Bangkok Reports

[Belvaros]

Quality advice, I've had these online bait and switch all over, especially places like Budapest, Kiev and Bangkok, but that is part of the fun of this game.

For every 10 online random I tried in Hungary only 2 were even close to the profile. Had better luck in the pubs overall. Bangkok is a bit of fun though.

The fiwfans reviews I've tried out (following supposedly top ranked players) have been more bait and switch then random picks.

I'm going with instinct, tineye and a modicum of saying WTF from now on.

YMMV and hopefully your luck as well.

Once upon a time there was a snake oil salesman.

Honestly, it should not come as a surprise. A decade ago we were discussing how photoshopped escorts were on the websites or how when you would show up at an oily the girls on the cards were so heavily retouched that they no longer resembled the lady in the flesh.

It's always been this way. Now with the online world opening up and the ability to post reviews, it also should not be a surprise to see fake reviews to boost the girls or the shop.

Some hotels in the west do it on their Tripadvisor page so why wouldn't these shops do it?

This is the very reason we have forums like this one, to share genuine photos, reviews, opinions on places and girls.

My preference when I go to a place is to see the girls in a lineup, in the flesh, that way not only do you see the girls in the flesh but also their mood of the day. If the girl looks at her feet and avoids eye contact, you know she's not going to give you what you're after.

[Wolvenvacht]

Hi guys,

Are hotels that were girl friendly before covid still girl friendly now? E. G Marriott in Bangkok was guest friendly so has anyone had any issues bringing a girl back to guest friendly hotel since covid?

Thanks in advance.

I was in Thailand last November (Phuket (2 places), Koh Samui, Chiang Rai (2 places) and, if anything, they became even less strict on "joiners". The only thing that got religiously checked was the girl's vaccine status. Most hotels are desperate for guests, so if you book a room for two, they don't object. Booking a room for two isn't more expensive than a room for one, unless you take the breakfast option.

[TourduMonde]

Question for oldtimers from a BKK first timer. How quiet is Bangkok during and after Songkran? I will be arriving at that time this year (booked uncancelable tickets without realizing). Obviously in a non-Covid year would we expect things to be back up to speed by Saturday or Monday, or is it a whole week or more written off? I'm thinking in terms of both P4P, freebies if I can get them and other tourist stuff in to do in Bangkok as well as whether legit restaurants and bars shut down. They say Songkran celebrations are worth seeing too, but perhaps not for a whole week if everything else is closed.

[Banana Boi]

Are hotels that were girl friendly before covid still girl friendly now? E. G Marriott in Bangkok was guest friendly so has anyone had any issues bringing a girl back to guest friendly hotel since covid?

I'll take an educated guess that the answer is yes as long as you book a room for 2. If you really want to be certain call or email the hotel before you book. Hotels will tell you.

[HornyDude353]

Hi guys,

Are hotels that were girl friendly before covid still girl friendly now? E. G Marriott in Bangkok was guest friendly so has anyone had any issues bringing a girl back to guest friendly hotel since covid?

Thanks in advance.

[Banana Boi]

I suggest that you read this thread, there is a lot of information here as you go back in time.

Or read the thread in the Sideline Girls link I provided just 3 or so posts from the one he quoted. GaijinGigolo just took the links from that thread and posted them on this thread.

Or read some post's Racshack is posting on Sideline Girls http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2617944#post2617944

[EihTooms]

Many thanks for these links. Has anyone used these websites?
B
How it's working? Do we meet the girl in her place? Has anyone managed to contact the girl directly? So far I'm talking on "Line" with bots and "admins" of girls. I am also aware that the reality may not match the photos.

Thanks in advance for the hints.

This was the most detailed overview of those sites I'd read here by someone who apparently uses them a lot.

See Post #50588 here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...orts&p=2617944#post2617944.

My own brief experience with 2-3 of them was chatting on Line with who I realized was never the actual girl whose profile included that Line info, of course, but instead some clerk, pimp or manager who offered nothing of value to me in terms of deciding to book an appointment with the girl or not.

And, frankly, if the assessment of the Thai "sexpert" in the linked post is correct, I would be wasting my time, travel and let's say 1,500 baht at a minimum if among the deadly sins deserving blackballing, getting banned for life or, worse, getting plagued by bait and switch scams going forward are so much as trying for BBFS or submitting a negative review on a girl even if no way she delivered a claimed service such as a genuine BBBJ+CIM or in fact if she herself was actually a disappointing bait and switch lady who showed up in the room after you'd paid in full upfront.

I am sure there must be some cases that turn out well. But I was not tempted to go for it based on those Line chats and overviews I've read here even if 1 in 20 of the girls I met through those sites turned out to be physically lovely. So what, if all those other restrictions and warnings to be a very well behaved boy with little or no expectation of delivery as advertised applying after paying upfront. I can be denied real sex with hotties for a lot less time and effort than that. LOL.

[Downandup]

Many thanks for these links. Has anyone used these websites?

How it's working? Do we meet the girl in her place? Has anyone managed to contact the girl directly? So far I'm talking on "Line" with bots and "admins" of girls. I am also aware that the reality may not match the photos.

Thanks in advance for the hints.

I suggest that you read this thread, there is a lot of information here as you go back in time.

[EihTooms]

This is 100% true.

I have also noticed that girls with "notably above average looks" attitudes or priorities have changed since covid. I think they are less interested in volume and more interested in repeating with regular customers or going with first time customers that appeal to them. They are alot more choosey in who they go with. Before covid it was all about how much cash they could make, after covid they seem to be more interested in a decent lifestyle.

Yes. And I have also gotten the impression that they are quite comfortable with this 100 baht per lady drink commission thing just for easy pocket change for street food snacks and so on, free and easy come and go anytime and any night at any bar or no bar at all, show up as they please or not at all, wearing whatever street clothes they had fun shopping for with all that money or bought for them by customers in addition to their regular support, not having to display their butts and boobs with or without a bikini for hours on stage every night and they don't miss the monthly salary and pressure to meet any quota for anything one bit.

It might be difficult to get many of these girls, new arrivals as well as veterans, back to the old ways if or when this Covid thing ever fades into the manageable background.

[Member #4753]

And, despite the ladydrink commission only thing that you correctly cited, if a girl working in or around any bars or on the street is notably above average in looks and not a rip off in bed, she is definitely not hurting for customers or money these days.

A few of my favorite repeats from pre Covid days returned to Bangkok from their provinces a few weeks ago and I can assure you a couple of them can get the kind of dudes who are here now to happily pay 2,500+ for ST twice or more per day and night, require a condom for everything including DFK if they feel like it and ladydrink commission only conditions or problems are not a factor in their lives.

This is 100% true.

I have also noticed that girls with "notably above average looks" attitudes or priorities have changed since covid. I think they are less interested in volume and more interested in repeating with regular customers or going with first time customers that appeal to them. They are alot more choosey in who they go with. Before covid it was all about how much cash they could make, after covid they seem to be more interested in a decent lifestyle.

[Bernikle]

In addition to Thaifriendly, there's also Thaiflirting. Totally free and no waiting around 10 minutes between sending messages.

I also just recently discovered a treasure trove of websites featuring 'sideline' girls. All in Thai, of course, but google will translate for you. The prices are sure a lot better than what most of you numbskulls seem all to eager to pay as well. Check and report back. Go.

https://fiwfans.com/

https://www.sidelinethailand.com/

https://www.dek-sideline.com/

https://www.tiger-clubsideline.com/

https://www.ydclub.website / home-page.

https://sideline2u.com/

https://xn--c3cspb1dibx6e2g0bc5a1fd.com/

https://www.fanfinfin.co/

You're welcome.

Many thanks for these links. Has anyone used these websites?

How it's working? Do we meet the girl in her place? Has anyone managed to contact the girl directly? So far I'm talking on "Line" with bots and "admins" of girls. I am also aware that the reality may not match the photos.

Thanks in advance for the hints.

[EihTooms]

From what I know, there's no official price for ST / LT because they act as purely bars. You can barfine to take a girl out to other places. For ST / LT you will have to negotiate directly between yourself and the girl. You don't have to drink, just buy the girls drink. They make miserable amounts of money on a normal night. The lady drink they sell, they only get half of it as their daily wage. No fixed wage for them. If they don't sell any on 1 night, they get 0. Some night they may even have to make a loss for those staying far away.

Knew 1 of them who is staying in rama 2 area. Have to spend almost 300 baht a day on 2 way motorbike taxi to Sukhumvit area to work. If she doesn't make 300 baht that night (sell at least 3 lady drinks), she's making a loss. Of course she may be lying. But 300 baht a night wages isn't much, I'll give it to her anytime if she's entertaining.

Not all the bars there feature girls only.

There are other "vibrant and cheerful" places. It depends on your definition of "vibrant and cheerful".

I have heard and observed all those things as well.

However, it should be mentioned for any newbies reading this that there has never been an "official price" required to pay a girl in a beerbar or go-go bar or enforced by a bar before Covid, now or ever. Unless there is some strange exception I never heard about.

As long as you pay the barfine, a girl can then go with you and give you the greatest LT you ever had for free or demand 5,000 baht for nothing but a smile and a chance to watch her playing games on her smartphone for 10 minutes. It is all up to the girl and what you negotiated with her.

I should also mention in line with the other 'vibrant and cheerful" places point you made, regarding beerbars that is, that there are so many new beerbars open on Soi 4, Soi 6, Soi 7, Soi 8, Soi 11, even Sukhumvit itself and now go-go bars open and operating as beerbars and clubs on Soi Cowboy and in Nana Plaza, the concentration of girls in those Soi 7 bars has lessened quite a bit. They are much more spread out now.

And, despite the ladydrink commission only thing that you correctly cited, if a girl working in or around any bars or on the street is notably above average in looks and not a rip off in bed, she is definitely not hurting for customers or money these days.

A few of my favorite repeats from pre Covid days returned to Bangkok from their provinces a few weeks ago and I can assure you a couple of them can get the kind of dudes who are here now to happily pay 2,500+ for ST twice or more per day and night, require a condom for everything including DFK if they feel like it and ladydrink commission only conditions or problems are not a factor in their lives.

[EihTooms]

Newbie question from a non-newbie.

I noticed the only truly vibrant and cheerful area on an otherwise depressing Sukhumvit is the cluster of bars on Soi 7. What's the typical barfine at those bars and what do they charge for ST / LT right now?

Not much of a drinker and I didn't want to ask without intending to take anyone.

Barfines are usually 500-600 baht. The girls will generally accept 1,500-2,000 for ST, 2,000-2,500 for LT.

That is, if they go at all. And, as usual, looks and popularity will effect the amount of baht they will quote and / or accept. And I find some girls won't quote a price at all and just leave it up to you. You being an experienced punter and possibly coming across as an expat who lives here, the latter response is more likely to happen than if you come across as a real newbie. They'll know you aren't going to pull some stunt like handing them 500 baht after a great LT.

Now, bear in mind, I often hesitate to chime in on these questions because, as you know, my approach is probably unlike the way 95% of Thai punters go about things. Meaning, I am likely to actually say I want BBFS+CIP or whatever term for it the girl will understand upfront and in the bar before paying a barfine and taking a girl. Or, at the very least, that she would finish a BBBJ with a true 100% CIM. Particularly if she is the one who quotes a price or brings up the money part first.

So, forgive me Croc and others if my numbers turn out to be off quite a bit or even the part about some girls not going with customers at all. I have no doubt that all those things are effected by what I generally need to get settled upfront before I take a girl that most other punters don't.

[LookingLooking]

Newbie question from a non-newbie.

I noticed the only truly vibrant and cheerful area on an otherwise depressing Sukhumvit is the cluster of bars on Soi 7. What's the typical barfine at those bars and what do they charge for ST / LT right now?

Not much of a drinker and I didn't want to ask without intending to take anyone.

From what I know, there's no official price for ST / LT because they act as purely bars. You can barfine to take a girl out to other places. For ST / LT you will have to negotiate directly between yourself and the girl. You don't have to drink, just buy the girls drink. They make miserable amounts of money on a normal night. The lady drink they sell, they only get half of it as their daily wage. No fixed wage for them. If they don't sell any on 1 night, they get 0. Some night they may even have to make a loss for those staying far away.

Knew 1 of them who is staying in rama 2 area. Have to spend almost 300 baht a day on 2 way motorbike taxi to Sukhumvit area to work. If she doesn't make 300 baht that night (sell at least 3 lady drinks), she's making a loss. Of course she may be lying. But 300 baht a night wages isn't much, I'll give it to her anytime if she's entertaining.

Not all the bars there feature girls only.

There are other "vibrant and cheerful" places. It depends on your definition of "vibrant and cheerful".

[Member #4753]

Interesting story in news today from Kanchanaburi.

A german man was found dead hanging from his iron fence. Apparently his wife of 21 years had just left him. The house was set on fire and a large message was painted on the wall.

"21-year cheating but never enough, fuck you".