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  1. #39998
    Quote Originally Posted by LewisCarrol  [View Original Post]
    Friends,

    Would be visiting BKK for a week for work. Wanted to try out BJ bars for the first time. Understand reading the BKK forum would be the first thing to do but facing two issues - 1) No time with office etc. In next two days 2) Multiple threads even for BKK. Difficult to find info. Just need to understand the basic tips.

    Would really appreciate if someone can share personal experience (good BJ bars, rates, how it works, are there better options than BJ bars, how not to get conned etc). PM is active too!

    Thanks a lot!

    LC.
    You are less likely (or not at all) to be conned in a BJ bar. The worst can happen is that she will not take her top off or not do COF or whatever other service you agreed beforehand. The prices are usually around 700-1000 for BJ, FS being usually available everywhere.

    The best ones are Dr BJ (actually wood bar) , [CodeWord901], lolipop and som's heaven.

    If you are more on the sleezy side of the mongering, a BJ bar is a nice experience, as you will enjoyed getting blowed while hearing others fucking / sucking in the next room (s). The walls are not going all the way up so you hear everything.

    Anyways, it's something that everyone should do at least once in life.

  2. #39997
    Quote Originally Posted by Joebuster  [View Original Post]
    Had good session at Akane today with two ladies Yumi and Yuki, anyone know if Akane girls will visit hotel?
    The ladies only work in the shop so no outside service is available and FS is not on the menu. I generally go there when I am feeling lazy and take the M Lotion Mat B2B massage (one lady 90 min 1780 baht) or the V-3 (2 ladies 90 min 2580) in the VIP room. I normally take Yuki. Preliminary, slow easy BBBJ on the bed to get warmed up, then a nice body wash on the mat and the B2 be lotion massage followed by 10-15 minutes of rimming and then the finishing BBBJ, DT, CIM and sometimes swallow. With the remaining time I get body scrub and head massage. If two ladies I try for two shots.

  3. #39996
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    If you've not tried her yet, Gee at Mandarin is awesome in bed and has a great body.
    I have not met Gee. Thanks for the pics and recommendation. If she is a "Special Girl" and provides a hassle-free encounter your way, she would definitely be worth the extra 800 baht above the standard barfine, a system I whole-heartedly encourage and support. Yes, it would be better if all the girls provided that for the lesser barfine. But since they don't, a moderate two-tiered barfine system where most of the higher cost girls actually do provide something more and better for the extra charge than the norm these days, that works for me. I'll pay the extra 800 baht.

  4. #39995
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    You're right. When I first encountered Mandarin's two tier 1,500/700 baht barfine system 2-3 years ago the mamasans didn't use the word "Coyotes" but instead used the words "Special Girls". I don't know what they call them now since I still refer to them as "Special Girls" in the bar. But that might have been because in those days it was understood the vast majority of Coyotes did not barfine at all or if they did the barfine was ridiculously higher than the norm so as to discourage anyone from taking one. Many customers would refer to them as Coyotes now because they charge more for the barfine. For me, paying the extra 800 baht just to take them out is justification enough to be comfortable asking them directly what makes them so "special"; will they perform BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, BBFS, stay Long Time, etc. ? Otherwise, why are they considered "special"?

    I don't accept that the determining factor is all about youth, no baby or beauty. IMO, easily one of the hottest, youngest looking, baby-free girls in the bar, named Nung (like the number 1 in Thai) is not a "Special Girl" and has only a 700 baht barfine. Incidentally, her response to me for just about any question I had about going off the standard format was "no", not even BBBJ+CIM-no Swallow mentioned or requested. lol. On the other hand, the two nutcases I mentioned in my previous post said yes to everything I asked and they were only 700 baht barfine girls too. However, the reality is they each turned out to be such hassles in the room nothing for which they said "yes" in the bar was going to happen anyway.
    If you've not tried her yet, Gee at Mandarin is awesome in bed and has a great body.
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  5. #39994
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    You're right. When I first encountered Mandarin's two tier 1,500/700 baht barfine system 2-3 years ago.. -snip-
    I had no idea there was a distinction. I was just always quoted 1,500 at Mandarin so I assumed that was the price for all of them. Was I just always picking the "special girls?" The price didn't deter me because Mandarin has some ridiculously cute gals (half of the time; the quality sure does spike day to day) and you know a lot of more normal and less than optimal choices depending on what you're looking for. Is there some way to distinguish between the "tiers?" Do they dress them differently? Every time I've been there they've all been more or less "in uniform" according to which rotation they were on. The rotation didn't seem to change the price, either. I suppose I could have just been ripped off; in either case, I always had a good time (ignoring one star fish) that was worth the money. I definitely have never had something like what happened to you happen to me. All the girls there always seemed rather submissive to me.

  6. #39993
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    Mandarin is the one and only bar where I would bar fine a coyote. It's also the only bar that I "have" bar fined a coyote. The coyote girls there are not the same as coyote girls at most bars. They are much more naughty and much more willing to go home with customers. Although they call themselves coyote and do charge a higher bar fine, they are always on the cards for sex whereas most coyote girls in other bars are not available to take home. I don't even really consider the coyote girls at Mandarin to be coyote girls. They are just higher priced go-go girls.
    You're right. When I first encountered Mandarin's two tier 1,500/700 baht barfine system 2-3 years ago the mamasans didn't use the word "Coyotes" but instead used the words "Special Girls". I don't know what they call them now since I still refer to them as "Special Girls" in the bar. But that might have been because in those days it was understood the vast majority of Coyotes did not barfine at all or if they did the barfine was ridiculously higher than the norm so as to discourage anyone from taking one. Many customers would refer to them as Coyotes now because they charge more for the barfine. For me, paying the extra 800 baht just to take them out is justification enough to be comfortable asking them directly what makes them so "special"; will they perform BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, BBFS, stay Long Time, etc. ? Otherwise, why are they considered "special"?

    I don't accept that the determining factor is all about youth, no baby or beauty. IMO, easily one of the hottest, youngest looking, baby-free girls in the bar, named Nung (like the number 1 in Thai) is not a "Special Girl" and has only a 700 baht barfine. Incidentally, her response to me for just about any question I had about going off the standard format was "no", not even BBBJ+CIM-no Swallow mentioned or requested. lol. On the other hand, the two nutcases I mentioned in my previous post said yes to everything I asked and they were only 700 baht barfine girls too. However, the reality is they each turned out to be such hassles in the room nothing for which they said "yes" in the bar was going to happen anyway.

  7. #39992

    First time in Bangkok

    Took my first trip to the mongering heaven that is Bangkok last week and have to say I was impressed. I live and play in Taipei and I get so much more pussy for the same price. I used Smooci to order the girls and was surprised as to how easy it was and cheaper than going to the actual websites.

    First night had Soda come over, as advertised she happily gave me a deep rimming and we had a great two shots. Second day was Pam, she was fun and seem genuinely happy that was both came at the same time. Funny girl. Last night saw Plang, she was my dream fuck, super thin with pretty nice breasts. By that time I was having a hard time getting that second shot out. Oh well, getting old.

    Really had fun and may try to come again to try out the bars and get some 3 p action.

  8. #39991
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    In the past I have touted as good experience and value for me the "Special" girls, some would say Coyotes, requiring a 1,500 baht barfine vs a 700 baht barfine in Nana's Mandarin Go-Go bars. I have not taken one of those in a while but instead found myself barfining a couple of their regular 700 baht barfine girls to disastrous results. The story on them is so strange and extreme I have not figured out whether I can relate it properly in a report even if I wanted to. LOL.

    Shortest version would be they were each hot body and hot dancers, all over me from first entry (usually a bad sign I know but I foolishly ignored it), assured to be "good girls" by the mamasan who knows me well as a reliable and generous customer and knows I barfine out the same good girl several times if happy about it. But each turned into overly wiggly nutcases in my room (drugs? Maybe), would not accept that I was calling off the session due to their most bizarre behavior because, each said, they "love me" so much. One even tore up and threw on the floor a 1,000 baht note I handed her for the 10-15 minutes of time (no sex for me) she spent with me in the room, not because it wasn't enough money (she and I had not talked about how much for her earlier) but as a big show that money supposedly didn't mean anything to her because she "loved" me so much after having met me for the first time just an hour before. That would have been just fine if only she had demonstrated her great "love" for me by not wiggling and shifting around so much that I could not actually fuck her and get off. Then she finalized that dramatic gesture by taking a full arm swing slap to my face with one hand and then the other because I had broken her heart tonight by not keeping her longer, which I didn't bother to block since she it was all about drama and I could tell wouldn't hurt me nearly as much as my seriously blocking it might hurt her.

    And she was the SECOND 700 baht barfine Mandarin girl in a row who went nutcase on me after the first one went nutcase in a similar way a week earlier and I had immediately that very night reported the aborted mission to the mamasan. Yes, this second nutcase was supposed to be the one to right the ship for me after a similar blow-up from another girl the week before! LOL.

    Suffice to say the difference in my experience between the 1,500 baht barfine "Special"/Coyote girls and the 700 baht barfine girls in Mandarin Go-Go bars could not be more stark and dramatic. If their goal was to make sure I would always choose the 1,500 baht girl from now on instead of the lesser baht ones, they have certainly achieved that goal. lol.
    Mandarin is the one and only bar where I would bar fine a coyote. It's also the only bar that I "have" bar fined a coyote. The coyote girls there are not the same as coyote girls at most bars. They are much more naughty and much more willing to go home with customers. Although they call themselves coyote and do charge a higher bar fine, they are always on the cards for sex whereas most coyote girls in other bars are not available to take home. I don't even really consider the coyote girls at Mandarin to be coyote girls. They are just higher priced go-go girls.

  9. #39990
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    These days a lot of bars in Nana are having fake Coyotes that are barfinable but at steeper prices and very risky if want a GFE. Some are certainly available for sex.
    In the past I have touted as good experience and value for me the "Special" girls, some would say Coyotes, requiring a 1,500 baht barfine vs a 700 baht barfine in Nana's Mandarin Go-Go bars. I have not taken one of those in a while but instead found myself barfining a couple of their regular 700 baht barfine girls to disastrous results. The story on them is so strange and extreme I have not figured out whether I can relate it properly in a report even if I wanted to. LOL.

    Shortest version would be they were each hot body and hot dancers, all over me from first entry (usually a bad sign I know but I foolishly ignored it), assured to be "good girls" by the mamasan who knows me well as a reliable and generous customer and knows I barfine out the same good girl several times if happy about it. But each turned into overly wiggly nutcases in my room (drugs? Maybe), would not accept that I was calling off the session due to their most bizarre behavior because, each said, they "love me" so much. One even tore up and threw on the floor a 1,000 baht note I handed her for the 10-15 minutes of time (no sex for me) she spent with me in the room, not because it wasn't enough money (she and I had not talked about how much for her earlier) but as a big show that money supposedly didn't mean anything to her because she "loved" me so much after having met me for the first time just an hour before. That would have been just fine if only she had demonstrated her great "love" for me by not wiggling and shifting around so much that I could not actually fuck her and get off. Then she finalized that dramatic gesture by taking a full arm swing slap to my face with one hand and then the other because I had broken her heart tonight by not keeping her longer, which I didn't bother to block since she it was all about drama and I could tell wouldn't hurt me nearly as much as my seriously blocking it might hurt her.

    And she was the SECOND 700 baht barfine Mandarin girl in a row who went nutcase on me after the first one went nutcase in a similar way a week earlier and I had immediately that very night reported the aborted mission to the mamasan. Yes, this second nutcase was supposed to be the one to right the ship for me after a similar blow-up from another girl the week before! LOL.

    Suffice to say the difference in my experience between the 1,500 baht barfine "Special"/Coyote girls and the 700 baht barfine girls in Mandarin Go-Go bars could not be more stark and dramatic. If their goal was to make sure I would always choose the 1,500 baht girl from now on instead of the lesser baht ones, they have certainly achieved that goal. lol.

  10. #39989
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    I hate it when those sites edit the pics in photoshop like they have done here. They should just post the natural photos of the girl.
    If they did that, then nobody would come LOL.

  11. #39988
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    ...

    Although others hate bars, this is a place where I can find girls that don't have bad nose jobs, have a good figure pretty much displayed to check out, and are preferring Farang customers, and handling them well, pornstars not necessary for me, nasty girls not necessary either. I have so much time to watch the girls and consider if their is any sign of a connection. I can chat to them (no overly loud band or disco music). It just seems to be the way that works better for me, although definitely not best value for money. Often I don't fuck bar girls on the first meeting unless they are exceptionally impressive. I seem to get lucky with girl selections more often in bars, although there is my experience contributing to the selection process. A random beauty selection at a Soapy needs a hell of lot more luck than is advisable. One Soapy where I only ever had the one bad selection, was Annies, but maybe was just lucky. Does not mean all the girls selected were super, but only one bad session. Obviously very few passed the looks test.

    ...
    Sounds like we are very similar, Syz. I too prefer hunting in bars, both in BKK and in Patts, for the same reasons. I have had a much higher hit ratio, although in years gone by I have found some keepers in various gogos. But nowadays I rarely hunt in those, cannot speak over the music, and the lighting often makes it difficult to clearly evaluate the goods. My best experiences on the most recent trip were all older hookers late 30's or even early 40's. Excellent GFE, which for me is the most important thing these days.

  12. #39987

    Akane

    Had good session at Akane today with two ladies Yumi and Yuki, anyone know if Akane girls will visit hotel?

  13. #39986
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, quite the opposite for me. I have not noticed much difference in BBFS acceptance rate between Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy. But I am talking about the real go-go dancer bargirls in Soi Cowboy, not the phony, non-barfineable scammer Coyotes lined up in front of the bars mostly. And my acceptance rate in Bangkok is quite high
    These days a lot of bars in Nana are having fake Coyotes that are barfinable but at steeper prices and very risky if want a GFE. Some are certainly available for sex.

    I don't approve generally. They are over dressed. I did have one Anna who was indeed a good fuck and was rumoured to do BB too. I had fucked her before when she was a show performer in Midnight a few years earlier. This one was actually a really good dancer so I would not label her as fake Coyote. I knew her tits were small. She was not a scammer but perhaps a bit selfish. I had another Coyote from Doll House that was OK on the bed.

    So I think Coyotes are incredibly risky but I have done the odd who performed quite OK on the bed.

    I have met o thers so stunning that I would take the risk if they indicate can do sex.

  14. #39985
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    I hate it when those sites edit the pics in photoshop like they have done here. They should just post the natural photos of the girl.
    Yes you are right Smoothy. The real Maya is not that slim. The pic is horizontally shrunk a little. Her tits are actually a lot smaller than portrayed barely a B Cup and droopy. If I saw her in Crazy House, I would not even give her a second glance. Far too average at best. I choose a beautiful ass and beautiful tits girl even if tits are small but not droopy.

    So Parkville seems to be an optimist at times. Even some Annies girls are better for the body like No. 14.

    Has a nose job that looks soso. Ass also soso. All my past regular MP girls had a better body really. e.g. the famous June of Snow White and Bongkot or Cherry of Mango. Not stunning but very sexy looking.

    Pretty face and good body is normally a requirement for me. I can compromise only so much for MP girls. This is why it is so much easier for me in bar with naked or near naked girls.

    Recommended girls from some other guy are generally pretty useless unless you really know the other guys taste and agree with it.

    You also don't know if the MP girls have any real skills as well. Outside of the pornstar shops the skills are almost universally crap. Then I have only potential GFE to fall back on. If no GFE, it is useless for me.

    I have fluked the odd good body massage in an MP but not often. I digress too much.

  15. #39984
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    I have pretty much exactly the same experience as you listed here. I consider Pattaya to be close to worthless. Then again, that's just my personal experience. I've never had good luck in Pattaya, but Bangkok is great. I also consider the coyotes in Bangkok to be worthless. I don't even waste my time with them.
    If you cannot get BBFS from the agogo or Beach Road girls in Pattaya then you might want to try chat apps like Badoo and WeChat. Obviously these apps are a more discrete way to contact girls and you can ask beforehand if they are willing to bareback. My success rate is quite high I must say.

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