Bangkok Reports

[Francesco24]

Today I went to Ratchada 17 (Watana hotel) to meet this girl: https://fiwfans.io/sideline/406raembhlp0ggbxq.

I really would like to know how can every review on her page be so fake?

IF she is the same girl as in the picture, the amount of photoshop is really crazy. In real, she looks barely passable (5.5 or 6 at most).

Service was even worse of course: the.

No kiss with tongue, no touch / lick her boobs already made me lose any interest which was already low after seeing her real looks.

BJ was decent but very very short. No CIM allowed.

So I would like to ask again to the member more expert about FiwFan, how is it possible that every review is overly positive? Most are fake? Real negative review are censored? (I didn't try to review on FiwFan yet). Or they switch the girl with someone vaguely resembling the original one when she is off work?

[Francesco24]

Don't give up on TF after just one bad experience. I use it all the time, and yes it's time consuming, especially in BKK (in Pattaya it's easier), and most of the girls I meet are only average, but every now and then I hit the jackpot. And that makes it all worth it.

How much you pay when you hit the jackpot? Lately every cute young girl seem to ask at least 3 k (or more) for st.

[ChrisCross123]

You will not easily find any FLs in the Thonglor / Ekkamai area, that's not what the area is for. It's a more upscale part of the city where the upper middle / upper class go to let their hair down with a party of friends. Any freelancers there will not be looking for a customer, and there is not one bar that's known for P4 P.

Fair enough. For some reason I thought I read that Thonglor is particularly suitable for finding FLs due to the number of clubs and bars here.

Any recommendations for Bangkok in general?

[NovaThings]

Section 3.

Day 4 -.

Went back to black caviar and they let me choose without membership again so I chose two CVs. One was the sana look alike and the other was a former racing car model. Amazing experience. They gave me my member number after that session. They upgraded me to a huge suite without any additional fees.

Rested and went back to red dragon. My second line girl got super pissed because I picked two sisters and not her and someone else. The younger is second from the left on 12/25, I would rate her as a L and her sister as a M. Amazing experience. Younger sister was third line girl, older sister was decent but selected both because it was a bucket item list I didn't know I wanted to check off.

Day 5 -.

Went to Snow White and saw candy in the morning. M face, s body. Out in 30 but paid for hour. Tipped and left.

Went to black caviar in the early afternoon and chose an L. Amazing experience. I thought she should be a XL. She would let me face force her and she was gagging while deepthroating me but wouldn't quit. She was snorting out my seed, since her mouth was full and she smiled through the whole appointment.

I was planning to go back to black caviar as my final destination that evening because there were 2 girls that I saw and wanted to see. But for the good of the team I went to PIMP instead. Pimp Mamasan was super cool but there was no CV, maybe a handful of PV, and L / xl out of 30 girls. The problem was I was probably going to fork out close to 45,000 for room, bar fine, automatic food cost and then add another 8-16,000 (a guess) if I could bring them back and some were not available to leave. I think PIMP would be a solid option as warm up to the actual thing but I wanted action and not teasing.

Messaged mamasan at black caviar who upgraded me again as I chose duo L (who I think was more of a PV) and her friend who was a PV (who I would have picked as a L). I then went with another L, L, and PV trio after my initial L and PV duo to close out my final day. I ended up paying about the same amount as above for PIMP but got the same size room / amenities while meeting 5 different girls. I would consider pimp maybe earlier in my vacation next time but it will likely be black caviar (get lines) and then everything else.

In conclusion. I really tried to be open but there was such a wide looks gap between soapies and gogo / black caviar and black caviar had even better service. I had black caviar girls forcing themselves on me, spitting on my cock, deep throating, rimming, forcing their partner to open wider, super flexible, submissive, etc. Coupled with the most beautiful girls. I did end up with some decent girls from red dragon but ultimately the girls from black caviar are the standard and that's the price I was willing to play. Also during slow hours. There were about 20 girls at black caviar but during peak hours there were at least 50 and 1/2 were always XL, PV or CV. Happy punting all!

[NovaThings]

Section 2.

My initial plan was 2 soapies and then one gogo bar in the evening per day. My major problem I had is I am an early riser and most places don't open until 1000 and most girls don't arrive until 1400 so I was always squeezed to find places (try to recover) and then go to my next place.

Day 1.

Landed at 2400 so I knew everything closed shortly. I went directly to nana and went to about 5 places (billboard, butterfly, spankeys, etc) and ended up with a gogo girl for LT in the corner shop on the top floor? Cute but not as cute in the sunlight. She was my first line girl. She was a M and great service. All the girls I saw were S, M and a few Ls.

Went to Addict in the early afternoon, picked what I thought was a M in face but a S minus in body once she took everything off. This was a reoccurring, disappointing theme with my soapie journey. Decent service but she offered a discounted second pop but I politely declined. Tipped and left.

Went back to nana and was planning to start at red dragon and creep up to butterfly / billboard expecting overall better talent since I got there earlier. I got snagged by the third girl (m) from the left wearing the pearl bracelet from 12/06 posting, she was fun and quarky, and I ended staying the whole evening with her as she introduced me to her friends who were dancing. I eventually ST her. All the girls were below S to a few Ls.

Day 2 -.

Went to BKK Vice. Picked another M in face but S minus in body once we were upstairs. Decent service, tipped and left.

I ate something that disagreed with me so I rested until evening and then to red dragon. I met with first day girl and then my "core group" starting growing. So each girl I ended up seeing would join as a group before I left with someone each evening from red dragon. I ended up with 1/19 waving hostess (m) and 1/11 girl (L) for ST and LT. Amazing service from both. 1/11 girl is mega crazy in a good and bad way. 1/19 hostess became my second line girl.

Day 3.

So I sort of decided to stop going to all other soapies all together because all the girls were S or M or worse and that was with their clothes on. BKK Vice had the nicest rooms, snow white and addict I felt like I had entered a male dorm room from the 80's (there were huge holes in the walls). Just a different vibe that didn't fit me. I did observe some decent girls sitting outside of butterfly but the few random soapies I walked into, I looked, politely declined and left. I wanted to see candy from Snow White but she was on vacation until day 5.

At this point I tried to do my research and contact black caviar. The number went nowhere so I had to take a bolt there. It's basically a huge hotel complex and the environment is completely different vibe that suited me. The prettiest M and L in the gogo scene would not even come close to the m and L girls at black caviar. The girls were so youthful that the older ones were even more obvious even by Asian standards. So (initially) they told me to select any girl I had to pay a 30,000 or 50,000 membership. I told them I wasn't interested in the membership but they let me pick? I picked a CV and XL. Amazing experience. They kept pushing me to select a membership but I told them I wasn't interested and left. Mamasan gave me her line. I think they use that line to gauge what kind of spender you are, if you try only pick S and M girls, they may not prioritize you as much but that's only in theory because I chose high level girls (not intentionally).

I met with first line girl for quick hookup and late lunch. She kept asking to meet again and she started getting clingy so I told her I was leaving soon.

Rested and went back to red dragon. LT (m) with waving hostess from 12/19 (again, my second line girl and she became my gatekeeper) and ST (m) with 1/9 girl in red bikini (m). Amazing experience from both.

[NovaThings]

Section 1.

Wanted to start by saying thank you to all the posters who gave me a general game plan. I broke up my posts into 3 sections to help those traveling here with similar interests and budget. Section 1 is general feedback and my opinion. Section 2 is my initial venture. Section 3 was exactly what I was trying to find in section 2.

If you carry cash, make sure your bills are the most current and absolutely pristine. I had about 10-20% of my cash not be able to be exchanged by the end of my trip. Do not use AIS for SIM cards because they have limited support for non contract cards and it caps at 1 gig daily. I ended up with an 18 gig dtac and I had no issue for 6 days. BOLT app for all your taxi needs. I was also not prepared for the level of smoke in the gogo bars. So I had to constantly had my clothes washed and I didn't bring enough outfits because I wasn't expecting this issue.

I stayed at column and it was a great central location. I only went to nana plaza and any walkable soapies. I was actually under budget until "black caviar" happened. I would like to roam soi cowboy maybe once next time just to see the differences.

I also want to reference black caviar in their ranking system to best illustrate my experiences and quality. They rate their girls from s, m, l, xl, pv to cv and cv is the highest. CV levels go to 15,500 bht. I will use the same rating for the level of appearances with all the places I frequented. For example, one CV I met looked like Sana from twice. No girl from black caviar had any kids, no tattoos, all fit / slim and delivered exceptional, crazy service. My only cons for black caviar is that it was too far to walk for me from where I was staying and I saw the most plastic surgery of this group than anywhere I went which is not my type. The continued good that they were the most engaging (one of my duos was named coconut and pancake which we laughed about for 15 minutes but then it went 100 really quickly in a good way). It was as much GFE as PSE. The CVs were obvious but the ratings for L-PV appeared to more subjective. I never saw anyone lower than L but some Ls looked better than some PVs? I think it also has to do with how popular / booked they are. All of my experiences at black caviar were mind blowing and even though I was offered two rounds with the room / fee, they would let me go as many times as I could but I was shooting blanks by day 4 and pretty much tapped out.

So how much did I spend? A lot, so I hope my responses don't come off as negative but I was semi disappointed until section 3. Also I'll reference twitter / x for the dates that show which girls I was trying to see at red dragon. I only went to red dragon exclusively with the goal of seeing as many of the girls that were shown on twitter / x. I developed a great relationship with the mamasan and girls so it was my go to for the week. I just ran out of time literally.

My preference is girl next door look, short, minimal plastic surgery.

[DustyRode]

I can relate to this because in my early years I spent years having sex with women in Las Vegas but after I ventured to Asia 20+ years ago I realized you could spend time with women without hating yourself for it. I think this may be mostly an American problem or anywhere where they state funded feminism. Women in the states are a different creature that will if you stay near one long enough eventually wear you down emasculate you, suppress your wants and desires and destroy any willingness to live your life. The US woman is a machine and a weapon created by the most powerful psyop in the history of the world and they are taught to hate everything male and they are also taught to let you know how much they hate everything male. All in the name of the holy voting block. That being said women in Asia don't have this trillion dollar programming. Spending time with women in Asia / SEA for the time being is still a breath of fresh air and they make you feel wanted and content, which women used to do in the US maybe in the 1800's. It makes sense that most American men cannot even imagine why you would want to spend more than the time it takes to jizz in a hole with a women. It really is a different situation, you can't compare women in Asia to women in the US. The emotional and intimate encounters you can have in a longer format with a woman who is outside the machine are extremely fulfilling and enjoyable.

The difference between women in the States and women in foreign countries is that women in the States make more money in their jobs and they don't have to rely solely on men. Women were more dependent years ago because men dominated the workplace and women couldn't get loans or credit cards without a man's approval. The secret to dating women in the States is that you have to bring something into the relationship. It's too bad that prostitution is outlawed in the States. Women love money as much as men love sex. Having sex for money with a variety of women to choose from is great! I've done it myself many times. Poverty leads to availability. Women in poorer countries love your money and will do whatever it takes to get it.

[Llantarnam]

Mainly I've been a CAMP monger (rub and tug and bye bye) in the States.

Do you realise that in some countries camp means gay!

[Member #4794]

This whole scene is totally new to me, so I am trying to wrap my head around these things. Mainly I've been a CAMP monger (rub and tug and bye bye) in the States.

I can relate to this because in my early years I spent years having sex with women in Las Vegas but after I ventured to Asia 20+ years ago I realized you could spend time with women without hating yourself for it. I think this may be mostly an American problem or anywhere where they state funded feminism. Women in the states are a different creature that will if you stay near one long enough eventually wear you down emasculate you, suppress your wants and desires and destroy any willingness to live your life. The US woman is a machine and a weapon created by the most powerful psyop in the history of the world and they are taught to hate everything male and they are also taught to let you know how much they hate everything male. All in the name of the holy voting block. That being said women in Asia don't have this trillion dollar programming. Spending time with women in Asia / SEA for the time being is still a breath of fresh air and they make you feel wanted and content, which women used to do in the US maybe in the 1800's. It makes sense that most American men cannot even imagine why you would want to spend more than the time it takes to jizz in a hole with a women. It really is a different situation, you can't compare women in Asia to women in the US. The emotional and intimate encounters you can have in a longer format with a woman who is outside the machine are extremely fulfilling and enjoyable.

[Tomasb]

I was chatting with a friend a few days ago who goes to Oskar on Soi 11 from time to time. Most of the FL's there quote ridiculous prices ranging, at least in his recent experience, from 7 to 8 k bt for long time and 5 k bt for short. A few nights ago, he did find an attractive FL to go with him for 5 k LT. A few nights later, he paid her 2 k bt for a replay. Of course, there is no BG but hardly a bargain.

He did ask her where else she might visit to find guys and her answer was nowhere but Oskar, which makes me think that these type of venues are few and far between. I did tell my friend to try Mynks but not sure if that is still a viable venue. Anyone know? With the possible exception of Levels (across the Soi from Oskar) and Sugar down the Soi a bit, there are not very many places for the hunt these days.

[TheNileRiva]

What night clubs in Thong Lo area are good for picking up FLs?

You will not easily find any FLs in the Thonglor / Ekkamai area, that's not what the area is for. It's a more upscale part of the city where the upper middle / upper class go to let their hair down with a party of friends. Any freelancers there will not be looking for a customer, and there is not one bar that's known for P4 P.

My point is, even if they were a freelancer, they're not going to admit it due to the stigma they'll invite upon themselves whilst with friends.

That's not to say there are no bars for P4 P in Thonglor. The area has a heavy Japanese presence and there are a few karaoke and snack bars with women, but they're more upscale than the ones on Thaniya. As such, you will have to be a regular with deep pockets to pull one of them from the bar for the night.

[Nyezhov]

What night clubs in Thong Lo area are good for picking up FLs?

Your particular chances of finding Freelancers in Thong Lor or RCA are super slim to none. I'm sure some internet sex God is going to tell you that it happens, and even the Blind Pig finds an acorn, but don't head to those areas thinking you're going to walk away with a girl for a thousand baht.

[ChrisCross123]

What night clubs in Thong Lo area are good for picking up FLs?

[Kirsia123]

You are right. Let me explain.

I should've mentioned that the report think you referring to doesn't indicate that there is any nightclub like Insanity used to be. I have been to some of the night clubs that was mentioned in the report but none of them are close to Insanity.

[Mogwai]

Want to try Cowboys and Nana next time and don't want to spend any more time with TF.

Don't give up on TF after just one bad experience. I use it all the time, and yes it's time consuming, especially in BKK (in Pattaya it's easier), and most of the girls I meet are only average, but every now and then I hit the jackpot. And that makes it all worth it.