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  1. #47279
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Lots of reasons, but my guess at the main one is they are ridiculously expensive. BFs keep climbing and gals want more and more. There is no value, and I think even some tourists are catching on. The coyote and then agency thing really screwed up the business model. Want customers back? Bring BFs back to 500 Baht and get ST prices back at 1500. Bars will be loaded.
    Totally agree. BF are around 1000 and st 3000, that's too expensive. In gogo bars you can find always the hottest girls and see their body and attitude very good before choosing, that's why I like gogo bars very much in comparison with massages places or other options.

  2. #47278
    If I was planning a trip to Southeast Asia from the West now, I would cancel it. I myself am leaving Bangkok for Cambodia today for a variety of reasons, this virus has just expedited it.

    Quite honestly, the mongering seen in Bangkok isn't like it used to be For tourists. If you are a first-timer, you're going to pay as much as you do in the West if not more depending on where you go. If you are living here, or staying here as a snowbird like I do, then it's still decent.

    On this trip I have been in Bangkok since August, and while I do go to a go-go every now and then for amusement, I have not bar fined out of a go-go in years. Basically, especially in soy cowboy, they are a little more than clip joints for Asian tourists.

    Now if your goal is to eat great food, and enjoy the atmosphere and see cool stuff, with some ability to grab some hottie as a bonus, then it's worth while coming. Use the massage parlors in the prom pong area or go to thermae. Usually, when I give my let's get laid tours, my lesser heeled clients find something they like in terme, the ones who don't care about cost end up the all-nighters, including mixx.

    Keep in mind that starting around Christmas time, and lasting at least till the middle of next month, the air sucks all up and down the Chao Phraya valley. Too bad that's also the coolest time of year in terms of heat.

    I've been avoiding the tourist area down on lower Suk for the past the two weeks but one of my homeboys told me it's dead. I live near a very popular Thai food Street and last night it was dead there too. My biggest concern about coming to Bangkok now would be the inability to get out because already, some taxi driver has been diagnosed with the virus and you never know when they make those things down.

  3. #47277
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Yes while typical Chinese round faces don't suit me, nor do the overly straight bodies with flat asses. I guess the good looking Chinese girls are less than 1%. I do find Indonesian girls to have good bodies. I used to do a 9 out of 10 Java girl in my home country. She got deported back to Indonesia when her relationship with boyfriend went bad. I was sad. She was so hot with great face and body. Unfortunately I don't even have a pic of her.

    Fortunately the Chinese population is huge, so plenty of Chinese beauties do exist. I think it varies by location. A 4 day visit to a friend in Guangzhou, I hardly saw a Chinese girl that impressed me for the whole visit. Even I met "Miss China" winner of a beauty competition at the golf club, she was very tall, very straight body, looked just like a lady boy to me, face nothing special for me.

    Even I find very few famous Chinese movie stars to be that specially beautiful. Shu Qi was to my taste. Just a few on this list really appeal to me (even if do have the upside down triangle shaped face):

    http://www.chinawhisper.com/top-20-h...ese-actresses/

    Its just personal taste. Others much prefer Chinese over Thai, especially if big tits and white skin. In fact Thai men prefer Chinese girls with big tits and white skin over real Thai look girls, generally. I see how Thai men choose at Soapy MPs.

    I would not consider living in Hong Kong or Guangzhou. I hated the culture and the girls did not appeal. I assume Shianghai is much better.

    To be fair, out in the Issan village where my GF comes from, I find her to be the only hot adult female in town (some children are good looking and have not yet left for the big city). I know some other reasonably sexy girls from same province, but different villages. So a fairly low portion of the Issan girls are really hot for me too. Maybe its not much different to chinese proportions. I am very happy my small GF still has a great curvy body at 40 years old. Still a hot ass. However it causes me to be too fussy when mongering I think.
    Yep, I prefer Chinese over Thai. Those top 20 are unreal.

  4. #47276
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Did the spelling auto corrector get you? I thought it was Wuhan (Wulan is an Indonesian girls name).

    Wuhan may have some pretty girls, but they might be the exception. Average Chinese looks are not quite my thing, a lot of goofy faces in the typical crowd pic. The face type that I like is sometimes described as the inverted triangle shape and is largely missing in average Chinese girls.

    Maybe the 4th girl in the group of 5 pic is right face shape for me.
    Interesting, The last gal in the group, left to right, is IMHO amazing. Great face, great skin color, just excellent. I'd rate most all but one and 2 above most Thai gals I see.

  5. #47275
    Quote Originally Posted by AlexJino  [View Original Post]
    I noticed many gogo bars are empty or have less customers.

    In Patpong area, I visited some bars, full of beautiful girls but a few customers inside. I think Patpong area, if you avoid the ping pong shows scams, it's a good area, and have many beauties in the bars.

    In soi cowboy, less customers too. I remember 1-2 years ago, Baccara was totally full, and now it's only half full.

    I really like gogo bars and I wonder why this happen. Or maybe it's only my perception.

    Thanks.
    Lots of reasons, but my guess at the main one is they are ridiculously expensive. BFs keep climbing and gals want more and more. There is no value, and I think even some tourists are catching on. The coyote and then agency thing really screwed up the business model. Want customers back? Bring BFs back to 500 Baht and get ST prices back at 1500. Bars will be loaded.

  6. #47274
    Quote Originally Posted by RobertLong  [View Original Post]
    I agree with your observation of Chinese women. The bodies are usually straight and not curvy, small thin legs and no bubble butts. There are exceptions but far and few.

    IMHO, Indonesia and Thailand women have the best bodies. Indo for large breasts and Thai for overall sweetness.

    RL.
    Yes while typical Chinese round faces don't suit me, nor do the overly straight bodies with flat asses. I guess the good looking Chinese girls are less than 1%. I do find Indonesian girls to have good bodies. I used to do a 9 out of 10 Java girl in my home country. She got deported back to Indonesia when her relationship with boyfriend went bad. I was sad. She was so hot with great face and body. Unfortunately I don't even have a pic of her.

    Fortunately the Chinese population is huge, so plenty of Chinese beauties do exist. I think it varies by location. A 4 day visit to a friend in Guangzhou, I hardly saw a Chinese girl that impressed me for the whole visit. Even I met "Miss China" winner of a beauty competition at the golf club, she was very tall, very straight body, looked just like a lady boy to me, face nothing special for me.

    Even I find very few famous Chinese movie stars to be that specially beautiful. Shu Qi was to my taste. Just a few on this list really appeal to me (even if do have the upside down triangle shaped face):

    http://www.chinawhisper.com/top-20-h...ese-actresses/

    Its just personal taste. Others much prefer Chinese over Thai, especially if big tits and white skin. In fact Thai men prefer Chinese girls with big tits and white skin over real Thai look girls, generally. I see how Thai men choose at Soapy MPs.

    I would not consider living in Hong Kong or Guangzhou. I hated the culture and the girls did not appeal. I assume Shianghai is much better.

    To be fair, out in the Issan village where my GF comes from, I find her to be the only hot adult female in town (some children are good looking and have not yet left for the big city). I know some other reasonably sexy girls from same province, but different villages. So a fairly low portion of the Issan girls are really hot for me too. Maybe its not much different to chinese proportions. I am very happy my small GF still has a great curvy body at 40 years old. Still a hot ass. However it causes me to be too fussy when mongering I think.

  7. #47273

    Bangkok corona virus update

    The situation in Bangkok is ok. Some people wear masks, there is probably a bit fewer tourists and mongers than there would otherwise have been, but life (including mongering) goes on as usual.

    Thanks to whoever it was who recommended Kings Castle 1 in Patpong on the forum. At around 4000 Baht, it I s expensive, and but there a are e many girls and many of them a are e attractive. Pink Panther in Pat Pong used to be open later than the other bars (which close at 02:00), but not any more, or at least not always.

    I find Bangkok is not a cheap mongering destination, but there are some very nice experiences to be had with slightly older or less attractive girls.

  8. #47272

    Exchange Rates

    Just landed in BKK, it feels like all my flights to here land at ungodly hours, just early enough into the night to think you'll have some time for fun but by the time you check in you might as well crash. Staying at Grande Centre Point T21 for a couple of nights. I've got an escort lined up tomorrow night but if any seniors have favorite spots for daytime fun (never tried Soapies) near T21 I'the be in your debt. Would be happy to trade info in the States (I know its the States but sometimes it's easier than trying to plan around 19 hour round trip flights).

    Something that I noticed today at the airport, usually I will bring USD but will also pull some BHT via ATM for convenience. In every country I've been where ATMs present a local exchange rate or using the card issuer exchange rate, the card issuer exchange rate was superior. However this time around the ATM exchange rate was actually better (30.8 BHT for ATM vs. 30.6 for my bank). Pretty small difference but I've just never seen it in favor of the ATM rate before, wonder if it can get even better.

  9. #47271

    Chinese Women

    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Did the spelling auto corrector get you? I thought it was Wuhan (Wulan is an Indonesian girls name).

    Wuhan may have some pretty girls, but they might be the exception. Average Chinese looks are not quite my thing, a lot of goofy faces in the typical crowd pic. The face type that I like is sometimes described as the inverted triangle shape and is largely missing in average Chinese girls.

    Maybe the 4th girl in the group of 5 pic is right face shape for me.
    I agree with your observation of Chinese women. The bodies are usually straight and not curvy, small thin legs and no bubble butts. There are exceptions but far and few.

    IMHO, Indonesia and Thailand women have the best bodies. Indo for large breasts and Thai for overall sweetness.

    RL.

  10. #47270

    My Thailand Experience

    So this was my first trip to Thailand and I was here for 15 days. These are my observations:

    1) GoGo bars: They are fun to spend time at. You may find 1 or 2 sexy ones at each gogo but cost to fuck is just too much considering bar fines and what those girls are offering. I think they are nice just to get teased and excited before going to your room to fuck a freelancer or a spa girl. Just buy a drink and a lady drink and let them get you in a mood. Barfine if you got bahts to burn. Also I find Pattaya gogo girls to be putting in more effort than Bangkok.

    2) Freelancers: Great value for money. You just need to look before you find a good one.

    3) Massage parlours: I found them the best option. Not expensive and you can easily spot pretty ones. They will come to your hotel room for a hundred or two hundred extra. At lesser price you get to fuck and then get a nice massage afterwards. It was not new or exciting to me since we have a few Thai massage parlours in my city as well and all the masseurs are Thai offering same services at similar prices.

    4) Nuru massage: My peak experience. This was a new experience to me and the spa I went to gave me awesome choices in girls. They were thin, short like school girls with sexy no flab tummies and boobs were big. The nuru gel was awesome. And even though we fucked in the middle of session, girl gave me service till my time was over. It was heaven (spa name as well as my one hour). Cost wise it is 800-1200 baht extra than normal massage parlour fucking but totally worth it. Next time I am getting more of these.

  11. #47269

    Better to be Cautious

    Quote Originally Posted by Cucumber  [View Original Post]
    I am planning a trip to Bangkok. Is the health scare related to the Wuhan Corona virus having any consequences for mongering in Bangkok? E. g. Are some places closed or fewer girls available, or fewer mongers?

    My hypothesis would be that there would be no fewer girls, but perhaps a bit fewer mongers and thus it might even be a good time to go to Bangkok. On the other hand, if it gets really bad, being stuck in Bangkok with places shutting down, controls at airports and everyone waring a face mask doesn't seem very fun. Especially for a DFK aficionado like me.
    Same here better to control the urge for some time, than traveling with anxiety and spoiling the trip.

  12. #47268
    Quote Originally Posted by Sammon  [View Original Post]
    You should worry more about the diseases girls carry being with so many men than Wulan virus. By the way Wulan girls are very pretty. I had two long time girlfriends from there.
    Did the spelling auto corrector get you? I thought it was Wuhan (Wulan is an Indonesian girls name).

    Wuhan may have some pretty girls, but they might be the exception. Average Chinese looks are not quite my thing, a lot of goofy faces in the typical crowd pic. The face type that I like is sometimes described as the inverted triangle shape and is largely missing in average Chinese girls.

    Maybe the 4th girl in the group of 5 pic is right face shape for me.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails wuhan-china-girls.jpg‎   singles-nightlife-wuhan.jpg‎  

  13. #47267
    Quote Originally Posted by TutLi  [View Original Post]
    As I have limited time, I'm not planning on experimenting. Yes i do knw there are many options like escorts , bj bars , and what not but i'm looking for some to visit me in my hotel and not much of outing

    Please do recommend some great options.
    No answers coming yet! It's all been answered before. Might help if you state more clearly what you look for. Otherwise why would someone make an effort?

  14. #47266

    Empty gogo bars

    I noticed many gogo bars are empty or have less customers.

    In Patpong area, I visited some bars, full of beautiful girls but a few customers inside. I think Patpong area, if you avoid the ping pong shows scams, it's a good area, and have many beauties in the bars.

    In soi cowboy, less customers too. I remember 1-2 years ago, Baccara was totally full, and now it's only half full.

    I really like gogo bars and I wonder why this happen. Or maybe it's only my perception.

    Thanks.

  15. #47265

    Took a plunge into oblivion

    Ok, it is what it is.

    I just like to put 6000 baht in my pocket and go wild in Bangkok and see where it takes me.

    That is normally my budget and I stick to it. Even if that means I have to walk across half of Bangkok. So be it. I'm a Cheap Charlie.

    Where did that take me today?

    First, food at some Japanese joint close to soy cowboy, 500 baht "kaching". Then I went to crazy house, since I liked it last time, but it was packed with koreans / chinese so I moved out. Went into Jungle jims, did not like the mood, went out. Went into Baccara, emptied some Rum coke and lady drinks, 1300 baht *kaching". Not very well spent money. Then bailed out from Soi Cowboy. All ladies are old for fuck sake! I'm in my forties and they look like my mum!

    Went into a cab and off to "beam" hardcore techno, as "hardcore" as Bangkok gets I suppose. 500 baht entrance *kaching" Good party, had some red bull vodka, 700 baht. Closed at 2 am, too early for me, cab to Insanity, driver asked for 200 tell him to go away but setteled on 100. Gave him 200 anyway since he was from Isaan. Some more drinks decided to not go alone, 2000 baht + taxi to my hotel, + taxi home for her = 300 *kaching* ehhh. Fuck this, time to sleep, peace!

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