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  1. #45031
    Quote Originally Posted by Kickoffs  [View Original Post]
    Most other mongering sites rate the girls. Doesn't seem to be what happens here. Probably why I abandoned mentioning specifics. Well that and just don't remember these women. But for someone who hasn't been to LOS, it'd be nice to get a general idea of how the playing field looks before going there and how much. Wish had dedicated more time and words to comparing each place, but it seems to be well hashed out anyways for something so subjective to begin with.
    Of course, there are tons of recent videos of girls on the street in Bangkok and Pattaya and even sometimes in the go-go bars posted on YouTube. I think those videos are going to give you a more realistic assessment of how the girls look in a given destination than photos posted here. As I've said before, I could easily show someone (or post here) a recent photo of a girl who would look like a stone cold 9 or even a 10 but who in real life looks and comes across no better than a 6.5 or a 7. By the same token, I could show someone a photo of a girl that might elicit a guffaw of derision from a dude and, sure enough, 2 minutes after that dude meets that girl in the flesh he's hounding me for her contact info.

    But with the videos you see on YouTube these days, I think you can make a fairly accurate comparison between, say, the girls of Thermae and in front of Nana Hotel in Bangkok vs the girls on Beach Road and on Soi 6 in Pattaya or wherever. Inside the go-go bars is a different matter. But the range from what you see on the streets or in front of the bars isn't really going to be wildly different behind closed doors very often.

  2. #45030
    Quote Originally Posted by CzarNicholas  [View Original Post]
    Thats not her!

    A cheap knock off LOL.

    The one 2 night has braids like a high schooler.
    Yes, there is one with dark blond (reddish?) hair she wears in double braids like a highschooler. She is not what I would call hot. But she is not fat or scrawny either. Have not seen her face up close but does not seem more than just "ok" from across the soi. She is out in front of Nana Hotel often. Probably the one you are referring to in your last sentence above.

    But she is not to be confused with the very hot one you, Syzygies and I have mentioned in the past with blondish hair who also wore it in double braids like a highschooler. That is, IF I am talking about the same very hot one you guys have talked about. lol. I have not seen that very hot one working the area in several weeks, either in the afternoon or in the evening. And I have not seen her in any pics or videos posted here.

  3. #45029
    Quote Originally Posted by Kickoffs  [View Original Post]
    Thanks. Of the 5, one was 1500 and another was 1800 baht. This wasn't the initial quote and had to be negotiated down. 3000 was the top but fell to 2500. This just seemed like random variance as my approach was the same to all as I'm sure you and many others have experienced, so I don't feel I'm doing anything special here.

    Asked for everything from BBFS and BBBJ to CIM and DATY. Personally do not DATY when P4 P. Asked about BBFS to see how open minded she is and also check for any mouth sores if she says yes. Sometimes if there's desperation from her for $ after agreeing to BBFS, it's time to pass and move to the next. A crappy vetting process and not against BB as did do BBFS a few times during the trip. But these Thermae TGs were CFS & BBBJ and a couple said CBJ which is a hard pass. This is generally the process that works for me when setting expectations in the room though would be open to a better approach.

    Of course, you start with introducing yourself, asking for her name, if she lives in BKK, if she has work the next day, and how much. She will only ask 3 questions: where are you from, where is your hotel, and how long are you staying? Hahaha.

    What is your method?
    My methods are similar to yours, but not necessarily in the asking for it, but in stating this or that is what I need to pay an acceptable price. And I am not so worried about girls who say Yes to either of my minimum requirements (BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM) readily. At least, I have never gotten sick from sex in my life except for an easily treated and quickly cured dose of Trichomonas about 45 years ago I got from a non pro university girlfriend. And that includes many, many girls who readily said Yes to my requirements.

    For the most part, my methods have not changed much since I wrote more extensively about them way back in my Posts #33419 and #33429 in this thread. As you see, there are rare instances when I am willing to forego getting an upfront agreement to my personal requirements. But very rare indeed.

  4. #45028
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    I don't follow anything about Trump at all. However let us just say that I am reliable, other than occasionally forgetful. Thais that know me come to know that.

    If the girl does not try to do her part, then I can back out quite quickly. However, Thai girls early on taught me Thai manners. One of those points was "The price is not my business, if I don't want to buy it". Asking the price is the start of a negotiation to buy, in the Thai view. You are not allowed to find out the price for things you do not want or need.

    In China, I heard it is very hard to get out of their shop until you buy, if showed any interest in a product at all. ha ha.
    I don't like to start negotiations with a girl unless I am ready to take a girl. Especially considering my minimum requirements in terms of service are not even on most punters' menu; BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM.

    If I have a girl of interest in my lap, sitting next to me or standing in front of me at Thermae or another FL location, she says Yes to what I want and for an acceptable rate but then I say, "Ok, thanks. I was just curious. Maybe next time," I am a damn waste of time in a P4P environment and ought to be seen that way by others. I don't even see it as relating to Thai culture. Just common sense under my circumstances.

    Perhaps it is less of an issue for punters just fine with basic, standard fare of "lick around the edges, if that, slip on a condom and proceed." In that case, the money is about the only thing to discuss. So it isn't as though the girl has invested any real time or "face" to reply to the question.

    A better way to deal with the situation where I am interested but not right now and no I don't want to negotiate for something that is not going to happen tonight is to ask for her Line info. Then all the particulars can be covered on the night I am ready to go. If she does not want to share Line info, oh well, maybe see you here another time.

  5. #45027
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    If she agrees to you demands and price, and then you move on, you will look bad in Thai eyes. It is very impolite to negotiate with a Thai if you don't actually want to buy. The next girl will assume you are also wasting her time.

    Still maybe you don't care. However important principal in Thailand and Asia. You don't need to know the price and the services, if you don't intend to buy. Its just very rude (but accepted in Farang countries).
    Definitely can see your point here and can accept the cultural difference that you've pointed out. From her perspective, no one wants their time wasted which is certainly relatable no batter where one is from. However I have to look at this from a P4P perspective where I do need to know price and services in order to get a sense of what value I can get in an area that I wasn't familiar with and only read about. Even still, I'll take your advice as it is a good one. Thanks.

  6. #45026
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    Sounds like you follow Donald Trump's school of ethics. Trump says you should never back out of any deal that you have personally agreed upon.
    I don't follow anything about Trump at all. However let us just say that I am reliable, other than occasionally forgetful. Thais that know me come to know that.

    If the girl does not try to do her part, then I can back out quite quickly. However, Thai girls early on taught me Thai manners. One of those points was "The price is not my business, if I don't want to buy it". Asking the price is the start of a negotiation to buy, in the Thai view. You are not allowed to find out the price for things you do not want or need.

    In China, I heard it is very hard to get out of their shop until you buy, if showed any interest in a product at all. ha ha.

  7. #45025
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Walked by Nana FLs tonight. Didn't see any hot deaf girl or anyone else hot for that matter. After that I went to Thermae and walked counter clockwise hoping some wise ass with attitude bumped into me. No such luck so I assume Kickoffs wasn't at Thermae. I didn't see anyone new and exciting at Thermae.

    Anyone who knows Thermae knows the top girls there are not offering their services for 1500 or 1800 baht. I suspect Kickoffs is not pursuing the prettiest or younger girls at thermae. Like Smoothy said, pics or they're ugly.

    Anyone else here pulled a top young girl out of Thermae for 1500 baht?
    It doesn't matter whether you believe it or not. Had no idea Thermae was such sacred spot where prices are static. But feel free to cry about it some more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    Depending on the crowd, I walk whatever way I want. But I don't deliberately bump into folks, and half the time I go there it's just for a pit stop.

    I myself am quite unstable and welcome the excitement of having some tourist shove me, so that I can watch his reactions later when it's payback time. Tough guys should always remember that that sceezy old dude ya shoved could have a BIB generals number in his phone who loves helping out friends. Where? Thermae? Ok.

    Or even better, his gang of Motosais he has cultivated for years. And some folks know the staff by name.

    Always be cool in Thailand.
    Does this mean you cannot defend yourself? LOL.

  8. #45024
    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin69  [View Original Post]
    Strange report. What's with the info on numbers? And the girl rating scale? Is this the official you. And scale or the S. E. A scale? The summary on the plaza was a welcome addition to the bank.
    Most other mongering sites rate the girls. Doesn't seem to be what happens here. Probably why I abandoned mentioning specifics. Well that and just don't remember these women. But for someone who hasn't been to LOS, it'd be nice to get a general idea of how the playing field looks before going there and how much. Wish had dedicated more time and words to comparing each place, but it seems to be well hashed out anyways for something so subjective to begin with.

  9. #45023
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    If she agrees to you demands and price, and then you move on, you will look bad in Thai eyes. It is very impolite to negotiate with a Thai if you don't actually want to buy. The next girl will assume you are also wasting her time.

    Still maybe you don't care. However important principal in Thailand and Asia. You don't need to know the price and the services, if you don't intend to buy. Its just very rude (but accepted in Farang countries).
    Sounds like you follow Donald Trump's school of ethics. Trump says you should never back out of any deal that you have personally agreed upon.

  10. #45022
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    That scrawny girl in that video that was shared recently is the "hot" deaf girl?
    The first video posted (I assume the only one), we already stated was not the right girl (although fuzzy picture hard to see the face). The target girl dressed more casual (less provocative although could be seen her ass was very delicious), had dark blondish hair and was shorter, quite slim (or maybe scrawny for you), nice looking tits (covered and not large), and a very pretty face. If there has been a more recent video, then I missed it.

  11. #45021
    Quote Originally Posted by Kickoffs  [View Original Post]
    Asked for everything from BBFS and BBBJ to CIM and DATY. Personally do not DATY when P4 P. Asked about BBFS to see how open minded she is and also check for any mouth sores if she says yes. Sometimes if there's desperation from her for $ after agreeing to BBFS, it's time to pass and move to the next.
    If she agrees to you demands and price, and then you move on, you will look bad in Thai eyes. It is very impolite to negotiate with a Thai if you don't actually want to buy. The next girl will assume you are also wasting her time.

    Still maybe you don't care. However important principal in Thailand and Asia. You don't need to know the price and the services, if you don't intend to buy. Its just very rude (but accepted in Farang countries).

  12. #45020
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    the hot deaf girl is rarely there.
    That scrawny girl in that video that was shared recently is the "hot" deaf girl?

  13. #45019
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    It was a mixed bag. You had all types of dudes in thermae. As stated, I got to know many of the farang se Asian based authors, journalists, etc. Gals were a mixed bag as well. Far more part-timers looking to supplement their office income a few days a month. It was really amazing the weekend before rent was due. On a few occasions I had gals drive me to the PB hotel in their cars.

    Also when it stayed open till 5 am, GoGo gals who didn't get a BF or just had a short time would show up. Nana Disco closed at 2 am so by 230 or so thermae was packed. I had some of my best looking FLs there and some of my best experiences.
    Yep, Thermae was the place I ended up back then when I didn't find a gogo girl.

  14. #45018
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Walked by Nana FLs tonight. Didn't see any hot deaf girl or anyone else hot for that matter.
    Those street girls are not your type, most likely, and the hot deaf girl is rarely there. I only managed to select one girl from there this year. Don't know if she is still there, or got enough money now. So yeh, most are not good enough.

  15. #45017
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    That's when I used to include Thermae in the rotation at least once a trip to Bangkok, but now I may pull a Thermae girl every couple of years. However, I thought of Thermae as much more down market back then than I do now. It was not a favorite of mine simply because I liked the gogo's better (still do). Back then, Long Gun at Soi Cowboy absolutely rocked so I didn't get to Thermae too often. I think the girls at Thermae were wilder and sluttier back then, but I think there are girls there now who are actually more attractive. Don't get me wrong, there were some stunners back then too, but these days I kind of like the same look that the japanese guys like so the chicks making themselves up to attract japanese guys are attractive in my opinion. I also think the dudes who frequented Thermae back in the old days were more down market than you see there now. LOL. It was much more of a freak show in every aspect than it is now. Regardless of whether there may be pretty girls there now, the ambience there these days is absolute crap. It's a borefest to sit in there. The times I do go, I normally either pull a girl out of there within a few minutes or leave. On the rare occasion I do sit in there and have a beer, I am simply waiting for a stunner to walk in the door so I can jump her immediately before anyone else has a chance. If it takes longer than 1 beer, I am out of there.

    As for which places in Bangkok are fun, I think many of the gogo's are pretty fun.
    It was a mixed bag. You had all types of dudes in thermae. As stated, I got to know many of the farang se Asian based authors, journalists, etc. Gals were a mixed bag as well. Far more part-timers looking to supplement their office income a few days a month. It was really amazing the weekend before rent was due. On a few occasions I had gals drive me to the PB hotel in their cars.

    Also when it stayed open till 5 am, GoGo gals who didn't get a BF or just had a short time would show up. Nana Disco closed at 2 am so by 230 or so thermae was packed. I had some of my best looking FLs there and some of my best experiences.

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