Bangkok Reports

[11Bravo]

So many guys on here "settle" for a girl because she's 500 or 1000 baht cheaper. That is the opposite of what I do. It's difficult enough to find a decent girl worth barfining I'm not going to say no for 500 or 1000 more.

Sometimes you loose sight of the big picture. I remember once I was bargaining with a girl and we couldn't seem to reach an agreement. Then it hit me, I was balking at the equivalent of $10 USD... Geesh. For me, wherever I am, I find out the going rates, and I know what I'm willing to pay. If she asks more, I figure it never hurts to ask, and just decline. If she makes a counter-offer, I'll listen. If not, move on. She's not the only game in town. The game changes, you either adapt, or find other games. Easier to do if you're a resident, but doing some reading here definitely helps.

The added twist is some girls come to the game looking for the big money of tourism. Without tourists, there would be fewer girls available.

Everywhere I've gone, girls always ask where you're from. Like I've said, the translation is: which price does she quote, tourist or resident. I'd find it entertaining to say I was wherever for the first time, and this was my first night out... Then watch her eyes spin around like a slot machine as she contemplated her good fortune. Then, in the ensuing conversation, I'd drop remarks, either local language or mentions that a first time wouldn't know, and see how long it took her to catch on. So I'm easily amused... and just about all take it in good nature...

[Steve 9696]

Due to a personal issue, my international days might be coming to an end. To the point my next trip may be my last. So I am thinking of doing something new. Maybe a can't miss. I've long heard SE Asia is a prime destination. I have covered South America and Mexico fairly well. So my struggle is deciding between Bangkok and Colombia or Brazil. Of course so much is subjective, but I have a few objective questions.

I enjoy massages, particularly body to body. I also enjoy the bar scene. I like to have a drink or two and get to know a girl before discussing term $. With that in mind, I definitely see me prioritizing the soapies and the gogos. (I'm still researching gogos and have alot to learn) Generally speaking, I seek value and don't seek out the leaat epensive option. But I do stick to a budget. Am I in the right neighborhood to budget somewhere around 16,000 baht (daily) for a quality 90-minute b2 be with at least a BBBJ AND a few drinks and maybe a couple hours with a barfined girl? (Obviously I'm not including food, airfare, hotel, etc. In that total).

I've read alot about the declining quality in looks at the soapies. Personally, I'm picky. Way too picky for a guy with my looks. LOL I am not a trophy hunter. I don't need a 10 to be happy. But I do like a pretty face. I know in Colombia, for example, I can't walk down the street without mentally salivating. Is the massage scene so bad that I'll have to visit multuple spots to find a 7?

Lastly, what is the recommended minimum stay? Or perhaps more to the point, how long does it take you to feel normal after those flights. The flights I'm looking at are 25-31 hours. I'm not staying in Thailand for a month. Say what you want, but this is not a location that I find terribly interesting to me in a tourist sense. In fact, I'm not sure I'd stay 2 weeks. Is it just crazy to make that trip for a week and a half, for example?

Thanks in advance.

Your budget is plenty strong for Bangkok. You say you have done Brasil. Like Scandallo or Bomboa? Or elsewhere. Bangkok is great fun and generally cheap. Having a legit thai massage (no sex) for $10/ HR every day does not suck.

My main advice to you is don't try to do the 30 hours all at once. Stop overnight in London and you can be in Heidi's bed (Diva escort) within an hour of landing. You won't get a better B2 B FBSM anywhere worldwide. Or stop overnight in Frankfurt and do Sharks or Oase FKK. Do one coming and one on way back. This is the way to fly to Thailand. .

[Belvaros]

Year after year it's the same thing. Girls will try charging more during what they perceive to be "high season". Go during low season when you have more leverage if price is a factor for you. Hotels will be cheaper in "low season" as well.

So many guys on here "settle" for a girl because she's 500 or 1000 baht cheaper. That is the opposite of what I do. It's difficult enough to find a decent girl worth barfining I'm not going to say no for 500 or 1000 more.

I would never say no to a Thermae girl for 3000 if she's clearly the best girl available. All I would think about if I got the 2500 girl was I didn't work my ass of all my life to settle for second best. 500 baht is barely enough to buy a Wendy's combo here in Tokyo.

I hear you. I lived in Tokyo in the early 90's at the end of the BOOM, couldn't have dinner for 2 at a decent place with wine for under US $300.

I think my mindset changes in TH because of the great value around and thinking in Baht (big nos) rather than US $ (small nos).

Going to pay the 3500 vig on this one this next week when I'm back from Pattaya (2 hours = 3500).

[Banana Boi]

Year after year it's the same thing. Girls will try charging more during what they perceive to be "high season". Go during low season when you have more leverage if price is a factor for you. Hotels will be cheaper in "low season" as well.

So many guys on here "settle" for a girl because she's 500 or 1000 baht cheaper. That is the opposite of what I do. It's difficult enough to find a decent girl worth barfining I'm not going to say no for 500 or 1000 more.

I would never say no to a Thermae girl for 3000 if she's clearly the best girl available. All I would think about if I got the 2500 girl was I didn't work my ass of all my life to settle for second best. 500 baht is barely enough to buy a Wendy's combo here in Tokyo.

[Watnow78]

Hey Guys,

So I have recently joined this website and I must say if these girls are accurate, OMG what a deal! I haven't played with the website that much, but the couple of minutes that I had scrolled through and checked out all the beautiful women, I couldn't believe my eyes. And the price is amazing. From what I understand is that you have to go to where these women work correct? And the price that they advertise is that the flat rate? Or do they try to upsell you and ask for extra baht? Also I tried downloading the app for my Android and it only shows it in thai. Is there an English version? Thank you.

[NovaThings]

About the pimp. It's nothing like the scene in nana plaza, soi cowboy or patpong. And far from the Pattaya scene. If you can convince a girl to go with you, it will be ST and the prices start at 6000 Baht ST. Then they will only consider it if you are a decent spender. That means paying for their time. How it works is you buy a bottle service package. Then you choose 1 girl for each guy. So, if you are alone, the bill will be higher of course. Then you pay about 1500-2500 Baht for the first hour with each girl and 500-800 Baht for each additional hour. They will drink from your bottle. There is no bar fine. You will need to make a side deal with the girl and they can't leave until at least 2 am. Most girls there won't do BBFS and LT. It will be one shot with a condom. But dam, they are smokin hottttt. The experience will be more of a GFE than a PSE.

For example, my last visit there cost me 25,000 Baht for my bar tab, 10,000 Baht for the lady. Have fun mate.

Still on the fence about pimp not about cost but about experience. Any recommendations within NaNa? The shorter the better and I'm more into GND then plastic looking. Would prefer 3 hole as well. Plan to swing by Snow White, bkk vice?, and maybe cherry. I might just find a legit massage shop honestly by my 3rd day. But any guidance on which places have the best talent.

I'll make sure to share my pimp experience though since that sounds like a high cost high risk scenario which I'll be toft.

[HorseTrader]

Every place I've been, every year, I hear this over and over again, for decades. Yes, visitors might spoil a few places, but Bangkok is a fairly big playground. The market is controlled by supply and demand. Tourist season, there might be fewer choices but tourist season isn't all year. If you're a visitor, yes, you want to make the most of your time, and if you've laid out the coin for the airfare, hotel, etc. , you don't want to curtail your enjoyment over some relatively small change. I don't blame them. If you're a resident, MY experience, you know alternative places to go and have the time to build contacts. If you just want a new girl every time, regulars don't work. I don't blame the providers when they take a windfall advantage, but repeat business counts a lot as it's literally money in the bank.

Bottom line: visitors have the cash, residents have the knowledge, and if you're smart, you can leverage said knowledge to your advantage.

This post summarizes how I feel about pricing. 1. Law of supply and demand govern the prices. No small group can make a big change in pricing. 2. The 2-week millionaire isn't going to turn away the girl he likes to save 500 or 1000 or even 2000 baht.

The added twist is some girls come to the game looking for the big money of tourism. Without tourists, there would be fewer girls available.

I'm neither a 2-week millionaire nor an expat. I tend to spend about 10 or 12 weeks per year in Thailand.

[Dcrist0527]

If you do Thailand make sure to eat some Thai food. Thai food is 20% of the reason to go to Thailand. Even eating in the Thai mall food courts is better and cheaper than almost all of my choices at home. Food courts are rated pretty highly with most Thailand vloggers.

Rating girls in Thailand is a bit like comparing escorts to junkie street walkers in the USA. Where the normal woman scale in the USA goes from -3 to about 7, the Thai woman scale is more like 4 to 10 LOL.

Even cheap Thai hotel air conditioning with those mini-split units is some of the best air conditioning out there. Nothing like the anemic air conditioning in most cheap USA hotels, or completely absent air conditioning in Bogota. LOL.

Even a cheap 200 baht for an hour foot massage in Thailand is a worthwhile thing. Something worth getting everyday with your intended budget.

Thailand is kind of like being in a much hotter temperature wise version of Santa Fe, but mostly skinnier with better food & massage choices, and far less scary.

Thank you, and thanks to Expat as well. Good advice. Maybe I'm selling Thailand short. As for latinas vs Thai women, I'm atrracted to all types. I think, generally, Asian women and South American women can be opposite ends of the spectrum. But I love the whole spectrum. LOL. The only thing I don't like are the plastic asses that seem to be growing in popularity in Latin America.

Good points on food. To be totally honest, Asia is very foreign to me. Being from the east coast, all of my international travel is to the south. I've never paid much attention to Asia so for some reason, it feels overwhelming not knowing a single word of Thai, unfamiliar with cultures, norms, etc. But my research tells me that though the girls may have a preference for Asian men, I'll get by just fine.

I assume I'll be ok on finding girls hotter than I deserve. I say I'm picky but I'm not excessively picky on looks. My sweet spot is finding a 7 but more important that we vibe well. I'm a GFE guy, DFK and BBBJ are most important to me and that seems to be fairly standard. If I can get by on 16 K baht for two sessions including a good nuru, I might pull the trigger on BKK. The only final hesitations I have is 30 hour flight and that humidity. So your comments on AC is very much appreciated! LOL.

[11Bravo]

All tourists mess it up for us.

Every place I've been, every year, I hear this over and over again, for decades. Yes, visitors might spoil a few places, but Bangkok is a fairly big playground. The market is controlled by supply and demand. Tourist season, there might be fewer choices but tourist season isn't all year. If you're a visitor, yes, you want to make the most of your time, and if you've laid out the coin for the airfare, hotel, etc. , you don't want to curtail your enjoyment over some relatively small change. I don't blame them. If you're a resident, MY experience, you know alternative places to go and have the time to build contacts. If you just want a new girl every time, regulars don't work. I don't blame the providers when they take a windfall advantage, but repeat business counts a lot as it's literally money in the bank.

Bottom line: visitors have the cash, residents have the knowledge, and if you're smart, you can leverage said knowledge to your advantage.

[TooDirty]

Due to a personal issue, my international days might be coming to an end. To the point my next trip may be my last. So I am thinking of doing something new. Maybe a can't miss. I've long heard SE Asia is a prime destination.

If you do Thailand make sure to eat some Thai food. Thai food is 20% of the reason to go to Thailand. Even eating in the Thai mall food courts is better and cheaper than almost all of my choices at home. Food courts are rated pretty highly with most Thailand vloggers.

Rating girls in Thailand is a bit like comparing escorts to junkie street walkers in the USA. Where the normal woman scale in the USA goes from -3 to about 7, the Thai woman scale is more like 4 to 10 LOL.

Even cheap Thai hotel air conditioning with those mini-split units is some of the best air conditioning out there. Nothing like the anemic air conditioning in most cheap USA hotels, or completely absent air conditioning in Bogota. LOL.

Even a cheap 200 baht for an hour foot massage in Thailand is a worthwhile thing. Something worth getting everyday with your intended budget.

Thailand is kind of like being in a much hotter temperature wise version of Santa Fe, but mostly skinnier with better food & massage choices, and far less scary.

[Expat American]

Due to a personal issue, my international days might be coming to an end. To the point my next trip may be my last. So I am thinking of doing something new. Maybe a can't miss. I've long heard SE Asia is a prime destination. I have covered South America and Mexico fairly well. So my struggle is deciding between Bangkok and Colombia or Brazil. Of course so much is subjective, but I have a few objective questions.

I enjoy massages, particularly body to body. I also enjoy the bar scene. I like to have a drink or two and get to know a girl before discussing term $. With that in mind, I definitely see me prioritizing the soapies and the gogos. (I'm still researching gogos and have alot to learn) Generally speaking, I seek value and don't seek out the leaat epensive option. But I do stick to a budget. Am I in the right neighborhood to budget somewhere around 16,000 baht (daily) for a quality 90-minute b2 be with at least a BBBJ AND a few drinks and maybe a couple hours with a barfined girl? (Obviously I'm not including food, airfare, hotel, etc. In that total).

I've read alot about the declining quality in looks at the soapies. Personally, I'm picky. Way too picky for a guy with my looks. LOL I am not a trophy hunter. I don't need a 10 to be happy. But I do like a pretty face. I know in Colombia, for example, I can't walk down the street without mentally salivating. Is the massage scene so bad that I'll have to visit multuple spots to find a 7?

Lastly, what is the recommended minimum stay? Or perhaps more to the point, how long does it take you to feel normal after those flights. The flights I'm looking at are 25-31 hours. I'm not staying in Thailand for a month. Say what you want, but this is not a location that I find terribly interesting to me in a tourist sense. In fact, I'm not sure I'd stay 2 weeks. Is it just crazy to make that trip for a week and a half, for example?

Thanks in advance.

It seems there are two types of guys. The ones who are used to Latina women in Colombia and Mexico are often disappointed with Asian women. Does Asian porn turn you on? Go look online at porn with Thai girls. If that's your thing, you will enjoy Thailand. But if you are super picky and want the latina booty and tits, Asia is maybe not for you. If you are not interested in the culture and coming purely for a fuckation then just go to Pattaya. Its more dense and has far more girls in a small area. And a week in Patts will probably be enough. A 16 K bhat budget for fucking is more than plenty. I usually spend less than 10 and get 2 to 3 decent fucks a day including some massage.

[Nyezhov]

Totally disagree. I've been doing Suk for years. Thaniya is a better chilled experience for me. I agree that if the guy can afford Pimp (see recent post on it being 35 k for a night from Everything Thai (one of the most experienced members here) he can afford a really nice hotel. Lots to choose from in both Suk and Silom. But saying Thaniya is a waste of time is really subjective an in my (also subjective view) is just wrong. Some great options in Thaniya. And unlike Suk, Silom is not a dump / dirty /. Silom is relaxed, close enough to walk to the river and is chilled with great shopping by day. But if the guy wants soapies in the day. Suk 23/24 is far better than Silom.

First timers or even second or third timers are wasting their time in Thaniya.

[Goatscrot]

All tourists mess it up for us.

I remember one of my first trips to Cambodia back in 2000. I ran into a a guy I met in Bangkok in mid-99 that first day in Phnom Penh. He had been living there for a time. He put his arm around me and said, this is what we pay, don't pay more or it will mess it up for everyone. And he was right. But there is just no telling that to the "it's my money and I'll do what I want" group. The local Thai punters on FF certainly aren't tipping and paying more than the listed price for their sessions. Some of them might take the gal out for dinner and drinks, but they're certainly not poisoning the well. And of course overall they're much better at compartmentalizing then we westerners.

[Forty Drinks]

Totally disagree. I've been doing Suk for years. Thaniya is a better chilled experience for me. I agree that if the guy can afford Pimp (see recent post on it being 35 k for a night from Everything Thai (one of the most experienced members here) he can afford a really nice hotel. Lots to choose from in both Suk and Silom. But saying Thaniya is a waste of time is really subjective an in my (also subjective view) is just wrong. Some great options in Thaniya. And unlike Suk, Silom is not a dump / dirty /. Silom is relaxed, close enough to walk to the river and is chilled with great shopping by day. But if the guy wants soapies in the day. Suk 23/24 is far better than Silom.

Experience guys don't spend $700 on girls in Thailand.

Come on its Thailand not Dubai.

[PayForIt]

Dude go to the hotel section of the forum and see where people are staying. I would stay around the Sukhumvit area. I could recommend you a dozen hotels, go to Agoda and find in your price range. If you can afford pimp, you could afford a super nice hotel. Avoid Thaniya it's a waste of your time. So is Patpong.

Totally disagree. I've been doing Suk for years. Thaniya is a better chilled experience for me. I agree that if the guy can afford Pimp (see recent post on it being 35 k for a night from Everything Thai (one of the most experienced members here) he can afford a really nice hotel. Lots to choose from in both Suk and Silom. But saying Thaniya is a waste of time is really subjective an in my (also subjective view) is just wrong. Some great options in Thaniya. And unlike Suk, Silom is not a dump / dirty /. Silom is relaxed, close enough to walk to the river and is chilled with great shopping by day. But if the guy wants soapies in the day. Suk 23/24 is far better than Silom.