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  1. #47096
    Quote Originally Posted by CIMguy  [View Original Post]
    Logic would say you are right, but there are lots of circumstances where it could still be quite bad. Lots of people visit the red light areas as tourists just to see the spectacle, particularly in Amsterdam. A man walking around by himself looks quite different than a group of tourists. The girls also try to hold hands and walk together when leaving the bar, which is an obvious giveaway. Visiting the RLD is very different than taking a girl home in most people's eyes. Plus, one person could see me, tell another person, and then it just spreads quickly without the initial person who saw me having to be known to the larger group. Besides, even if they are there for the same reason I am, it's still embarrassing.
    Just own it. Really. If you are in a job that mongering might hamper, do something about one or the other. Always a possiblilty of being seen.

    I've never been shy or embarrassed about engaging in p4 p. If people have an issue with it, that's their problem, not mine.

  2. #47095
    You can stay at a hotel like Ruamchit and pop down to Thermae without anyone seeing you. Bring girls back to your room without anyone seeing you. If someone saw you all you have to say is that is the hotel you are staying at. In Pattaya you can go to Soi Full Love Inn and hit the 6 or 7 BJ bars there. Kinnaree Place would also be an option. No one is ever going to see you there unless they are in the bars themselves and certainly no one is videotaping there. Lots of areas you can hobby if you don't want to be seen.

    To add to your paranoia don't forget the bars that post all their customers photos freely without permission on Facebook. Photos of me are all over the internet because the photographer always wants to snap candid photos of the hot girls I'm sitting with.

  3. #47094
    Quote Originally Posted by CIMguy  [View Original Post]
    Logic would say you are right, but there are lots of circumstances where it could still be quite bad. Lots of people visit the red light areas as tourists just to see the spectacle, particularly in Amsterdam. A man walking around by himself looks quite different than a group of tourists. The girls also try to hold hands and walk together when leaving the bar, which is an obvious giveaway. Visiting the RLD is very different than taking a girl home in most people's eyes. Plus, one person could see me, tell another person, and then it just spreads quickly without the initial person who saw me having to be known to the larger group. Besides, even if they are there for the same reason I am, it's still embarrassing.
    There is no guarantee people around you can't find out. And don't forget about those YouTube channels who make videos on walking street ans soi cowboy where we can see and sometimes hear punters clearly. So, if you think, that parents of your students or your colleagues finding out about your hobby will change your life drastically, I would suggest you avoid visiting RLDs. BTW you can visit massage shops, but anyone can see you getting out of the shop. I hope you are getting my point.

    P.S.: I also think you are overthinking it.

  4. #47093
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveShibuyaGirls  [View Original Post]
    Hi All.

    In general, have you found Thai girls in gogo bars etc to be open to video recording?

    How do you ask that in Thai? Or will they understand if you ask in English?
    Most girls actually believe they will some day leave the scene, and get married and have kids etc, and live happily ever after.

    Of course this is far from the truth, a girl makes a motza from 18-25 (maybe 30) and it halves after that, until about 35, then it disappears.

    The only job open then is a mistress to a wealthy thai guy who does not want his buddies to see her upended on some farangs dick.

    So most will not go for it, that said I know and regularly attend to a girl who did make a movie, but she has never mentioned it.

    The "actor" was much younger and bigger than me, maybe she sparing my feelings.

    Filipinas on the other hand are all systems go as far I can gather from experience.

  5. #47092
    Quote Originally Posted by CIMguy  [View Original Post]
    So I have a question. I am a secondary school teacher, so doing this hobby has some risk in terms of running into kid's parents or other teachers during nights out. . There are definitely schools that would fire you for it.

    Any thoughts / ideas?
    If you frequent Soi Cowboy there will be no local thai parents, or otherwise, there, so relax. Any farangs you see there are there for the exact same reason as you, and this applies very much also to NEP.

    Not suggesting you co opt the maths teacher as a wing man, but you should not be too worried about being seen.

  6. #47091

    Video recording

    Hi All.

    In general, have you found Thai girls in gogo bars etc to be open to video recording?

    How do you ask that in Thai? Or will they understand if you ask in English?

  7. #47090

    Finding girls from internet porn sites?

    Hi All.

    There are many Thai-themed internet porn sites.

    I think most of the girls on these sites must be hookers.

    There is a girl from one site that I would pay quite a bit for but am wondering how to find her.

  8. #47089

    Safety of BBBJ

    Does anyone have any insight into whether washing after BBBJ might reduce the risk of contracting anything? Like the wash up in Wood Bar before and after comes to mind.

  9. #47088

    Still not good

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargano19  [View Original Post]
    But is it a problem, if you and they were both there. They can't accuse you of anything given they were also there, just like you.

    I feel walking in red light area is much safer than meeting escort in hotel where your co-workers are also staying. In places like soi cowboy or npe, atleast they were also having fun like you. Unless they were just "strolling", and saw you in some weird situation like kissing a bar girl etc.
    Logic would say you are right, but there are lots of circumstances where it could still be quite bad. Lots of people visit the red light areas as tourists just to see the spectacle, particularly in Amsterdam. A man walking around by himself looks quite different than a group of tourists. The girls also try to hold hands and walk together when leaving the bar, which is an obvious giveaway. Visiting the RLD is very different than taking a girl home in most people's eyes. Plus, one person could see me, tell another person, and then it just spreads quickly without the initial person who saw me having to be known to the larger group. Besides, even if they are there for the same reason I am, it's still embarrassing.

  10. #47087
    Quote Originally Posted by CIMguy  [View Original Post]
    So I have a question. I am a secondary school teacher, so doing this hobby has some risk in terms of running into kid's parents or other teachers during nights out. When I was in high school, I found women in their mid 20's to be the most attractive age group. I still find that age to be the most attractive. But that doesn't keep people from thinking that you must be some kind of pervert who likes young girls if you are a teacher and enjoy mongering. It's a stupid way of thinking, but that's where many people's minds go. I have zero interest in 18 year old girls, let alone younger ones and, as I said, I didn't even find those girls attractive when I was that age.

    So my question is how to better navigate this environment while not interacting with other people too much. I went to Crazy House early the other day, so that helps because the numbers are down, but I still have to walk down that street and it makes me extremely nervous. Is there a way to see the girls at Crazy House or other establishments without going to the bar itself? In Europe, the FKK's have back doors. I know escorts are an option, but sometimes I am on trips with coworkers and I can't have girls coming to the hotel. For example, one teacher was caught bringing a girl to his hotel in China (actually, the hotel provided the service and the girl just came) and he was subjected to a horrible whisper campaign about his morality, etc. I would really like to avoid that because that's the kind of thing that could follow you to your next school and maybe even affect your ability to get hired. There are definitely schools that would fire you for it.

    Any thoughts / ideas?
    But is it a problem, if you and they were both there. They can't accuse you of anything given they were also there, just like you.

    I feel walking in red light area is much safer than meeting escort in hotel where your co-workers are also staying. In places like soi cowboy or npe, atleast they were also having fun like you. Unless they were just "strolling", and saw you in some weird situation like kissing a bar girl etc.

  11. #47086
    Quote Originally Posted by CIMguy  [View Original Post]
    So I have a question. I am a secondary school teacher, so doing this hobby has some risk in terms of running into kid's parents or other teachers during nights out. When I was in high school, I found women in their mid 20's to be the most attractive age group. I still find that age to be the most attractive. But that doesn't keep people from thinking that you must be some kind of pervert who likes young girls if you are a teacher and enjoy mongering. It's a stupid way of thinking, but that's where many people's minds go. I have zero interest in 18 year old girls, let alone younger ones and, as I said, I didn't even find those girls attractive when I was that age.

    So my question is how to better navigate this environment while not interacting with other people too much. I went to Crazy House early the other day, so that helps because the numbers are down, but I still have to walk down that street and it makes me extremely nervous. Is there a way to see the girls at Crazy House or other establishments without going to the bar itself? In Europe, the FKK's have back doors. I know escorts are an option, but sometimes I am on trips with coworkers and I can't have girls coming to the hotel. For example, one teacher was caught bringing a girl to his hotel in China (actually, the hotel provided the service and the girl just came) and he was subjected to a horrible whisper campaign about his morality, etc. I would really like to avoid that because that's the kind of thing that could follow you to your next school and maybe even affect your ability to get hired.
    UK channel 4 did a doco some years back filming in Pattaya and many tourists were on camera talking to women of small stature and were branded as pedos by the doco so beware of film crews.

    All false claims.

  12. #47085

    Indian problem?

    Thank you so much for the response brother EihTooms.

    I apologize for not being clear. But here is my follow up response and queries.

    So. Key take out from your response. For Vietnamese, "Russian", Arab and Uzbek near soi4 is better.

    You have mentioned that you "did not find" amazing gogo girls with Indian customers. Can you help me point to super hot Thai Indian friendly locations?

    Yes. GFE does vary. But I am looking for passionate DFK, BBBJ, CIM with suction and hardcore DT also.

    I want to experience the same with Russian, Viet, Arab, Uzbek and obviously Thai.

    Now, that I mentioned (hope I am clear), Where can I find super hot Thai and other race (other than soi4) that are comfortable with the green than the color or race. It's just a bummer that being Indian plays a little bit role on the bkk experience.

    I will be staying between NANA and SOI for three nights. I want to experience Boldboy GFE with all races.

    Your info / pointers are appreciated brother.

    Other brothers, since I am coming soon, your thoughts are also appreciated.

    Can't wait to explore BKK. Can't wait to hear from yall.

    Happy New year and happy safe mongering.

    Lots of love.

    Boldboy.

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Have to say in my many observations of the girls in the area that the Vietnamese girls, who some claim are among the better looking freelancers on Sukhumvit Soi 4 or anywhere on Bangkok's streets, are not the least bit shy or standoffish about proactively trying to score an Indian customer. You know how some of us say "Thermae girls prefer Japanese or Korean customers"? Well, I think we could say the same thing about those Vietnamese girls on Soi 4 with regard to Indian (and Japanese/Korean) customers. Not all, but most of the girls anyway.

    I know you asked about "problems in gogo bars." I have not observed many good looking go-go dancers walking out of bars with Indian men either in Bangkok or Pattaya. So the behavior of the better looking (Vietnamese) freelancers on Soi 4, Bangkok, in front of Hillary 1 Bar stands out. I believe you'll find some "Russians", Arabs and Uzbek ladies in that same general area too but I can't say I have observed the same tendency toward Indian customers with them as I have the Vietnamese girls.

    As far as the "amazing girlfriend level experience" you are looking for or even a moderately notable GFE, that's hard to say since our idea of what constitutes a GFE at all can vary wildly. For example, for some punters a "GFE" merely means the girl smiled when she met him and smiled again when she left with his money, maybe engaged a bit of DFK, if that, before engaging in pretty much standard covered everything. For me, no Girlfriend I have ever Experienced for even one night has demanded a condom. And Girlfriends don't spit, they swallow. Huge difference in the definition of "GFE", for sure..

  13. #47084
    Quote Originally Posted by BoldBoy88  [View Original Post]
    Happy New year brothers.

    So, I am Indian. I am visiting BKK by myself. Will I have problems in gogo bars?

    See I am not filthy rich. But I can afford 4 k for amazing girlfriend level experience And I can do it 2 times a day 2 days and I don't have a problem.

    I am only concerned about the reputation Indians got in BKK. Note I am travelling by myself.

    Any comments feedback on this. I am well groomed, nice smelling dude. Only problem with me is I am picky when it comes to girl or the service.

    If someone can shed light on non Thais catch places. Russians Arabs or Uzbeks who can provide GFE that'd be great.

    My reason, when in Thailand try Thai. When you have more than Thai. Why not.

    Lots of love.

    Boldboy.
    Have to say in my many observations of the girls in the area that the Vietnamese girls, who some claim are among the better looking freelancers on Sukhumvit Soi 4 or anywhere on Bangkok's streets, are not the least bit shy or standoffish about proactively trying to score an Indian customer. You know how some of us say "Thermae girls prefer Japanese or Korean customers"? Well, I think we could say the same thing about those Vietnamese girls on Soi 4 with regard to Indian (and Japanese/Korean) customers. Not all, but most of the girls anyway.

    I know you asked about "problems in gogo bars." I have not observed many good looking go-go dancers walking out of bars with Indian men either in Bangkok or Pattaya. So the behavior of the better looking (Vietnamese) freelancers on Soi 4, Bangkok, in front of Hillary 1 Bar stands out. I believe you'll find some "Russians", Arabs and Uzbek ladies in that same general area too but I can't say I have observed the same tendency toward Indian customers with them as I have the Vietnamese girls.

    As far as the "amazing girlfriend level experience" you are looking for or even a moderately notable GFE, that's hard to say since our idea of what constitutes a GFE at all can vary wildly. For example, for some punters a "GFE" merely means the girl smiled when she met him and smiled again when she left with his money, maybe engaged a bit of DFK, if that, before engaging in pretty much standard covered everything. For me, no Girlfriend I have ever Experienced for even one night has demanded a condom. And Girlfriends don't spit, they swallow. Huge difference in the definition of "GFE", for sure.

    Therefore, nobody can really predict you'll get any kind of Real or True GFE, much less an "amazing level" of one, with any particular girl anywhere for any amount of money since we are relatively vague about what the term means. But I can at least tell you getting the kind of Real or True Girlfriend Experience that earns my definition of the term above is going be a very heavy lift with those Vietnamese girls. Even if you just settle for an ordinary CIM finish to a BBBJ with no expectations of a Swallow included. Then again, I can only say it is a very heavy lift for ME to get it with those girls. YMMV.

  14. #47083

    Confidentiality in mongering

    So I have a question. I am a secondary school teacher, so doing this hobby has some risk in terms of running into kid's parents or other teachers during nights out. When I was in high school, I found women in their mid 20's to be the most attractive age group. I still find that age to be the most attractive. But that doesn't keep people from thinking that you must be some kind of pervert who likes young girls if you are a teacher and enjoy mongering. It's a stupid way of thinking, but that's where many people's minds go. I have zero interest in 18 year old girls, let alone younger ones and, as I said, I didn't even find those girls attractive when I was that age.

    So my question is how to better navigate this environment while not interacting with other people too much. I went to Crazy House early the other day, so that helps because the numbers are down, but I still have to walk down that street and it makes me extremely nervous. Is there a way to see the girls at Crazy House or other establishments without going to the bar itself? In Europe, the FKK's have back doors. I know escorts are an option, but sometimes I am on trips with coworkers and I can't have girls coming to the hotel. For example, one teacher was caught bringing a girl to his hotel in China (actually, the hotel provided the service and the girl just came) and he was subjected to a horrible whisper campaign about his morality, etc. I would really like to avoid that because that's the kind of thing that could follow you to your next school and maybe even affect your ability to get hired. There are definitely schools that would fire you for it.

    Any thoughts / ideas?

  15. #47082

    Crazy House threesome

    For my third day in Bangkok, I decided to go to Crazy House. For Days 1 and 2, check out the non-Tulip massage thread. After the massage places, I wanted to find some slender spinner for the night. Decided to go to Crazy House because I know you can see the girls fully nude before placing a bar fine.

    I got there at 8:45 pm, which I think is a great time to get there. It's not crowded yet and most of the girls are still there. I ordered a beer and gave the massaman (SP?) a nice tip because I really think it helps. It was only $3, but that is a great tip for them. She then stood next to me and pointed out girls who give good service. I already had my eye on one girl with a really great small and slender body and the massaman confirmed that she is a good choice. The girl came over and we talked and were having a nice opening conversation. Got her a drink. I found myself getting turned on with her rubbing up against me, so I knew she was the pick. While we were talking I also noticed another girl on stage with a petite figure and pretty face, so I asked the first girl (named Pom) about the girl on stage. She thought I wanted to switch girls, but I asked her if she liked her and would enjoy her joining us. She said yes and went over t the stage and pulled the second girl down to join us. The second girl came over and was instantly affectionate in a sweet, not clumsy or overbearing, way, so I bar fined them both ST on the spot. I got everyone a round of drinks, including the massaman, and then waited while they got changed.

    My hotel was not nearby, so we went to a short-time hotel around the corner. They were really giggly and joking around and seemed to be having fun, including me in the jokes. I didn't catch the 2nd girl's name, unfortunately, but I found myself more attracted to her than the first girl in terms of the sex part of the night. Both were great overall. We took a shower first and then they laid me down on the bed and Pom started giving BBBJ while girl 2 draped herself over me and started DFK. They switched after 5 minutes and then we just rolled around kissing and messing around for a while. Girl #2 then hopped on me cowgirl while Pom licked and kissed my chest, neck, and lips. Then we switched to missionary and then she laid flat on her stomach while I took her from behind. This seemed to really get her going and she was making a lot of noise while Pom just kissed and stroked us both. When I stopped and pulled out, she looked back at me with the perfect look of a mix of exhaustion and satisfaction. Then I took Pom cowgirl and doggie for another 15 minutes while girl 2 DFK. I asked if either would let me CIM or COF and girl #2 said she would do COF for additional 600. I took her up on that offer and finished on her smiling face. We then cleaned up and laid down for a while and chatted.

    Really great experience. It helped that I went in with the attitude that I was just going to spend some money and not worry about that end of it. I didn't spend hardly anything the first 4 days in town, so I had the money to spare. It also helped that I got exactly what I was hoping to get. I don't know about you guys, but I almost always know very early on if the girl will be worth it. I only get in trouble when I don't get the chance to talk to the girl before I choose her. I knew Pom would give good service without the massaman telling me, though she helped make the choice to call Pom over to the table.

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