Bangkok Reports

[Banana Boi]

I have negotiated every factor important to me upfront, that is DFK, BBBJ, BBFS+CIP, No Rushing and No Hurry,

Your approach is the correct one if BBFS is involved. However, I demand all of the above other than BBFSCIP so there is no need to negotiate the other things in Pattaya since those are a given. The exception are the soapies but you don't get to talk to the girls beforehand anyways. In BKK, Thermae girls are the issue. I'm not sure how you do all that negotiation in Thermae with girls on either side of her under a foot away. I'm sure a lot of girls give you dirty looks at Thermae when you're not looking.

I take your approach when it comes to some girls even getting a LD. I tell them DFK and mutual groping (HJ under shorts in a dirtier gogo bar or Soi 6) and my time expectations. I'm a Cheap Charlie so I expect a lot for my 200+ baht LD.

[EihTooms]

Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. Guess we have a different punter demographic these days.
And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.

Some punters who don't pay after the girl is in the room and maybe even after they are naked in their bed are the ones who "go with the flow", negotiate nothing upfront and then discover they are going to get nothing they wanted in the first place. It isn't necessarily that the dude got everything from the girl and then sent her packing with only taxi fare. It is also sometimes the case that the girl gave him nothing but "her time" after he paid the barfine and took her to his room and that is why he sent her packing with only taxi fare. If that much.

But that isn't what the girl is going to tell the mamasan and all of her co-workers in the bar.

In fact, I am one of those punters who feels that unless I have negotiated every factor important to me upfront, that is DFK, BBBJ, BBFS+CIP, No Rushing and No Hurry, and gotten a clear Yes to the program, the girl has every right to say No to any of it without my paying her less than the fairly well understood going rate for "her time". For go-go and beer bar girls let's say 2,500 - 3,000 baht.

That's right. In my opinion I have no standing to send any bargirl packing with only taxi fare or less because she didn't deliver any sex-related behavior or service that she did not agree to do upfront before I paid the barfine and took her.

Which is why I do negotiate those things upfront with a bargirl and "go with the flow" only under rare circumstances.

But there are other punters who don't see it that way.

[AmPervert]

Anyone know of any pregnant or lactating providers in BKK? Bucket list thing. I will be there next week.
I am a respectful guy and always nice to my providers. I will meet you at a pool hall if you want to make sure you can recommend me.

[AmPervert]

Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. Guess we have a different punter demographic these days....

..Seems to be a growing trend. I was quite surprised (and, I'll be honest, a little bit hurt) when someone I knew from last year asked for money before last week. Just contradictory to ALL my learnings..

Oh most definitely a different punter demographic these days. I noticed it my first visit back to Nana after Covid. Some of my regulars have told me of this as well. It seems to be a post Covid thing. Behaviors have changed since Covid in America, more rudeness as if that was even possible.

Look at some of the demeaning posts on this forum in the last years. One has a bad experience, we don't use words that demean women or the Thai race but the different punter demographic set definitely does. It is just a bad experience with one person. That can happen in any business anywhere in the world. It has nothing to do with ethnicity or sex.

Be polite guys. It is easy. Please. Thailand is paradise for us. Keep it that way.

p.s. Bravo, get a haircut, you dirty hippy. lol

[Nyezhov]

Good concise intel.

Well that's the way it should be, innit? I don't think folks are interested in my search for the ultimate cheap cookie, or how I got my toes manicured or my blow by blow description of me getting my nose hairs trimmed, or me bragging about how smart I am with lots of bold .

Its not about me is it? My life is complete enough to not have the need to broadcast the mundane aspects of same to the world.

[Paolo99]

And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.

You've been spoiled by all these years living in Bangkok, with pussy available everywhere and everyday.

You think guys coming from a sex prison country really care that she cannot hold a conversation? What they want is her body, at that point these guys don't care she is an Isaan farmer's daughter.

And as we read it often here, they usually say it's still cheaper than where they're coming from, so they go for it.

It's very clear the gogo system is not for everyone anymore, it's getting very expensive.

[Nyezhov]

Can Mr. Ny. Identify which Nana Bar Indian s are Barfining at?

I don't see many indian s at Rainbow 4 and 5. Usually they don't get past security. 😂.

I'll come clean. I'm not Indian. 😂.

I can't identify any bars which are a problem or not for Indian people. I'm really not a big fan of at the Go-Go bars for the reasons that goat set forth. I've only barfined a girl on two occasions this entire year. The whole process is annoying. And quite frankly, I think it's a ripoff, but every once in awhile during my travels a siren calls to me and I end up on the rocks.

[Nyezhov]

Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. Guess we have a different punter demographic these days.
And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.

Gets even better.

After the deed is done, they go back, punch back into the bar, and look for a bar fine fine again.

It's way not the old days anymore.

[Raj Patela]

Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. Guess we have a different punter demographic these days.
And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.

It's not 1999.

In the year 19999 I bought a rinky dinky condo for $72,000. Now it's approaching $300,000.

Grasp the concept People.

In 1999 My 🍟 man made $5. 69. Now the same same fries 🍟 man is pushing $25.

[11Bravo]

Why nis bandwidth being wasted on Dunkin Donuts. Why are Dunkin Donuts even relevant in Thailand.

Guess if you have a metered connection, bandwidth might be an issue. Or are you still using dialup? Certainly not on the server side. And some of us just might want to have something sweet with our coffee after a morning wakeup, and don't you offer your guest a pastry with her coffee?

Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. Guess we have a different punter demographic these days.
And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.

Seems to be a growing trend. I was quite surprised (and, I'll be honest, a little bit hurt) when someone I knew from last year asked for money before last week. Just contradictory to ALL my learnings... but not enough to nix the experience as I do know (biblical sense) her. Do I really need a haircut that bad?

[Goatscrot]

I did all the research for you:

Billboard 700 Bar, 4000 girl, pay the Mamasan first. Fabulous quality last night.

Geisha 1000 Bar, 3000 girl. Pay the girl. Again, great quality.

Rainbow 5 1000 Bar, 3000 girl, pay the girl, make sure you deal with the waitresses or Mamasan, so so quality.

Bunny's 1000 Bar 3000 girl, pay Mamasan. Decent quality.

Twister: too skeezy to ask.

I was told specifically by two Mamasans that the entire complex may go to Mamasan collections to protect the girls from non payers. Without making any judgements as to the truth, "Indian man not pay girl" was what I was told.

My cute bar fine last night (So cute I had to have her) told me that Mamasans are screening customers because "China man bad to girl".

There are three in Billboard I must have, and two in Rainbow 5, and one in Bunnys. Off to Cambo first to get my Visa finalized.

Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. Guess we have a different punter demographic these days.
And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.

[Raj Patela]

Good concise intel. How times change. Guess the days of pay AFTER are gone; shame, the pay AFTER was an oft recited mantra. But I can see the reasons and that happens in a number of countries and why certain nationalities are frowned on and even not welcome, so really not so weird. You talk to the girls basically anywhere and they'll tell you the reasons.

Can Mr. Ny. Identify which Nana Bar Indian s are Barfining at?

I don't see many indian s at Rainbow 4 and 5. Usually they don't get past security. 😂.

I'll come clean. I'm not Indian. 😂.

[Nyezhov]

I can't imagine what's going thru Mr Newtons mind. His hero is Writing about Dunkin Donuts 🍩. Is this how much Bangkok has fallen.

My answer to above is HELL YEAH.

I got nothing but School Girl to report on.

School girl was out tonight.

Why nis bandwidth being wasted on Dunkin Donuts. Why are Dunkin Donuts even relevant in Thailand.

[Banana Boi]

I can't imagine what's going thru Mr Newtons mind. His hero is Writing about Dunkin Donuts 🍩. Is this how much Bangkok has fallen.

Maybe they'll be hiring some Russian girls soon!

[11Bravo]

I did all the research for you:

Billboard 700 Bar, 4000 girl, pay the Mamasan first. Fabulous quality last night.

Geisha 1000 Bar, 3000 girl. Pay the girl. Again, great quality.

Rainbow 5 1000 Bar, 3000 girl, pay the girl, make sure you deal with the waitresses or Mamasan, so so quality.

Bunny's 1000 Bar 3000 girl, pay Mamasan. Decent quality.

Twister: too skeezy to ask.

I was told specifically by two Mamasans that the entire complex may go to Mamasan collections to protect the girls from non payers. Without making any judgements as to the truth, "Indian man not pay girl" was what I was told.

My cute bar fine last night (So cute I had to have her) told me that Mamasans are screening customers because "China man bad to girl".

There are three in Billboard I must have, and two in Rainbow 5, and one in Bunnys. Off to Cambo first to get my Visa finalized.

Good concise intel. How times change. Guess the days of pay AFTER are gone; shame, the pay AFTER was an oft recited mantra. But I can see the reasons and that happens in a number of countries and why certain nationalities are frowned on and even not welcome, so really not so weird. You talk to the girls basically anywhere and they'll tell you the reasons.