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  1. #46777

    Promoting a waitress

    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    I don't like mamasans being present when trying to make a deal with a girl (however I speak Thai so communication is not a problem). If mamasans are hanging around me I can wait till they go away.
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    I do know a waitress who works in Twisters (she is fat but no matter), so if I was there would seek my waitress's advice about which girls can be fun. She would know a lot. She gets tips / drinks from me, for being very helpful. She can so easily help me rule out "bad" girls.
    Hanging around is not exactly the same as giving advice, but I guess the same mamasan services are intended by someone in both these cases. So I guess you would promote (demote?) a waitress to mamasan? With the difference being that you know the waitress and that you approach her for asking advice (instead of her approaching you)?

    I totally get it and I would do the same. I don't like mamasans in general, because I don't like to be pushed into anything. But mamasan services are worth gold in my opinion. If one has developed a relationship with the mamasan and some kind of mutual trust, an understanding that you will treat each other with fairness. Of course, it is also necessary to have good girls around, otherwise the mamasan services are not helpful. But with a large number of good girls, mamasans are technically able to make every session a top experience.

  2. #46776
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    And with drinks, BF, ST hotel, and what the gal wants, your very close to 5 k.
    His session in Switzerland is probably 30 minutes. So in Thailand one ought to be getting a lot of extra time (over 30 minutes unless duped). If he took just one fuck, his session price would have ridden.

    Despite all this it is comparable with a bargirl ST. A bargirl needs to provide something special to be worth it. Escorts start to look an attractive option if only we could be sure they are as attractive as advertised (which is unlikely).

    I prefer to use ST Hotels only on quite days so as to get more than 1 hour in the room, still my ST Hotel use has largely dried up due to not living in Bangkok any more, and only passing through from time to time. If one does not need a pornstar, some of the Soi 4 girls become a good option. Starts to become like I now go to a bar to drink alcohol, talk (if possible), maybe eat (in the pub) and maybe watch some entertainment, but not so much looking for a fuck now.

    These days the need to see naked girls finally declines a bit. I can watch pretty Webcam girls gyrate and masturbate for free if don't mind 2 dimensional. No clue why others pay money. I don't need to control what the girl does. I am sure this is another factor adding to decline of business in the gogos. Being in a room full of naked girls in Germany or Switzerland still has its appeal (once in a while), although only a small percentage are really pretty. Have goto regulars there too, to avoid getting duds.

    I like watching naked girls a lot if they have a good body and a good face as well, preferably all natural. With an ordinary face, or weak body, I lose interest quite fast, so lose interest in Crazy House quite fast these days.

  3. #46775

    Be Prepared.

    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    At Twister's (Nana Plaza, upper floor) I took a girl for 1000 barfine + 3000 for the girl + drinks + a tip the mamasan kept (stole) from me of her own accord. This is over 4000 without short time room. Short time room was 350, + 50 for a bicycle tyre condom (my bad not bringing my condom). The girl had no lube and was dry as concrete. I'm sure they would have sold me a fingernail amount of lube for 100 baht though. In Globe soft drinks would be free as well as the short time rooms, plus there would be in-house food and girls would have their own lube. So all in all a Nana Plaza go-go is now at Globe level in terms of cost.
    I think some of these problems are avoidable, if you are not too drunk. Not sure how mamasan stole a tip. 1000 is a round number (no change). You should not be paying the girl's 3 k in advance. Best to pay BF separately to the drinks. I usually hand the BF direct to the girl and she can go seek a mamasan. I don't like mamasans being present when trying to make a deal with a girl (however I speak Thai so communication is not a problem). If mamasans are hanging around me I can wait till they go away.

    Last time a mamasan was hanging around while I was trying to make a deal with a girl, it ended up badly, at RB4. Mamasan tried to make me pay in advance. No go. Later turned out the girl refuses to take her pants off and fuck due to her period. Was clear she was trying to get to my cock first maybe so she could attempt a BJ and demand payment. I also refused to take my pants off given she would not. Later I saw her black stained pad in panties.

    You can get lube at the 7 Eleven store or pharmacy window opposite Nana Plaza (if it is still there. Perhaps not). I usually carry my lube (from another country), however will buy when needed. Absolutely essential (even if BBFS). ST Hotels will have very small packs of lube. Worst case you should buy 2 of those. You can also but better condoms at the 7 Eleven. Okamoto 003, or larger size Durex Comfort for example.

    Twisters is an Iffy bar. I have had on very good girl from there and also a dud. See how lovey dovey and keen she is during the drinks. If at all stand-offish or in a hurry, forget it. If she is not willing to leave the confines of Nana Plaza, that is an automatic fail, unless she has a very valid reason like not being a Thai citizen. I do know a waitress who works in Twisters (she is fat but no matter), so if I was there would seek my waitress's advice about which girls can be fun. She would know a lot. She gets tips / drinks from me, for being very helpful. She can so easily help me rule out "bad" girls.

    If you are well prepared with the essentials, you might have a good time just possibly and the high cost will hurt less. If its a dud girl as well, the a lot of money wasted. I mainly do repeat girls to cut down my failures to a minimum.

    Don't recall now if I fucked any Nana Plaza girls this year. There was the RB4 non fuck. Maybe one or two others, likely duds if I can't remember them now. In Cowboy maybe 4 girls done, with 1 being a regular.

  4. #46774
    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    At Twister's (Nana Plaza, upper floor) I took a girl for 1000 barfine + 3000 for the girl + drinks + a tip the mamasan kept (stole) from me of her own accord. This is over 4000 without short time room. Short time room was 350, + 50 for a bicycle tyre condom (my bad not bringing my condom). The girl had no lube and was dry as concrete. I'm sure they would have sold me a fingernail amount of lube for 100 baht though. In Globe soft drinks would be free as well as the short time rooms, plus there would be in-house food and girls would have their own lube. So all in all a Nana Plaza go-go is now at Globe level in terms of cost.
    Prices have become obscene. And for your 4500 plus, for the most part you're getting a rush job where the gal can't wait to get back to the bar for another go. I can think of a lot better ways to spend 150 USD. Still think much over 50 USD is a lot for a st lay. For a porn star stunner that does everything, spends a full two hours with you, and tries to get you to pop as many times as she can, is seductive and skilled, 150 usd would be acceptable.
    Fewer and fewer western dudes in the bars. That trend will continue.

  5. #46773
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    The "People Nearby" feature is not available on Line in Thailand. That's why you don't see it in the menu here.
    Well, that explains it LOL Must be my mistake, I must have misread it, seeing posts in the Vietnam forum or so. My bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Warning, kids, don't try this at home. Proceed with caution.
    But just now, when searching the Thai forum for posts about Line, I did come across this post of yourself: Dating site movie buddy surprise'. Now besides the tricky part of story, this does qualify as a very good time for me, if not one of the best. Great experience!

  6. #46772
    Quote Originally Posted by Lefeu  [View Original Post]
    I am afraid you're wrong or my math is messed up.

    I was in Globe, Zurich this past September, and if I recall correctly I paid 90 CHF to enter and 140 CHF per session. I had 2 sessions that day, hence my total cost was 185 CHF per session. That's over 5 K baths, a far cry from 1,500 bahts.
    At Twister's (Nana Plaza, upper floor) I took a girl for 1000 barfine + 3000 for the girl + drinks + a tip the mamasan kept (stole) from me of her own accord. This is over 4000 without short time room. Short time room was 350, + 50 for a bicycle tyre condom (my bad not bringing my condom). The girl had no lube and was dry as concrete. I'm sure they would have sold me a fingernail amount of lube for 100 baht though. In Globe soft drinks would be free as well as the short time rooms, plus there would be in-house food and girls would have their own lube. So all in all a Nana Plaza go-go is now at Globe level in terms of cost.

  7. #46771
    Quote Originally Posted by Lefeu  [View Original Post]
    I am afraid you're wrong or my math is messed up.

    I was in Globe, Zurich this past September, and if I recall correctly I paid 90 CHF to enter and 140 CHF per session. I had 2 sessions that day, hence my total cost was 185 CHF per session. That's over 5 K baths, a far cry from 1,500 bahts.
    The 1500 price is for the street girls (that looks as good as girls in go gos). Then he moved on to talk about go gos but did not mention price before making the price comparison

  8. #46770
    Quote Originally Posted by Lefeu  [View Original Post]
    I am afraid you're wrong or my math is messed up.

    I was in Globe, Zurich this past September, and if I recall correctly I paid 90 CHF to enter and 140 CHF per session. I had 2 sessions that day, hence my total cost was 185 CHF per session. That's over 5 K baths, a far cry from 1,500 bahts.
    And with drinks, BF, ST hotel, and what the gal wants, your very close to 5 k.

  9. #46769
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomasb  [View Original Post]
    ...
    Also, he said that the girl quoted $2 k baht in Thermae Club but told him it was $3 k baht in the room. This appears highly dubious. Is this now the going price for short term at Thermae?

    It's up to us to negotiate harder or it will, as someone else noted, in another thread be Zurich prices if it not already is.
    As I recall, he described that Thermae girl as a "stunner". I would say the chances of a better looking than most Thermae girl actually quoting 2,000 baht as an opening number in a negotiation these days is very low, perhaps only if it is her very first day in Bangkok from an outlying province and her first hour in Thermae.

    3,000 baht as the opening quote for all but the older, chubbier or more plain looking girls in the place is far more likely and it's been that way for at least a year or two. Yes, many will quickly drop to 2,500 baht if the customer does nothing more than hesitate a nanosecond to accept the quote or appears to be taking a step away from the girl and the negotiation. And I believe negotiating to 2,000 baht is still possible with some of the better looking girls in Thermae if some conditions are right for it; the time of night, day of the month, customer competition, your level of game, presentability, etc.

    So, as far as the "going rate" is concerned, I might not be so quick to say 3,000 baht is the new going rate in Thermae. But it is certainly a common starting point for the better looking girls there, imo and in my experience.

  10. #46768
    Quote Originally Posted by BestTimeEver  [View Original Post]
    After arriving in BKK, I first wanted to try out Line and ThaiFriendly. A bit disappointed in Line so far, but have to be fair also, it is still early.

    After installing Line with my brand new Thai phone number, I set up a new account. After that I have only been looking for the 'People Nearby' function, which I could not find. It is supposed to be there, but my Line app looks different from any screenshot online. Where some Line apps have a menu option 'More' at the bottom of the screen (behind which the Nearby function should be located), this Line app has the option 'Wallet' which is something different entirely. And yes, I have updated the pp to the most recent version. Any ideas?
    ....
    The "People Nearby" feature is not available on Line in Thailand. That's why you don't see it in the menu here.

  11. #46767

    Disagree

    At Hormone.

    I went to Thermae about 5 times. I don't like it very much but they like me quite a bit. When I showed interest in what I considered the top beauty she flushed and was proud of my interest. I for one was not interested in the perceived service level that I would get.

    At Lefeu.

    In Tilac for example you may have to pay 2000 baht barfine and at least 3000 short time. You have to treat her a few drinks. That will lift you way above the 5000 baht. In Globe you get food and quite some drinks for free. So why add it to the price for the girl each and every time and forget about the drinks in Thailand. Next to that, in a first session with a girl in Thailand she will try to limit the time to 20 minutes. In Globe she cannot do that. But I do think that Globe is too expensive and overrated.

  12. #46766

    Not quite!

    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    ...
    Quite a few stunners in the go-gos. Short time price on a par with FKK Globe in Zurich though.
    I am afraid you're wrong or my math is messed up.

    I was in Globe, Zurich this past September, and if I recall correctly I paid 90 CHF to enter and 140 CHF per session. I had 2 sessions that day, hence my total cost was 185 CHF per session. That's over 5 K baths, a far cry from 1,500 bahts.

  13. #46765

    Post 46752

    Noticed this review especially because the punter paid up front after the girl requested it. I usually end the session immediately when that happens because as most us know that almost guarantees a mediocre to bad session. However, in this case, our punter seemed to get his money's worth. That usually is not the case. Also, he said that the girl quoted $2 k baht in Thermae Club but told him it was $3 k baht in the room. This appears highly dubious. Is this now the going price for short term at Thermae?

    It's up to us to negotiate harder or it will, as someone else noted, in another thread be Zurich prices if it not already is.

  14. #46764

    Nana + Beer Garten soi 7

    First night in town and eager, but also very tired from the travel. So I decided to take it slow, building up energy for the days to cum. I wanted to take a look at Nana without barfining any girl (just scouting for future purposes) and I wanted to have a beer at the Beer Garten in soi 7.

    Before entering nana, I cruised soi 4 a bit. A lot of ugly and / or old girls, also in the beer bars IMHO. There were a few pretty girls, but their silicones were just over the top. If well proportioned I personally don't mind sillies, but this was too much. A pitty, because their faces and bodies looked good.

    Going into Nana, I walked around the various floors and peeked into the bars. This was at 8 pm, so even though still early I thought there would be at least some action. But unfortunately there were almost no girls dancing. In only a few bars there was some action, including nude titties, but not good enough for me to enter.

    So on my way to Beer Garten, where I had some moderate success on previous trips. Got a beer and looked around. Many older girls, but a few not older ones too. There was a small group of girls laughing and being enthousiastic. I wanted to sit next to one of these girls, but when I approached her I saw she was older than I thought. Her friend's face was way better up close, so I sat with her. We just had a chat and soon enough she began to seduce me. Well, she was really good at it, so she got me. Kisses with tongue and sexy moves and looks, all good!

    Soon I bought her and myself another beer, at 115 a piece. She asked me for beer for her friends too, but I said no. That would not have been justified, as there was little interaction with the friends. That was no problem, she apologized for asking. After our beer we went for a ST hotel, the Oyo in soi 7/1 (one alley further away from nana, compared to Beer Garten). Oyo (at 350 baht) was ok-ish but not so clean.

    Her service was quite good, total GFE (even though we fucked hard at the end). Shower together and in the bedroom she was all over me. Extensive cat bath, full-on DFK but not a long BBBJ as I was hoping for. Very enthousiastic performer, who busted my nuts and made them feel sore from a big explosion. She had a 6-ish body under her clothes. Just not stunning, though not fat or ugly either. Face for me the best, very sexy.

    I paid her 2500. Way to much, I know. But I felt she earned it and we had good chemistry going on. Got her Line details, but not sure whether I will repeat. Body not good enough, so will be looking for something better. If I repeat, it will be for the same price at my own hotel but then for a longer time. All to be agreed up-front via Line.

  15. #46763

    Line + TF

    After arriving in BKK, I first wanted to try out Line and ThaiFriendly. A bit disappointed in Line so far, but have to be fair also, it is still early.

    After installing Line with my brand new Thai phone number, I set up a new account. After that I have only been looking for the 'People Nearby' function, which I could not find. It is supposed to be there, but my Line app looks different from any screenshot online. Where some Line apps have a menu option 'More' at the bottom of the screen (behind which the Nearby function should be located), this Line app has the option 'Wallet' which is something different entirely. And yes, I have updated the pp to the most recent version. Any ideas?

    For ThaiFriendly, I did the same. With my Thai phone number I created an account, uploaded a picture and liked some ladies. A bunch are ugly and not many seem to be into p4 p (stating this explicitly in their profile). But interesting contacts start to come in now, so will probably give it a shot sometime soon.

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