Bangkok Reports

[Syzygies]

I decided to spend my vacation in Crazy House. I got charged different ST rates, 3500 for most girls but 2500 for my second of four. Is that normal? Or am I beng a sucker? I'm not very experienced and I think the mamasan can tell.

Mamasan Tang took the 2500 and no commission but the other times I've dealt with Paar who always took 3500ST and a minimum 200 for herself. She took 900 with the fourth girl. Yes 900. It was a slow night due to the bombing. The total was 5000 for one ST.

Short version.

First night I took 55 and later another girl whose number I didn't see. Both girls OK. Second night I didn't barfine anyone but ran up an unreasonable bar bill. Third night number 4. She's OK but her friend 14 is a pain in the ass and totally put me off repeating with 4. Fourth night I had the pole dancer. Sorry I didn't notice her number as I was busy looking at other things. Identifiable by tits like two small zeppelins in a nose dive.

Warning: do not take the pole dancer if you are over 50, under 25, have a weak heart, aren't familiar with the Karma Sutra, or are not athletic and single. She will leave marks and scars on you because she bites, scratches, and can slap like an angry hockey player. If she doesn't kill you then all future sex will be boring in comparison. You have been warned.

Long version.

I didn't take long to spot number 55. She has a slow and sensual way of dancing and working her butt. Sexy! She is one of the girls who dances clothed if you call a belt and no knickers clothed. I like it because the when she's on down on all fours rotating her butt round and up, you get a slow of reveal of sweet home Alabama. Nice! I think she dances clothed because her breasts are small and not that firm. I don't think she likes them much. But that's ok because in missionary I just looked at her face. She has high cheekbones which I think make her very pretty. She has a wide smile and long natural black hair. I prefer from nature to from bottle.

55 likes DATY. Well she does now! CBJ because she likes to play safe which is fair enough. She is quiet in bed. Not a starfish just quiet. If you can hear her breathing then she's probably having an orgasm. Good girl to have in a library just don't take her back overdue because the fine will be astronomical if you get the wrong mamasan.

I'm still convinced 55 said ST was 2500. Mamasan Paar charged me 3500 and then helped herself to another 200 tip before giving me my change. Thank you for not asking it saved some time. She had also rounded up my drinks bill from 320 to 400. Yes business is good thank you. The total was nearly 5000. I'm surprised she didn't round it up to that. I didn't say anything because I am a new customer there and want to make a good impression. I think maybe I showed I am an easy target. More important I didn't want to spoil my short date with 55 and her dancing butt.

Paar is the thinnest of the three mamasans. She wears her hair tied up on top a bit like a pineapple I guess. I'm not an expert on ladies hair styles names. As long as their hair is long and not too phony then that's all I need to know.

I took 55 back to the club afterwards so she now think I'm a gentleman. This is now the official reason why I went back and not at all because I wanted to check out the opposition. 55 went up in the elevator to change and I turned to leave by walking the long way round slowly. I was on my second loop because I missed my exit first time when they announced show time upstairs. I had to see. Be rude not to.

There was some kind of lotion and candle dripping. That was a bit boring and one of the girls spent a few minutes scraping and spitting the dried wax off her tongue. Putting it there may have looked a little sexy but removing it did not. The body painting was good but Suzy Wong's artist is much more spectacular. Suzy Wong seems to have a minimum width for its girls as well as a minimum age so their artist has more canvas to work with. The soap show at Crazy House was fun. The soap gets everywhere. Take care if you are sitting in the front row. I think that's the cleanest my shoes have been in a long time. I would like to go back whenever my shoes need cleaning.

I can't remember the number of the second girl I took that first night. Maybe she wasn't wearing it or maybe I was too busy looking at her breasts. They are easy to spot. I was trying to guess whether they were natural or not. I'm not very experienced at this kind of activity and I was a bit shy about groping her in public. After all I was now officially a gentleman and official gentlemen don't do that sort of thing. I didn't mind because the investigation was something to look forward to. Also she was holding my wrists and putting my hands where she wanted. I liked that.

Second girl bumped into me as I was wiping the last of the soap off my shoes. Oops. She apologized but as I was now official gentleman I had to buy her a drink to say sorry. A warning about Crazy House lady drinks. A double lady drink lasts the girl about 10 seconds.

This time I got mamasan Tang. She's the middle sized one of the three and quite nice. Her son works in the bar too. Family business! She took my second barfine that night at 2500 and didn't ask for commission. I gave her 100 tip and she looked disappointed so I gave her another 100. I had been saving that one for the waitress but I figured I was still about 1000 up on the previous deal and Tang was more polite and friendlier than Paar. Yes I did tip the waitress too but it had to be the 80 left over from my bar bill. Tang didn't round it up to make the math easier.

I'll put third and fourth nights in another post.

I don't know the names of mamasans. I don't get involved with them. The fat one is particularly to be avoided for me. Never really met the middle sized one who maybe a recent addition. I do not pay in advance. Just only the barfine 700. Mamasan may get a 100 tip. Mamasan has nothing to do with money paid to the girl. So you probably got suckered by mamasan at a guess. 2500 is a realistic price for many of the better looking girls. Some not so special may go cheaper. I have heard of girls wanting 3000. They may come down to 2500 depending if desperate to pay the rent or what. May not come down if have too many customers but it depends on how busy is the night. I only ever paid 3000 for one or two of the hottest girls that ever worked there. One name was Nat. Had amazing figure including natural high CtoD cups. Very pretty. Was a good session so I was not sorry. She is no longer there. Many girls did not even specify a price with me since I am a well known regular. So I could then pay as I saw fit based on how amazing she was or not.

Lets be clear though. Barfine is 700. If mamasan takes 900, that means she takes a 200 Baht tip above the barfine price. Your price numbers are confusing. I can't say I understand when you are including barfine and when not.

You can buy girls a single drink. That is all you have to buy for a 20 minute period when she is not dancing. No obligation to do more. I tend to do more mainly due to entertaining more than one girl till I decide which one I want to barfine, or simply if they are my favourite girls I like to have sit on my lap.

Girl make commission from drinks. So don't have to give massive cash tips as well. 100 tip is OK if you want to give a tip for no particular reason. I don't ever give mamasan more than 100 tip. She hasn't had to do any work for me. The barfine was already given. Everything was already decided between me and the girl. I get more respect from staff because I speak Thai and am a regular. They know I can't be manipulated much. I hate any girl that keeps pleading for drinks too often or any uninvited and will send them away. I like girls who are nice and cool and respectfully request a drink but don't overdo it. I take time to pick girls and then call them over with a wink, or if they never look at me, send waitress to tell the girl dancing, I will buy her a drink.

No clue who your girls were. Right now I don't remember No. 50. Bad with numbers. Names are hard enough. Strange you can name mamasans but not the girls.

So next time ask the girl directly for a short time but make sure she understands not to call the mamasan over. Make sure she understands you do not pay in advance. If mamasan comes, just pretend you have not yet decided to BF anyone yet. Send her away. I never had to negotiate with a mamasan in any bar.

I would have thought mamasan should be there to assist only if guy and girl cannot communicate with each other. However I do notice mamasan getting involved moderately often at Crazy House. I always assumed it was due to the guy wanting to pay the girl a much lower amount that what she is willing to go for. Like girl wants 2500 and guy wants to pay 1500. However these assumptions could have been wrong. Also some customers are treated with suspicion about whether they will pay the agreed amount at the end of the deal.

You should do a lot more variety until you get experienced, although I have to admit Crazy House has better looking girls. Pity I was not around to help you out. If was only a week or two ago, perhaps I was there some days. Did you ever see some Farang downstairs entertaining up to 3 girls on occasions. Could be me. LOL.

[Somewhere15]

For the folks that is already in BK, in your opinion, how safe is it to travel to BK with the recent news coming out of BK? That's 3 bombs in 2 days?

Slightly more safety here but overall its live as always. Enjoy your fun and don't get histeric nor panicking. Lives goes on.

[Charles Dickin]

I decided to spend my vacation in Crazy House. I got charged different ST rates, 3500 for most girls but 2500 for my second of four. Is that normal? Or am I beng a sucker? I'm not very experienced and I think the mamasan can tell.

Mamasan Tang took the 2500 and no commission but the other times I've dealt with Paar who always took 3500ST and a minimum 200 for herself. She took 900 with the fourth girl. Yes 900. It was a slow night due to the bombing. The total was 5000 for one ST.

Short version.

First night I took 55 and later another girl whose number I didn't see. Both girls OK. Second night I didn't barfine anyone but ran up an unreasonable bar bill. Third night number 4. She's OK but her friend 14 is a pain in the ass and totally put me off repeating with 4. Fourth night I had the pole dancer. Sorry I didn't notice her number as I was busy looking at other things. Identifiable by tits like two small zeppelins in a nose dive.

Warning: do not take the pole dancer if you are over 50, under 25, have a weak heart, aren't familiar with the Karma Sutra, or are not athletic and single. She will leave marks and scars on you because she bites, scratches, and can slap like an angry hockey player. If she doesn't kill you then all future sex will be boring in comparison. You have been warned.

Long version.

I didn't take long to spot number 55. She has a slow and sensual way of dancing and working her butt. Sexy! She is one of the girls who dances clothed if you call a belt and no knickers clothed. I like it because the when she's on down on all fours rotating her butt round and up, you get a slow of reveal of sweet home Alabama. Nice! I think she dances clothed because her breasts are small and not that firm. I don't think she likes them much. But that's ok because in missionary I just looked at her face. She has high cheekbones which I think make her very pretty. She has a wide smile and long natural black hair. I prefer from nature to from bottle.

55 likes DATY. Well she does now! CBJ because she likes to play safe which is fair enough. She is quiet in bed. Not a starfish just quiet. If you can hear her breathing then she's probably having an orgasm. Good girl to have in a library just don't take her back overdue because the fine will be astronomical if you get the wrong mamasan.

I'm still convinced 55 said ST was 2500. Mamasan Paar charged me 3500 and then helped herself to another 200 tip before giving me my change. Thank you for not asking it saved some time. She had also rounded up my drinks bill from 320 to 400. Yes business is good thank you. The total was nearly 5000. I'm surprised she didn't round it up to that. I didn't say anything because I am a new customer there and want to make a good impression. I think maybe I showed I am an easy target. More important I didn't want to spoil my short date with 55 and her dancing butt.

Paar is the thinnest of the three mamasans. She wears her hair tied up on top a bit like a pineapple I guess. I'm not an expert on ladies hair styles names. As long as their hair is long and not too phony then that's all I need to know.

I took 55 back to the club afterwards so she now think I'm a gentleman. This is now the official reason why I went back and not at all because I wanted to check out the opposition. 55 went up in the elevator to change and I turned to leave by walking the long way round slowly. I was on my second loop because I missed my exit first time when they announced show time upstairs. I had to see. Be rude not to.

There was some kind of lotion and candle dripping. That was a bit boring and one of the girls spent a few minutes scraping and spitting the dried wax off her tongue. Putting it there may have looked a little sexy but removing it did not. The body painting was good but Suzy Wong's artist is much more spectacular. Suzy Wong seems to have a minimum width for its girls as well as a minimum age so their artist has more canvas to work with. The soap show at Crazy House was fun. The soap gets everywhere. Take care if you are sitting in the front row. I think that's the cleanest my shoes have been in a long time. I would like to go back whenever my shoes need cleaning.

I can't remember the number of the second girl I took that first night. Maybe she wasn't wearing it or maybe I was too busy looking at her breasts. They are easy to spot. I was trying to guess whether they were natural or not. I'm not very experienced at this kind of activity and I was a bit shy about groping her in public. After all I was now officially a gentleman and official gentlemen don't do that sort of thing. I didn't mind because the investigation was something to look forward to. Also she was holding my wrists and putting my hands where she wanted. I liked that.

Second girl bumped into me as I was wiping the last of the soap off my shoes. Oops. She apologized but as I was now official gentleman I had to buy her a drink to say sorry. A warning about Crazy House lady drinks. A double lady drink lasts the girl about 10 seconds.

This time I got mamasan Tang. She's the middle sized one of the three and quite nice. Her son works in the bar too. Family business! She took my second barfine that night at 2500 and didn't ask for commission. I gave her 100 tip and she looked disappointed so I gave her another 100. I had been saving that one for the waitress but I figured I was still about 1000 up on the previous deal and Tang was more polite and friendlier than Paar. Yes I did tip the waitress too but it had to be the 80 left over from my bar bill. Tang didn't round it up to make the math easier.

I'll put third and fourth nights in another post.

[Nongpagba]

Just after arriving after a long flight, my steps took me to Som's Haven with a visit to my old favourite Katay from SOL in mind. Fate was smiling and Katay was present. She proposed to take a VIP room saying: "I know you like to fuck me, so let's take this room". The room had a shower and a large bed. She sucked my dick for a while starting slowly and deeply, then I went down on her. I like her pussy with the big labiae. Then 30 minutes of intense fucking until I came in doggy position. She had come before riding me. She has lost none of her skills, but I preferred the action on the bar sofas at SOL together with Peung, Oen, or Pla rather than the more private setting at Som's.

[FlSailor]

I arrive in BKK the night after the bombing. I didn't see any additional security at the airport and going through immigration was very fast. Nana, Cowboy, and the Sukhumvit area.

In general are business as usual. I did notice a higher police presence on Sukhumvit road compared to one year ago, but I can't tell if that is due to the bombing. Also, when you enter.

The mall Terminal 21 the search all bags. But again, I don't know if that is something new due to the bombing. There is no curfew and all bars are open for business.

[Syzygies]

Really good question. I have lived in BKK for 16 years and used to be a regular visitor (once a month) to Pattaya up until about 8 years ago. About that time I found it a bit tedious and the value for money started to go a bit downhill.

Last weekend I made my first trip down solo in years. Have to say I love the new G-Club establishments. Kinnaree Place has to be one of the most outstanding places I have seen in Thailand in my years here. The place is posh, beers are 90 Baht, BF and ST room is 350 Baht, and the all the gals are 1 k ST on premises. And there are some real lookers there. Even my jaded ass was stunned. When you compare it to BKK it is quality, fun, and value. The prices are what they should be. Also went to Passion in Jomtien which was also great. Most of the G-Clubs open at 1 pm and close at 10 pm. Soi 6 is also in good form with gals quite desperate for ....

Thanks for a very useful post. I am feeling tempted to go try. Will be fumny for me as know so little having not been there for nearly 20 years and only ever there briefly and not alone. If it's not that special I can simply come back no great loss.

Might have to start RTFFing and checking Maps to learn where things are.

[Syzygies]

For the folks that is already in BK, in your opinion, how safe is it to travel to BK with the recent news coming out of BK? That's 3 bombs in 2 days?

Bangkok is still a very safe place relative to many other places. The road traffic carnage is the most dangerous thing in Bangkok after jumping into a crododile pen in Samut Prakaan.

No point in having a reaction to these bombs.

[ActionOriented]

...On BKK vs Pat: the OP said it himself, paraphrasing, "BKK has afternoons in the massage, and evenings looking around the go go's," not to mention all the cultural stuff and great restaurants that BKK provides. ....

Pats does get started sooner as well. If the idea is to spend afternoons in the massage shops, there are loads of them all very competitively priced (the clean establishments). These 'clean' MPs have good penetration in Pats with one shop every 15 meters. Even the naughty shops on soi honey and chaiyapoon start off by 10-11 am with a moderate line up. After doing the naughty MPs in the early afternoon, one could head to soi 6, 7 and 8 during 4-8 pm. Do some Go-Go hopping thereafter / the G-clubs which I enjoy as well. After 12 at night, its time to hit the clubs, iBar, Red Car etc partying into the early morning. So lots to do in Pattaya at all times I think unless things have changed much in 6-8 months since I visited.

In terms of food, yes, thai food is probably better in BKK, but if you like farang food there are quite a few nice establishments along soi Diana and some other spots around Pats.

[Titanio]

For the folks that is already in BK, in your opinion, how safe is it to travel to BK with the recent news coming out of BK? That's 3 bombs in 2 days?

When you question that, don't go!

[Crocodilexp]

For the folks that is already in BK, in your opinion, how safe is it to travel to BK with the recent news coming out of BK? That's 3 bombs in 2 days?

Two bombs, not three.

Statistically speaking it's roughly as safe as ever. Every single day of the year, there are 30+ traffic fatalities across Thailand. That bomb killed 20 people. And there was only one bomb with fatalities in over a year (excluding Deep South, don't go there).

[Dinotrex]

For the folks that is already in BK, in your opinion, how safe is it to travel to BK with the recent news coming out of BK? That's 3 bombs in 2 days?

[Member #4698]

Kinnaree Place has to be one of the most outstanding places I have seen in Thailand in my years here. The place is posh, beers are 90 Baht, BF and ST room is 350 Baht, and the all the gals are 1 k ST on premises. And there are some real lookers there. Even my jaded ass was stunned. When you compare it to BKK it is quality, fun, and value. The prices are what they should be. Also went to Passion in Jomtien which was also great. Most of the G-Clubs open at 1 pm and close at 10 pm. Soi 6 is also in good form with gals quite desperate for customers.

I like hearing this! I will be back visiting Pat for 8 days in just a little while before I unpack my bags and hang out in BKK for 3 weeks. The last time i went to Pattaya was over two years ago. I will only go to Pat in the low season. I hate it when the place gets overrun with tourists.


On BKK vs Pat: the OP said it himself, paraphrasing, "BKK has afternoons in the massage, and evenings looking around the go go's," not to mention all the cultural stuff and great restaurants that BKK provides. Aside from a few G-Clubs Goatscrot mentioned, Pat does not really get started until 5 or 6 pm when it is time to pay a visit to Soi 6 and see what's going on. Then later it is Go Go time until the discos and clubs get busy. I usually do nothing most of the day in Pat besides walking beach road (exercise, 555), eat, and hangout at my hotel swimming pool. That is the major reason why I generally prefer the big mango and all it has to offer over the naughty resort town, but I can't wait to check out both places in the not too distant future! Another plus for me in the BKK column is that I know far more girls in BKK than I do in Pat, although I concede that is the result of the disproportionate amount of time I spend in BKK vrs. Pattaya.

[Member #4591]

Hi,

I'm not new to Thailand so I do know about both. I the past, and I mean years back I liked Pattaya and I did not like Bangkok because of higher prices and the lack of choice.

The past few years I'm always spending some time in BKK and the city grown on me, with afternoons in the massage, and evenings playing pool and looking around at the gogos.

Last time in Pattaya prices were nearly the same like BKK, but a lot more choice in Pattaya still and it could not really appeal me no more. Now I have about 4 or 5 days coming and I cannot decide where to head to.

Why do you guys choose one over the other?

Thanks

The only reason I can think of is the cheaper prices.

[Goatscrot]

Hi,

I'm not new to Thailand so I do know about both. I the past, and I mean years back I liked Pattaya and I did not like Bangkok because of higher prices and the lack of choice.

The past few years I'm always spending some time in BKK and the city grown on me, with afternoons in the massage, and evenings playing pool and looking around at the gogos.

Last time in Pattaya prices were nearly the same like BKK, but a lot more choice in Pattaya still and it could not really appeal me no more. Now I have about 4 or 5 days coming and I cannot decide where to head to.

Why do you guys choose one over the other?

Thanks

Really good question. I have lived in BKK for 16 years and used to be a regular visitor (once a month) to Pattaya up until about 8 years ago. About that time I found it a bit tedious and the value for money started to go a bit downhill.

Last weekend I made my first trip down solo in years. Have to say I love the new G-Club establishments. Kinnaree Place has to be one of the most outstanding places I have seen in Thailand in my years here. The place is posh, beers are 90 Baht, BF and ST room is 350 Baht, and the all the gals are 1 k ST on premises. And there are some real lookers there. Even my jaded ass was stunned. When you compare it to BKK it is quality, fun, and value. The prices are what they should be. Also went to Passion in Jomtien which was also great. Most of the G-Clubs open at 1 pm and close at 10 pm. Soi 6 is also in good form with gals quite desperate for customers.

However, the GoGo and disco scene were not to my liking. GoGos gals were wanting as much as their sisters in BKK and the discos were full of young dudes mainly from the Middle east and Africa. Found Walking St gals to be less than enthusiastic as well. You no longer hear, "where you go" every 10 meters. In fact, you have to do the asking.

Pattaya is pretty empty now as well. Reminds me of the low seasons when I first came back in the early '00's.
Unless you are into the oily scene (which is my genre of choice in BKK), I would say Pattaya is the better place for a P4P vacation. BKK just gets worse and worse and more expensive.

[Member #4591]

The days of freelancers on Craigs list are over now. There is a group of foreign pimps who have taken over. They take half the girls money for answering the ads and booking appointments. 90% of the emails you send will be read and replied to by this guy from Holland. The ads are quite good because they are cleverly written in Thinglish. I have had some luck recently with one of these girls but I mostly will place an ad. If I get lucky I will get a reply from a newbie freelancer looking for a few extra baht. This has happened a few times and the girls were all incredible. You must be persistent with your ads by reposting and weeding through the working girl or ladyboy replies. CL is the most hit and miss, plus dangerous option, so for the newbies I would not suggest using it.