Bangkok Reports

[Syzygies]

LOL all I did was copy and paste. LOL I'm too lazy to re-type.

You just click on "Reply with Quote". It is that easy. Copy and paste is quite wrong, as appears to be like a Copycat or interpreted as your own words.

[Goatscrot]

I consider ordering one drink and milking that over 4 hours to be tantamount to ordering nothing. The staff notices which type of customers do that and it's those type of customers who get the bad rep. People can try to call it racism or discrimination for reasons other than monetary, but it is not. It's simply that those type of people are not making them money. If you owned a gogo where every guy in there was milking one drink all night, you would quickly go bankrupt. Who can blame them for not wanting that type of guy as a customer?

Depends on what they are charging for a drink. I rarely go to GoGos because drinks are a ripoff. And no, they used to not be. The agency nonsense has sent things sky high. Now Pattaya is different from BKK; almost every bar has a 100 Baht draft. Some BKK bars are catching on and starting this practice as well. Most businesses here don't get volume. And one of the main reasons is; if they are doing volume, the lazy staff has to work harder.

[BlazeJohnny03]

I had heard it is great for sex, cheap and relatively easy to get. Just wanted to try some while over there.

[Smoothy]

It's fairly difficult for anyone to sit in a gogo bar for long without having to order a first drink. After that they can milk the drink as long as they want. Never seen a gogo bar forcing someone to order a second drink, at least in Pattaya.

I consider ordering one drink and milking that over 4 hours to be tantamount to ordering nothing. The staff notices which type of customers do that and it's those type of customers who get the bad rep. People can try to call it racism or discrimination for reasons other than monetary, but it is not. It's simply that those type of people are not making them money. If you owned a gogo where every guy in there was milking one drink all night, you would quickly go bankrupt. Who can blame them for not wanting that type of guy as a customer?

[Rob Jones]

A Classic post that some will disagree with, but is "spot on" for me. Rob should have quoted properly. I am "Jai Dee" (for useful people) but still ignore people that are of no interest to me.

LOL all I did was copy and paste. LOL I'm too lazy to re-type.

But after reading post after it I think I understand what Jai Dee means.

Rob.

[EihTooms]

For sure I don't question it, and surprises me that you question it. Gossip is rife in the bar. Some girls or staff will tell me that certain girls are not for me, meaning well, since I treat my info source girls well. Equally well girls hear plenty of gossip about the customers, which maybe true, or greatly exaggerated. They will know a surprising amount of detail about what things you like to do in the room, unless the girl is too ashamed to mention she went along with it to her friends. Girls will know if you typically cum in 5 minutes or 50 minutes, quite likely.

Plenty of times a mamasan or other staff member will tell some newbie girl that I am a guy to be trusted, as have a good reputation. On the other hand I have been subject to undesirable gossip. E. g. , girls get to hear that I fuck for long time and don't come quick. Girls get to hear that I used to always / mostly take 2 girls at a time from Suzie Wong. One girl who does not like to do threesomes, and possibly having a delicate pussy, used to avoid me for over a year. Eventually she saw from her own observation that I was popular among good girls in the bar, and not cheap Charlie. She finally decided to approach me because she knew that her looks were special to me. Soon she became my regular girl, for normal non threesome bookings, because she found out I was a very worthwhile customer, despite rumours, and despite previously taking several different girls. There was nothing so bad to be avoided. She was superior to most girls in looks and style. Her fears of me due to gossip were totally unfounded really. She would handle that I cum slow as long as did not get a pounding.

I have been refused by hookers without knowing why on occasions. However very likely to be due to gossip about how I am and what I do, I. E. Reputation, or sometimes purely because I previously refused the girl when she approached me. There are several possibilities.

I do get to hear about reputation of other customers in the bar. I. e. The girl will say that a particular guy is a heavy groper, or a total waste of space and time, or cheap Charlie, or Mr. Stinky. Etc. There are guys that will be avoided, and others that are considered easy prey, or Psycho guys, etc. So not only is the general reputation of your peers from a Culture considered, but also personal reputation (which is much fairer). Personal good reputation can overcome the reputation of your peers..

I assume you realize most of what you posted has nothing to do with you or anyone else "doing something behind closed doors that would give you a bad reputation", right?

So it takes you longer to cum than others. Do you now work yourself into a frenzy to finish quickly for fear that the girls will talk about you and you'll get a bad reputation?

Some girl thinks you "belong" to another hooker. Since when is that something anyone can or should even bother trying to avoid by trying to "behave" themselves in some bizarre fashion behind closed doors?

You have been rejected by hookers without knowing why. Join the club. Every punter has had that happen, I'd wager every man reading this forum, and the chances of it having anything to do with those hookers hearing about some dastardly deed he committed behind closed doors is extremely remote.

Let me put it this way; an example I used of a no grey area act that ought to earn a punter a bad enough reputation to seriously put a crimp in his ability to get another girl in the bar to go with him was putting a girl out with little or no money even though she provided fair or decent agreed upon service. Well, I have put out several girls from various bars around town with little or no money. But never after they gave fair or decent agreed upon service. Only when it was clear to me they had lied in order to be barfined and were scamming me. That is a response I happily recommend anyone do under those same circumstances. And to whatever extent those girls talked about what I had done "behind closed doors", I am quite certain they bad mouthed the shit out of me and did not come close to telling the truth.

So what? I promise you I have never felt shunned by the better looking girls or any girls in those same bars. And I sure would not hand full payment to an obvious (to me) scammer out of fear that she would gossip me into a bad reputation. On the contrary, a much worse reputation to avoid in my book is to have scammers talk up what a roll over I am, willing to pay full fare for practically nothing. And you don't have to be an asshole to keep that clear with whoever must gossip about you afterwards. You can be as congenial as anyone about it, imo.

[Nyezhov]

I note in number 7 below the Thai word I used got edited out. The reference was don't be someone who Thais will call a monitor lizard. Don't be rude, overbearing, smelly, howling noisy drunk, gropy, greedy, loud, arrogant, mean, violent, cheap or stupid.

[Nyezhov]

Thai girls like guys that are "Jai Dee", however there have to be limits to it.

Yep, I can see that you know what it is. Guys it's something inside. It's raining and ya broke your coffee mug and they overcharged your electric bill by two whole euros. Fuck yeah dude hey I'm alive, let's go to the Thai National Museum and study rice baskets and then get a beer. And a BJ O YEAH, yeehaww, life is good, hey baby before ya start sucking did I tell you about my coffee mug what a great day.

That's Jai Dee. Not getting on the Internet and bitching about your electric bill and Thai folks all be thieves. Bet the BJ girl will feel that attitude.

You are in Thailand. You are alive. What more do you need? Ya ain't got the misery of being stuck in traffic in LA, or wintering in Manchester or catering to some fat bitchy wife or being an Arsenal fan. You are in Thailand getting gobbled by a cute 20 year old. I can't wait till tomorrow maybe I'll have the trots. What an interesting day!

[Syzygies]

While I mostly agree with everything else in your post, this part is wide open to subjective interpretation, imo. Yet I have not read anyone else questioning it, as though it is universally understood what one could do behind closed doors in this hobby, let's say in Thailand specifically, that "gets you a bad reputation".

Would you or anyone else who has already read this but not questioned it care to list a few things that punters do behind closed doors that would in a meaningful way make it difficult for them to take another girl in the bar because the girls talked badly about it?

For sure I don't question it, and surprises me that you question it. Gossip is rife in the bar. Some girls or staff will tell me that certain girls are not for me, meaning well, since I treat my info source girls well. Equally well girls hear plenty of gossip about the customers, which maybe true, or greatly exaggerated. They will know a surprising amount of detail about what things you like to do in the room, unless the girl is too ashamed to mention she went along with it to her friends. Girls will know if you typically cum in 5 minutes or 50 minutes, quite likely.

Plenty of times a mamasan or other staff member will tell some newbie girl that I am a guy to be trusted, as have a good reputation. On the other hand I have been subject to undesirable gossip. E. g. , girls get to hear that I fuck for long time and don't come quick. Girls get to hear that I used to always / mostly take 2 girls at a time from Suzie Wong. One girl who does not like to do threesomes, and possibly having a delicate pussy, used to avoid me for over a year. Eventually she saw from her own observation that I was popular among good girls in the bar, and not cheap Charlie. She finally decided to approach me because she knew that her looks were special to me. Soon she became my regular girl, for normal non threesome bookings, because she found out I was a very worthwhile customer, despite rumours, and despite previously taking several different girls. There was nothing so bad to be avoided. She was superior to most girls in looks and style. Her fears of me due to gossip were totally unfounded really. She would handle that I cum slow as long as did not get a pounding.

I have been refused by hookers without knowing why on occasions. However very likely to be due to gossip about how I am and what I do, I. E. Reputation, or sometimes purely because I previously refused the girl when she approached me. There are several possibilities.

I do get to hear about reputation of other customers in the bar. I. e. The girl will say that a particular guy is a heavy groper, or a total waste of space and time, or cheap Charlie, or Mr. Stinky. Etc. There are guys that will be avoided, and others that are considered easy prey, or Psycho guys, etc. So not only is the general reputation of your peers from a Culture considered, but also personal reputation (which is much fairer). Personal good reputation can overcome the reputation of your peers.

Another problem can occur where girls may avoid a guy, if he is seen as "belonging" to some girl in the bar, who won't take kindly to others trying to "steal" her customer. This is absolute bullshit from the customer point of view, since it is our choice, and we are not married to the girl. One girl this year did a tantrum while drunk (and possibly on substances) since I don't take her any more. She just started work in Shark. She seems a bit psycho these days. I used to take her a lot years ago but then her body was great and while she was crazy she was fun. Now she has had a baby, her ass is now fattish rather than sleek, her pussy has altered and does not suit me anymore since her baby some time back in Suzie Wong (possibly doctor stitched her up a bit to taunt). Most of all she is now too crazy to be tolerable. However hard for her to understand why I have moved on. She used to think she had semi ownership, most likely. Fortunately has not affected my current regular girls in Shark. I enjoy a very good reputation there, which unfortunately then has to lead to keeping undesired girls away. Two favourite girls there is enough for me, so I can't be generous and buy drinks for any of their "friends" on a regular basis. Two well treated girls is plenty.

If a girl is popular in a bar, and she has several guys interested in her concurrently, your reputation could count for a lot, if she does not know you well personally. Customers with good reputation will be at the front of the queue.

Guys well known at Bacarra with good reputation and known to be not a waste of space, won't get asked to buy a drink before entry most likely. I did get asked to buy a drink first, probably because totally unknown by the doormen, and maybe I look like a hard type (deceptive). Will refusing to buy a drink before entry count in my favour next time? LOL Of course not if they remember me (unlikely - it's too long ago).

[EihTooms]

And behind closed doors, don't do anything that gets you a bad reputation. They will talk to each other..

Truer words were never spoken. That's how I roll anywhere. Why'all can argue about Mr. Paws techniques and psychological state all you want, but that's how the world works.

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While I mostly agree with everything else in your post, this part is wide open to subjective interpretation, imo. Yet I have not read anyone else questioning it, as though it is universally understood what one could do behind closed doors in this hobby, let's say in Thailand specifically, that "gets you a bad reputation".

Would you or anyone else who has already read this but not questioned it care to list a few things that punters do behind closed doors that would in a meaningful way make it difficult for them to take another girl in the bar because the girls talked badly about it?

I suspect I have done things behind closed doors that many posters here believe ought to make it almost impossible for another girl in the bar who heard about it to happily go with me and deliver very good service anyway. But I can't think of one time where that actually happened.

Of course, I'm not hazy on things like beating up the girls or kicking them out with little or no money/fee despite their giving fair and decent agreed upon service. There is no grey area in that kind of behavior. But there is a whole lot of other stuff some punters do far short of that kind of thing that other guys might say the girls will surely talk about and, therefore, the perpetrators might as well avoid that bar for a good long while.

Like what?

[Syzygies]

Not only is this great advice it is funny as fuck. The whole post is worth printing puts everything into perspective.

Yes I like Mr Nyezhov's advice too. Great point made. A Classic post that some will disagree with, but is "spot on" for me. Rob should have quoted properly. I am "Jai Dee" (for useful people) but still ignore people that are of no interest to me. No Cheap Charlie. Just like we enjoy lots of girls, they give lots of guys a good dirty time. You don't ever want to serious during a sex session or with hookers. Its about having fun. If there is no fun, move on. I think Nyezhov covered all of that well.

Thai girls like guys that are "Jai Dee", however there have to be limits to it.

[Bubba Boy]

1. It's your life and RFF.

3. Treat folks like you want to be treated. If they treat you like shit after you been nice, move on.

4. That stunner #47 just took a load in her mouth right before you. She's 20 and you are 60. Don't fall in love.

Not only is this great advice it is funny as fuck. The whole post is worth printing puts everything into perspective.

[Rob Jones]

1. It's your life and RFF.

2. Everyone gets ripped off one in a while. Try being married if you don't believe that.

3. Treat folks like you want to be treated. If they treat you like shit after you been nice, move on.

4. That stunner #47 just took a load in her mouth right before you. She's 20 and you are 60. Don't fall in love.

5. If folks don't like you because of your race creed nationality colour or religion, fuck them and move on. There aren't other places to go?

6. Jai Dee.

7. Don't be a. Don't be a Cheap Charlie.

8. Some coochie is better than others, but there ain't a lot of bad coochie.

9. Same with BJs.

10. You are walking on top of the ground instead of laying underneath it. Therefore it's a great day no matter what. Did I say Jai Dee?

I'll be there in October for a 6 month stay. Maybe I'll go to Baccara. I can speak bad Japanese, that will keep them amused. Watashi wa echi ojisan 555. And if I'm not treated nice, or if it isn't fun. I'll leave.

NB. If I would have seen MP doing public boom boom motions I would have laughed my ass off. It's all about FUN guys, death is serious and pussy ain't.

Good advice. At times we all take ourselves too seriously and the 2 main points are if your alive you are doing well and bad sex is better then no sex LOL.

[D Cups]

I've been hanging out in Pattaya, HK, and HCM more than BKK. .

Nice rack on that one MP, thanks.

[Decpticon]

Hi,

Did any one try No 1 angelescort.

Did any one try Nana and Karita. Can you give your experiences and suggestions.