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  1. #33186
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Worse off? Not really. I always make it clear to a girl, if giving a tip beyond the agree price, that I don't tip the same amount every time. Snip
    I doubt that most guys are as careful in explaining their tipping policy to the girl as you are; they probably just hand them the money without explanation or suggestion that it may not be repeated, in that amount, or at all.

  2. #33185

    Regular massage parlor, even numbered soi.

    I am not sharing all the details here, sorry. It just serves as an example of "if you look, you will find".

    I was in a hotel in an even-numbered soi about two years ago. On my way to and from the nearest Skytrain I would regularly walk past a small cluster of ordinary-looking massage parlors.

    You know the kind. Several ladies in their late-20's to late-40's outside, mostly dressed in a sort of uniform, a handful of comfy chairs inside for foot massages and manicures.

    A floor upstairs for Thai massages and. Oil massages. After a couple of days of passing the same handful of shops I had noticed a nice looking but by no account stunning massage therapist in one of these shops. In the end I relented and said "Yes, how about an oil massage". We went upstairs, which was actually two floors up, with 5 "cubicles" for massages. Wooden partitions about 2 meters / 6. 5 ft high, each with a massage bed. I showered and laid down naked on the bed, getting ready for my massage.

    It was a good massage. After about 30 minutes she started teasing me a bit, and I was getting excited. This was at the time she asked me to turn over. We were chatting and having a very pleasant time. Fairly soon after the flip my erection was. Just out there. Nowhere to hide. The lady, whom I had now figured was late-30's and attractive in a plain sort of way, was very playful. She was wearing this uniform which had these traditional Thai trousers held up with a belt made of fabric. I had figured out how the belt worked and yanked at it. Her trousers simply fell to the floor.

    Underneath she was just wearing a very nice black g-string. Somewhat unusual in my experience. This also made me think that more was available. After a few minutes of her oiling up my erect penis and some playful talk I started to gently remove her g-string underwear. It was just a matter of seconds until the g-string was on the floor. Then she sat on top of me, and rubbed her pussy against my hard cock. She was neatly trimmed but not shaved. She was getting really wet as she was grinding herself against me. This must have gone on for ten minutes. I was really enjoying it.

    Suddenly I just slipped inside. She was wet. And tight. And she rode med like I have never been ridden before. It was all the more exciting since there were people getting regular massages in the cubicles next to ours. We had to be quiet. What can I say. I never meant to bareback her but it just happened. And she was in charge all the time.

    So this was two years ago. Since then I have been back numerous times, every 3 or 4 months, most recently two weeks ago. And it's equally exciting every time. A nice, fairly plain looking thai lady with a slim, tight body who was not late 30's but very early 40's. A grandmother.

  3. #33184

    Not Motivated if Paid Well

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolvenvacht  [View Original Post]
    Absolutely and not only the Thai police. But then they will have to raise taxes to pay the police (and other civil servants) a decent wage and that money will also come out of your pocket.
    You are touching on a system tradition of police motivation. They won't enforce the laws if they get paid well. They need to be hungry and need money and then they will do there duty as Police officers. This is true is all SEA countries. You can really see it in Bali, where anytime there is a ceremony or religious holiday coming, the Police are out in force looking for extra money.

    RL.

  4. #33183

    Yes he Does

    Quote Originally Posted by DCups  [View Original Post]
    Kaintuck seems to have handle on that.
    There is one of his models that is very nice, but the rest are great if you enjoy portly ladies. Build for comfort not for speed. I like the athletic body example, swimmer or tennis player type. I do not care for these skinny spinners. Give me something I can dig my teeth into.

    RL.

  5. #33182
    Quote Originally Posted by Riverstar  [View Original Post]
    I used to visit Thailand frequently when I was working in Hanoi and enjoyed myself a lot with girls in their 20's and 30's but now after experiencing some more mature friends I would like to repeat the experience on my next visit to Bangkok. Has anybody and suggestions where its best to look for more mature ladies in their 40's and 50's.

    Thanks.
    Riverstar, you will hit a jackpot in BKK if mature / old ladies is what you are looking for. You can start from Hillary and all other bars on Soi 4 outside NEP. You can than move on to Soi 11 massage places besides Ambassador Hotel. Along the way you can peek into any sportsbar and will find few mature ones hanging around pool tables. Beergarden is another old and favorite spot to find women in the age range you are looking for.

    Queens Entertainment Plaza, cluster of small bars on Soi 22 is full of older women. Also the small bars dotted on the soi hold good potential for you.

    Though the list is almost endless you surely won't be disappointed.

  6. #33181
    Quote Originally Posted by Monsieur1875  [View Original Post]
    Indeed, I'm always quoted 1000 at Nana Park.
    I found one very attractive girl in the Soi (not at the carpark) opposite Hillary 4. She mentioned two prices to me. Seemed to depend on how long the session would be. I gather I would not get two hours for 1 K. She was a lot hotter than most of the girls there. I only found that one that I wanted to talk to, and just collected her number for a future meet, since had just sessioned at Annies and not ready for another round. Was a little hard to check out how good her body was on street with clothes on. So I was slightly concerned in case she had a bigger belly than I imagined, etc. However no worse than picking a girl at over dressed places like Addict MP, for example. Her name appeared to be "Fun" as in good fun, if I heard correctly. I mention the name just in case anyone has tried her. Pretty face. I will probably try her eventually.

    Had to be very watchful for possible LBs in this area. Occasionally hard to tell just by looking at girls sitting down, without seeing them walk and hearing the voice.

  7. #33180
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBoy99  [View Original Post]
    One problem with tipping is that the original price plus the tip becomes the new price of what the girl expects for the service next time. If you don't tip the next time, she will be unhappy, and you will be worse off than if you had never tipped her in the first place.
    Worse off? Not really. I always make it clear to a girl, if giving a tip beyond the agree price, that I don't tip the same amount every time.

    It depends on how hard she had to work for me, how hard she tried, and how much money I have on me at the time. I try to make sure I have plenty of not so large notes so that the tip can be adjusted to fair figure. Even a dumb girl can understand that she might get a different tip for a different amount of work. Some days I take a very long time to cum, but not always. If you think you are forced to tip the same amount each time, then you are being manipulated.

    If original price is fair, I don't need to tip. I don't always tip as a matter of course. It depends. I rarely tip go go bar girls or high priced Soapy girls, but girls getting a low amount at certain shops, like BJ shops, Annies, etc. , I am much more likely to tip for hard work and a good service.

  8. #33179
    Quote Originally Posted by LAGuy5  [View Original Post]
    Snip. Actually, I don't think about tipping in these terms, I just do it when I feel it is appropriate or well-earned, whether we are talking about in the P4 P arena or elsewhere. But if one is talking theoretically about whether a tip after a session could logically serve as a carrot, the answer is "yes" if one plans on returning to the same venue.
    One problem with tipping is that the original price plus the tip becomes the new price of what the girl expects for the service next time. If you don't tip the next time, she will be unhappy, and you will be worse off than if you had never tipped her in the first place.

  9. #33178
    Quote Originally Posted by Kajos  [View Original Post]
    Last couple of times at Nana Car Park I've been quoted for 1000 right away without negotiation. I'm usually there on the later side around 1 am. Last week chose a girl who looked like mid to late 20's, looked mixed-Chinese and said she was from Bangkok and that her name was Lek. Good attitude, great BBBJ and a fun fuck.
    Indeed, I'm always quoted 1000 at Nana Park.

  10. #33177
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    But giving an un-discussed tip afterwards does not work as a carrot since they never knew it was there and had no idea something extra was available to them if they had done this or that or done it better.
    In another thread (or was it this one?) there was a discussion of the amazing memories for customers many of these girls have. Now if you are planning on only going to a particular venue once never to return, you are undoubtedly correct that you don't get anything tangible by leaving a tip after the session. However, if you are going to return to the venue, and this is particularly true of the smaller venues, a tip given to one girl there previously could represent "a carrot" even with a different girl because not only do the girls tend to have good memories, but they talk to each other about their customers.

    Actually, I don't think about tipping in these terms, I just do it when I feel it is appropriate or well-earned, whether we are talking about in the P4 P arena or elsewhere. But if one is talking theoretically about whether a tip after a session could logically serve as a carrot, the answer is "yes" if one plans on returning to the same venue.

  11. #33176
    Quote Originally Posted by Riverstar  [View Original Post]
    I used to visit Thailand frequently when I was working in Hanoi and enjoyed myself a lot with girls in their 20's and 30's but now after experiencing some more mature friends I would like to repeat the experience on my next visit to Bangkok. Has anybody and suggestions where its best to look for more mature ladies in their 40's and 50's.

    Thanks.
    Just go to Pattaya: Beach Road, the Beer Bars on Sois 7, 8, Dainba, Bukhao and Lengkee; Red Car Disco on WS. There is no shortage of these girls. You will be in Paradise.

    Have fun!

    Uncle-V.

    PS: if you are still set on doing your mongering in BKK, Beer Garden will be a gold mine for you. Some of the discos like Bangkok Beat, Levels, Insanity, Climaxx, and Mixx are also full of older ladies. You may also want to stop into Oscar's, the bar/restaurant right across the street form Levels for a place for a mellower more mature vibe. Lots of 40 year olds there too.

  12. #33175
    Quote Originally Posted by Riverstar  [View Original Post]
    I used to visit Thailand frequently when I was working in Hanoi and enjoyed myself a lot with girls in their 20's and 30's but now after experiencing some more mature friends I would like to repeat the experience on my next visit to Bangkok. Has anybody and suggestions where its best to look for more mature ladies in their 40's and 50's.

    Thanks.
    Kaintuck seems to have handle on that.

  13. #33174
    Quote Originally Posted by Riverstar  [View Original Post]
    I used to visit Thailand frequently when I was working in Hanoi and enjoyed myself a lot with girls in their 20's and 30's but now after experiencing some more mature friends I would like to repeat the experience on my next visit to Bangkok. Has anybody and suggestions where its best to look for more mature ladies in their 40's and 50's.

    Thanks.
    Beer Garten or some of the smaller massage shops.

    Social Media or dating sites such as ThaiFriendly.

    BJ bars also seem to have their share of more mature ladies.

    From time to time even an agogo club may have them. They may still look like 35 but are likely to be early 40.

  14. #33173

    Mature Thai Ladies

    I used to visit Thailand frequently when I was working in Hanoi and enjoyed myself a lot with girls in their 20's and 30's but now after experiencing some more mature friends I would like to repeat the experience on my next visit to Bangkok. Has anybody and suggestions where its best to look for more mature ladies in their 40's and 50's.

    Thanks.

  15. #33172
    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    To be honest I don't think corruption will stop if the police gets a decent wage. Lack of means is not the only reason for corruption. The abuse of power will continue.
    A decent wage is a first step, but it will take much more and a few generations to change it.

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