Bangkok Reports

[MeatMan]

Some of us take that bitchy demeanor as a sure and early sign that this one will be a bad bet for a good time in the room. And, in my experience, I have yet to be proven wrong on that early impression.

That's why many of us move on as soon as possible from a girl with a bitchy demeanor on the first encounter. It isn't due to a lack of confidence and determination. It is due to our experience telling us this girl very likely has zero value to offer or to sell except for her good looks and it would be a waste of our time, effort and money to go forward expecting anything remotely like a True GFE/Real Sex in the room.

100% On-Point!. Look, we ALL want that Thai woman whos drop-dead gorgeous to give us that mind-blowing romp in the bedroom we all desire. It's not usually the case. You'll just end up getting a cold-ass starfish (who's going to rush you to get your rocks off) and ending up 1000-2000 lighter in your pocket and a world of disappointment. If there's no chemistry between both parties, why pursue it?. Sadly, some guys let the little head do the talking. I've been with average looking Thai women who could mop the fucking floor against a so-called Thai beauty. Why push the narrative if it doesn't work?. If their body language indicates she's not interested in your services, move on!. There are a plethora of freelancers, and bargirls to choose from. Pick of the litter, fellas!. Think with your bigger head!.

MeatMan

[EihTooms]

Re. Thermae. Am I the only person here who will not shy away from a Thermae (or any P4P} girl just because she doesn't look at me or smile at me? From my experience even if they look bitchy while you cruise around with all the other guys they start smiling once you start talking to them.

It's like going to a non-P4P civilian nightclub. Do you guys only go for the girls who smile at you or do you go talk to the prettiest girls?

I think you are missing the point of why experienced punters demanding a certain minimum level of service for the money are put off and move on from a girl with a bitchy demeanor on first encounter.

I don't shy away from the ones who do not smile at me. If I am attracted to their look, I still smile and approach them with a greeting and brief exchange, even in Thai. On occasion, they will respond enough to at least tell me how long and how much. And on every one of those occasions where I have "gone with flow" and taken them based almost entirely on their looks, it was a dreary waste of my time and money. Sadly, their good looks alone is not nearly enough to produce something close to Value For Money when it comes to P4P sex. For me.

Some of us take that bitchy demeanor as a sure and early sign that this one will be a bad bet for a good time in the room. And, in my experience, I have yet to be proven wrong on that early impression.

That's why many of us move on as quickly as possible from a girl with a bitchy demeanor on first encounter. It isn't due to a lack of confidence and determination. It is due to our experience telling us this girl very likely has zero value to offer or to sell except for her good looks and it would be a waste of our time, effort and money to go forward expecting anything remotely like a True GFE/Real Sex in the room.

[GettingFedUp]

People can be tested without kits, but there is such a thing as test kits according to CDC.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...t/testing.html

You seem to have overlooked the last part which states "FDA issued the EUA on February 4, 2020. IRR began distribution of the test kits to states, but shortly thereafter performance issues were identified related to a problem in the manufacturing of one of the reagents which led to laboratories not being able to verify the test performance. CDC is remanufacturing the reagents with more robust quality control measures. New tests will be distributed once this issue has been addressed."

There WERE test kits briefly, but they were withdrawn because they weren't up to scratch. As of CDC's last update (25-Feb) and my post of 29-Feb, no test kits!

[Allover]

Actually you're doing the scare mongering job yourself. There's no "testing kit".

Actually I'm not scaring anybody. I would not cancel a trip due to the virus itself if I had a trip planned. I might be concerned about flights being cancelled due to lack of passengers but the virus itself wouldn't hold me back. I like visiting Thailand when it's not busy. If someone else chooses to postpone a trip I understand that choice.

People can be tested without kits, but there is such a thing as test kits according to CDC.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...t/testing.html

[11Bravo]

Used to be such a fun place when I moved here 20 years ago. I was there 3 to 4 times a week for years. But the customer demographic changed and that ruined the place for me.

Agree. Was really a place that you had to see, earned its name of "Star Wars" bar. Still wasn't bad after it moved to the under-stairs location, but that started its decline. I liked the original, 2 room design. Like Annie's (RIP), another BKK casualty.

[Banana Boi]

I hate that place no matter how many times I pass by. The women in there are snotty and think their shit doesn't stink.

Re. Thermae. Am I the only person here who will not shy away from a Thermae (or any P4P} girl just because she doesn't look at me or smile at me? From my experience even if they look bitchy while you cruise around with all the other guys they start smiling once you start talking to them.

It's like going to a non-P4P civilian nightclub. Do you guys only go for the girls who smile at you or do you go talk to the prettiest girls?

Ha, I love this need to see if that strategy works next month when I am there. By then some reality should have set in.

Unfortunately, that young girl is likely to return to Isaan than become a hooker. She will either get a retail job there if she's hot or just stay home with family and eat and live for free. Imo it's wishful thinking but I hope I'm very wrong.

[Dupont88]

Get a grip please. Other good responses posted on here. As mentioned, this correction was long overdue. Even with the hit last week, I'm still up 15% for the last 12 months, and I'm an investment idiot. What's to complain about?

We saw the start of this with the Trump trade taxes, and this showed us where the weakness is. Companies have been working the short time returns so hard that they have moved to just in time deliveries from suppliers, and are sourcing huge percentages of critical parts from single suppliers in countries that are at risk for all kinds of issues (aka China). So when the shit hit the fan, guess what happens next in the Rube Goldberg machine that is the stock market? Companies have lost sight of long term health (you know, even a stool needs three legs to be stable) and stability, which is borne out by all the short term microsecond computer trading, which has exacerbated the market volatility.

You want a real eye opener? The current economy, at least in the US, is driven by the consumers. Now look at the wealth / income distribution. It won't be too long before the majority of the population is unable to afford the basic necessities. Ford had the right idea with his new automobile. He paid his workers many times the going labor rate so that they could all afford to buy the product they were making for him.

Try moderna. CLX. MMM. GILD.

[MichaelSamuel]

If this continues to worsen I would guess a lot of sweet young thing mall sales clerks will find themselves out of a job with no other visible options for support except the heretofore unthinkable, a job they would probably be fresh and brand new to, ready to learn and earn with the right attitude.

Ha, I love this need to see if that strategy works next month when I am there. By then some reality should have set in.

[Goatscrot]

I hate that place no matter how many times I pass by. The women in there are snotty and think their shit doesn't stink. A few months ago, I was there with a guy from Sri Lanka just looking over the place. When I walked past a few to use the bathroom, most of them had their noses so high in the air, you'd think it was up god's (or buddha's) asshole!. Fuck them!. (not in the literal sense).

Used to be such a fun place when I moved here 20 years ago. I was there 3 to 4 times a week for years. But the customer demographic changed and that ruined the place for me.

[MeatMan]

If it comes to it, those will be the ones I might need to assist finacially before I bother trying to flip the hardened, lazy hookers of Thermae or other waste of time established P4P venues to my way of financially rewarding commerce. Fuck no, man. I'll step right past and above the Thermae and Rainbow go-go bar level girls.

I hate that place no matter how many times I pass by. The women in there are snotty and think their shit doesn't stink. A few months ago, I was there with a guy from Sri Lanka just looking over the place. When I walked past a few to use the bathroom, most of them had their noses so high in the air, you'd think it was up god's (or buddha's) asshole!. Fuck them!. (not in the literal sense).

[11Bravo]

Sunday, mid-afternoon, headed out to MBK for some shopping. As now expected, crowds down, not as much as at Chatuchak, but still, very easy to move around, NOT ram-jam full. Finished there, and spur of the moment, since BTS Silom line right outside, decided to hop on over to Patpong and SOL. Hadn't been to SOL yet, and it was about time.

Late afternoon, Sunday, get to SOL, 3 girls outside, 2 tubs and a rail thin girl. NONE appealing; first strike. OK, so World it is. Find the stairs, walk up, World door open. Lights on inside, no A/C. Step inside. 1 girl plus bartender. Bartender recognizes me, says that Kartoon (or something like that) has the day off, but there is Kartoon's co-worker... Like SOL, not doable. 2nd strike.

Now, it was hot out, sun shining BRIGHT, and humid. I can only explain my next move was due to delirium. Walk over to the other Soi, to Rose bar. Gatekeeper outside, door ajar. Reaching a moment of sanity, I walk past. Then the delirium hits again: since I'm here, might as well check it out. Walk up the stairs to Grimness. 2 girls inside, one an instant reject, the other... has a rack... Sit down at the bar, ask how much for a Singha. "150". "No thank you", get up to walk out (which would have been the smart move right there). "OK, for you, discount, 100 baht. " I sit back down, obviously still in the grip of the delirium. "OK". Beer brought. I check out Miss Rack... The rack meets the minimum requirements, but as my gaze drifts up... I readily believe her when she says she has a daughter going to university in the US. Hell, it was probably grad school... You do the math. Finished the Singha, no need to linger and chit-chat, walked down the stairs, kept asking myself, "what WERE you thinking?" 3rd strike, should have just gone back to the dugout.

Considered Sukumvit, Soi 8's BJ bars, K-whatever, and the one around the corner, but... Had been there last year and not impressed. The shortest distance would be to ex-Som's Heaven (I can never pronounce, let alone spell, the new name); it's close to the Metro's Asok station. Convenient. But then, thinking... Been there last year and not impressed with the line-up nor the service... Mother thumb and her 4 daughters looking like the best bet...

But this is Bangkok, no need of solo enjoyment. Fine, I was in Patpong, Miss Rail it would be. Walked back to SOL. Just as I walked up, the clouds parted, with a SMALL ray of sunshine... A 4th girl was just arriving, dinner bag in hand. Decent rack, bit chunky, OK face. Anything below the waistline is not all that visible when she's on her knees giving her oil pump-jack impression... Gave her the nod; dinner for both of us would have to wait.

Inside, asked the price of a Singha. "All drinks same price, 100 baht. " You have to admire for SOL's straightforwardness; like a lady dowager, she has her principles... Beer came and into the back room we went.

Now, over the past couple of DECADES, the SOP has been the same: drop trou, sit down, lady cleans you with a wet wipe, and begins the extraction procedure. But this is the time of the COVid virus. Girl asks me to move to sink (more like a waddle with trou down), hang my junk over the edge so she can wash. "No have virus here; you see, I wash mouth too" after she'd used the Listerine. I'm laughing inside, but, afterwards, OK by me. I mean, how would you like to be filling out the transmission report for the health officials with a "well, this girl was sucking my dick and I guess I passed on the virus to her, dick to mouth. "...

Back to the bench (does this make me a back-bencher?) She asks if she should go topless (dumb question, experienced girls understand the value of visual stimulation), so that's a yes. Decent rack, oranges, nice handful. She begins a rapid up / down sucking, picking up the pace... I guess she's thinking the faster she pumps, the quicker she'll strike oil. Said she'd been there for 3 months (didn't recognize the names I knew from last year) and the inexperience shows. I provide some pointers as to what I like and the session improves. This is the SOL I know, a beer and a BJ... Now, if it only had the music of the World...

Just as I was finishing my beer, oil was struck. After a complete extraction, the usual SOL tissue grab and spit. Then directed back to the sink for both of us, me for a junk wash, her for another gargle. Paid the standard 700, plus 200 tip to the girl, a nice, round 1000 baht for beer + BJ.

WIR: Fa offered f / s, but if I wanted dinner, I'd eat elsewhere. But for a quick snack, Fa OK.

I wonder what has happened to SOL's staff. Previous years, there's always been 5,6 girls around at the same time, mid to late afternoon, at least a couple doable. Fa is doable for a BJ, but an order of magnitude less than last year's Mam. It really seems their staff is sparse, and getting close to the proverbial bottom of the barrel.

On my way home, what's the name of the tv advertisement, that has the tag line "I should have had... " popped into my head. In hindsight, I should have just gone to Suk's Soi 55, Sakura, for an hour's scrub, salt tapping, heat treatment, and tug. Yes, a tug less than a BJ, but that salt tapping... Nothing makes you feel cleaner. Have to be careful of my tunnel vision and start considering more alternative paths.

[EihTooms]

Damn its sad to read the reports about Bangkok, meanwhile I've been slamming the hotties here in Siem Reap. Guess I got out of BKK just in time.

The places that seem hit hardest by the plunge in tourists here so far are not the usual P4P venues. It's the shopping malls.

I am in Siam Paragon right now and you could shoot a canon ball down the halls and not hit anyone. If this continues to worsen I would guess a lot of sweet young thing mall sales clerks will find themselves out of a job with no other visible options for support except the heretofore unthinkable, a job they would probably be fresh and brand new to, ready to learn and earn with the right attitude.

If it comes to it, those will be the ones I might need to assist finacially before I bother trying to flip the hardened, lazy hookers of Thermae or other waste of time established P4P venues to my way of financially rewarding commerce. Fuck no, man. I'll step right past and above the Thermae and Rainbow go-go bar level girls.

Probably through the dating sites.

[EihTooms]

Haha ET, that's too bad. I sympathize with your plight. I, too was hoping that this virus scare would losen up a bit those good looking Thermae girls. Oh well.

I am currently in Medellin, Colombia, enjoying some Latina pussy. Luckily, not too many customers here from Japan / Korea to compete with.

Ha, well luckily this cold shoulder for Farang issue is confined to Thermae. No great loss overall since the 3-4 times I have walked out with girls among the top 5-10% better lookers in Thermae, they were not even remotely worth the money for me anyway. I know there are a couple of go-go bars in Bangkok where girls supposedly only go with Asians. But my experience is many of those girls did not get that memo and will go with a Farang, even an elderly one. And deliver a pretty good session.

[Franciscass]

I passed through Thermae twice last night, once at around 9:30pm and again around 2am. I am usually not out and about, dropping into Thermae and all that at 2am, so I don't know how it compares to . But at 9:30pm I went in there as pleasant, polite, smiling, happy, with as warm and welcoming a "sawadee krup" at the ready as I have ever had, looking pretty damn good for a somewhat elderly Farang I might say. And the cold shoulder from the better looking girls was every bit as bad as it has ever been. Very, very cold cold shoulder for this Farang.

While not a habitue of Thermae I pop in there so often and plonk myself down with a beer. I don't do the circuit but usually get some smiles from ladies in my immediate vicinity. So just a thought ET and absolutely making no judgement but is it possible that by now the word is out on your specific requirements re BBFS and CIP and few if any are willing to provide said service and hence the cold shoulder.

[Banana Boi]

My understanding from girls in Pattaya is that many will no longer go with Korean men so there is hope for elderly Farang, of course unless you look Iranian or Italian.