Bangkok Reports

[LoneWolff]

This is how it works at Maria. An epic finish. Time to get back to the real world.

May be you mentioned somewhere but what would be charges at places like Maria, La Belle and Black Caviar?

[ATexGuy]

Thank you for the informative posts regarding the current state of play at the high end soapies. I used to frequent the equivalent establishments many years ago. Back then, along with the bath, BBBJ and FS you mention, a standard part of the service was a 'soapy slide' on a mat after the bath. I'm curious to know, is that 'soapy slide' no longer offered as part of the service? For me, that was always a highlight of any session at these places.

I hit a few massage places on 24 and 33 that did the Nuru gel slide on an inflated mattress. I have never had that offered at La Belle, Tera, Maria, or Black Caviar.

[Nyezhov]

Small sample size but I wasn't asked to show my ticket out of Thailand for my last 2 entries. Sucks cause I bought a cheap throwaway ticket for both trips. I was asked where I'm going next. That's it. However, I wouldn't recommend flying in to Thailand on a regular tourist Visa without a ticket to leave.

What do you guys with 30 day extensions do? You can't show them a ticket leaving in 60 days if your initial tourist Visa is 30 days. Do you buy a throwaway ticket?

Ride sharing apps. Bolt is the best value. Grab is usually quicker for a ride. I heard Tada just started in BKK. I didn't get a chance to use it though.

For the zillioneth time, Grab is better. Faster, more cars and the difference in cost is negligible. You can tie your Wise debit card in too.

The ticket requirement is usually airlines. Air Asia has never asked me. You buy your ticket out when you go for your extension.

[SiamMan]

At these high end soapies, you can expect the bath, BBBJ, and FS. I think kissing is completely up to the girl. .

Thank you for the informative posts regarding the current state of play at the high end soapies. I used to frequent the equivalent establishments many years ago. Back then, along with the bath, BBBJ and FS you mention, a standard part of the service was a 'soapy slide' on a mat after the bath. I'm curious to know, is that 'soapy slide' no longer offered as part of the service? For me, that was always a highlight of any session at these places.

[ATexGuy]

My question is why didn't you cultivate a relationship with the Maria Mamasan with a drink or tip? Possibly get better service?

Probably unintentional, your question assumes that I didn't attempt to "cultivate a relationship" and didn't tip the mamasans. Now to be clear, Maria is not like some go go bar in Nana Plaza where you buy the mamasans shots and drinks. These high-end soapies are extremely professional. I have never seen one even drink coffee or water. This isn't my first rodeo and I always tip generously when I go to these soapies so that I get great service each time I come back. Perhaps you missed my prior posting where someone specifically asked me about tipping my papasan at La Belle. Regardless, the point I was trying to make was the lack of service was due to language, race, and pure laziness. This soapy caters to Chinese customers. I was repeatedly told by the girls that 90+ % of their customers are Chinese tourists. The rest are Thai, Japanese and Korean. The papasans / mamasans do not speak English, put their Chinese customers first, and most are lazy and prefer to sit on their butts playing on their phones. I share this with the ISG readers in the event they want to go there and happen to be non asian. As with all my posts, I share my experiences so others know what to expect. Frankly, I hope there is a clientele shift at this place and more men from Australia, Europe, and North America start going here. From my perspective, Maria in one the very top places I have ever been to in the world.

[Banana Boi]

they also want to see your return ticket. BTW does anyone have a good ride sharing app for BKK?

Small sample size but I wasn't asked to show my ticket out of Thailand for my last 2 entries. Sucks cause I bought a cheap throwaway ticket for both trips. I was asked where I'm going next. That's it. However, I wouldn't recommend flying in to Thailand on a regular tourist Visa without a ticket to leave.

What do you guys with 30 day extensions do? You can't show them a ticket leaving in 60 days if your initial tourist Visa is 30 days. Do you buy a throwaway ticket?

Ride sharing apps. Bolt is the best value. Grab is usually quicker for a ride. I heard Tada just started in BKK. I didn't get a chance to use it though.

[Nyezhov]

I am flying from Bali to Bangkok in late April. Was going to book flights in Bali going to fly Air Asia.

Can anyone recommend a good reliable app.

Thanks.

Well if you are going to fly Air Asia, use their crappy app.

[Tlito]

I am flying from Bali to Bangkok in late April. Was going to book flights in Bali going to fly Air Asia.

Can anyone recommend a good reliable app.

Thanks.

[Shamester]

Did the Applikation process for 60 day tourist Visa get a lot easier?

Last year I remember they wanted my Airline Reservation.

Yes -- they also want to see your return ticket. BTW does anyone have a good ride sharing app for BKK?

[Forty Drinks]

They still do (for USA citizens at least).

Ask for air and hotel still there. And proof of residency in USA.

No more Bank account request. And that Stupid photo with your face and passport in same shot.

I swear läßt one had 9 things you had to do. This current one only 4 or 5.

[Nyezhov]

Did the Applikation process for 60 day tourist Visa get a lot easier?

Last year I remember they wanted my Airline Reservation.

They still do (for USA citizens at least).

[Nyezhov]

My question is why didn't you cultivate a relationship with the Maria Mamasan with a drink or tip? Possibly get better service?

My question is why to come waaaay the f over to a city that you hate to pay western prices for pooswah?

[ThaiGoodTimes]

At these high end soapies, you can expect the bath, BBBJ, and FS. I think kissing is completely up to the girl. Is it possible to get BBFS, yes, but I think you would likely pay a significant premium and would be expected to pull out. I typically do not mention BBFS in my post because I think girls that provide this level of service cross a very risky line, especially if they do it with many customers. I enjoy this level of service as much as the next guy, but each time I have the opportunity I know I am taking huge risks. And lastly, no, I would never discuss services with the mamasan / papasan. I think the management of these high-end places want to keep everyone safe and do not want their girls offering BBFS. I think if this is something you want, ask the girl while you are in the bath together if she offers extra services and be prepared to show a recent std test (in Thai) showing you have been recently tested and are clean. Keep in mind, the girls that work at a place like Maria or Black Caviar make a lot of money by Thai standards. They do not need the extra money like a poor farm girl working in Soi Cowboy. It's not worth the risk to them especially with Chinese guys coming into this place eager to spend money.

Thanks for the feedback.

[FilthyBeaver]

The mama can't promise you anything other than the amount of time the girl is in the room with you. She will tell you what a particular girl will or won't do (or will get the answer if she doesn't know) but the standard line is "she gives very good service. " I have never had a mama redirect me from someone I had chosen because they "give bad service. ".

The best result I've ever received from tipping a mama, actually a papa in my case, is a discount (that I didn't ask for). This wasnt LE belle. I also brought a friend from the states into LE belle and the mama is was very close to pulled me aside and said she wouldn't be able to give him a break from the farang mark up that she had been giving me. The story is a little more complicated but that's all I'm willing to say.

My question is why didn't you cultivate a relationship with the Maria Mamasan with a drink or tip? Possibly get better service?

[Dg8787]

I always love visiting Thailand and get super excited in the days leading up to my trip, but I am often eager to get home once I am there. The jet lag just kills me and I don't get a lot of sleep trying to work remotely during the night on US business hours. I always feel safe in Bangkok, but it's just a dirty city to me (not as bad as Jakarta) and there is something annoying about walking down the street from my hotel and getting grabbed and scratched by ladyboys trying to get my attention. The traffic is a nightmare and it is stifling hot and humid. And yes, for some reason I get food poisoning / diarrhea even though I eat most of my meals at my hotel.

As my days were coming to a close, I had to decide what I wanted to do and accomplish. I really didn't explore the g-clubs like I wanted, but I am not a big drinker and was traveling solo. Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza were such a disappointment that any more nights there would just be a waste. I had to ask myself why I flew to the other side of the world to this shithole of a city. I went there to see gorgeous Thai ladies, so I decided to spend my energy, time, and money at Maria Massage. To me, it's just the best.

I arrived at Maria around 3 pm and as I entered I was told that all of there girls were in a mandatory meeting until 4 pm. I thought this might be a great thing! Mandatory meeting means every girl is in the building. I needed to come back at 4 pm but where should I go? I decided to get a Bolt motorbike to get me and take me to Black Caviar. When I arrived shortly after 3 there were about 30 girls in the lounge. The manasan immediately recognized me and remembered my name and where I was from. I guess it's easy to stand out when you are one of the very few caucasion guys from the US that has been in there. I got lots of smiles from the girls and quickly made my choice. Off to the room and the standard soapy service was offered. I would not repeat with her. By this time it's about 4:30 and I am checking my watch. I need to get back to Maria ASAP.

A quick motorbike ride back to Maria and I am immediately blown away by the number of girls I see when I walk in. It was one of those holy shit moments. Every girl was there in front of me and ready to be taken to a room. I saw two that were just stunners. Of course the mamasan that escorted me to a table was catering to her Chinese customers and both girls got picked during the 15-20 minutes that I waited for her to return. Please note, most of the mamasa / papasan there do not speak English, so it's not like you can easily get someone else's attention to help you. Was I pissed? Hell yes! This is how it works at Maria. If you are Chinese you get great service. If you are a white guy you wait and pick after the Chinese. Elon Musk could go into Maria and have to wait behind the Chinese customers. If you are a white guy you are the least important customer in that building. All customers are not treated equally. Fortunately, there were still a ton of girls to pick from. When the mamasan finally came back over to me, I very politely told her that I would like to pick the sideline girl in the long black dress. This Thai beauty was shy and had not made eye contact with me, but once I picked her she was super happy and told me she had been watching me. She was new and it was her 5th day working. She said that she is always scared of being selected and going back to a room. She looked fantastic naked, but her service was just so so. I don't know about any of you, but when I am in missionary looking down at the face of a gorgeous Thai lady, I get so turned on. The girl was very nice and I would see her again, but I was eager to get back to the lounge to find the two girls I missed.

Okay, so you are not going to believe this. I walked back into the lounge area and grab a seat. I immediately notice one of these girls is back too. She is simply breathtakingly gorgeous. I look around and my mamasan is no where to be found and there is only one papasan that is attending to a Chinese customer at the table behind me. I keep looking for the mamasan and she is MIA. I look over my shoulder and the other papasan has called her over to the Chinese customer and she is standing at his table while he is inspecting her. Finally I see my mamasan and get her attention. I tell her I want the girl standing at the table behind me. Seconds later the Chinese customer stands up from his table and I watch her walk over to desk to pay. Damn! At this point I see a mamasan from one of my prior visits and get her attention. I explain to her what has happened and she suggest I make a booking for this beauty for when she is finished. Fine.

The odd part of this situation was that I had a great table upfront and most of the girls were making eye contact with me and smiling at me. While the mamasan / papasans were totally ignoring me, it was clear that the color of my skin and the language I spoke was no issue with the models even though it got me ignored by the staff I needed to help me with the selection of a girl. I began to notice one girl looking directly at me and each time I looked at her she smiled back at me. This is when I notice this girl is wearing those sexy clear stripper shoes that strippers in the US wear. So sexy! This must be a sign LOL! Finally I get the attention once again of the mamasan and select this lovely lady. I could write an entire post on my 90 minutes with this Thai beauty, but let's just say she totally wiped every last bit of energy I had out of me and left my head spinning. And yes, I had her wear her stripper shoes in bed. So so sexy!

As I walked back towards the lounge and grab a seat, I remember that I made a booking with the gorgeous girl from earlier. I am dead tired and realized I have had three girls within about 5 hours. I have nothing left and go over to speak with the mamasan to cancel the booking. She suggest that we make a booking with her for the next day. I head back to my hotel and crash as soon as I hit my bed.

The next day I head back to Maria around 4 pm. I got some really good sleep and I am completely recharged. A papasan who spoke no English walked me to a table and I quickly notice much fewer girls working today. The mamasan from the night before sees me and comes over to tell me PRM is not coming in tonight and is taking holiday. Am I disappointed? Yes, but there are some real beauties sitting in front of me. I immediately notice one staring at me and smiling at me. Yup! Smokin hot! I'll take her. No hesitation. Gorgeous! Simply gorgeous! Back to the room for the bath and service. She was phenomenal! This woman is the exact reason why I would fly to the other side of the world.

As I headed back to lounge and ordered some food while I recovered, I kept my eyes out for one more real beauty to emerge. The girl I just went to the room with kept looking at me and smiling. For a moment I strongly considered taking her for round 2. It is at this time that I reflect upon my days in Bangkok and decide that this beauty and my last session with her was going to be my last of the trip. I was going to conclude my trip with that remarkable 90 minute experience that I had with her. An epic finish. Time to get back to the real world.

My question is why didn't you cultivate a relationship with the Maria Mamasan with a drink or tip? Possibly get better service?