Bangkok Reports

[ChiefNigel]

I have always said easy to find a beautiful hot girl, but hard to find a great fuck there. Plenty of mediocre girls and some dick scared ones that seize up. Better to BF at Suzi Wong, and even then choose carefully. E. g. Young mothers are often good fucks. Not too many mothers at CH, I guess, but some.

There are not that many silly cones at CH. The one girl I can remember with sillies and significant tats has straight black hair cut to just reach top of shoulder, acts very sexy indeed. May not be same girl since I don't remember the number and she looks late 20's to me, and not that petite by my standards. 20 YO just not possible, I think. Could it be you are not experienced with Thai girl ages? Or maybe I am very hard on her (if same girl)? Anyway the one I think of is not stunning to me in either face or body. Tastes differ a lot. Some girls with sillies can be nearly invisible to me, so I may well have the wrong girl..

Thank you for taking the time to reply. It very well may be that I'm not guessing her age accurately, and the lighting in CH certainly doesn't make it easy, but I'd be surprised if she was a day over 23. And of course you'll get no arguments from me that reasonable minds will differ on what constitutes a stunning girl, but to me she is one that would stand out in most places.

I'd much rather take my time with a girl as well, but the vibe has to be right, and the best eye candy hasn't come with the best vibes thus far. Unsurprisingly, I've had a much better time with ladies from places other than CH that weren't quite as beautiful in the past few nights.

[ChiefNigel]

On a per transaction basis twice the value is fair. For example a Korean AMP girl in NYC probably cost on average twice as much as an Oil girl in Bangkok. My 5 to 10 times value reference is more focused on the overall P4P lifestyle, and what one one would have to spend in NYC to have the same P4 P lifestyle as many average blokes might have in Bangkok. In NYC as far as I know, there is nothing like even Bier Garden, where half the girls in there are asking you to take them out for 1500 baht as soon as you walk in. Nana Entertainment Plaza bills itself as the 'world's biggest adult playground. " but I think of the entire city of Bangkok that way, and despite a steady decline over the decades, Bangkok still is arguably the most prolific P4 P market in the world. IMHO its really about the "wild card' (unexpected) girl that you ocassionally run into in Bangkok vs the west where it never happens, whether in NYC or London of wherever, where lets say your kissing this very pretty, sweet and somewhat unjaded 19 year old for hours and she's even blushing and then you get this "I have a feeling (I'm) not in Kansas anymore" moment.. .

Understood. I agree that the sheer variety alone sets Bangkok apart, and aside from the specific comparison of dollars spent on gogo's vs. Korean MPs, I can safely say after 5 nights of scientific data gathering that there is nothing remotely comparable to this in NY or anywhere else in the US as far as I know. It gets under your skin quickly.

[Sunlover2]

...the bangkok entertainment dollar is thus far buying me roughly twice what i can buy in nyc. with respect to girls working in the west, or anywhere i imagine, it's ymmv. there are girls in ny for $200-$240 for the hour where both the physical and conversational aspects have been (and hopefully continue to be upon return) gfe and quite satisfying.

you are comparing apples and oranges as go-go clubs are more expensive by definition. if you picked up a dancer in a higher end strip joint in nyc the sky would be the limit price wise.

a better comparison to a nyc korean would be a bkk oil massage shop. if you go one of the popular suk places like snow white / mango / cherry / tulip a pse session with a reasonable attractive young lady will cost you 1900 bht ($60) for one hour and 2300 bht ($72) for two hours. and a quickie bj off of craigslist nyc will set you back $80 - $100 where a visit to bkk [CodeWord901]'s will cost you 800 bht ($25) so the punting prices in thailand are much less no matter how you cut it.

sl.

[Mackin]

I have to agree it sounds like seizing up. Now this might be a great opportunity to come up with the new miracle cure. A pill that makes it seem smaller than what it really is. It could be advertised
with the catchy name Shrinky Dinky. Maybe use the line from TV. But wait If you buy now we will double the order, just pay shipping and handling. Side effect might include rapid heart beats, excessive hip movement, tendency to grab something and urge to put object in mouth. Likely to want to repeat several times in 8 hour
period. Sorry, just my of humor. What the hell is wrong with this posting platform???

[Wolvenvacht]

So now my question. Is it possible for a girl to have spread resistant legs, naturally, I. E. With her muscles in a normal relaxed state for her body construction, such that it would make fucking more difficult and full penetration difficult? I really doubt it. I have to think her mind was clamping the legs. Maybe this is what most guys call starfish, but I call it seizing up or dick-scared.

While nothing is impossible and the catalogue of medical conditions is too long, I have never heard of that problem. Most of the women I have known (in the biblical sense) and especially those in the game, could fold their legs behind their ears and too few of them were 18 year old gymnasts.

It is probably as you say, subconscious seizing up which she mistakes for "muscle tone".

[Samui69]

Nigel,

Yes I am familiar with #50.

Her name is Hratea or something like that, it can even be seen on the back in her neck, which has indeed quite a tattoo.

I took her out on 14 Jan. 2014 the night of the well known BKK shutdown, so she had to stay for a super LT, cause first she could not get home.

I know from a service lady at CH she get a 2 or 3ST's almost every night, but not many repeat customers. And that I understand.

She sure not kiss and she will not suck like a champ, fucking her was good cause she is a real stunner, but do not expect a lot of expertise and experience.

3500ST incl barfine is a little to much, I remember that was my price for this LT. (take her out after 1 am sure) But yours and my miles may vary of course.

Continuing from the last report. The mamasan's sister was a lot of fun the next morning, probably due to the fact that I was sober. Because of the sheer number of choices and only 7 nights, I probably won't repeat, but most definitely would repeat if she were based in NY. I found her to be fairly pretty, quite receptive and physically compatible. In fact, who am I kidding, I may text her later today.

Hit CH again last night looking for the girl that I was initially drawn to on night 2, and as luck would have it, she was there. After mingling with a number of others, I BF'd her and headed home. Her face to me is a combination of Issan and Japanese; very sexy eyes. She is 18 or 19, petite, natural breasts, no tattoos to speak of, and simply cute as can be. Before we started, I could tell that she was inexperienced and that intercourse was going to be a little bit of a challenge. But the eyes seek out what they seek out, and despite seeing a number of other girls that I am sure would have been able to go the extra mile, I had to go with what I wanted..\.

[Syzygies]

Great reports! Sounds you are having fun. But, I honestly, if guys would just pre-negotiate and refuse to take gals who won't kiss and want CBJ, or if they would boot them out with 100 baht in their pockets, they would get the message. Gals only do what guys let them get away with.

Sometimes they kiss okay And were intending to be good, then suddenly get an attack of the stiff legs, that I call seizing up. Nightmares about Anacondas no doubt?

Actually I would like an opinion here. I was trying to spread the legs of one girl enough to make for easy DATy and sex, and her legs seemed awfully stiff. Naturally I asked her to relax and let them go limp, like any "normal" girl. Obviously I have experienced hundreds of normal girls.

She claimed her legs were just that way, muscle toned, and that other guys had not complained about her having stiff legs. Maybe her legs were not stiff when faced with a small dick. LOL. I don't know what was causing it exactly she had been tongue kissing reasonably nicely although I recall her tongue was in slightly strange position (low).

So now my question. Is it possible for a girl to have spread resistant legs, naturally, I. E. With her muscles in a normal relaxed state for her body construction, such that it would make fucking more difficult and full penetration difficult? I really doubt it. I have to think her mind was clamping the legs. Maybe this is what most guys call starfish, but I call it seizing up or dick-scared.

I mean if a girl was quite inactive in sex, but cooperatively relaxed, it would not be a great problem to fuck her. I have a lot more problem with scared or stiff-legged girls that make fucking difficult. So I could not be a ****. It doesn't take a lot of effort for a girl to hinder me badly. The dick goes limp swiftly enough faced with such difficulties, and any sexy feelings also go quite quickly. It seems very easy to distinguish between a girl co-operating with the sex and presumably wanting the guy to want to repeat, and a girl who is dreading it.

Even a girl with no skills whatsoever, who can go with the flow, is possible to be O.K. for me if she has a hot sexy body.

[Goatscrot]

she asked for no kissing on the lips. BJ was condom only, and she simply doesn't have a lot of skill in that department. Sex was very standard, mish and doggie. She did not want to be on top, and was too simply petite for vigorous action, which I didn't insist on as it was apparent that size-wise it was a bit uncomfortable for her (more be / see of her than me I can assure you, although this has been a recurring theme). It was just the experience I expected, which is physically disappointing but visually glorious. Guess I'm a little bit sick like that, as I'd do it again in a second..

Great reports! Sounds you are having fun. But, I honestly, if guys would just pre-negotiate and refuse to take gals who won't kiss and want CBJ, or if they would boot them out with 100 baht in their pockets, they would get the message. Gals only do what guys let them get away with.

[PinkPearl]

Prices at Rainbow 1 have been reduced by 500 across the board.

ST on premise-2 k.

2. St off premise 2500

3. LT 4500

4. Mojie got unsightly implants to go with her belly tatto.

What happened, business down with the military coup & low season, not enough 444 types around? Is R4 discounted too, or is it 3 k ST there? I wonder if things will pick up with the visa free offering to China & Taiwan.

Didn't gogo prices recently go up to 2 k st? And before this "reducing" it was 3 k? So another increase of 50 pc from 2 to 3 K occured recently?

An extra 500 baht to walk across the street to Nana hotel seems excessive. Though perhaps there an extra fee for using a ST room on "premise"?

What are bar fines these days? I assume that's extra & not included in your price list. What about mandatory drinks purchases?

I have a counter offer. How about I pay 10 k st all in for take out. If it's not up to the standard of my regular NCP girls, then it's free. This is a great deal for me, with the 95 pc chance of not having to pay. Although a lousy deal in that it's almost guaranteed to ruin my day.

It seems that this post proves once again that even hotties will take a discount, eh.

[Syzygies]

Incidentally, is anyone here familiar with #50 at CH? She is probably around 20, petite, fake Bs, firm ass with great shape, thin face, and a well-done tattoo covering perhaps 35% of her back. She had plenty of customers' attention last night. To me, she is stunning. The manager quoted 3500 for BF / ST.

Finding a beautiful, petite girl has been easy. Finding one that can fuck and suck like a champ has been a challenge. And the search continues.

I have always said easy to find a beautiful hot girl, but hard to find a great fuck there. Plenty of mediocre girls and some dick scared ones that seize up. Better to BF at Suzi Wong, and even then choose carefully. E. g. Young mothers are often good fucks. Not too many mothers at CH, I guess, but some.

There are not that many silly cones at CH. The one girl I can remember with sillies and significant tats has straight black hair cut to just reach top of shoulder, acts very sexy indeed. May not be same girl since I don't remember the number and she looks late 20's to me, and not that petite by my standards. 20 YO just not possible, I think. Could it be you are not experienced with Thai girl ages? Or maybe I am very hard on her (if same girl)? Anyway the one I think of is not stunning to me in either face or body. Tastes differ a lot. Some girls with sillies can be nearly invisible to me, so I may well have the wrong girl.

It may be possible to get her for less unless in high demand.

I relation to price, the less time you spend with a girl, the less the value. If you wham bam a girl in 15 mins, it will be costly (for the time duration). If you do 90 min ST which is common for me, this will cost well under 35% of cost in home country and under 50% of East European girl costs. If take LT with a Thai girl the cost is many times less than a western country price.

Thai mongering really suits to guys who want to spend extended time with a girl. e.g. Taking a girl away for several days becomes a practical reality although was more prevalent 15 to 20 years ago. 20 years ago, it was much harder to get girls to go away, although even then, a Soapy girl I liked had several boyfriends.

[Mooris7]

I was in BKK last week. Just a few quick things.

1. went to Nana Plaza. Rainbow 4 girls are no longer topless. I think probably because of the tighter rules under the military. Also, the quantity and quality of girls was down compared to before. Rainbow 1 also had fewer girls. But the caveat is that I went quite late, around midnight.

2. before I went to Nana, the night before, two of my friends who are in the movie industry (minor actors) took me to some private club which only sees to be for Thais. There were no girls in the bar when we walked in, but my friends went into the back room and talked to some one and within a five minutes several very hot girls showed up and entertained me for a while. They apparently are actress wannabes. The two who sat with me were both about 168 cm tall with very pretty faces and great bodies. I didn't take any photos, but they did go back to my hotel with me. Yes both of them. Will spare the details because too tired to write.

It only cost me the price of 4 beers. I guess the girls know that I am friends with some of their people in the movie industry so they want to be my friend too. But I was told the girls do moonlight in the p4 p world. I think at some of the higher end soapies.

I have no idea what is the name of the bar we went to. I will find out next time I go, probably next week. It is in Lad Prao, is all I know.

May I ask a question. What was the use of writing this report other than to brag about something. You could have elaborated on some of the details in the few minutes it took you to post.

[Western787]

Hi Western,

I don't wish to quibble with you about buying power, and I'm clearly not an expert in Bangkok after just 4 nights, but comparing what I do in NYC to what I've seen in the gogo's in Soi Cowboy, the Bangkok entertainment dollar is thus far buying me roughly twice what I can buy in NYC. With respect to girls working in the west, or anywhere I imagine, it's YMMV. There are girls in NY for $200-$240 for the hour where both the physical and conversational aspects have been (and hopefully continue to be upon return) GFE and quite satisfying. You have to know where to look and spend a good bit of coin to figure it out, especially if you're going it alone as I have. But once you put together a decent rotation of providers, it's worth the journey.

As for your last sentence, I have no doubt you are correct, and that's why I'm on this site, and while it has accelerated my ability to navigate Bangkok, there is obviously still much to learn, and 7 nights is simply not enough time to learn it. But it won't stop my from trying!

On a per transaction basis twice the value is fair. For example a Korean AMP girl in NYC probably cost on average twice as much as an Oil girl in Bangkok. My 5 to 10 times value reference is more focused on the overall P4P lifestyle, and what one one would have to spend in NYC to have the same P4 P lifestyle as many average blokes might have in Bangkok. In NYC as far as I know, there is nothing like even Bier Garden, where half the girls in there are asking you to take them out for 1500 baht as soon as you walk in. Nana Entertainment Plaza bills itself as the 'world's biggest adult playground. " but I think of the entire city of Bangkok that way, and despite a steady decline over the decades, Bangkok still is arguably the most prolific P4 P market in the world. IMHO its really about the "wild card' (unexpected) girl that you ocassionally run into in Bangkok vs the west where it never happens, whether in NYC or London of wherever, where lets say your kissing this very pretty, sweet and somewhat unjaded 19 year old for hours and she's even blushing and then you get this "I have a feeling (I'm) not in Kansas anymore" moment.. http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=i%3bm+not+in+kansas+anymore&FORM=VIRE7#view=detail&mid=8BDCBE04F68179B1075E8BDCBE04F68179B1075E

While these things won't happen often, in Bangkok such things can and do happen now and then.

[Syzygies]

Is there something going on this week? I tried to make some preliminary bookings and struck out 3 straight times at 3 different facilities; the girls' I asked for all on holiday that week? Or just coincidence.

I like to be able to contact girls directly to find what is really happening. Shop may not really know when girl returns.

[ChiefNigel]

Continuing from the last report. The mamasan's sister was a lot of fun the next morning, probably due to the fact that I was sober. Because of the sheer number of choices and only 7 nights, I probably won't repeat, but most definitely would repeat if she were based in NY. I found her to be fairly pretty, quite receptive and physically compatible. In fact, who am I kidding, I may text her later today.

Hit CH again last night looking for the girl that I was initially drawn to on night 2, and as luck would have it, she was there. After mingling with a number of others, I BF'd her and headed home. Her face to me is a combination of Issan and Japanese; very sexy eyes. She is 18 or 19, petite, natural breasts, no tattoos to speak of, and simply cute as can be. Before we started, I could tell that she was inexperienced and that intercourse was going to be a little bit of a challenge. But the eyes seek out what they seek out, and despite seeing a number of other girls that I am sure would have been able to go the extra mile, I had to go with what I wanted.

On one hand, DATY was very good and she was quite receptive, one the other hand, she asked for no kissing on the lips. BJ was condom only, and she simply doesn't have a lot of skill in that department. Sex was very standard, mish and doggie. She did not want to be on top, and was too simply petite for vigorous action, which I didn't insist on as it was apparent that size-wise it was a bit uncomfortable for her (more be / see of her than me I can assure you, although this has been a recurring theme). It was just the experience I expected, which is physically disappointing but visually glorious. Guess I'm a little bit sick like that, as I'd do it again in a second.

Incidentally, is anyone here familiar with #50 at CH? She is probably around 20, petite, fake Bs, firm ass with great shape, thin face, and a well-done tattoo covering perhaps 35% of her back. She had plenty of customers' attention last night. To me, she is stunning. The manager quoted 3500 for BF / ST.

Finding a beautiful, petite girl has been easy. Finding one that can fuck and suck like a champ has been a challenge. And the search continues.

[ChiefNigel]

In regard to P4 P IMHO each "entertainment" dollar in Bangkok buys you 5 to 10 times NYC equivalent ASSUMING IT EXISTS AT ALL in NYC, which it often doesn't. Sometimes it can be like you're in a dream when you're fortunate enough to run into some of the fresher less jaded girls, somethinggenerally next to impossible in the west.


For guys who only go to Bangkok once in awhile, NYC may not be that much different. But for high frequency Bangkok visitors, Bangkok is a different world.

Hi Western,

I don't wish to quibble with you about buying power, and I'm clearly not an expert in Bangkok after just 4 nights, but comparing what I do in NYC to what I've seen in the gogo's in Soi Cowboy, the Bangkok entertainment dollar is thus far buying me roughly twice what I can buy in NYC. With respect to girls working in the west, or anywhere I imagine, it's YMMV. There are girls in NY for $200-$240 for the hour where both the physical and conversational aspects have been (and hopefully continue to be upon return) GFE and quite satisfying. You have to know where to look and spend a good bit of coin to figure it out, especially if you're going it alone as I have. But once you put together a decent rotation of providers, it's worth the journey.

As for your last sentence, I have no doubt you are correct, and that's why I'm on this site, and while it has accelerated my ability to navigate Bangkok, there is obviously still much to learn, and 7 nights is simply not enough time to learn it. But it won't stop my from trying!