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  1. #51546

    Looking for a different demographic. At least I think I am

    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    I have tried it in BKK. It's not a good city to use it. You can simply check the daily new profiles to compare to the location you already know to get a feel. Depending on location, seeking may not be what you think it is. In many parts of the world, it has a lot of scammers and prostitutes.
    I really do appreciate the feedback, and I realized I may not have correctly posed my question. Hiring a lady for sex (professionals) is as easy as walking into a Gogo or arranging an escort online. I am trying to find something a little different with the understanding that the result may not be what I desire.

    I am looking for a lady or two that while is open to the idea of being compensated for sex, prefers not to think of herself as selling sex. Maybe she is working in an office or has her own little shop and needs / wants to supplement that income. I thought that maybe something like Seeking Arrangement might be a place they would make themselves available under the pretense of being a "Sugar baby". I am also sure that there are a lot of "pros" that see this as a not so much effort way to get clients as well. It is fairly easy to determine when a lady is a professional as opposed to part time. Flaking, ghosting is part of the package for certain. I can't thing of another method to try and meet this demographic, but maybe they do put themselves on Tinder, WeChat, etc. Truth is the worst thing that happens is it is a total bust and I pick up the phone and place an order for an escort or go get a massage with extra service. I just thought it would be fun to explore something of a different opportunithy.

  2. #51545

    The issue is not related to "Nationality" I assure you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendelo  [View Original Post]
    Fantastic post. Thanks for taking the time to write.

    This is what bugs me about Thai girls. Their short term thinking and not realizing the value of what they have or could have.
    I've either experienced or witnessed similar or the same type issues in a number of countries around the world. South America, China, Philippines, it doesn't seem to matter. I do believe that for many of them, they assume the fact they cute / sexy and have a vagina they are willing to allow the gentleman in question to use it for their own pleasure, (albeit for a price), plus an occasional blow job and playing with their boobs will be enough for most men to forgive their bad behavior. It comes as a shock when they find out otherwise. As they gain life experience, the ability to find another willing man diminishes, which is another hard lesson learned too late many times. Just my opinion.

  3. #51544
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    In my limited experience, girls in the escort/guide business are older, sloppier bodies, and generally less beautiful than their advertising implies. They also flat out lie regarding age, height, and weight. The girl you mention looks too chunky for my taste and there is a good chance she will be less attractive in person. Suggest you arrange a short Line video call before you meet. These girls can be very different in reality than they seem from their webpages, a video call will help you assess that issue.

    Slightly pre-COVID I spent a day with one on my non-P4P girlfriends in BKK and 3 of her girlfriends. A month later I learned that the least attractive girl in the bunch was an escort/guide. I then searched the internet and found her webpage, I couldn't believe she was the same girl that was in our group for the day, she was a true hottie on her misleading webpage.

    Your concept of touring BKK and sex in a single day is quite ambitious. Bangkok is huge and traffic is difficult. If/when you find a suitable guide/escort I would suggest a minimum of two days if you expect to see anything in Bangkok.
    Thank you very much for the advice. I made another research and found a review from 2010 that the girl was 36 yo. Well, that concludes it.

    Can anyone suggest a good looking girl, who can show me around for 2 days (as HorseTrader suggested) as well as be a good sex partner during that time?

    I'm traveling through this forum's posts for some time, but since covid slammed the industry for a long period, things have changed and I can't tell if the older reports are relevant today.

  4. #51543

    Wood (BJ) Bar

    In my current tours of the BJ bars here I recently visited Wood BJ bar (old Dr. BJ / Chrome bar) on Suk 7/1. Of the BJ bars I've visited so far, I'd say this one has the largest number of doable staff, which I on the evening in question counted to two doable staff out of 5-6.

    I of course forgot to get the name of my chosen chrome polisher, but she was friendly, did a pretty good job and was easy on the eyes, with rather big knockers and I'd estimate the age to be around 30.

    Price was 800 baht. Walked past the other regular bars on my way back and forth, and think I saw one doable girl, but admittedly I just glanced in passing.

  5. #51542
    Quote Originally Posted by SarhaOtzar  [View Original Post]
    The photos in her website look good, but I can't know if they are new or old, same with the age she states in her website.

    A slim girl around 20-30 yo is what I prefer but it's not a must. I'm very open minded.
    In my limited experience, girls in the escort/guide business are older, sloppier bodies, and generally less beautiful than their advertising implies. They also flat out lie regarding age, height, and weight. The girl you mention looks too chunky for my taste and there is a good chance she will be less attractive in person. Suggest you arrange a short Line video call before you meet. These girls can be very different in reality than they seem from their webpages, a video call will help you assess that issue.

    Slightly pre-COVID I spent a day with one on my non-P4P girlfriends in BKK and 3 of her girlfriends. A month later I learned that the least attractive girl in the bunch was an escort/guide. I then searched the internet and found her webpage, I couldn't believe she was the same girl that was in our group for the day, she was a true hottie on her misleading webpage.

    Your concept of touring BKK and sex in a single day is quite ambitious. Bangkok is huge and traffic is difficult. If/when you find a suitable guide/escort I would suggest a minimum of two days if you expect to see anything in Bangkok.

  6. #51541
    Quote Originally Posted by ThaiGoodTimes  [View Original Post]
    You forgot to factor in the money they can make from advertising gigs, online chats, online videos, OnlyFans, DarkFans, Chaturbate, etc.
    My guess that most girls Ancillary income is three fiddy baht.

    I've seen Thai girls on Chaturbate. Threes and four on the scale of beauty. 3 followers.

    Attractive Chinese have followers in the 100's.

    Generally. If a girl isn't making it in a live setting it's hard for me to believe they cashing in online.

    Could be wrong on this one.

  7. #51540
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    My experiences with this do not involve taking a girl out of the bar exactly. I never required them to stop working at a bar but in each of three cases the girl expressed fatigue and disinterest in working in a bar anymore. I told them they could take any job they wanted, or none at all, look for something better, take your time and only take something you like. After all, my ongoing financial support would cover costs plus more and allow for their freedom to choose. And, yes, perhaps that was a mistake. But the thing is I know expecting a Thai girl to just sit at home and look at the walls until I meet her is practically demanding she cheat and sneak out for fun anyway. And I wasn't offering to have them live with me where I could monitor their behavior almost 24/7. I didn't want that. No, this was going to be an "arrangement", not a life partner relationship..
    Fantastic post. Thanks for taking the time to write.

    This is what bugs me about Thai girls. Their short term thinking and not realizing the value of what they have or could have.

  8. #51539

    SunnyDe independent

    Hey everyone,

    Arriving BKK mid September, I figured I might want to order an escort for a full day to show me around, as well as FS. I have no idea on what to expect from the weather at that time, so having my first day with a professional escort like Sunny (just search her name in Google if you don't know her) might make things easier for me.

    I am looking for an escort to travel with me for one day and show me places to visit in BKK, take pictures of me from my own camera, show me good places to eat, give me insights on how to plan the rest of my trip, be a good companion and an experienced sex partner.

    From what I've seen in her website, Sunny looks exactly like that. The only problem is her age, which is around 40 or more (my age is around 30).

    The photos in her website look good, but I can't know if they are new or old, same with the age she states in her website.

    A slim girl around 20-30 yo is what I prefer but it's not a must. I'm very open minded.

    So please, can someone confirm about her? And even better, if you can suggest someone else for this?

  9. #51538
    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas9  [View Original Post]
    Day 19.

    Mitu / SOAP (http://mitubangkok.com/) - 90 minute 4-hand nuru / 7600.
    Hey Thomas, cheers bro for such detailed reports. It looks like you had an epic few weeks a few months back. I haven't been back to Thailand since COVID ruined our lives, but am looking forward to the next chance I get. Hopefully it will be soon so I can follow the path you've blazed.

  10. #51537
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    Damn, you are really a long time guy, I get tired of them as soon as I spurt.

    If they suck real good, and know some out of the way place, OK, Ill see her again. But the former usually disqualifies them and I have been to most of the places anyway.
    90% of the ladies come to my place for 3 hours and leave. I do some overnighters, and maybe go with a handful for trips.

  11. #51536

    Four times so far

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxBkk  [View Original Post]
    It would be an interesting discussion to see how much people on this board pay to take their girlfriend out of the bar...
    My experiences with this do not involve taking a girl out of the bar exactly. I never required them to stop working at a bar but in each of three cases the girl expressed fatigue and disinterest in working in a bar anymore. I told them they could take any job they wanted, or none at all, look for something better, take your time and only take something you like. After all, my ongoing financial support would cover costs plus more and allow for their freedom to choose. And, yes, perhaps that was a mistake. But the thing is I know expecting a Thai girl to just sit at home and look at the walls until I meet her is practically demanding she cheat and sneak out for fun anyway. And I wasn't offering to have them live with me where I could monitor their behavior almost 24/7. I didn't want that. No, this was going to be an "arrangement", not a life partner relationship.

    My sexual needs are rather conventional; DFK, shaved pussy, DATY, BBBJ as foreplay or to CIM completion, bonus points for Cum Swallow but not a deal killer with the right girl, BBFSCIP, of course. And I am fine with a single session and pop per day at most. I can easily skip days and feel fine if not better about it.

    So over the past almost 10 years I have met 4 ladies with whom I felt enough ongoing and repeatable session interest to make this "arrangement" offer. I would say none of these would qualify as top tier beauties or bar Super Stars. Keep that in mind as you assess the outcome. It's just that there was something about each that touched my dick, balls and heart enough to know I would enjoy seeing them many times into the future. In every case, I had already been with them several times to my satisfaction and knew I could, wanted, to see them at least 2-3 times per week every week for a while anyway and not feel I was missing anything by not hunting and bagging new girls every week. They had seemed quite eager and happy to meet me as well as to accept the offer:

    1st girl, about 8 years ago. A Patpong BJ Bar girl. Mid 20's. Her bar was going to close soon. I offered to give her 30,000 baht per month (8 years ago mind you). The deal was supposed to be she would come stay for LT 2-3 per week with plenty of "with pay" allowances for a week or two every few months when she would go to her province to spend time with her kid.

    As a show of good faith, I paid the first month in advance. Uh-huh. That lasted about 10 days, then she faded away and disappeared. There was no second month. I have seen her off and on since and she doesn't know why she fucked that up so much.

    2nd girl, about 2 years ago during the Covid closures. I met a, get this, mid 30's, slightly overweight street cart bar girl who, yep, still touched those body parts mentioned above in the right way enough to add that to the mix with the fact that since Covid was beginning to rage around the world this might be a good time to set up an ongoing program with one partner for a while. Good for her. Good for me. And there were barely any customers to be had anyway. I liked her. This would be great for her. The deal was 10,000 baht per week, stay LT 3 times per week starting at a reasonable hour of the evening, say starting at 11 pm or Midnight depending on what other job she had or even the same job. Pay After, at the end of each week. I got smarter, right?

    She lasted 1 week. Then she showed up shit-faced drunk and surly at 3 am or 4 am twice that second week and the sex was somewhere between horrible and non existent. I gave her a very generous 5,000 for that second week and said bye. I have seen her off and on at a bar here or there since then, too, but never took her again. I am certain she thinks I cheated her out of some pay for that second week and still owe her 5,000 baht.

    3rd girl was a bargirl I met in a small beer bar about a year prior to the Covid closures. 19 when I met her and began to session with her every week, sometimes she came over after the bar closed (early, about 12 midnight) at major discount LT rates considering her age and looks, imo. I was smitten, to say the least. But it wasn't until after the bars began to reopen and she returned from a long stay in her province that she began to express an interest in getting out of the bargirl business. So I made this offer; 40,000 per month (plus the usual expected extra expenses that always come along so it was going to be at least 50 K per month anyway), work any job she found and liked, take your time, or no job at all, up to her. Just come stay LT with me 2-3 times per week including the same "with pay" occasional week off to visit her province allowances I gave the previous two girls.

    I really liked her and had known her much more than the previous two girls and, frankly, felt she had always been more than fair with me money-wise. Pay Before vs Pay After didn't seem to matter in terms of ongoing success with these deals, so I gave her that first 40 K upfront at a time when she and her family supposedly really needed it in a lump sum. Besides, of any of the bargirls I have met and been with, this one was the one I would be very open to developing into a more serious relationship. In which case, a greater level of trust was in order. I needed to test this theory for at least a month.

    She didn't last a full week. Flaked out and ghosted me for most of the rest of the month and then she more-or-less disappeared from the local bar scene. Well, her story was she had to go to her province to take care of sick grandma. But more likely she got a much bigger and better offer that she took instead.

    4th girl was kind of on a whim and does not fully fit a weekly or monthly arrangement as above. But it was supposed to be an ongoing repeat program. Again, it was a 23 year old Freelancer I had known and sessioned with a few times pre Covid. She suddenly reappeared on my Line after an absence from the scene for about a year and we sessioned again a couple of times. It was great. She began to pester me to let her stay 2-3 nights in a row per week 2-3 times per month. She has a regular job in her province and those 2-3 nights in a row deals would help justify the 6-7 hour bus ride she'd have to take to Bangkok. I agreed, was a happy to agree actually, and the deal was 2,500 for each overnight LT stay, Pay After. And, yes, with the usual "can you send me 300 to top off" whatever bits here and there.

    That lasted one week so far. She stayed 3 nights in a row once a few weeks ago. Since then it has been one postponed trip to Bangkok after another. But the "can you send me" stuff continued until if hit about 1,500 baht total and then I stopped it. Only Pay After from here on, sweetheart, love you. She was supposed to come for 3 nights in a row again two Sundays ago, but couldn't. Then the following Monday, but couldn't. Then the following Tuesday, etc etc etc. Maybe she'll show up again someday. Don't know. Don't really care. As long as it is Pay After, no big deal.

  12. #51535
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    I couldn't handle the same lady for a month. I get tired of them by 3 days....
    Damn, you are really a long time guy, I get tired of them as soon as I spurt.

    If they suck real good, and know some out of the way place, OK, Ill see her again. But the former usually disqualifies them and I have been to most of the places anyway.

  13. #51534

    One night in BKK

    First time since Covid. I'm into the gogo bars. Nana all the gogo bars open but not the same number of girls and not really so many lookers. Soi Cowboy some clubs closed down like Sharks which I used like. Baccara open but far fewer girls. I hadn't really met any girl or girls I thought wow and it was getting near closing. Luckily found 2 friendly girls in Cowboys and took them. Not great lookers but their effort and friendliness made up for it so overall v happy with my one night.

  14. #51533
    Quote Originally Posted by MaxBkk  [View Original Post]
    It would be an interesting discussion to see how much people on this board pay to take their girlfriend out of the bar.

    I know an older guy who has a smoking hot 19 year old and pays her just 20 k. But she is free to make extra on the side, which surprising she doesn't do much. I know because I have asked her several times - 555.

    I also know another guy that gives his girl 50 k, and another 100 k. Both hotties in early twenties. Both met during covid so the girls were making a lot less. In non covid times I don't know if they would accept 50 k or even 100 k. Maybe they would maybe they would not.

    The issue when covid goes is that the girls will start to earn more money and hence want more to be taken out of the bar. I know of girls that make 150 k, 200 k and even 400 k in a gogo. Think 2 x ST + 1 LT = 12 k per night, times 30 = 360 k plus the odd tip or sponsor money sent in. Super hotties can really earn however they can only do it for a very short time.

    That they get tired and would take less to have a steady partner that treats them decently. By decently, I mean is just a half decent dude and not some abusive drunk.

    Anyone else like to contribute to how much they or any friends give to their GF that was taken out of the bar?
    You forgot to factor in the money they can make from advertising gigs, online chats, online videos, OnlyFans, DarkFans, Chaturbate, etc.

  15. #51532
    Quote Originally Posted by AggieDad1  [View Original Post]
    No woman has sex every day of the month. No woman is worth 100 K baht a month (of course wives can cost more than this.) If you do take a woman as a long term companion you are saving her a lot of money. You will be feeding her and supplying her needs. So the benefit to her is more than just the money she gets from you. But why would you do this? If they were a great tour guide and you planned on traveling around Thailand then I could see the advantage of hiring a companion short term. But I have tried this in the past and most Asian girls make bad tour guides and you are pulling your hair out after a couple of days. Go to a BJ bar and get drained and then rethink this when your mind is right.
    So so so many wrong statements and assumptions there.

    I'll start and finish with your first one.

    Many, Many, MANY older (as in mid 20's plus) working women have sex every day of the month, month after month, after month!

    They have medication they can take that totally stops menstruation and lets them work every day.

    Yes it has side effects for them if used long term, IE difficulty getting pregnant and carrying to full term, but they know that, and they use it.

    It is especially less of a concern if they already have children, or they have decided to never have one.

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