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  1. #40526
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    They'll quote you 2000, but usually come down to 1000 for ST, or maybe 1500 if you're unlucky. Lower Suk streetwalkers are not exactly upmarket, and Africans there are neither especially exotic (there are dozens of them), nor good looking. Africans seem hardcore, out to maximize earnings by turning as many tricks as possible, rather than just to earn enough for the night and go home as some Thai freelancers do. I doubt LT is what many Africans are after. Maybe if it's getting late, but even then, it won't be cheap.

    In recent years, I've been reluctant to do LT in Thailand. Service is too much of a hit-and-miss these days, and I'd hate to either pay the LT price for ST or worse, sleep next to someone who'd rather not be there. Maybe negotiate both an ST and LT rate, and extend the ST if it goes well.
    Cool, thanks. True, that encounter did get me thinking about how unpleasant it would be to sleep next to someone who'd feel trapped in my hotel room for the night. I disagree that the African FLs aren't good-looking though—obviously some are hotter than others, but I wouldn't paint them with so broad a brush. What did kill the buzz a bit, though, besides the surly attitude of the one I approached, was that her English wasn't as good as I was expecting (or was led to believe by some blog posts floating around). Oh well, the prospect of banging one of those girls was good fantasy fodder for 8 or 9 months, ha.

  2. #40525
    Quote Originally Posted by VeloDots  [View Original Post]
    Anyway, what is the going rate for the African FLs? One named Joanne quoted 2000 for 1 hour and 7000 for long time. I thought I had read somewhere that they would throw out ridiculous numbers just to bait you, but in reality you could go long time for 1500.
    They'll quote you 2000, but usually come down to 1000 for ST, or maybe 1500 if you're unlucky. Lower Suk streetwalkers are not exactly upmarket, and Africans there are neither especially exotic (there are dozens of them), nor good looking. Africans seem hardcore, out to maximize earnings by turning as many tricks as possible, rather than just to earn enough for the night and go home as some Thai freelancers do. I doubt LT is what many Africans are after. Maybe if it's getting late, but even then, it won't be cheap.

    In recent years, I've been reluctant to do LT in Thailand. Service is too much of a hit-and-miss these days, and I'd hate to either pay the LT price for ST or worse, sleep next to someone who'd rather not be there. Maybe negotiate both an ST and LT rate, and extend the ST if it goes well.

  3. #40524
    Quote Originally Posted by TomSf  [View Original Post]
    Bionicman,

    You don't know a girl is not a pro. The minute she is taking money she is a pro. First rule in Thailand is don't believe anything they say. Smartest thing is pay going rate with all girls. But if you like to believe what these women say Ignorance is bliss.
    Bionicman was being ironic. He knows they are pros, which is why he said "Never forget to drop a couple of thousands bahts in the morning. ".

  4. #40523
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    Hmmm, I'm going to check that out next time I'm in Bangkok. It sounds like an interesting place if you can avoid abuse from the owner and staff, https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attracti...-Bangkok.html..
    There is actually a bit of truth to the ornery disposition of the owner. Its part of the charm of the place and you can easily get kicked out of there for what can seemingly be nothing at all. The place most commonly attracts some rough people. It is, after all, a late, late night establishment and its common to witness some belligerent a-holes doing something disrespectful to a patron or a bar hand. I think years and years of dealing with this has made the owner a bit testy.

  5. #40522
    Quote Originally Posted by VeryScary  [View Original Post]
    Will be in Bangkok for the first time in a few weeks. I've watched many videos and hidden camera videos online and I'm interested in checking out thermae. I know they're really into Asian guys at that place but westerners are welcome too. Do any of you guys know if black American men are received well at thermae or should I just scratch that place off the list?
    I have strolled through Thermae with an African American friend a couple of times in the past year and many, many of the attractive ladies meet his gaze with inviting smiles. He even got several audible "ohh"s of approval from several girls as we passed by. In neither case did either of us stay long enough to focus on specific girls to choose because those particular times we just passed through around 9:30 pm out of curiosity on our way to somewhere else. But I feel confident that he could have chosen any one of 2-3 dozen girls to walk out with him those nights.

    He is clean cut, ex-military, was dressed neat and dapper in casual slacks, hard soled shoes, tucked in Polo type shirt. Mid-60's and looks it. Still, proportionate weight to his height. He smiled sincerely as we strolled through. We both did.

  6. #40521
    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin69  [View Original Post]
    I found a nice girl on wechat, hairdresser by day, more than adequate English, and GFE. Much cheaper than my smoochie date for 2 hrs
    the following day. If you want wechat ID, PM me.
    Hi bro,

    Can you please share the wechat ID.

    Visiting next month.

    Thanks.

  7. #40520
    Quote Originally Posted by Stykler  [View Original Post]

    By the way, Tripadvisor long ago ceased to be a reliable source of information. It is riddled with self promotion reviews and toxic reviews for commercial reasons. I am a big traveller and I don't even have Tripadvisor bookmarked anymore, it's too conflicted.
    I think that's a bit too sweeping in generalizations Styk to disregard Trip Advisor altogether although I know what you are saying.

    I am also a "big traveller" (for mostly work), and I always check out a range of reviews in TA on any one place I intend to visit and I can usually sort out the genuine reviews from the toxic or self-promoting ones.

    IMHO, if there are a preponderance of negative reviews then that is a red flag, but a good mix of positive and some negative is also a good guide. I have a group of friends and we regularly post bonafide reviews of all places that we visit.

  8. #40519

    African girls.

    I'm on my 3rd visit to Bangkok at the moment and 2nd one in which I'm "indulging. " I prefer black girls (with very dark skin) and big asses, so while I don't mind hanging out at Crazy House for a bit to watch (when there are girls who actually do more than stand there), I mostly prefer hunting elsewhere.

    I should contribute a short report before I get to my question. I did have a body-to-body massage with Linda at Honey Bee last week, which was excellent. Pear-shaped body type, big boobs and amazing ass to squeeze. Pretty rare for an Asian girl of any ethnicity, apart from the freakishly-proportioned ones you sometimes see in Japanese pornos! She was quite funny (called me a "ladyboy" for being "so beautiful" did DFK, and "liked" me enough to "forget" that I had ordered a BJ and not FS. She let me pleasure her, and in the end wanted more than I could deliver. WIR? Absolutely!

    Anyway, what is the going rate for the African FLs? I didn't approach any on my previous trip because I came down with a bad cold and it put a damper on my mongering plans. I have spent a few evenings strolling along Soi 4 and along the odd-numbered side of Sukhumvit, so I've seen who's around lately. Last night, I was a little late getting out (around 10 PM) and, unusually, it took me a while to come across any of the lookers on Soi 4. Finally, I found a few who were sitting outside one of the convenience stores for a phone break. I approached them, but they seemed to be more into their phones and not really very friendly. One named Joanne quoted 2000 for 1 hour and 7000 for long time. I thought I had read somewhere that they would throw out ridiculous numbers just to bait you, but in reality you could go long time for 1500. So I tried 1500, after which she completely ignored me and went back to her phone. Maybe it was a lowball offer, but you could at least play the game of haggling, right? I have heard mixed things about their attitudes / personalities, but they can't all be so surly. Right?

    Also, I see a couple people mentioned the cart bar (s) on Soi 23. Does that refer to the one at the end of the soi? I'm staying close by and I often see the same two black girls hanging out there. One is thick, the other is not really my type. Any experiences?

  9. #40518

    Wong's Place

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    Hmmm, I'm going to check that out next time I'm in Bangkok. It sounds like an interesting place if you can avoid abuse from the owner and staff, https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attracti...-Bangkok.html..
    I agree Trip Advisor reviews need to be taken with a grain of salt. But those are the worst reviews of a bar or club I have ever read. None of us have any business going to that place. Glad you haven't had any problems Stykler. But be careful in that crazy place.

  10. #40517
    Quote Originally Posted by BionicMan  [View Original Post]
    Never forget to drop a couple of thousands bahts in the morning. As she is not a pro.
    Bionicman,

    You don't know a girl is not a pro. The minute she is taking money she is a pro. First rule in Thailand is don't believe anything they say. Smartest thing is pay going rate with all girls. But if you like to believe what these women say Ignorance is bliss.

  11. #40516
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    Hmmm, I'm going to check that out next time I'm in Bangkok. It sounds like an interesting place if you can avoid abuse from the owner and staff, https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attracti...-Bangkok.html..
    Never experienced any such problem at Wong's. None.

    By the way, Tripadvisor long ago ceased to be a reliable source of information. It is riddled with self promotion reviews and toxic reviews for commercial reasons. I am a big traveller and I don't even have Tripadvisor bookmarked anymore, it's too conflicted.

  12. #40515
    Quote Originally Posted by Stykler  [View Original Post]
    Try Wong's Place. So different it doesn't have a webpage but it is located at:

    27/34 Soi Si Bamphen, Khwaeng Thung Maha Mek, Khet Sathon, Krung Thep Maha Nakhon 10120, Thailand.

    Worth a look at night.
    Hmmm, I'm going to check that out next time I'm in Bangkok. It sounds like an interesting place if you can avoid abuse from the owner and staff, https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attracti...-Bangkok.html..

  13. #40514
    Quote Originally Posted by RobertLong  [View Original Post]
    You can always walk thru and see the reaction. If your clean and good looking I would imagine that you will get some smiles. I have seen brothers in Thermae and although I don't follow their success, I'm sure they scored. Money talks Bullshit walks is the old saying. Good luck.

    RL.
    Agree. Money talks, bullshit walks. Unfortunately for blacks and Indians, you have to get over their prejudice. In every corner of this world there are always women who are turned on by men of different races. You will know right away if you have one of those. But for the most part, you are going to have to be patient, but some drinks and have the girl get to know you a bit better. Bottom line, you will have to spend a bit more time and money. The girls also tend to quote a higher price for Indians and blacks.

  14. #40513

    Test It Out

    Quote Originally Posted by VeryScary  [View Original Post]
    Will be in Bangkok for the first time in a few weeks. I've watched many videos and hidden camera videos online and I'm interested in checking out thermae. I know they're really into Asian guys at that place but westerners are welcome too. Do any of you guys know if black American men are received well at thermae or should I just scratch that place off the list?
    You can always walk thru and see the reaction. If your clean and good looking I would imagine that you will get some smiles. I have seen brothers in Thermae and although I don't follow their success, I'm sure they scored. Money talks Bullshit walks is the old saying. Good luck.

    RL.

  15. #40512
    Quote Originally Posted by LaoMan  [View Original Post]
    What of value have you added except some nonsense.
    CSP is one of my favorite CONTRIBUTORS. Especially on the Philippines board where he posts real reports.

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