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  1. #51391
    Quote Originally Posted by OKGuy1917  [View Original Post]
    How hard it is to find really good, sloppy, rough deepthroat in Bangkok?
    Depends on your size. The shorter the easier!

  2. #51390

    Deepthroat

    How hard it is to find really good, sloppy, rough deepthroat in Bangkok?

  3. #51389
    Quote Originally Posted by GrapeMan  [View Original Post]
    Bangkok has roughly three "RLDs" if you can call them that. Soi Cowboy, the most famous one and Nana Plaza, are the most popular, Soi Cowboy was the old school one, but for many, Nana plaza overtook it, and post-covid, Soi Cowboy is much more shut down than Nana. Many people prefer Nana. The other one would be Patpong, but that much less visited and out of the way, and often little reason to bother making the trip when you can do the same or better at Nana.
    Thanks for the response, but the area I (and the YouTube video) was referring to was not one of the well known ones of Nana, Cowboy or Patpong. I'm spewing because at the time I saw the video I knew I should have noted the area down, but by the time I remembered the video was removed. I'll keep trying. Thanks.

  4. #51388
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I realize it can be different for an expat residing in Bangkok like me compared to someone here for only two weeks. But, same as you, I am having no problem finding available girls at good prices right now. I would go even further to say I am getting some of the youngest and cutest girls I have had in a while. And I certainly haven't gotten any younger over the years. LOL.

    Now, I apparently missed the Golden Age of Thai Mongering that reportedly occurred 10-20 years ago because I was not mongering here during that time. But these past 10 years here, including during the closures and now during the struggling recovery, were damn well better for me than when I was vacationing in Thailand a few times per year in the early / mid 1990's.

    One thing I have noticed about the admittedly changed demographics where Thais began to have fewer kids over the decades is it is a lot harder for 2 adult children to support mom, dad, grandma, spinster aunt and drunk uncle than for 5 adult children to do it. Not even if they are better educated and get a better job with higher wages today.

    Therefore, you might not find as many desirable girls choosing a 7 night a week career as a gogo dancer but the number of mall workers, shop girls, office workers and university students interested and available for a bit of extra family support income for a discrete BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM every few days seems to be growing. Hence, the online option.
    I can't speak for Bangkok, but there is a deluge of ladies from Isaan in Pattaya. Bars are popping up all the time now in the usual Farang hot spots, not to mention the newly emerging Thai bars that most of us never see. The big problem now is finding a room for newly arriving ladies to sleep in.

    Loads more silicon enhanced ladies.

    Posters will always claim that Pattaya was better in 2002 or 1982 or 1969 and there will be posts here in 20 years claiming that 2022 was the best time for ladies.

  5. #51387
    Bangkok has roughly a shitload of RLDs, if you know how to find them, so lets try make this forum a bit more then stuff any kid can find on first page of google.

    If there's any Thai members here, they might point to less visited places, but thank you very much, there's multiple red light districts to visit for those who can't stomach the touristy bullshit. For me off top of my mind a bunch of massage places around Victory Monument come to mind, recently there was a streetwalker area near Chinatown, mentioned here, then there's likes of Ratchaprarop Soi 8 (Ratchaprarop Airport Link Station), Pracha Rat Bamphen Road (Huai Khwang MRT Station) and Soi Charoen Krung 42 (Saphan Taksin BTS Station), then an area close to where Poseidon was practically swarming with fiwfans girls, and so on. I'm still learning and it's a process.

    This is a huge city, thais like to fuck and always have, it's just getting a lot harder finding places if your non-thai.

    Quote Originally Posted by GrapeMan  [View Original Post]
    Bangkok has roughly three "RLDs" if you can call them that. Soi Cowboy, the most famous one and Nana Plaza, are the most popular, Soi Cowboy was the old school one, but for many, Nana plaza overtook it, and post-covid, Soi Cowboy is much more shut down than Nana. Many people prefer Nana. The other one would be Patpong, but that much less visited and out of the way, and often little reason to bother making the trip when you can do the same or better at Nana.

  6. #51386
    Quote Originally Posted by Stykler  [View Original Post]
    OK, this is a long shot but here I go.

    A year or so ago I was browsing You Tube on Bangkok and some dude was referring to an area in Bangkok known as Bangkok's second RLD. I for the life of me can't remember the name of the area he was referring to, and the video has since been deleted. A Google search didn't reveal much at all.

    Can any BKK expert out there take a guess to which area he might have been referring to? Thanks.
    Bangkok has roughly three "RLDs" if you can call them that. Soi Cowboy, the most famous one and Nana Plaza, are the most popular, Soi Cowboy was the old school one, but for many, Nana plaza overtook it, and post-covid, Soi Cowboy is much more shut down than Nana. Many people prefer Nana. The other one would be Patpong, but that much less visited and out of the way, and often little reason to bother making the trip when you can do the same or better at Nana.

  7. #51385
    Quote Originally Posted by Mdemde  [View Original Post]
    Arriving at Suvarnabhumi Airport last weekend on a flight from Manila, and before I went through Immigration, I was asked to provide my proof of vaccination record and my passport. They were only checking the name on the vax record to see if it matched the name on the passport, there was no validation check on the authenticity of the vax record, each inspection lasted no more than about 10 seconds. I don't actually have a genuine vax record so I was lucky that they didn't try and validate it, but my guess is with the numbers now coming through the airport they won't have the resources to validate every single vax record. You only need to provide proof of a negative test if you are unable to show your vax record.

    Apart from the brief check mentioned above, there are no other restrictions for foreign tourists arriving in the country, all the other restrictions and requirements ie compulsory health insurance, the Travel Pass etc that were in place, were dropped on July 1.
    I recently checked the Thai embassy's site in my country and it appears that they don't require a vax certification anymore prior to giving a visa. They want either double vaxxed people (with proof) or a negative test (PCR or Antigen) 72 hours prior departure. And as you said, every other requirements have been dropped (and no quarantine also).

    Tilac bar looked very busy from the outside, almost all tables at the outside patio area were occupied with customers and had a few girls floating around, but inside there were only 3 girls up on the stage and about the same number of customers. It always used to be a very popular bar with dozens of dancers, and was always busy with a lot of customers.
    That place was already dead long before the covid shitshow.

  8. #51384
    Quote Originally Posted by Mdemde  [View Original Post]
    Last Saturday night I went to Patpong, the night market is no longer operating though there were still a few stalls open on Silom Road but very few people about. The majority of the gogo bars in Patpong were closed. Most of the area was in darkness and there were hardly any visitors about. I would be surprised it it ever recovers. The main Kings Castle bar (King 1) was open and had an acceptable number of girls up on the stage, but the numbers were way down on pre 2019 when the bar was always bursting with girls. On my visit last Saturday I'd say there were only about a fifth of the number. I thought the quality of girls was below average, IMO prior to 2019 the quality was always above average and the bar was always popular with the Japanese and other Asians, as well as with Westerners. There were few customers in the other bars.

    One of my favourite bars at Nana Plaza was Billboard on the top floor, it was then a very popular bar always crammed full of girls, many of which I thought were very pretty, and you could always see quite a few really smoking-hot girls in the bar. I went in there last Sunday and was shocked at the extremely poor quality of the girls and the numbers were about half of what they were back in 2019.
    I went to Kings Castle last weekend too. I think it was raining from memory and the customers were non existant. There were a couple of cute girls but nothing special. I always thought Kings Castle 1 had the hottest girls pre covid. But it is definitely an asian club and this white boy alwats felt a little unwelcome there.

    I agree on your thoughts in regards to BillBoard. Precovid it was great. You could arrive at opening time (8 pm or 9 pm, cannot remember) and pick off a stunner amongst the 100+ girls. I have been in BKK since the pandemic started and have not seen any stunners in Billboard in 2 years. There are a few maybes but no stunners there. I hope they get their recruiting eye in again, as the quality is very thin right now.

  9. #51383
    I been to the usual big names in Nana. Angeleithwitch, Spankys, Billboards, Blondies, Mandarin. All touted by Stick.

    None comes close to the quality of Rainbow 5 talent.

  10. #51382

    My first visit to Thailand in 3 years

    I used to live in Bkk but left in 2019 and went to live in the Philippines, I am in Bkk now on a 'visa run' and it's my first visit to Thailand in 3 years.

    Arriving at Suvarnabhumi Airport last weekend on a flight from Manila, and before I went through Immigration, I was asked to provide my proof of vaccination record and my passport. They were only checking the name on the vax record to see if it matched the name on the passport, there was no validation check on the authenticity of the vax record, each inspection lasted no more than about 10 seconds. I don't actually have a genuine vax record so I was lucky that they didn't try and validate it, but my guess is with the numbers now coming through the airport they won't have the resources to validate every single vax record. You only need to provide proof of a negative test if you are unable to show your vax record.

    Apart from the brief check mentioned above, there are no other restrictions for foreign tourists arriving in the country, all the other restrictions and requirements ie compulsory health insurance, the Travel Pass etc that were in place, were dropped on July 1.

    When I was living in Bkk I used to visit the 3 main gogo bar areas about once a week. I had my favourite bars in each area and there was always a good choice of pretty girls available in those bars.

    Last Saturday night I went to Patpong, the night market is no longer operating though there were still a few stalls open on Silom Road but very few people about. The majority of the gogo bars in Patpong were closed. Most of the area was in darkness and there were hardly any visitors about. I would be surprised it it ever recovers. The main Kings Castle bar (King 1) was open and had an acceptable number of girls up on the stage, but the numbers were way down on pre 2019 when the bar was always bursting with girls. On my visit last Saturday I'd say there were only about a fifth of the number. I thought the quality of girls was below average, IMO prior to 2019 the quality was always above average and the bar was always popular with the Japanese and other Asians, as well as with Westerners. There were few customers in the other bars.

    On Sunday night I went to Nana Plaza, the majority of the gogo bars were open but visitor numbers were way down on what was the norm when I was last there in 2019.

    One of my favourite bars at Nana Plaza was Billboard on the top floor, it was then a very popular bar always crammed full of girls, many of which I thought were very pretty, and you could always see quite a few really smoking-hot girls in the bar. I went in there last Sunday and was shocked at the extremely poor quality of the girls and the numbers were about half of what they were back in 2019.

    Outside of Nana Plaza on Soi Nana, most of the bars were open, some were quite busy, some had few customers. I counted about 30 streetwalkers, and IMO they really were a bit on the rough side.

    Then on Monday night I went to Soi Cowboy, as in Nana Plaza the majority of the gogo bars were open but the usual visitor numbers were way down. Many bars that always used to be busy with customers and had a good number of girls, though they were open, were dead.

    Tilac bar looked very busy from the outside, almost all tables at the outside patio area were occupied with customers and had a few girls floating around, but inside there were only 3 girls up on the stage and about the same number of customers. It always used to be a very popular bar with dozens of dancers, and was always busy with a lot of customers.

    I went into Crazy House bar, it always used to be stuffed full of mostly pretty girls as well as some really smoking-hot girls, but on my visit on Monday the number of girls was about less than half of normal, and the quality was a bit on the rough side. It always used to be stuffed full of customers as well, though on Monday night the bar was quite busy with customers rather than being stuffed full of them. The upstairs area was closed.

    Baccara bar used to have a system whereby you had to pay for a drink BEFORE entry into the bar, but they have done away with that and you now enter the bar, find a seat then order a drink. Girl numbers were way down, and there were not too many customers.

  11. #51381
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I realize it can be different for an expat residing in Bangkok like me compared to someone here for only two weeks. But, same as you, I am having no problem finding available girls at good prices right now. I would go even further to say I am getting some of the youngest and cutest girls I have had in a while. And I certainly haven't gotten any younger over the years. LOL.

    Now, I apparently missed the Golden Age of Thai Mongering that reportedly occurred 10-20 years ago because I was not mongering here during that time. But these past 10 years here, including during the closures and now during the struggling recovery, were damn well better for me than when I was vacationing in Thailand a few times per year in the early / mid 1990's.

    One thing I have noticed about the admittedly changed demographics where Thais began to have fewer kids over the decades is it is a lot harder for 2 adult children to support mom, dad, grandma, spinster aunt and drunk uncle than for 5 adult children to do it. Not even if they are better educated and get a better job with higher wages today.

    Therefore, you might not find as many desirable girls choosing a 7 night a week career as a gogo dancer but the number of mall workers, shop girls, office workers and university students interested and available for a bit of extra family support income for a discrete BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM every few days seems to be growing. Hence, the online option.
    Nice insight there.

    Having just done a few visits to Hua Hin, and a stocktake of my own backyard around Rawai whcih showed lots of new talent recently arrived.

    I am still of the opinion that a lot of country girl talent (both Isaan and Northern) skip Bangkok and follow family or friends connections to smaller places and bars.

  12. #51380
    Quote Originally Posted by Lefeu  [View Original Post]
    I was there in Bangkok 2 weeks ago, and I think I saw both of them open. We are talking about the BJ bars in the alley off soi 8, right?
    Kasalong definitely open, but poor quality and reduced hours, girls, or like ladies are out front.

    Lolitas seems to be open, but never anyone out front, you have to stick your head in and look.

  13. #51379
    Quote Originally Posted by MaxBkk  [View Original Post]
    ...I know of lots of girls that will only see asian guys, preferably Korean, Japanese or Chinese...
    I was in Singapore a few weeks ago, and my interest was strictly Viet girls. I wanted to try the online game and it took me a couple of days to get screened. To my surprise, I saw many online ads that specifically stated "no whites". This was in addition to no blacks, no Indians, etc.

  14. #51378

    Deomgraphic and Technology shift

    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    There's no longer an ample supply of working girls in Thailand. Demographics have shifted massively and permanently. Fertility rate has been under 2 children per woman since 1992 (affecting the number of women under 30 now in 2022), compared to the 5+ in the early 1970's (women under 30 back in 2000's). Incomes have also risen significantly, to the point where a typical salary, even on the low end, is sufficient to live on without freelancing part-time.

    The difference is stark, but the industry started off huge, there was plenty of inertia, and many punters were refusing to see the changes. For almost a decade, we've seen attrition with very few new faces, but many of the older providers hanging on. This was apparent everywhere, but most obvious in oilies like Tulip.

    This situation was dire well before Covid, and the pandemic won't make it better. I just don't see where the large supply of girls would come from. Perhaps the economic crisis brewing in Laos (nearing a breakdown) would send a few working girls over the border, but that won't last long and is unlikely to have large effects down in Bangkok.

    Meanwhile, there's no shortage of punters, so with the full reopening, it's only natural to expect prices to go up, and quality way down. At one point, I guess they'll stop coming.

    Plenty of places were mongering meccas for a while, but withered due to various factors, usually demographics and increasing wealth of the locals, coupled with some significant event. I hear 1988 Olympic Games killed mongering for foreigners in Seoul and SARS in 2003 killed foreigner bars in Hong Kong. Thailand is here now, unfavorable background trends plus a major event. Now, mongering will never disappear (it still exists in both Seoul in HK), but it might change to be smaller and mostly for locals, no longer worthwhile for most visitors, especially long-distance ones.
    This is such a great post. I would add that technology and new wealth in Asia is also changing the scene.

    Even 20 years ago white farangs were basically the only game in town. Now there are Korea, Japanese, Chinese and even Indians flexing their economic muscle. I know of lots of girls that will only see asian guys, preferably Korean, Japanese or Chinese.

    Adding to this the internet has opened up a whole other world. They join "how to date a farang" facebook groups, have been given the tour of the local village by mum pointing out all the houses that have been built by farang money in 1 way or another. When they hit 18 they are already well versed in all the little deceitful tricks that we all find so annoying.

  15. #51377
    Quote Originally Posted by Ggekko2009  [View Original Post]
    In my view, Thailand is overrated, and after experiencing Colombia, it is definitely a much better option for me, not to mention it is much closer to the US.

    Ironically, the only memorable time that I had in Bangkok was when I was with an Uzbek girl and her friend pre-covid. I had never had much fun with the Thai girls there.
    I've always loved Asian women. The big but thing never really attracted me much. And if there skin (I. E. Inside there thighs) isn't nice and smooth, ek.

    Seeing a lovely little thing up on stage in Nana Plaza, where the strings on her bikini bottom pulled tight, that gap between her hip bones and stomach, where the string's not against her. And it's not a rarity there.

    And I'm old enough that, when I first started visiting Thailand, Escobar was still bombing the shit out of everything. FARC (FARK?) and whoever else was kidnapping whoever. I know it's much more sorted now, but is still nowhere near the safety of Thailand.

    If it was just cheap prices, there's Venezuela and Bangladesh.

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