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  1. #49255
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    What happens if you take both the Pfizer and the Moderna vaccines. Do you get double protection?
    They use the same technology, but probably target somewhat different protein sequences, so if you took one for your first shot, and the other for your second, it might. Might give you more protection. On the other hand it might give you less.

    Just follow the current recommendations. As the data comes in from actual use of these vaccines some of this stuff will become clearer. Either one of these give you great protection.

    There is increasing evidence that delaying the second (booster) shot of any of the two dose vaccines may actually increase their effectiveness. The original sequence was just one of the options that the Phase 3 trials used, but they did not test longer periods because all of these companies, and the whole world, were trying to get through these trials and get effective vaccines. So up to 6 months is now being looked at, and appears to be promising. But not yet the recommended practice as sufficient evidence is not in yet.

  2. #49254
    Quote Originally Posted by TConor  [View Original Post]
    And your immune system may even fight of the 2nd vaccine thinking it is a CV-19 relative.
    Bonehead!

    There is a belief that they want to test that two different vaccines will be better than one. Trials are starting around the world.

  3. #49253

    No way Jose

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    What happens if you take both the Pfizer and the Moderna vaccines. Do you get double protection?
    And your immune system may even fight of the 2nd vaccine thinking it is a CV-19 relative.

  4. #49252
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    What happens if you take both the Pfizer and the Moderna vaccines. Do you get double protection?
    Hearing some casual talk that there's a good chance a third "booster" shot for pfizer / moderna vaccines may end up being a thing to address other variants, or possibly instead just additionally get whatever the then-current J&J vaccine in additional to already having the other vaccines. Would not be surprised if in developed nations, in 2022 you may be able to just walk into a pharmacy and get the latest seasonal version. Not sure how this bodes for developing nations, they may simply have to accept whatever they can manage to get and get people to take and give free reign to tourists from developed nations.

  5. #49251
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Hopefully criminally charged. People should be embarrassed for trying to double up on doses while others likely much needier that they are haven't received a shot. The most disgusting story I have read so far are the 2 Florida women who dressed up as old ladies to get to the front of the line for their shots.
    Haha, That story actually made my boring day more enjoyable.

    The story itself was hilarious when you see the pictures but what was even more bewildering was the fact that these 2 women were trying to get their SECOND shot when they got caught.

    So the real question should be how did they get the 1st shot?

  6. #49250
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    What happens if you take both the Pfizer and the Moderna vaccines. Do you get double protection?
    About the same effect as using two condoms. Doesn't double your protection.

  7. #49249
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    At least in Pattaya most of the Thai bars, discos, lounges, after hour shisha bars don't open or get going until after 11 pm. The 11 pm rule is possibly to control the Thai.

    Nice to hear BKK is opening up again. Road trip time.
    On a side note, some of these FL's must be / have been receiving good support from overseas farangs.

    Had a drink with one FL last night who was actually quite hot, who told me it was only her second day back to "work" (believe it if you want). She was really proud of her brand new iPhone 12 pro max and showed me some of it's features. She also had an expensive hand bag, dressed well and was telling me about how nice her condo is, which for a woman from Issan, sending money back home to support a kid, seems phenomenal.

    I ended up buying her a couple of lady drinks and had some interesting conversations with her. Apparently she has farang contacts all over the west (US, Canada, EU).

    Didn't take her home. Didn't get a quote. Just bought her a couple of lady drinks (quite cheap) and tipped her a small amount for her time. I was upfront with her at the beginning about not wanting to take her home.

  8. #49248
    Quote Originally Posted by Detwing1  [View Original Post]
    Well, on a positive note, most bars seemed to be open last night.

    Checked out Soi 4 and Nana. Open.

    Checked out Thermae. Open.

    Didn't have enough time to go to Cowboy.

    Some decent talent around and not many punters, but everything closes at 11 (apparently the BKK strain of virus only comes out after 11).

    Very few tourists. Mainly guys staying here long term.
    Cowboy go go's Saturday night, many closed, those open had few punters. The only watering hole that was anyway busy was old style music venue Country Road. The clientele as far as I could judge were ex pats who admittedly while not all mostly find the lady drinks hustle, bar fine, 2 K to 3 K ST go go scene a been there done that experience.

  9. #49247
    Quote Originally Posted by Detwing1  [View Original Post]
    but everything closes at 11 (apparently the BKK strain of virus only comes out after 11).
    At least in Pattaya most of the Thai bars, discos, lounges, after hour shisha bars don't open or get going until after 11 pm. The 11 pm rule is possibly to control the Thai.

    Nice to hear BKK is opening up again. Road trip time.

  10. #49246

    Nana

    Quote Originally Posted by Detwing1  [View Original Post]
    Well, on a positive note, most bars seemed to be open last night.

    Checked out Soi 4 and Nana. Open.

    Checked out Thermae. Open.

    Didn't have enough time to go to Cowboy.

    Some decent talent around and not many punters, but everything closes at 11 (apparently the BKK strain of virus only comes out after 11).

    Very few tourists. Mainly guys staying here long term.
    Very vague bud, nana plaza all strip clubs open, or how may bars open more then half or just the bar on ground floor, because I heard some or all open on March 2 or 4th, thanks for any information on! Stay safe have fun!

  11. #49245

    Positive Note

    Well, on a positive note, most bars seemed to be open last night.

    Checked out Soi 4 and Nana. Open.

    Checked out Thermae. Open.

    Didn't have enough time to go to Cowboy.

    Some decent talent around and not many punters, but everything closes at 11 (apparently the BKK strain of virus only comes out after 11).

    Very few tourists. Mainly guys staying here long term.

  12. #49244
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    What happens if you take both the Pfizer and the Moderna vaccines. Do you get double protection?
    Hopefully criminally charged. People should be embarrassed for trying to double up on doses while others likely much needier that they are haven't received a shot. The most disgusting story I have read so far are the 2 Florida women who dressed up as old ladies to get to the front of the line for their shots.

  13. #49243
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    You get scolded for Bogarting the vaccine.
    The last time I got scolded for Bogarting was when I was sharing a joint! Oh the memories.

  14. #49242

    Mixing vaccines?

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    You get scolded for Bogarting the vaccine.

    I can't imagine that anyone has done a meaningful test on that. They are individually 95% effective and they use the same technology.
    The Johnson & Johnson vaccine is a different type of vaccine and may be a good mix with either the Pfizer or the Moderna vaccines according to some scientists. Who can really say?

  15. #49241
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    What happens if you take both the Pfizer and the Moderna vaccines. Do you get double protection?
    You get scolded for Bogarting the vaccine.

    I can't imagine that anyone has done a meaningful test on that. They are individually 95% effective and they use the same technology.

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