus 5000 for LT for coyote girl at Mandarin. So I was looking at 7000 total when it's all said and done. A bit of a gamble for that price, who know if she enjoyed a healthy about of sex in the spirit of Ali vs Frazier or was a boring lay like Paqiuo vs Mayweather LOL. Quality was outstanding, but one has to draw the line somewhere on prices.

Guess I've lucked out pretty well this trip then, met a 'fresh' girl who didn't take a penny long time the first night. She drank 3 beers and I had to walk her to my room she was so drunk. 4 or 5 nights in a row with that girl and I gave her a total of almost 2000 baht combined although I did spend roughly 6000 baht on her in food, drinks etc. This was in pattaya. Didn't take long for me to find a very attractive girl who jumped at the chance to go long time with me for 2000 baht in Bangkok. Paul kausch has met this last one several times and keeps telling me I hit the jackpot, I'll take his word on it. Mind you, one barfine and she's been coming over after work around 2 am. So it gives me time to find other talent but still have something to hold on at night and well into the afternoon. Best of all both have been condom free the entire time. Not something I actively look for but if it happens with a somewhat non pro or one that probably isn't barfined as often (a non gogo girl), then the odds are in my favor.

How did I do it? Skout was very helpful in pattaya and a big smile and buying them ladydrinks was another factor. Just beware of the 'you take me somewhere' comments, meet family, friends etc. You don't want to take them near a shopping mall if you don't what to spend too much cash on them.

[Smoothy]

These are the 7 Bars in Soi Cowboy everyone should avoid like Plague:

1. Rio.

2. Kiss.

3. Deja Vu.

4. Midnite.

5. Sahara.

6. Rawhide.

7. Spice Girls.

They are owned by an Iranian Guy (popularly called "Arab") Apparently he was heard saying as below to one of his muslim friend (as told to me by a girl, I bar-fined from there, after paying up a heavily padded bill, and coerced to do so by bouncers):

"Our religion allows for cheating all Kafers, so this business model is not disapproved by our religion, And anyway these Kafers come here loaded with money, no harm losing a few thousand to my place, and no one knows which bars I own".

I believe the rest. But Rawhide? I thought the same person that owns Long Gun (Lucky Star) owns Rawhide. The employees from the 2 seem to go back and forth. Why isn't Long Gun on your list?

[Tony Hoeprano]

6 k for LT? I think that's the highest I've read in bkk and patttaya forums for an agogo girl. I hope this isn't the going rate for CH girls unless they're superior to warrant the higher rate.

The price are off the charts in some places. I was quoted 1500 barfine plus 5000 for LT for coyote girl at Mandarin. So I was looking at 7000 total when it's all said and done. A bit of a gamble for that price, who know if she enjoyed a healthy about of sex in the spirit of Ali vs Frazier or was a boring lay like Paqiuo vs Mayweather LOL. Quality was outstanding, but one has to draw the line somewhere on prices.

[Tony Hoeprano]

Can someone please share what except is a BJ Bar? I'm pretty sure I know what the BJ stands for. Is this the same type of place where you pay a bar fine and take a girl back to your place? Or is the "BJ" done at the bar? Or even more crazy, is the BJ done while you're just drinking at the bar?

Just wanted to conform because I remember in the Vietnam posts that there were barber shops that while getting a hair cut you're getting a BJ at the same time. Could be rumors though.

You can expect to get your cock sucked on their premises. If you like better looking girls go to Bitstyle on Soi 22. The lineup is pretty good, much better than the faring oriented BJ bars where they're either ugly, old, or a combination of the two. It's more expensive but I don't mind paying a little extra for quality. And it includes a free drink.

[Banana Boi]

Thanks Carp. I've been reading that some bars can rip you off in terms of how much they can charge per drink. Is this the case if I walk into any bar? Or do I just have to worry about buying multiple drinks for the girls? I'd hate to walk into a bar and worry about paying a crazy fee just for one beer. Especially worried about causing a scene over a few drinks but not wanting to get crazy ripped off.

Here is a list of the bars to be careful of in Soi Cowboy. There's also a few in the Patpong area in Pattaya (the ones promoting ping pong shows). I don't know all the bars but ones that overcharge are the rare exception, definitely not the norm. Don't let it sway you from visiting random bars you think look interesting. It will ruin your trip worrying about these little things.

These are the 7 Bars in Soi Cowboy everyone should avoid like Plague:

1. Rio.

2. Kiss.

3. Deja Vu.

4. Midnite.

5. Sahara.

6. Rawhide.

7. Spice Girls.

They are owned by an Iranian Guy (popularly called "Arab")

[Dinotrex]

Thanks Carp. I've been reading that some bars can rip you off in terms of how much they can charge per drink. Is this the case if I walk into any bar? Or do I just have to worry about buying multiple drinks for the girls? I'd hate to walk into a bar and worry about paying a crazy fee just for one beer. Especially worried about causing a scene over a few drinks but not wanting to get crazy ripped off.

There's a few variants around. At [CodeWord901] in Soi 8 you pick a girl and head upstairs directly and the business is done on a curtained off couch (a bit like a lap dance type scenario). At Dr. BJs they have more private facilities. However, if you feel like having a beer and a BJ in a crowded bar, head to Afterskool at Soi Cowboy. At the far end of the bar you can have business done right there. The bar is a bit higher so the action can't be seen from the entrance, but people will be able get a clear view if passing on the way to the toilet.