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03-02-19 17:43 #44006
Posts: 5638Originally Posted by Catire [View Original Post]
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03-02-19 17:20 #44005
Posts: 203Final BKK Report. Couple of Independents
Not sure where to post the first one, she was on Smooci but the Smooci thread seems more related to issues with the service / app vs. Reviews so I'll leave a review here. I dunno why but I feel partial to independents, so I focused my searching there. I bought a subscription a couple weeks before arriving so I could read reviews and do some research that way. I saved a bunch of profiles but sadly by the time I got here most of them hadn't been online for a while. But a few were. I loved the photos of a girl called Methys, but honestly I was a bit hesitant because her rates are so low, and she only had a handful of reviews. The reviews were mostly positive, but still I had a bit of hesitation. Anyway overcame that and booked her for a two hour session the first or second night in town, and I couldn't have been happier. She is LOVELY. Very pretty, very sensual, fantastic natural body, all services as described. She even wanted to stay over LT for the 2 hour rate (in fact we fell asleep for a couple hours together), but I just can't sleep well with girls in the room so I somewhat reluctantly called it a night. I'm still slightly regretting that. Probably would have been worth it to get a bad night's sleep and enjoy some good morning sex with her. I was hoping to see her again before I left, but you know how it goes. Too many options, not enough time!
Second girl was a pickup from Thermae my last night in town. I stopped in there briefly the first night I got here. Had it on my list as a good prospect because I truly love picking up independents from bars. But it's such a weird place, that first night I walked in, drank my beer quickly, and just walked back out. I couldn't get comfortable with it for whatever reason; I guess I was hoping for a spot to just sit down, drink a beer or two, and chat up a few ladies. Thermae is definitely not that place! But when I went back I was in a better head space as I knew what I was in for. I hung out a bit, tried to avoid laps and find a spot in the middle, and just took in the action for a half hour or so. Eventually I spotted a very pretty girl who seemed a bit of an outlier to the rest of the crowd, so a quick chat, quick negotiation (2500 offer, countered 2000 and accepted, but ended up tipping her the +500 anyway), and we were on our way. Back at the hotel she was wonderful. No BBBJ sadly, but while CBJ for sure is not my preference, I much prefer a good wet pussy to a wet mouth so no big deal. And wet she was. Multi orgasmic, super passionate, DFK, all in all probably a tie with Methys for my best evening of the trip. I got her number and will for sure call her if / when I'm back in town.
I also spent a couple hours the last night at Beer Garden, it's a weird spot but it kind of grows on you. One thing I dislike is that I felt tied to my spot at the bar because of the ticketing system. Maybe that's just me and there's a workaround, but I felt I had to close out my bill to move to another spot near a lady I fancied. Turns out nothing transpired there anyway, but for guys like me who prefer MILFs to 19 year old Bar girls, it's fertile hunting ground. And there definitely were at least a couple stunners there; one already occupied and got taken out shortly after I arrived, the other who caught my eye was sitting just a couple seats away but seemed disinterested the few times I tried to make eye contact and smile. Then of course when I paid my bill and got up to leave she asked where I was going so soon, but by that time, I was committed to checking out Thermae so. See'est la vie. I also really liked the music (and the fact that it's not so loud to blast our your ear drums), but it's too damned hot in there.
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03-02-19 17:07 #44004
Posts: 784Spot on
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
SL.
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03-02-19 16:13 #44003
Posts: 5428Originally Posted by Siamsin [View Original Post]
This is similar to the temporary closure of a couple of famous BJ Bars in the area a few years ago. As I understood it, they weren't closed because there was an exchange of sex for money going on. It was because the girls sitting outside were too aggressive in shouting out what was on offer, publicly promoting the business, when potential customers passed by. For a while afterwards they only mimed and whispered what was on offer as potential customers passed by. lol.
Section 8.
Any person who, in order to gratify the sexual desire of oneself or another person, has sexual intercourse with or acts otherwise against a person over fifteen but not over eighteen years of age in a prostitution establishment, with or without his or her consent, shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of one to three years and to a fine of twenty thousand to sixty thousand Baht.
If the offence under paragraph one is committed against a child not over fifteen years of age, the offender shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of two to six years and to a fine of forty thousand to one hundred twenty thousand Baht. If the act under paragraph one is committed against one's own spouse, and not to gratify the sexual desire of another person, the offender is not guilty.
That last sentence seems to be assuring us that it is not against the law to have sex with your spouse even if he or she isn't into it UNLESS it is done to provide sexual gratification for someone else. A third party getting off on watching you have sex with your disinterested spouse who does not want to play along? Ok.
Section 9.
Any person who procures, seduces or takes away any person for the prostitution of such person, even with her or his consent and irrespective of whether the various acts which constitute an offence are committed within or outside the Kingdom, shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of one to ten years and to a fine of twenty thousand to two hundred thousand Baht. If the offence under paragraph one is committed against a person over fifteen but not over eighteen years of age, the offender shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of five to fifteen years and to a fine of one hundred thousand to three hundred thousand Baht.
If the offence under paragraph one is committed against a child not over fifteen years of age, the offender shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of ten to twenty years and to a fine of two hundred thousand to four hundred thousand Baht. If the offence under paragraph one, two or three is committed by means of fraud, deceit, threat, violence, exercising undue influence or coercing against her or his will in any manner whatsoever, the offender shall be liable to heavier penalty than that provided in paragraph one, two or three by one third, as the case may be.
Any person who, in order to bring about prostitution, admits a person known to him or her as having been procured, seduced or taken away under paragraph one, two, three or four, or supports the commission of such offence shall be liable to the penalty provided in paragraph one, two, three or four, as the case may be.
Would love some interpretations from you and other guys regarding the above, particularly section 9.
"takes away" and "admits" seems to be about removing someone (but not necessarily forcibly) from one location and taking them to another location in order to impose that undue pressure. The girl (person) is taken away from home or safety. They might reasonably conclude they MUST cooperate or they will not be released or allowed to leave and so on. And in that case, even the person who "admits" or harbors the procurer and his presumably less than enthusiastic prey can be held criminally liable.
Could the term "seduces" be construed by a clever and motivated prosecutor to include promising a girl a lifetime of love, happiness and financial security if she hops in bed for a 1,000 baht vs a 2,000 baht ST tonight? Give that possibility some serious consideration in your negotiations, fellas. DON'T over promise for a "future reward". lol.
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03-02-19 12:29 #44002
Posts: 1575Using e-cigarettes in Thailand
Here is an article about a French lady getting deported after being detained for being in possession of a vaping device.
https://news.lovepattayathailand.com...ed-for-vaping/
Careful folks. Siamsin you got away lightly, thank your stars.
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03-02-19 12:18 #44001
Posts: 188Originally Posted by Catire [View Original Post]
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03-02-19 11:26 #44000
Posts: 662Here's an update from the cumstained keyboard in my mother's basement!
Not.
Tinder girl (fairly clear from profile she hooks).
32 - but looks good / fine to me (actually have had excellent success with young Thai milfy types, my sexual experiences in this age group have completely blown away young bargirl experiences).
In very short order. Was quoted 2000 baht, "do anything you want, but no ass" BBFS encounter with a money back guarantee (here's something you don't see very often)!
(the BBFS was not offered as such, I inquired about it based on certain provisions, and these were agreed to)
". 2000, if not good, I not take your money ok".
Of course she's looking to see me today / tonight (as are many such girls, looking for immediate customer (s). But I'm a little busy at the moment so shall not commit.
Will leave this one on the backburner for sometime next week.
I think 2 K-2. 5 K short times with no clockwatching are fairly easy to obtain in BKK through something like Tinder.
(and I'm willing to pay slightly higher "farang" prices. Because usually there is at least a communicative level of English spoken on her part and familiarity / comfort with farang sexual preferences.
As always your mileage may vary.
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03-02-19 10:40 #43999
Posts: 662Originally Posted by Siamsin [View Original Post]
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03-02-19 10:24 #43998
Posts: 203Soi Cowboy / Nana Plaza Bar Review
I've been trying to get a feel for Nana Plaza vs. Soi Cowboy, so last night I started drinking in Soi. I hit five bars. I was there relatively early, around 8/8:30.
Doll House.
Unremarkable.
Baccara.
Showed promise in terms of dancers but it was completely packed with Asian guys, no place to even squeeze in and sit down; oddly I don't recall seeing any girls with any of the guys.
Tilac.
Seemed to have a good variety of girls in terms of size / shape, and I liked that there doesn't seem to be a "standard" uniform for the girls, but the girls all seemed very bored and disinterested.
Shark Bar.
Unremarkable.
Spice Girls.
Just bizarre. No customers, and the girls were all hooting and shrieking for some reason. Turned around and walked right out!
It was only the second time I've been to SC, and I have to say I really don't care much for it. I prefer Nana Plaza for whatever reason, so that was my next stop. Last night I only hit three bars there:
Rainbow 3.
Smelled like farts, so again turned around and walked right out.
Spanky's.
2nd best bar in Nana, IMO. Decent shows, decent selection of girls (despite my poor choice later in the evening), and nice / friendly waitresses.
Angel Witch 2.
By far my favorite. Best selection of dancers, and I love that they seem to be slightly on the more curvy / womanly side than the skinny toothpick-legged girls who make up the majority of dancers at most of the gogos, best outfits, best music, and best shows. Last night the shows were decent, but the night prior there was some kind of special party going on where they gave dudes sitting at the bar ponchos, which were needed for the main event. There were dildos, chocolate sauce, honey, beer bottles going places they shouldn't (and guys chugging the beer after! Etc. I thought that kind of thing was illegal nowadays but who knows; it was a sight to behold though.
I did hit a few other bars in Nana Plaza the night of the beer bottle show at AW2, but tbh after a while they all blend together. None stood out as particularly worth visiting again vs. The others.
I ended the night with a cold fish from Spanky's. I have no idea why I even chose her, and I wanted to back out as soon as I saw her in street clothes but I figured by then it was too late and I was a little bit afraid of getting my ass beaten by the big Samoan-sized Mamasans! In retrospect I don't know why I didn't walk next door and pick one of the AW2 girls before I even proposed taking her out, but in the end, the deed got done and the damage wasn't too bad, so I guess I can't call it a complete waste of time / money.
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03-02-19 10:02 #43997
Posts: 68Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Maybe we can analyze the Laws here, and finally get some clarity.
Section 5.
Any person who, for the purpose of prostitution, solicits, induces, introduces herself or himself to, follows or importunes a person in a street, public place or any other place, which is committed openly and shamelessly or causes nuisance to the public, shall be liable to a fine not exceeding one thousand Baht.
Section 6.
Any person who associates with another person in a prostitution establishment for the purpose of prostitution of oneself or another person shall be liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one month or to a fine not exceeding one thousand Baht or to both. If the offence under paragraph one is committed on account of compulsion or under an influence which cannot be avoided or resisted, the offender is not guilty.
Section 7.
Any person who advertises or agrees to advertise, induces or introduces by means of documents or printed matters, or by any means makes known to the public in a manner apparently indicative of importunity or solicitation for the prostitution of oneself or another person shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of six months to two years or to a fine of ten thousand to forty thousand Baht or to both.
Section 8.
Any person who, in order to gratify the sexual desire of oneself or another person, has sexual intercourse with or acts otherwise against a person over fifteen but not over eighteen years of age in a prostitution establishment, with or without his or her consent, shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of one to three years and to a fine of twenty thousand to sixty thousand Baht.
If the offence under paragraph one is committed against a child not over fifteen years of age, the offender shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of two to six years and to a fine of forty thousand to one hundred twenty thousand Baht. If the act under paragraph one is committed against one's own spouse, and not to gratify the sexual desire of another person, the offender is not guilty.
Section 9.
Any person who procures, seduces or takes away any person for the prostitution of such person, even with her or his consent and irrespective of whether the various acts which constitute an offence are committed within or outside the Kingdom, shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of one to ten years and to a fine of twenty thousand to two hundred thousand Baht. If the offence under paragraph one is committed against a person over fifteen but not over eighteen years of age, the offender shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of five to fifteen years and to a fine of one hundred thousand to three hundred thousand Baht.
If the offence under paragraph one is committed against a child not over fifteen years of age, the offender shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of ten to twenty years and to a fine of two hundred thousand to four hundred thousand Baht. If the offence under paragraph one, two or three is committed by means of fraud, deceit, threat, violence, exercising undue influence or coercing against her or his will in any manner whatsoever, the offender shall be liable to heavier penalty than that provided in paragraph one, two or three by one third, as the case may be.
Any person who, in order to bring about prostitution, admits a person known to him or her as having been procured, seduced or taken away under paragraph one, two, three or four, or supports the commission of such offence shall be liable to the penalty provided in paragraph one, two, three or four, as the case may be.
Would love some interpretations from you and other guys regarding the above, particularly section 9.
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03-02-19 09:25 #43996
Posts: 68Originally Posted by Catire [View Original Post]
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03-02-19 08:45 #43995
Posts: 662Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste [View Original Post]
I wrote up a Thai girl report 2 days ago. I will be deep inside a Thai tonight. (and my history as a Senior Member on this forum speaks for itself)
Ok. So let's clear the air.
Siamsin. Thank you for posting a report with your emotional aspects involved, even if I found myself wondering about certain aspects of it.
Obviously I am not privvy to what you may / may not have discussed with the girl prior to spending time with her.
The ONLY thing I ask is this (and unfortunately, it's too commonly lacking in at least some reports posted on this forum).
Treat the girl with RESPECT.
That's all I ask. Respect as a human being, first and foremost, and if lacking that, then respect on the pure transactional angle.
Nothing more.
Too many "first class 'mongers'" do not. For them, they have purchased an orifice, or an assortment of them, to do with as they please. If I mischaracterized you, then I apologize.
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03-02-19 06:55 #43994
Posts: 1283Rambling advice and reports.
Well you guys fight it out.
Anyway, I'm heading back home next month after a glorious fall and winter in Thailand. High season is over and this place is going to slow down right after Songkhran. Thus, I have been hitting the venues a bit more, since Ill have a few month dry spell back in Blighty till I come back.
Here is a report up to Friday, March 2. Its for you guys heading over, not those who stay here.
About half of the sidewalks are back on Lower Suk so walking is easier. The African girls are at the street bars / food near Subway, there was one there last night that was killer looking. The viagara is under wraps on the tables or up the sleeves of shady characters. The street bars are slowly creeping back. There is still a lot of construction.
The hookers down Suk last night were pretty rough, there was a stretch of hotties near Thermae but they are ladyboyish. The ones in front of Nana were meh, three of them have been there since September.
I don't really do GoGos so sorry, nothing to say. I think they are a tourist thing. Look at it this way: You are going to go in. Buy a drink 150 B. See a lady. Buy her a drink, or two. 300 B. Barfine her. 1000 b. ST room 300 B. ST 3000? You are at a 5 K bill before you know it. You do get to see their tummy though. Me, I just go to Thermae or Mixx and do the going rate.
Thermae was China packed and I even got into a tiff with a Chinese guy. I won. He whinged. He kept bumping into me as we ambled in the circuit, finally I turned to him and said "Whats your hurry, its not like there is nothing to fuck here", but he didn't speak English. He knew though, but was so eager to RUN around the circuit (dude, ya never seen wall to wall Asian pussy before? That he bumped me again near the back entrance so I sort put him on the ground. The girls had no idea what to do. "NO PUSH", "NO PUSH", then a Blue Jacket comes over (they all know me by sight at a minimum) and smoothed things out, China Baa! Eee Kwai push push! OK? OK? Bye.
There was some decent talent last night, and rather than head to Mixx to drop 5-10 K, I found me a tiny cute little one (maybe 40 kilos and tiny) that I short timed at the Miami (I gave her 3 K), excellent, and saved some money. Got her Line as always.
By the way, the ST hotels pay the girls a commission. Most at Thermae will steer you to the Miami where an ST room is 700 and I think the girls get 100. Its all good.
Food advice: if you brave the Burkhas and walk down to Bamboo on Friday nights, they have Plov, its nomnom. 24 hours too. CIS girls usually there at 4 am ish.
Taxi advice: I live about 11 km from Nana Plaza. It never costs me more than 130 ish baht to get home depending on traffic. Don't bother asking ANY of the dudes just stopped and hanging around. Just walk in the direction you want to go but away from action and hail a driving one.
Asoke: I don't know if there was Police Action there last night because I stay away. I saw action there Thursday. I understand they have been playing the [CodeWord140] test game though regularly and young falangs in Cabs are targets. So if you are from a legal venue in the USA, ID quit 30 days before a trip or avoid Asoke area in a cab. Thong Lo the same. ID even avoid walking to and from Soi Cowboy, or maybe even the area all together. I have notice a lot more cops down there over the past few months. With the good herb being mainstreamed, a source of income for the BIBs will dry up, so expect strict enforcement for the next few months. Remember: [CodeWord140] blue, sucks to be yooooooou, just ask quietly and politely if the matter can be settled out of court. I heard 50 K is the rate. Anyway, I confine myself to the Thermae / Nana area plus I look old and rachet so never have a problem, which is great because I can duck down to dark alleys and play Cheech and Chong.
Mixx has been hopping with some fine CIS girls. That has generally been my once a week stop as it is close to my crib.
The street girls on SS 11 have been looking better, but there are Ladyboys in the mix.
Insanity and Levels have been mediocre. I was at Shock 39 recently, no offense to my friends from India, but it looks like Mumbai in there. However, some very exotic looking girls for those of you who have a bucket list.
If you are a tourist, you have no reason to be there, but there are some hotties in the Thai Bars in Saphan Kwai and Thonburi.
For those of you planning trips, keep in mind that everything you read about girls and bars changes daily.
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03-02-19 05:34 #43993
Posts: 1575Originally Posted by Siamsin [View Original Post]
Wait it you start getting hate mail on PMs.
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03-02-19 04:29 #43992
Posts: 279Great FR, amd excellent pics. Do you set your phone to video setting, or what's the trick?
I agree with others that some of the word choice sounds more aggressive than I'm comfortable with, but I also know that fucking is an animalistic act and let's face it, sometimes a rough session can be as pleasurable for her as it is for you / me. You've explained that the CIM was discussed, she just wasn't prepared for it. ED pills do that to me sometimes as well: keeps the rod veryhard but can surpress the ability to cum. What I find funny is when I do unload, and Johnny stays hard, my TG is always a little confused whether I actually finished or not.
I also didn't know vaping was illegal. Is that because they think it's a delivery device for controlled substance, or it threatens Thai Tobacco?
Thanks again for the great FR. Glad you wormed your way out of the bit wih the men in brown.
Originally Posted by Siamsin [View Original Post]