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04-05-22 15:18 #50802
Posts: 5454Originally Posted by InTheClouds [View Original Post]
During normal times I think the agency got paid about 1,500 baht per girl per night. I don't know about today or how much the girl got from that fee.
I would think any decent looking and behaving girl, a freelancer really, who wants to hang out at a bar and help them sell LDs on commission only would be welcome to do it any night she wants to show up. Why would she sign on with an agency that will pay her nothing and will only charge her 700-1000 baht for not showing up?
I might open such an agency myself. Just sign right here, honey.
I suspect she left out something in her explanation.
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04-05-22 10:41 #50801
Posts: 74Bkk scene
Reached Bkk day before yesterday, the Nana plaza scene is pretty dead. Hired a freelancer from TF, tured out to be fat chick with horribly smelling pussy. Could not bear for more than 5 minutes, paid the money as promised and send her away. Booked another called cindy, which turned out to be a quite decent one - 8/10. Overall burnt 4 K baht (2+2). Hope to pick up some decent chicks from go go bars tonight.
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04-05-22 08:39 #50800
Posts: 12Agency girls
Originally Posted by Bunky [View Original Post]
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04-05-22 08:25 #50799
Posts: 3682Originally Posted by AxelHeyst [View Original Post]
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04-05-22 05:41 #50798
Posts: 90Originally Posted by PrimusThai [View Original Post]
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04-04-22 22:03 #50797
Posts: 516No Incentive for "Agency Girls" to do More than Look Good and Hustle Drinks
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
We see the agency girls at the bars, so we know their appearance fee at those places is high enough to get them to show up. The question then becomes: Do they have an incentive to earn more, and if so in what way? Bar management, of course, wants the girls to entice guys into stopping. At a minimum, those guys will buy drinks for themselves, plus management hopes the agency girls will sell high-profit lady drinks. So even though she doesn't work for the bar, I'm confident bar managers don't tolerate slacking. Almost certainly they lean on her to get men into the bar and to sell them drinks. Might there be a quota like there was for the girls who worked directly for the club under the old go-go system?
I suspect the agency girls are comfortable making their appearance fee, plus a little extra drink commission. Especially when all they have to do is show up, look cute and alternate between shouting "WELCOME" or asking every guy they see "you buy me one drink?" Will the bar owners be comfortable paying higher overhead (to the agency) and getting less revenue (from barfines)? At this juncture, they probably are because that's better than they were doing during the depths of COVID. But after the Naughty Boys return in force (and they will) will this business model survive? The Arab's success with his chain of clip joints teaches us there are at least some guys stupid enough to pay sky high drink prices just to sit next to a girl they think is pretty (either knowing she's not available for more, or having been tricked into thinking she'll go with him). As many of you have noted, that's almost killed Soi Cowboy. It remains to be seen whether Nana Plaza will return to the good old days or follow suit.
Thanks to Mr. Tooms for adding this additional information.
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04-04-22 10:04 #50796
Posts: 5454The 2 Tier Barfine System I Liked And Would Welcome Again
Originally Posted by AxelHeyst [View Original Post]
I liked it because it was a built-in Incentive Program for the girls to be better and generate no complaints or issues in whatever way necessary in order to qualify for "Special Girl" status, be brought over to the better customers, be more likely to close a deal and be barfined on the strength of their "special" status and all that.
The girls on the bar's higher barfine "Special Girl" list wanted to stay on it and the girls not on it wanted to get on it.
Therefore, I had no hesitation to question why the girl sitting next to me and lobbying to be barfined was so "special" as to justify a higher barfine. I would simply ask the girl, "Does that mean we can boom boom without a condom"?
I can only say my success rate in getting a big smile and an unambiguous upfront Yes reply from some of the best lookers in those bars was sky high. Like more than 80%. Interestingly, the fee the girl was willing to accept was no different than for the regular girls; 2,000 - 2,500 baht for ST. Only the barfine was set higher. The extra 500 baht for the quality and improvement in the service level all agreed to upfront before paying the barfine was always well worth it to me.
I would welcome a return of that particular 2 Tier Barfine system anytime.
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04-04-22 02:45 #50795
Posts: 5454Originally Posted by Bunky [View Original Post]
But there are some "no barfine" girls who are more scantily clad inside the bars who might be from an agency or who just decided they aren't going to go with customers or are resistant to because they live with a sponsor, boyfriend, husband, etc. Maybe they are formerly agency girls who needed to expand their options lately. Perhaps they would be up for what you mentioned. But I still have not seen much of anything more than bold lap dancing going on in the booths, crotch rubbing outside the clothing and so on in Nana Plaza. I could have just missed it.
Of course, it isn't as though all of these "no barfine" girls working inside or outside the bars will not have sex for money. My experience is some will if the timing, conditions and money is right.
Some of the differences you'd be dealing with: An agency girl does not really work for the bar, of course. She works for an agency and will get a fee for the night regardless if customers show up, sit, drink or anything. And she will get a commission for LDs.
But she has no relationship to a bar owner, mamasan or allegiance to anyone there, has not borrowed money or gotten an advance in emergency money from anyone there.
A mamasan or co-worker who might serve as helpful matchmaker between girls who fuck and fuck for real, owe them money, know they really need money and all that and reliable customers who are willing to pay for it are not part of their routine.
And that means there is also no incentive, some might call it "preasure", peer, co-worker, money owed or otherwise, to go with the men they want to return over and over again to the bar and to do a good job for them in the bed.
The agency girl can still be a FL if she is up for it, if it does not interfere with her often unpredictable bar appearance assignment. But for the most part she is paid to show up at the bar on time, stay until closing and is not inclined to either compete with girls in that bar who are looking to make money for having sex or to pick up the slack for them on that count when those girls are busy to keep the P4P money flowing through that bar and to the other girls in them.
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04-04-22 01:26 #50794
Posts: 715Originally Posted by Bunky [View Original Post]
Pattaya was where Agency Go Go's began. The original model was to pay more to get better looking girls into the Go Go, to draw more customers in, and sell more drinks. Along with this new strategy came the 2 tier barfine; xx before midnight and x after midnight. The result was pretty good although some punters hated it. Regardless what the naysayers thought, Agency Go Go's became some of the hottest bars on Walking Street, Pattaya and they made money. Well managed regular Pattaya Go Go's did well too. So customers had the best of both worlds and could go where they wanted, where they saw the most value.
IMHO 2018-2019 Pattaya's Go Go action was better than BKK's. Interestingly, the best Go Go in BKK circa 2018-2019, IMHO, was Kings Castle 1 which had adopted the Pattaya Agency model. Again, I know some guys hated it, but damn, they had the best looking girls! As well as the steepest barfines.
So let's see how things develop in BKK after the Government drops the covid test upon arrival and all the other covid mandates and regulations and things really are post covid. I do not think the look-drink, no barfine model will be adopted by 95% of the Go Go's. But I could be wrong. In the meantime, anybody who spends their money in one of these no barfine bars is a ******* in my opinion. Ha Ha. Just kidding. It is your money, do what you like. HeHaw.
Anyway, I ain't buying no ticket to BKK until I know what the post covid scene is like. I think we will know the score within a month or two of the country's real reopening. I would love to return in September, but I will just have to see wait and see. Meanwhile I am heading to SP in 10 days. It's my third trip down South in 12 months. I can't wait!
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04-03-22 23:12 #50793
Posts: 516Nana Plaza Girls Who Don't Barfine. How Much "Mileage" in the Club?
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
FOLLOW UP QUESTION: How much "mileage" can we expect from the "drinks only" girls in the Nana Plaza bars? Are they just going to sit there and look cute? Or are they inclined to let their hands wander? For that matter, how do they react if the guy lets HIS hands wander? I ask because the Nana Plaza bars that formerly operated as go-gos feature indoor seating in a large space that has plenty of dark corners. Seems to me a girl could persuade a guy to keep buying drinks for both of them by getting a little physical -- much like the way things are done in Pattaya on Soi Six (in the handful of closed front bars) and in the so-called "gentlemen's clubs" that specialize in daytime raunch for the sex-pats. Just my opinion, but I'd be willing to buy several 200-baht lady drinks in exchange for some hands-on fun. I think that's value for money. But if she's just going to sit there, that feels like a ripoff or a hustle to me.
I concur that if the club owners and the girls had their way the look-drink-barfine business model would give way to the look-drink model. The use of pretty girls who hustle drinks by suggesting that more is available is a time-honored scam that operates worldwide. In my opinion, even pre-virus Soi Cowboy was dominated by that nonsense (thanks to "the Arab's" string of crooked clubs). I'd hate to see Nana Plaza go the same way.
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04-03-22 20:29 #50792
Posts: 7Bangkok
Went to Hillary1 and met a server there name Ammy. She says she doesn't go home with customers but she will if you buy her enough drinks. She was ok in the bed. BJ was bad LOL but she was really pretty. She let me CIP.
I went to kokoro massage for a Nuru / soap massage with lemon. 10/10 experience. BBBJ and we had sex with condom. She gave a great Thai massage after I finished. 3900 baht for 1 hour.
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04-03-22 18:19 #50791
Posts: 12Honey Bee Massage
Originally Posted by Thomas9 [View Original Post]
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04-03-22 11:45 #50790
Posts: 2The PIMP
Hello guys,
I'm a newbie here.
I'm planning a trip to Bangkok in June. Just want to ask has anyone try The PIMP club? From what I know, its like a strip club with private room for VIP guests. But no barfine, ST, LT. A whole different experience from Gogo bars. Make me curious and want to try. Appreciate if anyone can share some review about this club.
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04-03-22 06:57 #50789
Posts: 367Originally Posted by GigiBuffon [View Original Post]
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04-03-22 00:25 #50788
Posts: 5454Originally Posted by YesINeedIt [View Original Post]
But guys should beware that Nana Plaza bars at this time are hiring a lot of agency girls to stand around to look good or sit for drinks but do not barfine. Particularly on Friday and Saturday nights. Ask first if barfining a girl is your goal rather than buying several 200 baht Ladydrinks just to chat. Although I doubt there would have been an agency girl presence where you met the girl at Sexy Night. They can be sprinkled around the outdoor beer bars in the Plaza and inside some of the other go-go bars.
There is also more of that "tequila and coke" two Ladydrinks at once scam going on in Nana Plaza these days. During normal times the Coyote / Agency Girl / Ladydrink Only Hustler and "tequila and coke" scams were more prevalent on Soi Cowboy and rarely employed in Nana Plaza. Not so right now.
There are also a lot of "LD and chat only" girls who don't barfine sitting at those portable cart bars lined up on Soi 7 outside the closed regular bars you mentioned.
Here is my reminder that these venues are testing the waters on what will be the "new normal" going forward. If we are compliant and go along with the No Sex With Customers Coyote / Agency Girl / Ladydrink Only Hustler bit, the "tequila and coke" 2 LD order at once scam, the covered everything including BJs in BJ Bars unless you specifically negotiate otherwise bit, the stubbornly held to 3,000 baht for a middling level of service Short Time bit and so on instead of turning on our heals and walking away without spending one baht at the first hint of it, those things will become more and more ingrained as the "new normal" as far as the girls, mamasans and bar owners are concerned.