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  1. #38790

    The Demographic Battle is Over

    And the Western man has lost.

    In Cowboy last night for the first time in a couple of months. Sat outside one of the bars with some friends and observed the comings and goings. It's kind of over for the Western man in the BKK P4 P scene. Our ilk is dwarfed in numbers by Japanese, Koreans, Indians, and UEOs (people of unknown ethnic origin). Asian dudes are and will dictate the scene when it comes to performance and cost. The former and the latter will not be to most of our liking. And there is absolutely nothing we can do about. Life moves on. It was certainly a joy to be able to experience the end of the Golden Era here and in places like 'Nom Penh.

    Where to go? Well many of my stateside friends are keeping it in their hemisphere. Hitting Mexico for a short trip and Central and S America on longer trips. Places with unrest and poor economies are always good for the monger. I would imagine for those with stones Venezuela would be pretty good at the moment.

    For those of us who are settled here; well, we will have to settle for the current situation.

  2. #38789
    Quote Originally Posted by RedKilt  [View Original Post]
    Nice evidence-based rejoinder Goat.

    I agree with you, after having worked in both Hanoi and HCM City in support of the VN education sector for 6 months during 2014.

    I expect VN's performance will be even better in the PISA results that will be gathered in 2018. I was dumb-founded by the standard and quality of the system when I worked there, and they were so receptive to new and innovative ideas too. Their problem is to get more people into formal education. So far, participation levels are relatively poor.

    One of the Deputy-Directors in the Ministry told me their long-term goal was to be better in English proficiency than the Philippines by 2020, and so far English competencies are being phased-in across primary and secondary schools.
    My guess is they will be the dominant economy in SE Asia sooner than most folks think. They are moving forward. Contrary to what many of my fellow 'Mericans thin; central planning works. China and 'Nam would not be where they are now without it.

  3. #38788

    Ma at Lo. Li. Ta BJ bar

    I arrived last week and wanted a quick release after not having sex for quite a long time. I knew I would unload very quickly so I opted for a BJ bar instead of going in an oily or try an online girl as the BJ bar is also the cheapest option. Walked through soi 10 and had a look at the talent in Lolipop but saw only a LB and 2 ugly girls so I decided to go in soi 8 instead. I remembered a recent report from Bkkdog about Som's but didn't remember where it's located. I entered soi 8 and went straight to L. O. L. I. T. A. S and had planned to go to Kasalong if I saw nothing interesting there. But at the moment I arrived there was about 7 or 8 girls and one of them was standing and looked not bad at all so I entered directly and told her to come with me. All others were fat or old ones. Once we got up the stairs I realised that I would even want to bang her so I told her to go to the 2nd floor directly but she said she couldn't because she was on her period and I could change girl if I wanted (don't know if it was true or if she just didn't want that I bang her). Her name is Ma, she has a nice roundish face (not chubby), no crooked teeth, dark skinned, quite fit and sexy with her uniform. Once seated she started her job and did it pretty well. I was hard very quickly, I stopped her and told her to do it very slowly, that I would like it to last at least 10 min and then she can make me cum if she wants, I would tip her for that effort. She agreed and said in Thai ja tham dai yangai wa (how am I going to do that). She had some great techniques sometimes licking it sometimes putting it in her mouth. She also let me touch her body without saying anything (but not near pussy). But she lost patience pretty quickly and made me cum in 5 min. I would have tipped her 200 if had gone to the 10 min point but finally gave her 100 for the effort. By the way the BJ is now 850 baht. So now you know there is at least 1 girl that looks not bad and is pretty good at her job in that place.

  4. #38787
    Quote Originally Posted by BionicMan  [View Original Post]
    The deputy director is very optimistic.

    2020 is two years to go.

    How can they think to beat a country where English is nearly a second language fails to catch me.

    I am not commenting on the rest of the countries, but my general impression it takes at least one generation to improve their skills in any field.
    Most of the Filipinos who work for me speak ok but their grammar is very poor. Contrast this to educated Lao, Thai and Vietnamese who speak poorly, but whose grammar is very strong.

  5. #38786
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    Back to my typical night out in the neighborhood: if by 11 pm I have not found Miss Right in the several Patpong bars I like to frequent, King's Castle 1 & 2, Badabing, and Electric Blue; then it is time to head to Spasso. At 11 pm on a Thursday, Friday, or Saturday night Spasso is usually going strong with plenty of FL's and unfortunately an almost equal number of sausages. Yes, it is a sausage fest. I don't know where these guys come from, but they are always there. Additionally, it is roughly a 50/50 split between NE Asians and Westerner sausages and some of these guys are wearing fucking sportscoats. Unbelievable! Me, I am dressed up wearing a collared, short sleeve, polo shirt ie an informal golf shirt and fresh laundered jeans. That is me in dress up mode. LOL. In any case, despite the male customer turnout, there are plenty of girls to choose from and they ALL want to make your acquaintance. There is none of that Thermae bull crap going on here although these FL's are older than the Thermae crowd, but better dressed, better educated, and many holding their own nicely. I usually flirt with a couple of the prettier girls and if I like one I let the conversation eventually get around to what everybody came for. My night is usually all set after spending an hour in Spasso.
    I genuinely laughed at the comment about sportscoat LOL. I didn't think people got so dressed up. I was planning on only bringing polo type shirts or t-shirts. I still think they look nice enough / not cheap. Didn't think I would need to go any further than that to blend in.

  6. #38785
    Quote Originally Posted by HorneeFalang  [View Original Post]
    70,000 THB is outstanding money for Thailand. I am currently paying people to work in my field 300 THB a day (lunch and water supplied). Bending over planting rice in the heat and humidity and working the land for 8-9 Hours a Day,6 days a week. 7,200 THB a month, however this work is not ongoing. They are very happy for the work and the amount they get. Mongers on here banging on about how Thailand is a robust economy and you need 120,000 THB a month to live comfortably? Quite frankly Sirs you have your heads up your asses.
    I agree, the number of people earning 70 k a month or more you could probably count on an elephants trunk, especially outside of BKK.

  7. #38784
    Quote Originally Posted by MusicalToM  [View Original Post]
    This is a real offbeat question, but since I'm in sheer need of this couldn't stop myself asking.

    I've some audio messages (sent over messenger) in Lao which I need to get translated into English to understand them. I tried Google translator but there is no speech input option for Lao language.

    Is there somebody here who can help? May be somebody would be knowing the language. I would appreciate to any help!
    If you have any Isaan or Lao contacts on any of your video chat services, they could help. You could also use google translate to request the sender, if literate, to write the content down, then you plug into translation app.

  8. #38783
    This is a real offbeat question, but since I'm in sheer need of this couldn't stop myself asking.

    I've some audio messages (sent over messenger) in Lao which I need to get translated into English to understand them. I tried Google translator but there is no speech input option for Lao language.

    Is there somebody here who can help? May be somebody would be knowing the language. I would appreciate to any help!

  9. #38782
    Quote Originally Posted by RedKilt  [View Original Post]
    Nice evidence-based rejoinder Goat.

    I agree with you, after having worked in both Hanoi and HCM City in support of the VN education sector for 6 months during 2014.

    One of the Deputy-Directors in the Ministry told me their long-term goal was to be better in English proficiency than the Philippines by 2020, and so far English competencies are being phased-in across primary and secondary schools.
    The deputy director is very optimistic.

    2020 is two years to go.

    How can they think to beat a country where English is nearly a second language fails to catch me.

    I am not commenting on the rest of the countries, but my general impression it takes at least one generation to improve their skills in any field.

  10. #38781
    Quote Originally Posted by MrManGuy  [View Original Post]
    I agree with him and it gives me the shits guys are obsessed with 35 year old uglies because they're cheap. Last time I was in BKK there were some very fuckable bar girls and massage girls. In Pattaya. Nothing but uglies outside of the GoGos. But maaaaaaan were the gogos quality.
    I've found some great bodies outside the gogos. But I don't get the shits over your thing. Prepare for mainlining Imodium upon my return next year after reading my reports.

  11. #38780
    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    Next time you might want to try Bit Style: http://bitstylemassage.com.

    It just has uhm. A bit more style. Nice clean place, good looking girls (real 7's and 8's, unlike most BJ bars), good service.

    It's not really a BJ bar, you can get massage and FS there as well, but you can go there for just a BJ for 1300 Baht. It's all the way down on the price list.

    I have been there 3 or 4 times now and was never disappointed.
    I don't think any of them are attractive based on their pictures.

    Actually I kind of like Yuki.

  12. #38779
    Quote Originally Posted by WanderLuster  [View Original Post]
    Not sure who you are trying to impress, but this is just off them mark. What's with all the remarks about teeth? Maybe you're compulsive so that's why you can't appreciate BKK bars / message. Best if you stick with the 800 USD in USD that you mentioned. I also used to live in NYC and have the $$ to spend in BKK, but you're report is off the mark.
    I agree with him and it gives me the shits guys are obsessed with 35 year old uglies because they're cheap. Last time I was in BKK there were some very fuckable bar girls and massage girls. In Pattaya. Nothing but uglies outside of the GoGos. But maaaaaaan were the gogos quality.

  13. #38778
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Have a lot of friends that are teaching in VN now. Some for several years running. Schools are improving by leaps and bounds. And no BBC http://www.bbc.com/news/business-33047924 and OECD rankings. In fact, beating the US and OZ in test scores as well http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/will-vietnam-continue-to-beat-australia-in-education-20150720-gigaab.html.
    Nice evidence-based rejoinder Goat.

    I agree with you, after having worked in both Hanoi and HCM City in support of the VN education sector for 6 months during 2014.

    I expect VN's performance will be even better in the PISA results that will be gathered in 2018. I was dumb-founded by the standard and quality of the system when I worked there, and they were so receptive to new and innovative ideas too. Their problem is to get more people into formal education. So far, participation levels are relatively poor.

    One of the Deputy-Directors in the Ministry told me their long-term goal was to be better in English proficiency than the Philippines by 2020, and so far English competencies are being phased-in across primary and secondary schools.

  14. #38777

    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    Next time you might want to try Bit Style: http://bitstylemassage.com.

    It just has uhm. A bit more style. Nice clean place, good looking girls (real 7's and 8's, unlike most BJ bars), good service.

    It's not really a BJ bar, you can get massage and FS there as well, but you can go there for just a BJ for 1300 Baht. It's all the way down on the price list.

    I have been there 3 or 4 times now and was never disappointed.
    Appreciate the info.

  15. #38776
    Quote Originally Posted by UsaInEurope  [View Original Post]
    A bit about me. Many guys seem to just want the cheapest sex possible. I'm wanting more of an upscale place, an experience, something to remember. I don't really have a budget and think that even the most expensive thing in Bangkok isn't really expensive (vs. A $800/ hour NYC escort).
    SNIP SNIP SNIP
    I wouldn't go back. No atmosphere, not a great "experience." But to get a great BJ for under $20 (albeit in a dirty / unsanitary looking place) I guess it's ok. I tipped her another $85 as my bill was $915 and I gave her the change.
    Next time you might want to try Bit Style: http://bitstylemassage.com.

    It just has uhm. A bit more style. Nice clean place, good looking girls (real 7's and 8's, unlike most BJ bars), good service.

    It's not really a BJ bar, you can get massage and FS there as well, but you can go there for just a BJ for 1300 Baht. It's all the way down on the price list.

    I have been there 3 or 4 times now and was never disappointed.

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