Bangkok Reports

[Lefeu]

Depends how important the "tourism" part of your trip is and what you want to do in the non mongering time. Of the 3 BKK is the most interesting from a general tourism perspective and AC is the least. BKK has temples, culture, great dining, clubs etc. AC is a dilapidated third world shit hole with nothing to do outside fucking and drinking. Its ok for 3-4 days at most. PP is not quite as desolate as AC but not as good as BKK. For mongering if you want friendly English speaking girls with BBFS the norm, then its hard to beat AC, even with the higher prices and lower mileage in bars than the good old days. BKK has a large selection of pretty girls, but feels more commercial. Haven't played in PP so can't compare but seems again half way between AC and BKK.

Nice comparison among the 3 SEA places. I personally prefer PP over AC, despite the lack of English in PP. I find PP girls much friendlier, and easier to deal with. Not to mention the large presence of nice French restaurants and French bakeries, a foodie paradise in that part of the world. I also found AC girls to be a bit sneakier, and more money hungry.

[XXL]

I don't know, I've actually had a pretty good time with online during covid. Great looking girls and excellent prices. I'd say it's the best time I've had in quite a few years. I'm not going to be thrilled to see the hordes return.

Even though online schemes haven't worked out for me I won't be happy to see the hordes return either. Covid was pretty nerve-wracking for me because of travel restrictions, but the way Thailand was becoming overcrowded I'm not sure I would still be in Thailand if it hadn't been for Covid.

[Flyboy 2000]

And while BKK had clear popular hubs, it was much more convenient to stumble upon gems in the middle of nowhere. Like I could have pretties in Udomsuk and Chatuchak in a single day.

Would like to hear a bit more about Udomsuk and Chatuchak, Dragooner, would be nice to have some options outside of the 'hubs' as you call them.

[TourduMonde]

So imagine what it was like to be 21 in 1988 and the crew dropped you off at Soi Cowboy for the first time. Zero rules back then. None, nada, zilch.

Right. I've been (mostly) lurking these forums in preparation for my first ever trip next month. I find it interesting that a lot of people are singing the praises of the period when Bernard Trink's nightlife column in the Bangkok post was retired, when his column was seen as anachronistic and out of place in the new Bangkok.

I'm willing to bet that on your first trip in 1988, there was at least one person who told you that you'd missed out by not being around during the Vietnam war are and are era.

Probably first visit is always the best one so that means I've got a lot to look forward to next month. Thanks for all the posts, I will post reviews afterwards.

[YetAnotherGuy]

Pattaya is much better than BKK for cheap sex as a tourist.

I think that depends a bit on how old you are. In Pattaya and Phuket, one must compete with younger guys. Older guys are treated better in BKK, in my opinion.

[YetAnotherGuy]

...Problem is the reduced selection of working girls, which is outright depressing, often bordering on disgusting, as well as the complete lack of fun in the Bangkok scene....

Things are changing fairly rapidly. I was impressed with the selection at Twister last night, a considerable improvement in just a week's time. That said, still no nude dancing, which I'll be happy to see return.

[YetAnotherGuy]

I actually preferred now due to lack of competition.

I agree. The girl to guy ratio is pretty favorable now. I get attention from girls who would have ignored me in the past, and prices (and, I think, performance) are better.

[Dragooner]

With PP and AC it very much felt like I was mongering mostly in dedicated districts. And while BKK had clear popular hubs, it was much more convenient to stumble upon gems in the middle of nowhere. Like I could have pretties in Udomsuk and Chatuchak in a single day.

In Cambodia and Philippines I was always treated like another tourist, but in Thailand I routinely had to explain that I was Chinese and not Thai. Still, I got a lot of local treatment and prices.

Hey folks,

Considering a mongering + tourism trip next month but not able to decide between BKK Thailand or PP Cambodia or AC Philippines.

I have travelled a lot and mongered across the globe, so I am not a newbie. But I have not been to BKK or PP or AC.

I have RTFF on all these cities, but still need advice from someone who has been to all these cities and can provide a first hand insight.

Appreciate your help and as always I will contribute to the forum after I visit one of these destinations based on your suggestion.

Cheers!

[LookingLooking]

Getting back on track with the purpose of this forum, I heard from my source at Soi 7 Biergarten that next door open-air bars will reopen on Saturday, 19 March 2022 (2565), after 3 days of penalty closure.

Not all, as some have been slapped hard, I. E. Besides the underage issue (evil customers & bad mamasans in my opinion), some employees have no Thai ID (illegals), and some have no license or improper business papers (especially, Covid restrictions).

Now, don't you all rush down there and bottleneck the entrance. (You can use the 2nd entrance further up the street.)..

Thanks. Thought of going back there after skipping the place for 2 months. Now I would probably avoid due to illegals or improper business papers. Got many more places to go.

[Seeko]

Getting back on track with the purpose of this forum, I heard from my source at Soi 7 Biergarten that next door open-air bars will reopen on Saturday, 19 March 2022 (2565), after 3 days of penalty closure.

Not all, as some have been slapped hard, I. E. Besides the underage issue (evil customers & bad mamasans in my opinion), some employees have no Thai ID (illegals), and some have no license or improper business papers (especially, Covid restrictions).

Now, don't you all rush down there and bottleneck the entrance. (You can use the 2nd entrance further up the street.).

Happy mongering.

Seeko.

[LookingLooking]

Compared to now any single day pre-COVID was the good old days!

I actually preferred now due to lack of competition.

[Houston Player]

I don't know, I've actually had a pretty good time with online during covid. Great looking girls and excellent prices. I'd say it's the best time I've had in quite a few years. I'm not going to be thrilled to see the hordes return.

Completely agree with this.

[Nounce]

...Heck, I just got back from a mongering trip to Colombia. I was surprised to stumble into a large group of Chinese mongers in a restaurant there....

I think they are expats that work there. I met a group that frequent La Isla too.

[Downandup]

Super thanks for this. I thought #A is 3 holers.

It was a typo. It should have been #A+ not #+ which means anal is on offer.

In fact #+ means they offer extra services such as squirting but you will need to read the reviews to find out what.

[Lefeu]

...There are massage parlors nearby where I'm staying currently in Pattaya where their standard rate is 1200-1500 be for CFS. If you're comparing it to when you used to pay $21 back in 2000, then it seems in line with inflation, if not less...

I am always puzzled by the lack of appreciation for inflation. It is real and can cause damage over longer period of time. With an inflation of 4% per year, prices would double every 18 years or so. If general prices are doubling every 18 years, one should expect to pay twice as much in 18 years.

I can see the effect of keeping prices down. I visited the FKKs in Germany for the first time in 2006, and I have been going back every year since then. The price during that time span was always 50 Euros per half an hour. Well, guess what, all the girls who could, left Germany for other countries in Europe. The prices in Switzerland, Dubai, and other countries kept up with inflation, but not in Germany.

Another matter is the arrival of new category of mongers. I went first to Thailand in 2003, and have been going every year except Covid years. I noticed an exponential growth in new types of mongers, newly minted well-off Chinese, Koreans, and Indians. IMO, that had more of a dramatic effect on the business than inflation.

Heck, I just got back from a mongering trip to Colombia. I was surprised to stumble into a large group of Chinese mongers in a restaurant there. Word is spreading I guess with the help of forums like ISG. I suppose we just have to live with this new environment for mongering.