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  1. #49555
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Even though I'm a condom guy it's always interesting to see if a gal will do BBFS. I would say well over 50% will easily agree to it on the first encounter. And on the second and third encounters the percentage increases.
    Even during normal times, before the current dire economic circumstances while the girls today are supposedly more quickly and easily saying Yes to what customers ask of them, my rate of success in getting an UPFRONT agreement to it was running around 60% with girls I'd rate well above a go-go bar 7.

    So I have little doubt the "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" guys who made no effort to pop one on at crunch time and/or were prepared to offer a tip to go bareback were scoring an even higher rate of success in getting it with girls of at least that level of attractiveness. During normal times.

    Of course, if a customer never mentions it or asks for it and reaches for a condom at crunch time, his percentage of getting bareback in Thailand is going to be tiny, low single digits probably. Including today.

  2. #49554
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Much of the reports of unprotected sex in Thailand is just that.
    Even though I'm a condom guy it's always interesting to see if a gal will do BBFS. I would say well over 50% will easily agree to it on the first encounter. And on the second and third encounters the percentage increases.

  3. #49553
    Quote Originally Posted by Stykler  [View Original Post]
    Don't collapse in a state of incredulity, but it is not unknown for posters on ISG to embellish, distort, exaggerate, misrepresent and downright make things up to suit their argument de jure. So, in fact he might be bullshitting.........
    Much of the reports of unprotected sex in Thailand is just that.

  4. #49552
    Quote Originally Posted by Kerrstar  [View Original Post]
    Ok, yep that's the place. I got my soi's mixed up a bit and was thinking Soi 21, which I use as a reference for Asok station. I know it's not really correct but it helps me with my visualisation of the area. Soi 23 is where Bradmans is, which I usually go to, hence why it came to mind.
    I will add I saw a hot little hostess from another restaurant I have frequented in the past at the Hemingway's Soi 11 sitting with a couple of other girl friends all in seemingly full Freelancer mode. I hadn't seen her at that other restaurant for a while and wondered what happened to her. Maybe taking up a new or more exclusive career I hope.

    I generally don't like to hit on or engage with hostesses or servers at restaurants I know I will frequent with other dates, particularly non P4P dates, so I had kept our exchanges to small talk nicities. But now I know where to find her for a more fulfilling experience. Possibly.

    At that point when we gave each other big smiles and googoo eyes from across the room, I was already working another girl and left Hemingway's with her and her friend for another bar.

  5. #49551
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I don't know if I would say it was near Soi 23. But it was near Asok, which is not very far from Soi 23 if that is what you meant. It used to be located on Soi 14 just past and to the left of Suda Thai restaurant and that little side soi where the original Som's Haven was located.
    Ok, yep that's the place. I got my soi's mixed up a bit and was thinking Soi 21, which I use as a reference for Asok station. I know it's not really correct but it helps me with my visualisation of the area. Soi 23 is where Bradmans is, which I usually go to, hence why it came to mind.

  6. #49550
    Quote Originally Posted by Kerrstar  [View Original Post]
    Is this the new location of the Hemingway's that used to be near Soi 23, in the old Thai villa? That was a great bar and restaurant.
    I don't know if I would say it was near Soi 23. But it was near Asok, which is not very far from Soi 23 if that is what you meant. It used to be located on Soi 14 just past and to the left of Suda Thai restaurant and that little side soi where the original Som's Haven was located.

    It is mostly a restaurant but does get quite a drink and mingle crowd after dinner hours.

  7. #49549
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I stopped in a few clubs and restaurants on Soi 11 last night, Saturday night, to see how the freelancer scene on that soi is faring these days. Hemingway's (restaurant and bar)
    Is this the new location of the Hemingway's that used to be near Soi 23, in the old Thai villa? That was a great bar and restaurant.

  8. #49548

    8 Bar

    A new bar on Sukhumvit Soi 8 just opened a few days ago called 8 Bar. Interesting timing for a new bar to open smack in the middle of the biggest tourist area. Then again, Today @ 8 bar on the other side of the same soi has been very busy in the evenings during this period.

    This new beer bar is totally open air. Has a pool table. There is little evidence of working girls yet, which is one of the things keeping Today @ 8 busy, imo. Well, my date and I walked by last night and I wasn't sure if the 2 girls we passed from 8 Bar waving us in were just drink servers or also hookers.

  9. #49547
    Quote Originally Posted by DrBrianJones  [View Original Post]
    {Snip}

    My bigger point was however about this (censured), bragging here about coming inside the girls, after reassuring them he will absolutely not.

    Or the way he likes to remove the condom in doggy before coming, when they cannot notice.
    Don't collapse in a state of incredulity, but it is not unknown for posters on ISG to embellish, distort, exaggerate, misrepresent and downright make things up to suit their argument de jure. So, in fact he might be bullshitting. Just a thought.

  10. #49546
    Quote Originally Posted by DrBrianJones  [View Original Post]
    This is not my experience at all, but this is a case where I wish you are right.

    My bigger point was however about this (censured), bragging here about coming inside the girls, after reassuring them he will absolutely not.

    Or the way he likes to remove the condom in doggy before coming, when they cannot notice.
    What he is doing is criminal.

  11. #49545
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    I've lived here 21 years. Yes, it's illegal but like so many other things in Thailand there are places that provide in a safe clean environment. And the authorities don't shut them down.
    Except that the Constitutional Court ruled in February that Section 301 of the criminal code (which prohibits abortion except where the pregnancy is the result of rape or where the health of the mother is at risk) is contrary to Sections 27 and 28 of the Constitution.

    Of course this being Thailand the judgement gave 360 days before anything had to be done about it.

  12. #49544
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    I've lived here 21 years. Yes, it's illegal but like so many other things in Thailand there are places that provide in a safe clean environment. And the authorities don't shut them down.
    This is not my experience at all, but this is a case where I wish you are right.

    My bigger point was however about this (censured), bragging here about coming inside the girls, after reassuring them he will absolutely not.

    Or the way he likes to remove the condom in doggy before coming, when they cannot notice.

  13. #49543

    Freelancer Scene on Soi 11 Alive and Well

    I stopped in a few clubs and restaurants on Soi 11 last night, Saturday night, to see how the freelancer scene on that soi is faring these days. Hemingway's (restaurant and bar), Oskar's Bistro, Havana Social Bangkok, sometimes known as the Telephone Bar because of the secret phone number you enter in the old style pay telephone entrance to cause the club's door to pop open.

    I can say all of those places were packed with girls and customers between 10PM and 1AM last night with the biggest drop off in the crowd happening around Midnight. Good looking ladies, too. Too many of the customers looked like they spend all day at the gym. lol wtf? Pretty much shoulder to shoulder, butt to butt with everyone dancing or really just moving around looking something like dancing. No masks in sight.

    I zero'd in on a very sweet faced light skinned high water booty little lady with her girlfriend in Havana Social around 11:30PM and hung with them for a while. Took the sweet faced one back to my room at 1AM for a Long Time until about 10AM today. 2,500 baht. My number offer for LT and for what I require. There was no real negotiation. Would have probably been double that or close to it and maybe only for Short Time normally. BBFS+CIP later than I prefer last night and a very fine, super determined BBBJ+CIM this morning. Glad I have been getting those testosterone treatment shots lately. Busy weekend for me so far and it isn't over yet. lol.

  14. #49542
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    I've lived here 21 years. Yes, it's illegal but like so many other things in Thailand there are places that provide in a safe clean environment. And the authorities don't shut them down.
    I wonder about this law like so many Thailand have made whether it truly is applied at all unless it hits the front page and embrasses them it is just another law to try to make themselves as if they are a first rate nation? I've known a number of girls working that have had abortions in a number of cases I've heard conversations as if it was normal to have one if one chooses as if there wasn't a law? It seems it is no more than a convienance to have one or not to serve their agenda.

  15. #49541
    Quote Originally Posted by DrBrianJones  [View Original Post]
    I do not know where you got this information, and how long you have been living here, but anyone who had face this issue, or witness it through a Thai family member, would most probably tell you otherwise, explaining in part the high rates of teen pregnancy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Thailand =.

    "The legal status of abortion in Thailand is governed by the Thai Criminal Code. Abortion is illegal except in certain in circumstances. By the letter, the law allows termination of a pregnancy by physicians only (1) when abortion is necessary due to the health of the pregnant woman, or (2) if the pregnancy was the result of rape. Abortions performed outside of these circumstances are punishable by up to three years in jail (as well as fines) for the woman and up to five years for the performer (up to seven years if it was performed against the will of the woman)."
    I've lived here 21 years. Yes, it's illegal but like so many other things in Thailand there are places that provide in a safe clean environment. And the authorities don't shut them down.

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