Bangkok Reports

[Sunlover2]

Cherry-picking case studies is not useful. Rather, you should look at the scientific consensus which includes all case studies. HCQ has shown no benefit as a prophylactic. And, HCQ was often touted as a cure.

Your HCQ threshold seems to be high efficacy. Mine is mitigation, and credible studies have shown some net positive effect. I know multiple doctors who were taking HCQ as a preventative measure before the vaccines came along. You go with what you got.

SL.

[Franciscass]

You left out President Trump as he was also a big believer. He even once said he took this every day as a prophylaxis for Covid.

Sorry can't remember but was that before or after suggesting injecting disinfectant as a cure.

[Sharka]

Cherry-picking case studies is not useful. Rather, you should look at the scientific consensus which includes all case studies. HCQ has shown no benefit as a prophylactic. And, HCQ was often touted as a cure.

The two countries that were pushing HCQ were Brazil and India. That didn't work out so well for them.

You left out President Trump as he was also a big believer. He even once said he took this every day as a prophylaxis for Covid.

[Explorer8939]

Rush died last month. Time to find a new boogeyman.

HCQ alone was never advanced as a treatment. Rather (like the use case for malaria) it is used as a prophylactic measure.

A cocktail of HCQ + AMZ + Az has shown some success for CoVid patients with milder cases: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...0248975v1.full.

And it has been determined that HCQ does not help CoVid patients with an advanced (hospitalized) case: https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news...lized-covid-19.

SL.

Cherry-picking case studies is not useful. Rather, you should look at the scientific consensus which includes all case studies. HCQ has shown no benefit as a prophylactic. And, HCQ was often touted as a cure.

The two countries that were pushing HCQ were Brazil and India. That didn't work out so well for them.

[Explorer8939]

The world would be a better place if it listened to Rush principles.

Biden letting Covid illegals Free into USA.

Why can't Thai say Bleep it and let's open up. LOL.

Covid really is just the Flu.

People who would have died due to flu died of C19 instead. Same same.

Wow. How many lies can fit into a single post?

COVID is not the flu. You can ask 550,000 Americans, except they are dead.

BTW, despite the earlier lies from Rush, smoking tobacco causes lung cancer. You could ask Rush about that, except he's dead.

[Sunlover2]

I used to get off the BTS early and walk toward Terminal 21 on Sukhumvit going back to my room and would see many freelancers. I usually chose the ones who were non-pros and just making extra cash for the rent. I had met one who worked at Tesco and was making extra money for rent, and another one who worked at a gift shop at the airport.

I think they could be considered semi-pro's: meaning someone engaging in an activity for pay or gain but not as a full-time occupation. Not sure how you were able to determined that on sight, but YMMV.

Years ago I picked up an attractive little spinner on a Friday night on soi 4. She told me she worked in a toy factory during the week. When she took off her clothing she exposed the thickest Bush I had ever encountered. If I had a machete I could have put it to good use.

That is when I realized her story was probably true, as pro's tend to keep it neat and trim down there for hygienec reasons. And my belief was further enforced when she thanked me after her very obvious 'happy happy' moment.

SL.

[Danny Duck]

Thanks for the information. It looks grim. I used to get off the BTS early and walk toward Terminal 21 on Sukhumvit going back to my room and would see many freelancers. I usually chose the ones who were non-pros and just making extra cash for the rent. I had met one who worked at Tesco and was making extra money for rent, and another one who worked at a gift shop at the airport. It's sad to hear only Thermae is the only place with girls.

About that place near Yaowarat, I used to go there after shopping at Chinatown and there would be one or two gems amoung the crowd. Sad to hear it's dead.

As for Lumpini park, I used to find clusters of girls on the east and west side of the park, and one of cutest freelancer I ever had was a dark skin slim girl at Lumpini.

Things in BKK don't sound good, but I hope it improves by next year.

A girl who has sex to pay rent is a Professional.

Now I know why I can't get good girls. LOL.

My definition is a bit off.

I'm not a guy who thinks paying 3,000 for a girls taxi is a non pay encounter. She really just likes my company. Okie Dokie.

[ShiftTab]

Finally, someone asking the good questions.

Streetwalker situation on lower Sukhumvit is dire. Apart from a handful of girls in front of Thermae, it's bad. Half are ladyboys, half are homeless types, very few passable girls left. Soi 15-21 still has an occasional, but much fewer than 4 months ago.

The local area south of Khaosan is still active, it may well be the only worthwhile place for streetwalkers in Bangkok that remains. Plenty of girls have moved there from Sukhumvit since there were just no customers. The going rate is 500, but that's better than nothing at all. Fortunately, daytime action is solid, I don't care much for that neighborhood at night. Not dangerous, but not pleasant for sure. You do have to look at women carefully, some real dragons and hard junkies among them, which might not be immediately obvious at night. Service is much worse than on Sukhumvit, even if you arrange a full-hour multi-pop session at a nicer place.

There's also a similar local area near Yaowarat towards the Wong Wian 22 traffic circle. Pretty dire in 2021, not even worth a look.

I don't recall streets around Lumpini ever being loaded (not in the last 10 years). The most I've ever seen is roughly two dozen girls in small groups, stretched along a huge distance around the park. Not great for browsing, and not all that good for partaking either. These days, it's not too active at all, sometimes you'd find zero girls.

If you're back in a year, much might be different by then. However, the industry has been in decline for many years, and it's possible it will never bounce back to pre-Covid levels.

Thanks for the information. It looks grim. I used to get off the BTS early and walk toward Terminal 21 on Sukhumvit going back to my room and would see many freelancers. I usually chose the ones who were non-pros and just making extra cash for the rent. I had met one who worked at Tesco and was making extra money for rent, and another one who worked at a gift shop at the airport. It's sad to hear only Thermae is the only place with girls.

About that place near Yaowarat, I used to go there after shopping at Chinatown and there would be one or two gems amoung the crowd. Sad to hear it's dead.

As for Lumpini park, I used to find clusters of girls on the east and west side of the park, and one of cutest freelancer I ever had was a dark skin slim girl at Lumpini.

Things in BKK don't sound good, but I hope it improves by next year.

[EihTooms]

Interesting. I do have a local ex-Pat friend who arranged to meet up with a fairly attractive girl out of one of the bars on Soi 7 facing the street. He told me it was a waste of time and would not repeat. It was in the spring right after I left. We had met this girl and her friend a few weeks earlier and he then contacted her via Line. So you can add that negative experience to your four.

There is another bar on Soi 8 called Today Bar with a similar calibre of girls as Soi 7. And to me, they appeared to have the same MO, which is to entice guys to buy them drinks and engage in banal convo but not go out, or if they do, not deliver the goods. I live on Soi 8 during the winter so I used to go in there from time to time but refused to buy them drinks and eventually they got the message. I prefer sitting on the bar counter with some pals and just watch the activity and people watch rather than play that wasteful game.
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Ah yes, I pass by that Today at 8 Bar or whatever the name is now (I think they changed it temporarily to Coffee and Food when bars were closed but restaurants could stay open) all the time and I have yet to see a punter walking out of there with a lady on his arm. But plenty of drinking going on. A popular spot for that.

I went in for a drink myself and met a girl there a couple of months after that bar first opened. One of the cuter, more doable girls there. I bought her a drink, chatted her up enough to find out it was No Go for anything I would have paid for and I never bothered to hit up any other girl there ever since. I still see her as I walk by almost every night drinking it up and getting shit-faced with some old farangs like me but never ever have I seen her leaving with a customer.

Maybe this apparent Ladydrink Hustle But No Sex culture in that bar and the newer ones on Soi 7 is a hold over from when many of those bars and girls moved from the old Queen's Plaza on Soi 22 to Soi 8 and Soi 7. I always got that same vibe at those bars; let's get drunk together but never have sex.

After I posted my previous "Strike 4" post I remembered a FIFTH fail to get a finished sex session with a girl I took from that new Soi 7 complex pre-Covid. Lol.

Breaking news, though, is one of the better looking girls in that complex who informed me she only hustles LDs and never barfines or goes with a customer Lined me out of the blue yesterday and asked if I am free Sunday, her day/night off, to meet. No discussion of date vs ST, money, sex or no sex or anything like that but just her day off and she wants to hang with me. I'll update here after.

But even if this one turns out great that's only a 16% success rate for me getting what I need sexually from those newish Soi 7 Bar Complex girls. Which is a piss poor rate, imo.

[Danny Duck]

Rush died last month. Time to find a new boogeyman.

HCQ alone was never advanced as a treatment. Rather (like the use case for malaria) it is used as a prophylactic measure.

A cocktail of HCQ + AMZ + Az has shown some success for CoVid patients with milder cases: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...0248975v1.full.

And it has been determined that HCQ does not help CoVid patients with an advanced (hospitalized) case: https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news...lized-covid-19.

SL.

The world would be a better place if it listened to Rush principles.

Biden letting Covid illegals Free into USA.

Why can't Thai say Bleep it and let's open up. LOL.

Covid really is just the Flu.

People who would have died due to flu died of C19 instead. Same same.

[Sunlover2]

Did you get your misinformation from Rush Limbaugh? Why anyone listens to that man is a mystery to me.

Rush died last month. Time to find a new boogeyman.

HCQ alone was never advanced as a treatment. Rather (like the use case for malaria) it is used as a prophylactic measure.

A cocktail of HCQ + AMZ + Az has shown some success for CoVid patients with milder cases: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...0248975v1.full.

And it has been determined that HCQ does not help CoVid patients with an advanced (hospitalized) case: https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news...lized-covid-19.

SL.

[Detwing1]

Can't say I have been to any place on Soi 7, but have been to Magic Table many times. And it's on Soi 7/1. No other bar attracted my interest, but if Magic Table has reopened, I am sure to return (but not for takeout).

I haven't seen much on SOI 7 that peaked my interest, or at least nothing I'd pay for.

There were a couple decent lookers up front (before you walk into the bar alley), but that's about all I saw.

The Beer Garden just down from there is even worse for talent. I stop in there for a beer now and then, but that's the extent of it.

To me, SOI 7 is simply a place to have a few beers, and nothing more.

[Papae Noel]

On that Soi 7 complex of bars, there are definitely more girls and livelier customer action to be found these days. But is it mostly serious drinkers looking for company to toss back a couple of dozen brews a night?

Can't say I have been to any place on Soi 7, but have been to Magic Table many times. And it's on Soi 7/1. No other bar attracted my interest, but if Magic Table has reopened, I am sure to return (but not for takeout).

[Tomasb]

Interesting. I do have a local ex-Pat friend who arranged to meet up with a fairly attractive girl out of one of the bars on Soi 7 facing the street. He told me it was a waste of time and would not repeat. It was in the spring right after I left. We had met this girl and her friend a few weeks earlier and he then contacted her via Line. So you can add that negative experience to your four.

There is another bar on Soi 8 called Today Bar with a similar calibre of girls as Soi 7. And to me, they appeared to have the same MO, which is to entice guys to buy them drinks and engage in banal convo but not go out, or if they do, not deliver the goods. I live on Soi 8 during the winter so I used to go in there from time to time but refused to buy them drinks and eventually they got the message. I prefer sitting on the bar counter with some pals and just watch the activity and people watch rather than play that wasteful game. I have noticed year in and year out that the action on Suk has depreciated noticeably til the point it's almost all LB and MILF's.

I have had a few positive encounters with some of the massage girls on Soi 8 but that's after going for a normal massage first, telling them I live up the street, then they give you their LINE and it's game on.

There is still a little FL action and the rare diamond in the rough to be found on Sukhumvit in front of Sofitel Hotel if your timing is just right.

Granted, it has only been 4 girls in a row over the past several months. But, to me, that indicated enough of a pattern of very disagreeable Bar Girl Culture in that complex for me to now merely stroll through there almost every night on my way to and from wherever, get huge smiles and aggressive lobbying to please come sit here to buy a drink and take me, but then to ignore practically all of it and move on to much, much better results with other P4P options.

[ErsatzJulian]

The US military has long believed China would release a bioweapon as a first strike so the conspiracy theory is not that far fetched. (It's possible the CCP feared US action to protect Hong Kong in late 2019 when the pandemic began. At least its not any farther fetched than the idea that the National Institutes of Health had information that chloroquine is an effective treatment for coronavirus since 2005.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16115318/

The AMA quietly added hydroxychlorquine back to its treatment protocols in late 2020 BTW.

But I understand if that is difficult for some to believe.

Did you get your misinformation from Rush Limbaugh? Why anyone listens to that man is a mystery to me. Here is a tweet from the AMA regarding the use of hydroxychloroquine for COViD19, https://twitter.com/amermedicalassn/...314370?lang=en, where it explicitly say their position with regards to hydroxychloroquine for the treatment of COVID19 remains unchanged. As for your article from the NIH, read the title: it is a paper about the use of Chloroquine for SARS-CoV, a related but different virus.