Bangkok Reports

[Elmo]

It has been 10 years since I last mongered and posted here. My last mongering trip was to Thailand in 2008, but I never posted the report. I got into a relationship. That has now ended. So I took a trip back to Thailand. Brief summary of my Bangkok experience in 2008, and my report from my just completed recent trip.

Back in 2008, I spent time in Phuket, on the beach by day and banging gogo girls at night, then traveled around Thailand a bit, and ended up in Bangkok, Arrived there in the afternoon, and then left on a midnight flight the following evening. Checked into a hotel near Soi Cowboy, and went down there that evening. Girls in front of bars trying to drag customers in. One place had several attractive girls in bikinis in front, as well as one girl in a short cocktail type dress standing with them. She was the prettiest of all of them. I started talking to her, as she spoke the best English, about how the club worked. Just playing dumb. She explained to me about taking a girl into the bar, having drinks with them, and if you like the girl, you could go home with her. I said "Okay, but what about you, would you like to have a drink with me?" She was a little surprised, but agreed. We had a couple of drinks and a very nice conversation. I then asked if she wanted go back to my room with me. I bar fined her. Paid the house, never gave her any money. No discussion of short time or long time, and don't remember what I paid. But since I HAD RTFF, it was not a lot that I paid. She was 23, had a Thai mother and Chinese father, had a 2 yr old son, was about 1.60 m (5'3") with thin legs, a narrow waist and very small breasts (which she was very shy about). She knew I had just arrived in Bangkok, and knew that I wanted to go see the sights the following day before leaving that night. We get back to my room, and she gets in the shower and then shouts, "won't you join me?". So I strip down and shower with her. We rub and massage all over each other in the shower. I dry off and wait for her on the bed. She finishes her shower and come out wrapped up in a towel, saying she is embarrassed about her small breasts, as western men like large breasts. Never mind that I had just been massaging and sucking her nipples in the shower 5 minutes earlier. I tell her she has a beautiful body and was the prettiest girl in the club. She proceeds to DFK me like crazy. Over next 2 hours, lots of DATY, BBBJ, multiple positions (w / condom), 2 pops for me and she cums a couple of times from my DATY efforts. Complete GFE. Next morning, another round of GFE action. We then shower together and have breakfast at the hotel restaurant. During breakfast, she says that she can show me Bangkok's tourist sites if I want. "Sure." I arrange for a late hotel check out and we then take skytrain to Saphan Taksin boat pier and take the Chao boats up to the palace and Wat Pho. Spend the day together seeing the sights. It was really cute watching her pray at the various buddhist shrines. Had street thai food for lunch and tried lots of different snacks that she suggested. Some were really good, others quite nasty. (Since she is Thai, she had free admission to all of the sights, while I had to pay). We retrace our way back, and at the Siam skytrain station she says that she will be taking the train in the other direction to go home. We say goodbye, I head back to the hotel, get cleaned up, have dinner and then head to the airport. Don't remember her name.

Fast Forward to 2018. After mongering in Phuket (will post a report in that thread) and traveling around Thailand and Laos for a bit, I arrive in Bangkok. Have learned some basic Thai words and phrases, as well as a few Lao words while I was sight seeing there. Stayed in a deluxe room at a nice hotel right near Soi Cowboy. Pullman.

NIGHT 1: Was looking to fuck a shy young spinner, and decided to check out Baccara. Wanted to see the Japanese type thing they have going there, with the glass floor and school girl uniforms. Get there after 10 and pay 180B for a beer out front. Go in and see that I should have gotten there a little earlier. Most of the hot girls already taken. Watch the topless dancing on the 2nd floor and see one with perfectly shaped, reasonable sized breasts. Not really moving very well on the dance floor and kind of looking down too much. About 1.55 m (5'1") and slender with cute round thai face. Have some drinks and try to decide if I can unleash her sexually energy with some DFK and DATY, or if she will total close up on me and be a terrible lay. Cannot make up my mind, so I decide to leave and try another bar. Went into Lighthouse. While there were some good looking girls there, they were a lot more hard core looking then what I wanted at that point, so I left after one beer and tried a 3rd bar. Forgot which one, but the talent level was pretty low there, and decided to head back to Baccara. It was about midnight then and I could just walk in, no purchase of a drink outside required. The same Baccara girl as before was still there, slowing dancing topless. I have another beer, and when she looks around, I catch her eye and wave her over. She is shocked. She grabs her shirt, puts it on and comes up to me asking, "Me? You want to talk to me?" I say "Yes, I want to buy you a drink and talk to you." She has a look of huge relief, says thank you over and over, as no one has talked to her or bought her a drink all night. We have a good conversation. She is 21 and in the university. Has started back up at Baccara a about 2 weeks ago because she needs the money. Had worked there for a few weeks the year before to pay for school. Okay, this looks promising. She asked me my age, and I lie to her that I am 42 (no, am older than that). She was not too pleased by that answer, and liked it even less when I joked later on that she was half my (fake) age. It was getting late, so I talked to her about bar fine. Drinks and bar fine total came to about 1500B (don't remember the exact breakdown, but think bar fine was 600-800 B). She wanted 3,000B for 1 hour ST or 6,000B for LT - of only 4 hours!! Never heard of LT of only 4 hours, plus was not willing to pay so much without knowing if I was going to get GFE or a dud. Given our chemistry, was hopeful for GFE, but was starting to get a little concerned.

We get back to room and she wants me to take a shower first. I had a lot of money in my pants pockets, so I carefully hide it in the bathroom, while in the shower. I roll it up and hide the money in my clothes as I leave the shower. She then showers, comes out, gives me a kiss on the lips and lays down on the bed. Her breasts were perfect and she knew it. Always showing them off. I try to DFK her and it is a no go. She does not want to kiss after that either. Fuck. She asks about a condom for a BJ, but I instead enjoy her breasts and then move to some DATY. She is a bit surprised by the DATY, starts to get a little turned on, and then demands that I stop. Puts her hand over her pussy, claiming she does not like DATY. Great. This experience is going to suck. I decided to just fuck her really hard. I fuck her covered in several positions. Best was her on top, looking at her beautiful breasts. During all of this, I keep trying to DFK or DATY her and she refuses. Eventually, I cum with her on top of me, fondling her perfect breasts. We chat for a bit afterwards, and I apologize for upsetting her about the DFK or the DATY. She gives me some story about how she could not get comfortable with just starting up again at Baccara, that ST was too short for her to relax, LT is better, etc. I had no interest in pouring any more money down this drain, so I thanked her for her time and saw her out the door. Bangkok action in 2018 appears to have significantly deteriorated, I think.

The next day, I go sightseeing downtown, come back to the hotel and have a swim in the pool, have dinner and then head out at about 9:30 pm to Soi Cowboy.

NIGHT 2: I wanted to visit the following bars that I had not tried the night before. Cowboy 2; Dollhouse; and Shark. Slowly walked down Soi Cowboy looking at the girls out front, looking for hot young spinners. Saw several possible candidate girls in front of one of these bars. Unfortunately, I don't remember which one it was, but decided to go in. Believe it was either Cowboy 2 or Dollhouse, but not sure which one. Waitress shows me a seat, overlooking the stage, gets me a beer and then starts asking about me. I lie and say I just got to Bangkok that afternoon, and will be there for three nights. She starts commenting on the girls - about how this one as good breasts, that one is very active in bed, do I want a skinny girl or a girl with big tits, etc. I tell her I just want to chill out and drink a beer, but when ready I will ask for her help. After a bit, including chatting some more with the waitress, several great looking girls come in and get up to dance on the far side of the stage. Waitress sees my eyes light up and asks which one do I want. I tell her I want to go walk around and look at them better. Two of them are amazing. One was cute and slightly shy on stage, other was gorgeous and very sexy on stage. I go sit back down and waitress asks who I like. I mention the two numbers that I was interested in, and she says, go with first one - the cute slightly shy one. Her name was "Pap" - 19 and had just arrived there three days ago from Issan (area of northern thailand up near Laos). Waitress says to me that I am nice, and if I treat Pap nicely, she would probably fall in love with me. Okay, waitress you have sold me on Pap. Waitress brings Pap over and I buy lady drinks for Pap and the waitress. Pap has the slenderest legs and arms. Tiny little butt and small perky tits. About 1. 52 m (5') maybe 40 kg (90 lbs) at the most, but probably less, as I later picked her up and easily carried her over my shoulder. She is not model beautiful, but instead has a super cute teenage face. She looks like she should be a high school cheerleader. I talk to Pap, mentioning the lao words I know, and she loves it. Her first language is Lao, since she is from northern Issan part of Thailand. After finishing her Lady drink, she gets up and goes to dance on a small stage on the far side of the bar. It was apparently her turn to dance there. Waitress, who saw the confused look on my face, asks what is wrong. I mention that I was hoping to bar fine Pap, but she just left to go dance. Waitress says, I will go talk to her. She comes back and says that if I buy Pap two more lady drinks, she will go with me for 1,0000B. I say okay, but lets go over to the small stage where she is at. I buy the waitress another lady drink, get two lady drinks for Pap, and she proceeds to dance extra sexy just for me. After a bit, I say okay, let's go. I give her the 1000B and she goes and changes. Waitress gives me a bill for 1250B on the drinks. I give her 1500B and she tries to have me let her keep the change. I play dumb as to what she is trying to do, and say bill is 1250B and I gave her 1500B and need my change. Waitress returns my change, I give the waitress 50B and she is very happy and gives me a kiss. She says "Good lover for Pap. You go with Pap every night" before walking away. Wow!

Pap comes back, dressed in street clothes. A tiny pair of shorts and a short little shirt. Looking like one of the cutest teens I have ever seen. All while I am thinking that my cock will be in her tight wet little pussy in a few minutes. We walk to my nearby hotel and she is being silly the whole way. Singing "Thank you, see you again tomorrow" over and over again on the way to the hotel, laughing the whole time. She is amazed by the fancy hotel lobby. We get in the elevator and take it up to my upper level room. Exiting the elevator, you can look down the many floors to the lobby and she is in awe. I say, let's go to my room, and she starts playing a silly game of going right when I point left, etc. laughing and having fun. I join in the silliness for a bit, and then pick her up, put her over my shoulder and carry her all the way to my room door. She is laughing the whole way. As I carry her, I am amazed at just how light and slender she is, as well as how firm every part of her body is. Enter the deluxe room and she is blown away by it. All of this supports that she is brand new in town. She does a tour of the entire place, while I go sit on the bed. She sees the minifridge, opens it and I ask if she wants a beer. Her eyes beam. She ends up drinking about 2/3 of a can of Singha. Using the free guest toothbrush, I suggest we brush our teeth. We do that, and then I go sit back to the bed, next to the 2 towels. She comes over takes off her top (no bra) pulls off my shirt, takes off her short, short shorts, and I see that she had no underwear on and a beautiful small clean shaven pussy. She points at my pants, and I quickly undress. She immediately grabs my hard cock with one hand, and gives me a deep, deep French kiss. Pushes me back down on top the bed, and lays on top of me French kissing me. My hands feel up her tiny hard body. With one hand I can almost grab her entire tiny butt. I roll her over so she is on the bed, start sucking her tits and then go for some DATY. She quickly cums very hard, lots of wet juice from her small little pussy. I put a condom on, and use a little lube, which she is curious about. I put some on her fingers and she rolls them around, checking out the lube. I then fuck her in missionary, doggie and her on top for a while. She cums again while on top and is a little tired I could see. I stop fucking her, and start cuddling and kissing her. But I lose most of my erection. When she tries to rub now softer cock, I take off the condom so she could give my a HJ. A little HJ, combined with some DFK, gets me rock hard again. I DATY her again, with one finger inside in her small wet pussy. She cums again going "fuck, fuck, fuck. " I immediately enter her (no condom) and we fuck like crazy. In missionary, I put her legs up on my shoulders, grab her tiny waist and pound her. Also lean way forward and DFK while fucking her. Almost want to cum but switch to doggy and fuck her hard. She climaxes with her pussy just pulsing like I have not experienced in a long, long time. I pull out and shoot a huge load on her back. (I almost cum in her pussy, and probably should have, but all while fucking her I was thinking, I am not 100% she would be proper effective birth control just yet, so I am not going to risk a CIP shot). I wipe up all of the cum off her back with one of the towels, which we had not used as neither of us had taken a shower yet. First time I have ever had a thai bar girl that did not shower before hand. But she was squeeky clean anyway.

She then lay face down on the bed and I started to massage her back. She wanted me to massage the back of her neck and I did so. After a few minutes, I was thirsty and grabbed some water and asked if she wanted some water. She wanted some more of her beer which I handed to her. I sat on the end of the bed and had a drink. She got up, took a sip of the beer and then sat on my lap, wanting me to further massage the back of her neck. I did so, then started massaging her perfect little breasts. I slid my hand down and slipped one finger into her wet pussy and fingered her. She got very wet, turned around, stuck her tongue down my throat, pushed me back down on to the bed, got on top of me and slid my bare cock into her tight pussy. She road me bareback on top for a while, and I almost shot a huge load deep into her. I was able to have her stop riding me. Moved to missionary, put her legs on my shoulders, grabbed her slender waist and pounded her hard. Pulled out just before cumming, and shot a huge load all over her stomach and chest. I then collapsed. She looked at all the cum and started spreading it around her. She says my name, says "good" and then goes and takes a shower. She comes back dressed in her tiny little shorts and shirt, looking just like a young highschool cheerleader again.

I say, hey I will walk you out of the hotel, thinking she would get lost on the way. I quickly get dressed and we leave arm in arm. She has no idea where to go, so I lead her to the elevator, down to the lobby, and out the front door. The whole time she is rubbing my arm, kissing my hand and reaching up and kissing my cheek. We turn down the street back towards Soi cowboy, and I notice 3 thai guys behind us who had been coming down the street. One of them says something. Pap immediately stops, lets go of my hand and then walks off. I look back at the 3 thai guys, but they turn around and quickly walk off in the opposite direction. Not sure what they said. I watch Pap walk away, thinking that could just be a gorgeous young girl that I fantasize about as I pass her on the street. But, instead I just had 2 plus hours of great bareback sex with her. Pap never looks bad.

I go back to my hotel, take a shower, and have a cold beer. Quickly fall asleep. Next morning, I wake up and I am rock hard. I think about Pap and, while that was not the absolute best sex I have ever had, I do not think I will be able to top that sex from this point forward: a super cute fresh young thing with 2 pops of super GFE bareback sex. I would love to try and top this experience, but I am being realistic here. I had it all for 2300B total, including all of the drinks and bar fine. With that I say "fuck it", and jerk off, thinking about Pap and her hot wet pussy. I quickly shoot another huge load just from masturbating about her, and then go take a shower. I head down for a huge buffet breakfast, and get a late hotel check out. Later on, I head to the airport and the flight home all while thinking, maybe I should postpone my flight one day, stay one more night in Bangkok and do a repeat performance with Pap. Maybe I should even cum in her pussy this time, rather than all over her. But, I decide against it. A couple hours into my flight I think back to how 24 hours ago, I was living out a teenage cheerleader sex fantasy with her. And now someone else will get to experience her. "Thank you but sorry I did not see you again tomorrow".

Bangkok 2018 - both good and bad. Your mileage may vary.

[Elmo]

Alright guys. Enough of this nonsense. Back to business.

Getting what you want from a Thai working girl can be frustrating at times. With all the horror stories on the forum such as runners, starfishes, no BBFS, no BBBJ, no CIM, no GFE, no PSE, no photos, no video, and mechanical experiences, we mongers need to be constantly be on our toes to make sure we get what we want. In this post, I will outline some sure fire ways that should get you what you want most of the time. Of course, there will be some loss causes. With these ladies, no matter what you do, how much you pay, what you say, or how you act, she will still deliver a bad experience.

BKK Dog.

Everyone wanting better service from girls should follow these important tips.

Another one: there is a saying - "treat a lady like a working girl, and a working girl like a lady. ".

I always try to treat the P4 P.S. Girls I have had nicely. If they gal is completely jaded, then nothing will work for them. I sense that and move on to ones who will appreciate being treated nicely, and usually get well rewarded for my efforts.

Have not been active for over 10 years until this just completed trip to Thailand. Will post trip reports.

[Syzygies]

LOL. I'm not writing a book and no selected previews were taken from ISG either. Everything is based on my own experiences. I was just getting a lot of PMs and there were many questions about this stuff on the board so I took it upon myself to write it. Saves me the time of answering the thousand PMs I have. The funny thing is I still see the same questions after I posted. Nobody likes to RTFF.

I found the easy solution was to switch off PMs, in general. 555.

[Member #4591]

Thank you.

If you haven't negotiated in advance, is protected sex the norm? Or do the girls do BBFS as long as you don't bring out a condom?

Is it a different story with bargirls compared to massage girls from places like Tulips?

Has the vasectomy affected your stamina or sex drive in any way? Do you also do BB anal?

So how do you get BBFS then? How to get what you want? Check out my post.

[EihTooms]

Thank you.

If you haven't negotiated in advance, is protected sex the norm? Or do the girls do BBFS as long as you don't bring out a condom?

Is it a different story with bargirls compared to massage girls from places like Tulips?

Has the vasectomy affected your stamina or sex drive in any way? Do you also do BB anal?

Vaginal intercourse with condom is the norm in Thailand's P4P scene. Anal sex, too, of course, for those girls who allow it. It does happen on occasion that neither of you bringing a condom, or claiming not to have brought one, or neither of you mentioning it will result in the girl going ahead with BBFS+CIP anyway. Bkkdog's latest couple of overviews do a good job of covering many of the How and Why factors that can help make that happen. However, do not be surprised if doing everything "right" according to his or anyone else's recommendations on this subject still results in a girl adamantly refusing to go forward with bareback intercourse even at the point where she has spread her legs and you are poised to enter her vagina. It has certainly happened to me often enough that I rarely engage in that kind of "go with the flow and see what happens" method anymore.

More often than not these days I ask beforehand in the bar or wherever I have met the girl. The "go with the flow and see what happens" method is fine for guys for whom going BB is great but having to wear a condom is still pretty good. I am not one of those guys. For me, going BB is great but having to wear a condom means I will not be having intercourse and finishing at all. Period. Therefore, except for the very rare instances where I am so smitten by a girl that I am willing to risk paying whatever the going rate is just to wind up eating her pussy and get no satisfaction for myself tonight, I will not be engaging in a "go with the flow and see what happens" method.

Personally, I have had MUCH better success getting BBFS+CIP from go-go bargirls than with any massage shop girl in any shop at anytime, including the highly praised "PSE" shop, Tulip. Then again, I hate massage shops because I find the experience and the girls to be too mechanical and utterly lacking in sensuality and eroticism. Therefore, I very, very rarely bother wasting my time, emotion and money going to them or taking girls who work in them out on a barfine. Again, Bkkdog discusses his success rate in getting both BBFS and BBFS+CIP at those kinds of shop with a special mention of Tulip.

Getting a vasectomy was one of the best decisions of my life. I have experienced zero negative side effects from it and it has helped me to better enjoy thousands upon thousands of bareback sexual encounters without worry that I or someone else will have to pay for it with an unwanted or unplanned pregnancy.

I am not into any butt-play other than sometimes going doggie with a girl so I can enjoy the sight of her fine butt while fucking her. Oh, and squeezing and kissing her butt if so inspired. I tried anal with a girlfriend a couple of times many years ago and just wasn't all that impressed. Certainly not enough to justify the extra hassle. So the issue of anal sex, covered or BB, has never come up for me with a working girl anywhere.

[Steve 9696]

LOL. I'm not writing a book and no selected previews were taken from ISG either. Everything is based on my own experiences. I was just getting a lot of PMs and there were many questions about this stuff on the board so I took it upon myself to write it. Saves me the time of answering the thousand PMs I have. The funny thing is I still see the same questions after I posted. Nobody likes to RTFF.

It is true people don't like to RTTF but this is only because I have to sift through so much crap to find the nuggets. If it was just summarized it would be so much easier (as you have done). However the ironic thing is if each location was concisely summarized you wouldn't really need the forum. It's a conundrum!

But anyhow your summary of Bangkok is TRULY helpful. I've only done the Soi cowboy gogos and my friend swears by Poseidon but now I see there is so much more. I think I will try the nightclubs next time. In Brazil they have nightclubs with onsite rooms (Boates) and I really liked that format.

The other thing I appreciate is your thoughts on being presentable and being a gentleman. I, like you, am completely convinced this affects service level, no matter what others say. I also believe we owe it to the girls. Theirs is one tough job. We should make it as pleasant as humanly possible for them IMO. At least that is how I approach it and hope there is a small faction that feel likewise.

[Member #4591]

Dog are you by any chance in the process of writing a how to do monger in Thailand book with some selected previews available on ISG. While a tad smug in its tone and personally of little value to me having developed my own system over the past 20 years developed my own system I have to admit it well written and an insightful look into its subject matter.

LOL. I'm not writing a book and no selected previews were taken from ISG either. Everything is based on my own experiences. I was just getting a lot of PMs and there were many questions about this stuff on the board so I took it upon myself to write it. Saves me the time of answering the thousand PMs I have. The funny thing is I still see the same questions after I posted. Nobody likes to RTFF.

[JRoberto]

How to get what you want from a working girl in BKK

A Senior's Experience in BKK

Thanks so much for your 2 recent mega posts.

I've had a couple of previous solo visits to BKK, so I worked out some of this stuff, but it's invaluable to have such a good refresher, and update on the new stuff like Thai Friendly.

Anyway, I will be in BKK for 4 days from next Thursday 29 Nov, putting some of it into practice I hope.

Again, thanks.

Rob.

[Kalle Kula]

Speaking as a man who can truthfully tell a Thai working girl in a bar or on the street that he has had a vasectomy so will not make her pregnant and has a recent negative HIV test document (from Thai Red Cross) if she wants to see it, I'd say my percentage of getting a girl to agree to BBFS+CIP (I guess we are now required to stipulate BBFS+CIP for clarification? Ok. It used to be just saying BBFS was enough) runs about 30-35%. With dating site girls or regular girls working in malls and restaurants around town it is higher, maybe more like 75%.

I don't always mention either of those factors unless it feels like it might help get a Yes from the girl. For example, last night I took a dancer with one of the top three best bodies in the place from Twisters BKK go-go bar after a single LD. In the bar she agreed to BBFS (ok, ok, BBFS+CIP! LOL) with me within a few minutes and after zero discussion about possible pregnancy or medical test documents. 1000 baht barfine and 2000 to the girl..

Thank you.

If you haven't negotiated in advance, is protected sex the norm? Or do the girls do BBFS as long as you don't bring out a condom?

Is it a different story with bargirls compared to massage girls from places like Tulips?

Has the vasectomy affected your stamina or sex drive in any way? Do you also do BB anal?

[PiedIPie]

I tried Pin recently, was slim and friendly, but her services were pretty average. Seemed to be going through motions.

I repeated Pin, the freelancer from Soi 4, the service was good this time. I joked around with her, which made the session better. The kissing was slow and better than the last time. Then I got a slow BJ followed by sex in in multiple positions. Ended it with BBBJ and CIM. Pin was very enthusiastic, even though the session was long. I would recommend her now.

[Blanquiceleste]

In my case, I only asked you a question.

LOL. This quibbling over semantics may impress a toothless hooker willing to give a BBBJ + CIM (to completion) behind a dumpster in Sanam Luang.

Why don't you move along to another website that you might understand better and makes you happier?

Does anyone else think of this statement as a harmless question?

This site is probably not the best place for you to work out your "mother" issues.

So much for asking questions only. What is this now? Oh, I know. Opinion. Haha.

[Aviator12]

Now to sum up, these methods are not 100% full proof but they have worked for me for the last 7 years in Thailand and the previous 4 years in other Asian countries. Jai Dee or good men get what they want more often than not in this country. I hope my best practices will work for some of you as well as they have worked for me. Happy mongering in BKK.

BKK Dog.

Excellent post. Cudos to you Sir Dog. This is exactly my experience also after 10 years of mongering in Bangkok. Your advise might not get down well with all punters, but unless you are extremely unattractive physically, these advice will get you a long way.

[Franciscass]

Now to sum up, these methods are not 100% full proof but they have worked for me for the last 7 years in Thailand and the previous 4 years in other Asian countries. Jai Dee or good men get what they want more often than not in this country. I hope my best practices will work for some of you as well as they have worked for me. Happy mongering in BKK.

Dog are you by any chance in the process of writing a how to do monger in Thailand book with some selected previews available on ISG. While a tad smug in its tone and personally of little value to me having developed my own system over the past 20 years developed my own system I have to admit it well written and an insightful look into its subject matter.

[Member #4591]

Alright guys. Enough of this nonsense. Back to business.

Getting what you want from a Thai working girl can be frustrating at times. With all the horror stories on the forum such as runners, starfishes, no BBFS, no BBBJ, no CIM, no GFE, no PSE, no photos, no video, and mechanical experiences, we mongers need to be constantly be on our toes to make sure we get what we want. In this post, I will outline some sure fire ways that should get you what you want most of the time. Of course, there will be some loss causes. With these ladies, no matter what you do, how much you pay, what you say, or how you act, she will still deliver a bad experience.

Number 1, look nice. Out with the flip flops, tank tops, running shoes, old clothes, scuffed up shoes, unkept hair, bad hygiene, bad breath, and bad odors. Use deodorant, put on cologne, and buy some decent clothes. A well dressed and well groomed man garners respect from a Thai girl. If you look healthy and successful, your chances of getting what you want will increase 10 fold. The girls will be more comfortable and less inhibited with a man like this, you will get that BBFS / CIP encounter you are hoping for. The ladies will want to spend time with a man like this. She will let you go BB, cum in her pussy, fuck her ass, give you multiple pops and so on.

Number 2, be generous. You can be generous with the ladies without being a push over. Buy lady drinks for her and a select few of her friends. Tip small amounts but do it consistently. This goes a long way. Face is very important in Thai culture. These girls become proud if they bring a good customer into the bar or massage shop. If your actions give the lady good face in front of their peers, they will reward you in the bedroom. Don't be the Keneow (stingy) customer. In the massage shop, give a big tip once and while. You will be talked about amongst the ladies. The next time you go in, your chosen lady will most likely know who you are and go the extra mile to make you happy. I love the girls who when you ask how much, they say up to you. Does anyone know why they say that? It is because you have done all the right things up to that point and they feel comfortable and secure with you to go with the flow. These girls will never ask you how much you will pay and are happy receiving a fair amount the next morning or after your session. Once, during a night of partying at Sharks in Soi Cowboy, I spent 800 Baht on 4 large pizzas for the staff and girls in the bar. Needless to say, I had a complete and 100% genuine GFE from my lady that night. Pure BBFS, CIP, CIM, and multiple pops. No mention of a condom whatsoever. On another occasion I took the girl LT from a Go Go bar to Above Eleven roof top bar. I only spent 1,500 baht on a few cocktails. Back in my room, she commented on how I was such a gentlemen and took care of her very well. Needless to say, she fucked my brains out in the room BB and let me cum in her pussy. I have a really hot 22 year old Vietnamese girl I see often. I posted about her already on ISG in the foreign working girls thread. She has to be one of the hottest Asian girls I have ever been with. More about her later but my generosity and politeness paid off in the end.

Number 3, don't get hung up on the small details and don't talk too much. Thai girls hate men who talk too much and include many details in the interaction. Go with the flow. More often than not, if you go with the flow, the condom, number of pops, BBBJ, CIM and so on will become a non- issue because the girl will genuinely be happy to spend time with you and make you happy. She will get lost in the heat of the moment and give you that true GFE or PSE session you are looking for.

Number 3, be polite. Politeness goes a long way with the ladies. Learn some of the language. Ask about their families. Open doors for them. Escort them to the toilet if you take them to the bar after you bar fine them. You will be amazed what you will get from them in the bedroom. I can just hear the skeptics now. " She is a hooker, why would you care about how she feels and what she thinks?" This is the wrong attitude to have. Most working girls do this part time and are normal girls during the day. They are real people with real feelings. If you care only about how much the encounter will cost you, then you will fail. However, if you want to get what you want and that is really important to you, follow these guidelines. Especially if you are on holidays. You want to have the best dam time you can. This will ensure your success. I often see a Vietnamese working girl here in BKK. I sometimes take her for dinner before our session. We go to a nice restaurant. I listen to her problems and give her advice. Then I take her back to my room and fuck her brains out BB and CIP. She has to be the one of the hottest 22 year old Asian girls I have been with hands down. Not an ounce of fat on her, natural see cups, and an ass to die for. She charges me 3000 Baht where others ay 5-6 K. She just told me yesterday that I know her better than she knows herself. I fucking love Asia. You can see my original post about her after our first session in the foreign working girls thread. It just got better and better every time we were together. The BBFS started in our 3rd session together.

Number four. Get them tipsy. This might seem a little dodgy and maybe you are thinking along the lines of this is taking advantage of a drunk girl. That's not the case at all. You are not making them so drunk where they lose consciousness and you fuck then BB and CIP. That's [CodeWord123] and I don't condone that at all. Just get them tipsy enough where they lose their shyness and open up enough so they feel more comfortable with you.

Finally, brush up on your dady and foreplay skills. If you give the lady excellent DATY and make her cum, in most cases, she will want to return the favor. This has been the difference between me getting BBFS or not on many occasions. For example, as the session begins, the lady places the condom beside you and her on the bed. Now the foreplay starts. You go in for DATY, after you make her cum several times, she is so caught up in the moment, she will allow you to fuck her BB and or give you that BBBJ with CIM. This works for me 80% of the time.

Now to sum up, these methods are not 100% full proof but they have worked for me for the last 7 years in Thailand and the previous 4 years in other Asian countries. Jai Dee or good men get what they want more often than not in this country. I hope my best practices will work for some of you as well as they have worked for me. Happy mongering in BKK.

BKK Dog.

[EihTooms]

Ouch! Did I hurt this "senior" member's feelings? Or is this the all too familiar "come-out-swinging-big-when-cornered" response?

Either ways, I don't care. And I don't think this forum needs a mother telling us what to do.

This site is probably not the best place for you to work out your "mother" issues. In my case, I only asked you a question. I didn't order you to stop doing whatever it is you've been doing in the bathroom for so long and go clean your room.