Bangkok Reports

[Bkk212]

Ok so I have been back from BKK after my trip for some fun.

First: about Grace hotel I do agree with another thread about the quality / quantity at Grace hotel. It used to be lined with women not only in the coffee shop but outside on the walkway as well. My trip this time there were very few women in the coffee shop and they were on the low quality side. Outside much less and mostly non-Thai women. Not so long ago you could find a gem in amongst the crowd. It has changed quite a bit. Never was a Patpong scouter so I don't know much about it. However the Nana disco seems to be closed.

Second: I think I made a mistake, two Saturday's ago I was walking down Suk near Thermae café just walking taking in the sights when near the Sheraton hotel I bumped into a person. Very Beautiful, very sexy, nice smile nice body simply a 9. 9/10. So I decided to speak with her, now I am not Caucasian, and for those who lived in Bangkok will understand. But I decided to try and speak with her. And to my surprise she responded and can speak English well. She said that she works in the café, not sure as a worker or a special worker and that she was going home, it was about 2:30 pm. Anyway I asked and got 2. 5 K for short time. Now this is way above going rate, so I said too much. Then she said 2 K but I still declined. After going to my hotel I wondered (and still do) if that was the right decision. It was 2. 5 times the going rate but with my luck I don't often bump into 9's in my life. But I also considered that in Jakarta when you are quoted 2. 5 times the price you decline and move on.

I still think about that encounter to this day, perhaps it would have been worth it. Hopefully now it will only be a memory.

[Smoothy]

That is good news. I stand corrected. I will keep Angola in mind should I ever get tired of SE Asia.

To put it in perspective, I love the girls in Angola, but I never go there for vacation because the country is a shithole. LOL The sad thing is it's absolutely beautiful there, but the infrastructure is crap.

Then again, I have a small cock, so I am good with the Asian girls. It was Syzygies complaining about girls who can't handle a bigger cock that triggered my suggestion of Africa.

[Peroxide]

Contrary to what most users here, I like big fake tits, like the girls I see on the sapphire club YouTube videos (bikini calendar contest). Is there a place where they're more prevalent? If I find one I'll report here.

[EihTooms]

Blast from the past. Strolling through Nana Plaza tonight I noticed a "new" go-go bar on the ground level far left corner by the name of Voodoo. Have I missed this announcement here or am I the first? I did a search on this thread and only one reference to that name came up from late last year when it was mentioned in a recollection from 20 years ago.

Well, I guess it is back. At least the name is back. Girl I bought a LD for said it has been open for 3 weeks already.

Anyway, I popped in at around 9:30 pm and what do ya know but 5 of the 15 girls on stage were stark raving naked except for their high heels. Highly unusual for a Nana Plaza bar. I did not stay long enough to see if the next 15 dancers at the set change would get totally naked. But about half of them went topless right away.

I would say mostly 6's and 7's on stage. Maybe a couple more doable than the rest. I noticed 2-3 LBs, but none of the naked ones were LBs.

The other nice thing I noticed was maybe only 2 or 3 girls in the place showed signs of sillicones. And two of those might have been LBs. Otherwise, there was a refreshing array of natural breasts on display.

Sorry to say I did not inquire about barfine and asking prices. I was really just passing through on my way to another destination. But I saw no reason to expect those things to be more or less than the usual for Nana Plaza. But who knows. LDs were 175 baht I think.

[Member #4698]

If you have never been to Africa, I am curious why you are even commenting. Often there are threads on here where guys post ugly girls, but in reality there are some stunners available in those countries.

I have been to Africa many times and I can tell you there are smoking hot girls there and they are easy to get and not scarce. There is nothing wrong with the quality of girls.

<snip> My favorite place I visited so far in africa was Angola because of the Brazilian type of culture they have there. The nightlife is off the hook and the girls range from pitch black to almost white looking due to the mix they have there from the Portuguese years ago. <snip>

I will admit the black girls I see in Bangkok are basically all dogs, but there are some very black hot girls in Africa.

That is good news. I stand corrected. I will keep Angola in mind should I ever get tired of SE Asia.

[PenName11]

Also, the area right outside of Nana plaza seems to be more crazy then ever. I was approached more aggressively by more girls and lady boys offering a greater variety of things on the menu in a very blatant, no nonsense way than I remembered being the case the last time I had visited. Prices seemed to be between $1000 to $1500 for ST. Does this sound about right?

That seems a reasonable FL price these days. Especially when compared to where pricing is at inside Nana Plaza.

[JohnnieBravo]

I returned recently from a trip to BKK. One thing I noticed which was glaring was the Grace Hotel. It used to be that the Grace Hotel used to be packed full of women (mostly larger women albeit) sitting in the coffee shop lounge area across from the bowling alley. When I was recently there I was shocked to see how empty the place was, even on weekend nights? Did something happen or did these girls move to a different location?

Also noticed that Patpong was extremely toned down. Before it was a bar area with a night bizarre, not it's a night bizarre that just happens to have a few bars. I managed to walk through to whole area without getting any bar touts. Wow.

Also, the area right outside of Nana plaza seems to be more crazy then ever. I was approached more aggressively by more girls and lady boys offering a greater variety of things on the menu in a very blatant, no nonsense way than I remembered being the case the last time I had visited. Prices seemed to be between $1000 to $1500 for ST. Does this sound about right?

Finally, I think the cheapest freelancer price was to be found in Korat. Is this still the case, and if so how much. Many thanks to our more seasoned campaigners for their help and comments.

[Smoothy]

I am not sceptical about the availability of good looking working girls in Africa. I think genuinely attractive & doable professional girls are scarce in Africa unless you are willing to pay large for the quality upgrade. Just take a look at the sample photos posted in the African forums. I occasionally take a look over in the Madagascar & Ethiopia threads. It is pretty shocking quality.

If you have never been to Africa, I am curious why you are even commenting. Often there are threads on here where guys post ugly girls, but in reality there are some stunners available in those countries.

I have been to Africa many times and I can tell you there are smoking hot girls there and they are easy to get and not scarce. There is nothing wrong with the quality of girls. I have always traveled there for work, so I have had a bit of a different view than a tourist. I definitely had more security around me at all times than a tourist would have, but other than Chad and Nigeria, I never felt in any danger. My favorite place I visited so far in africa was Angola because of the Brazilian type of culture they have there. The nightlife is off the hook and the girls range from pitch black to almost white looking due to the mix they have there from the Portuguese years ago. Ivory Coast and Cameroon were a blast. I even had some stunners in Chad, believe it or not. The hottest black girl I have ever been with was in Chad. I hear Ethiopia, Uganda and Senegal are also great, but I have not been to them.

I will say that I did not like Nigeria much, but I was there during the peak of the Ebola breakout so I stuck to just the hotel and office. I was at the Eco hotel and there were always a bunch of hookers near the hotel bar and pool at my hotel, but I didn't find any to my liking that were not snagged by some guys before I had the chance. That being said, some buddies of mine showed me some photos of girls they were doing there in lagos and they were smoking hot.

Ivory Coast may be a good tourist visit. They had a club med there when I was there. But that was out of the city, I stayed in the city. I always thought it was hilarious how many hookers would hang outside the Hotel Ivoire in the Ivory Coast. There had to be a lineup of 100 girls outside the hotel hoping some guy would stroll out there and bring her into the hotel. That hotel also had a casino and a bowling alley. I never sampled one of those girls because the guys in the office used to take me to the more up market discos, but that long lineup was a pretty awesome sight. I haven't been there in many years, so I am not sure if it's still the same.

Africa is much more wild west though than civilized places like Thailand. Although the girls are easy and hot, it's much more of a challenge just getting around.

I will admit the black girls I see in Bangkok are basically all dogs, but there are some very black hot girls in Africa.

[CzarNicholas]

Want to bring a friend for their birthday soon, and would like to show them a cosplay brothel if there is one in BKK? Maybe Pattaya?

I tried google, no luck.

Many thanks.

[Member #4698]

If I wanted cheap girls, I would have moved to Tanzania, Mozambique, Nigeria, etc. But I am sceptical about the percentage of good looking girls there. I have had some nice enough girls from Kenya and Ghana.

Most black girls in Bangkok are not to a doable standard. Met one I really had the hots for in the last 2 years.

I am not sceptical about the availability of good looking working girls in Africa. I think genuinely attractive & doable professional girls are scarce in Africa unless you are willing to pay large for the quality upgrade. Just take a look at the sample photos posted in the African forums. I occasionally take a look over in the Madagascar & Ethiopia threads. It is pretty shocking quality.

Like you I have spotted, on extremely rare occasions, one or two attractive African girls in BKK, but that's all. That cafe latte colored SW from Tanzania that we both encountered on separate nights a few years ago hangin out near Soi Cowboy was very attractive. If memory serves, I think you told me that you took her to a ST hotel, but she wasn't any good in bed. Guess I lucked out not taking her. And last year I met a different, yet extremely attractive SE African FL in Spasso with a similar look, but I passed on her too because I had just had a session with a nice Patpong girl 45 minutes earlier. Those two African girls were the only African girls I have seen in Thailand that I was attracted to in the last 7 or 8 years. The rest were not doable IMHO.

If guys want attractive and sexually satisfying African girls I suggest they go to Rio de Janeiro. Great selection there. And if Caucasian Latinas are of interest, I suggest they go to Sao Paulo, Brazil although be forewarned, the majority of white Sao Paulo hookers come heavily silly coned which is really a shame. IMHO. 555. So, keep it simple: Thailand is for Thai girls, forgetabout Africa, Brazil is hot.

[NemanLion]

I'm guessing "freelancers" are the equivalent of independents in Europe. I'm coming there next week, anyone has good contacts of these "freelancers". You may PM me.

Having read the forums, I think going out to look for them is a bit of a mission and then the other problem of them being a ladyboy!

[Syzygies]

Move to Africa. Those chicks are hot, cheap, and they can easily handle a horse dick with no complaints. You are in the wrong country.

If I wanted cheap girls, I would have moved to Tanzania, Mozambique, Nigeria, etc. But I am sceptical about the percentage of good looking girls there. I have had some nice enough girls from Kenya and Ghana.

Most black girls in Bangkok are not to a doable standard. Met one I really had the hots for in the last 2 years.

If we could reliably find hot girls like Nia Nacci (pornstar), Alexis Avery, Brittney White etc. Then great. I really think that West Indies and South America would be a better bet.

Thermae girls of today are like a different race compared to the wonderful Thermae girls in the 90's. In 1991, the alternative spot to the Thermae was the Grace Coffee shop, but mostly older girls there, so I did not partake much.

Girls are a lot cheaper in Thailand for me now, as I cut back the mongering quite drastically. Only a very few regulars left. I would rather have really good ones, than a lot of fucks.

[Falcon 95]

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[Falcon 95]

As a monger who hunted in Thermae in "the good old days" this post was indeed entertaining. I rarely go there now as it has changed so much. I too am left wondering how many candidates remain for you after all the rules are applied. I think it is good to know what you want. I'm guessing that many BMs here, like me, would be interested in a follow on report about your success ratio there. For my own criteria I had to wonder if the chemistry component is not a factor for you or was just not mentioned. Anyway, it was an interesting read and I think you can tell if you spend much time on this board that you are never very far from Waco.

Yeah, I did not mention the chemistry factor because I felt that was one of the obvious ones. I'm planning a trip to BKK later this year. So will report on any success or failure in the following months.

[Falcon 95]

For me, they nearly always don't perform. Too many are dick scared or Farang scared, too many have restrictions, and I never argue over price. I just don't take girls where I don't think she is worth it, normally.

I have not had a great performing girl from the Thermae for years. Maybe the odd one was semi-acceptable but not worth repeating. Not even easy to get my first choice girl. Most of those knock me back, start talking about Farang surcharge, or were already snapped up by a Jap very fast.

I have better luck with the girls on Soi 4 who are preferring Farangs (even there is easy to choose wrongly). Just unfortunate that most Soi 4 girls are not doable. However less money wasted if make the wrong choice. The big danger is girls with disaster bellies or looking for a 30 min quickie. This is the same at both Thermae and Soi 4, however Soi 4 probably has a bigger chance to encounter a disaster body.

I believe what you say because you sound very sincere. But not the previous fellow who thinks he is god's gift to Thai women.