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  1. #56381
    Quote Originally Posted by QualitySmut  [View Original Post]
    Hi everyone. I'm looking to go to Thailand almost exclusively for the BJ bars. I had some questions I hope you all could answer.

    1. Are the girls time watchers? I was in 7th heavans website and they say the time limit is 40 min. Not trying to brag but I couldast near that long if I try. I'm wondering if most girls will complain if you take longer than 10 minutes.

    2. I personally have a spit fetish. Is getting a sloppy bbj easy to get? Are they usually sloppy? Do I need to specify my preference? Is this this level of service something uncommon and I'll have to do more than just ask the first few chicks I see at a BJ bar.

    3. Are the double bjs worth it? Do they take turns or do they genuinely tag team your member?

    4. Any wild stories to share to help me understand the norms and limits of some of the places.
    Norms: Except in 7th Heaven, the girls are ugly. In 7th Heaven they are less ugly.

  2. #56380
    Quote Originally Posted by MamaGuevos  [View Original Post]
    I had a terrific time at Butterfly, although I did not take the girl back to my hotel.

    You will notice that some of the girls advertise that they do BBFS (2000 baht surcharge), which is highly unusual for a massage place, but I can confirm it is true. Some of the other girls advertise that they do swinging. This is of interest to me.

    Does anyone know of any swingers clubs in Bangkok? If so, please either post your experience or PM me.

    THANKS. MG.
    For swinging activity, you can find out some informations here: https://lussuriaclub.com/lifestyle/s...onsiderations/.

    Note to the admin: feel free to remove the link if not aligned with your policy. I do not promote the website, only this page, the most recent one suggested by Google to that answer to the swinging question.

  3. #56379
    Struth, reading the last several posts (esp AtexGuy. Great posts) really makes me want to go back. Only had a couple of soapies in my past Thai visits and they were not great (prob my fault there fault equally) Feel I have unfinished business over there LOL.

  4. #56378

    BJ shops question

    Hi everyone. I'm looking to go to Thailand almost exclusively for the BJ bars. I had some questions I hope you all could answer.

    1. Are the girls time watchers? I was in 7th heavans website and they say the time limit is 40 min. Not trying to brag but I couldast near that long if I try. I'm wondering if most girls will complain if you take longer than 10 minutes.

    2. I personally have a spit fetish. Is getting a sloppy bbj easy to get? Are they usually sloppy? Do I need to specify my preference? Is this this level of service something uncommon and I'll have to do more than just ask the first few chicks I see at a BJ bar.

    3. Are the double bjs worth it? Do they take turns or do they genuinely tag team your member?

    4. Any wild stories to share to help me understand the norms and limits of some of the places.

  5. #56377
    Kick streamer MURDA says he get Hot Girls, many for FREE. LOL. Hahaha.

    After seeing his stream his Definition of hot girls needs to be reevaluated.

    He hängst out in Patpong area. Nuff said.

  6. #56376
    "Licking nipples is a technique they use to delay sucking on your turgid member. I let them lick for a few minutes before I grab them by the neck and stuff it. ".

    And I thought they were fascinated with our nipples simply because our "man boobs" tend to be bigger than their own boobs! Haha!

  7. #56375
    Quote Originally Posted by ATexGuy  [View Original Post]
    Really tough question, but I would lean towards La Belle for overall best value.
    Thank you for another incredibly helpful and comprehensive answer. I almost therefore feel guilty asking a final couple of questions and feel free not to answer! But your experience here is really beneficial. I too am a white Caucasian man and I like to believe I am always well dressed, clean and smell very good. But its clear that is not going to be that helpful to me so that will be a new experience because I cannot recall being discriminated against ever. But maybe not a bad thing to have to personally experience what so many of our brothers from around the globe do experience.

    My questions are (1) what do you consider to be the "generous" tip to the Papasan at La Belle and (2) could you share the range of pricing for each of the four venues you listed. Thanks again. I have an upcoming trip and will definitely use the benefit of your experience to guide me.

  8. #56374
    Quote Originally Posted by ATexGuy  [View Original Post]
    I stumbled upon this place the other day and thought I would recommend it. The girls are young and super cute. Not the gorgeous girls you find in the high-end soapies, but really cute and a big step above what you find in bar girls in Nana or Cowboy. I visited one afternoon and was quite impressed.

    Okay, so to me this is where the real value of this place is. Check out the prices for outside service. 7,500 TBH for 6 hours and unlimited shots. That's about $200 USD for a beautiful young Thai girl to come to your hotel for 6 hours. While the trans brawl was happening on the street steps from my hotel, I was up in my room with a beautiful naked Thai girl all night. It was spectacular.

    https://butterflymassage.x.2nt.com/e...ce-page-e.html
    Are all services included in the price, or are there extras?

  9. #56373
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    I'm totally devastated that I miss that. I should have been there it would have been the highlight of my life.
    There's a video circulating on facebook featuring this creature rounded and viciously beaten up by a group of ten Thais or more while she attempted to get out of the elevator.
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  10. #56372

    Butterfly girls and swinging

    I had a terrific time at Butterfly, although I did not take the girl back to my hotel.

    You will notice that some of the girls advertise that they do BBFS (2000 baht surcharge), which is highly unusual for a massage place, but I can confirm it is true. Some of the other girls advertise that they do swinging. This is of interest to me.

    Does anyone know of any swingers clubs in Bangkok? If so, please either post your experience or PM me.

    THANKS. MG.

  11. #56371

    Recommendation. Butterfly. Sukhumvit 24

    I stumbled upon this place the other day and thought I would recommend it. The girls are young and super cute. Not the gorgeous girls you find in the high-end soapies, but really cute and a big step above what you find in bar girls in Nana or Cowboy. I visited one afternoon and was quite impressed.

    Okay, so to me this is where the real value of this place is. Check out the prices for outside service. 7,500 TBH for 6 hours and unlimited shots. That's about $200 USD for a beautiful young Thai girl to come to your hotel for 6 hours. While the trans brawl was happening on the street steps from my hotel, I was up in my room with a beautiful naked Thai girl all night. It was spectacular.

    https://butterflymassage.x.2nt.com/e...ce-page-e.html

  12. #56370

    Really tough question

    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    For me, the most informative and comprehensively written report in this forum for a long time. Thanks. If you had to rank the high end soapies not based on price but on how much you enjoyed the experience in each (not just time with the girl (s) but facilities etc) what would your ranking be and why. Great report.
    Really tough question, but I would lean towards La Belle for overall best value.

    La Belle. Most convenient location to where I normally stay. It's a large place and I like the huge viewing area. If you have seen online images, they have a row of sideline girls to your right sitting in barstools and then all of the other girls sitting up on small sofas in stadium seating. It is very well illuminated so you really see all of the girls. The rooms are all very clean, but somewhat needing an update / remodel. The talent is consistently solid and the service in the room is always good. Go in around 5:30 and 6:00 for the best selection. Food is also pretty good with a large menu. Beer is always cold and the servers are quick and friendly. I always tip the papasan generously here. I am a white guy and I have been here enough to know that Asian customers get preferential treatment. I tip generously because when I am ready to pick a girl I want him right there to get her for me. Too many times in years past the girl I wanted to select got picked by an Asian customer because my papasan was attending to his preferred Asian customers. Yes, you can be eyeing a girl and narrowing down your decision. Within seconds, another customer could walk in and immediately pick a girl you wanted to go with. If you are a white guy, tip the papasan generously if you want good service from him and for him to be attentive. Lastly, he can help you with the girl if she is hesitant to go with a white man. He will also tell the girl that you are a very good customer and to give you very good service. Yes, the girls do not want you coming back downstairs and complaining to the papasan about her service. I was told a papasan gets paid 100 TBH each time his customer takes a girl to a room. Seems low to be, but I am from another part of the world. I tip generously here and some might think it's stupid, but good service is important to me.

    Black Caviar. Probably the nicest building, but the viewing area to me is kind of odd unless you are one that is comfortable standing in front of a large group of girls and checking them out. You can also sit on a large sofa and the mamasan will bring over the girls to stand in front of you to select. I think the facilities are very nice here. There are a ton of gorgeous girls here. Go here and you will definitely struggle selecting a girl because they are all so hot. As a causasion American, I did not truly feel as welcome here as La Belle. This may sound odd, but the girls here would rather take an ugly Chinese guy to a room than go to a room with Bradley Cooper or Tom Cruise. Yes, you can anticipate being discriminated here for your skin color. It does not matter what you look like, how you dress, or how wealthy you might be. If you are white, you are NOT their preferred customer. I think the only way to overcome this is to be a regular customer and be super nice and gentlemanly to any girl you take to a room. The night I left on my last visit, the girl I went to the room with gave me a wave goodbye and blew me a kiss in front of all of the other girls. The girls that do not normally like white men will notice how you treat girls you go to a room with and how they react to you.

    Maria Massage. You will be impressed the moment you walk into this building. It's beautiful and grand. The viewing area is okay, but they have large pillars that can block your view. The girls all sit on a really long sofa / bench and you will likely see 100+ girls. The sideline girls are way over on the right side and you need to get up and go over to check them out. To me, the sideline girls are not that much better looking than the other girls, but the prices are steep for these girls. Similar to the other places, you will struggle to select a girl because there are so many beautiful women.

    Tera Entertainment. About a 30 minute drive from the Nana Plaza area, it's a very beautiful building and you will be impressed the moment you enter the driveway. The viewing area is a little unusual. There are dining tables lined up in front of the viewing area and there are sideline girls sitting on stools around the bar to the far left. When I first arrived there were no girls sitting in the viewing area and I almost walked out. The papasan assured me the girls were down the hall for a customer presentation. Sure enough they all came walking back to the viewing area and they were gorgeous. I made a poor selection here due to my impatience. She was cute and was wearing a short leather skirt that looked sexy. I picked her because she just appeared to be a really nice girl and she was, but there were so many other girls much more beautiful. After my session, I sat down for a coffee and contemplated selecting another girl for round two. There were 6-7 that were just my type and gorgeous, but I just didn't have it in me to go for another round. I will say the only really negative was how inattentive my papasan was. I might have gone for round 2 if he was even around to help me select a girl.

    A couple notes of caution. All of these girls will be dressed in beautiful dresses with high heels. The hair, the makeup, the nails, will all be done perfect. When you get the girl back to the room and the dress comes off, do not expect perfection. Some will have tattoos, stretch marks on their tiny Thai butt, smaller boobs, and not look as good close up as she did from a distance. Oddly, Listerine just doesn't mask the bad breath on some girls either. I wish all of the girls were sitting in bikinis or sexy lingerie, but who cares what I think. Lastly, if you are a caucasion man or a man of color, expect to be discriminated upon and not being treated the same as Asian men. I cannot stress this enough. Expect it going in and be happy if you are not. It does not matter how well you are dressed or how much money have, a Chinese or Japanese customer will be treated much better than you. Yes, girls may actually refuse to go to a room with you because you are not Asian. I don't like it, but I accept it because I am in their country. I have been told repeatedly it is not about skin color and it is 100% about penis size. I have been told this so many times by Thai girls I know and trust that I now accept it. A thai girl working in Nana Plaza might be more used to it than a girl working in a soapy where 95% of the customers are Asian men.

  13. #56369

    Technically illegal and Brit bar owners pay to protect Ladyboy street workers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Llantarnam  [View Original Post]
    A mass brawl between Filipino transgender prostitutes and Thai ladyboys over a turf war in Bangkok's red light district?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...w-punches.html
    I just wanted to point out what I feel is continued lazy or perhaps politically motivated reporting by many foreign media outlets and I suppose even some domestic Thai ones regarding the "crime" or not of consenting adults over the age of 18 exchanging money for sex in Thailand.

    In this United Kingdom media report I see it mentioned that prostitution is "technically illegal" in Thailand. If that is true I have yet to see a specific, "technical", literal or implied statement to that effect in the Thai Criminal / Penal Code. Not simply for consenting adults exchanging money for sex, that is.

    Nor have I read about or met anyone in the 12 years I have lived in and around the ground zero Red Light districts of Bangkok who ever got busted and charged for this, imo, non existant "technical" crime in Thailand. Neither a customer nor a provider of the service here. Not even Freelancers who work the street and have never worked in or for a bar, a massage shop, an escort service, etc.

    Even in this report it is asserted that these are Thai and Philippino Ladyboys in front of a hotel on Soi 11, no mention of them working in a bar or being bargirls / barboys working in a bar, engaged in deadly (stilettos involved) violence. Yet they are not arrested for this supposedly "technical" crime of prostitution but only for not having the right visa or work permit to ply their apparently perfectly legal trade.

    Then they go on to explain that away by saying some British bar owners keep the police at bay on this issue through regular payments to them.

    Really? Who are these genius British bar owners that regularly pay the police to leave Philippino Ladyboy Freelancers working the street alone? You know, Freelancer street girls and boys who, if they have prostitutes who actually work IN and FOR those British-owned bars, would only provide competition for the baht that I can only presume those British bar owners would much prefer be spent on their girls rather than on any Thai or Philippino street girls.

    Do British bar owners really pay the cops to leave those Freelancer street workers alone? Why on earth would they do that? LOL.

    The easy, lazy, non researched yet routinely repeated nonsense regarding P4 P in Thailand seem to be crashing into one another willy-nilly in that one report.

  14. #56368
    Quote Originally Posted by ATexGuy  [View Original Post]
    I have been in Bangkok for four evenings and thought I would send out a quick review of my experiences so far..
    For me, the most informative and comprehensively written report in this forum for a long time. Thanks. If you had to rank the high end soapies not based on price but on how much you enjoyed the experience in each (not just time with the girl (s) but facilities etc) what would your ranking be and why. Great report.

  15. #56367
    Quote Originally Posted by Llantarnam  [View Original Post]
    A mass brawl between Filipino transgender prostitutes and Thai ladyboys over a turf war in Bangkok's red light district?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...w-punches.html
    I'm totally devastated that I miss that. I should have been there it would have been the highlight of my life.

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