Bangkok Reports

[EihTooms]

Not really sure what you mean by the bar / staff being 'freeloaders'. The idea behind these bars is that you don't pay a cover charge. If your intent is to go in and just sit and watch the talent, then I see no reason why you shouldn't have to buy a few drinks. The thing is, even if you just get a water or coke and milk that for a while they won't kick you out for the most part. They may make you feel uncomfortable but force is rarely used to remove someone who is trying to get a free or extremely cheap ogle of the talent. Some of these places can get extremely packed which can turn off actual paying customers (typically the 'freeloaders' are less likely to mind minimal elbow room). If you're waiting around for something better than the right thing to do is to just come back later and see if things change, otherwise you should contribute to the bar and services.

Syzy described a Farang who bought a drink in a bar as a freeloader. Therefore, he has contributed something to the bar; he bought a drink. It isn't really "free" for him. The bar version of a freeloader wouldn't mean no one in the bar is doing anything at all. It is simply that they might not have earned a reason for him to buy another drink. And it is entirely possible that he is waiting to see if there will be a good reason to do so any minute.

Have you ever looked into a bar, seen a couple of likely candidates on stage, gone in and bought a drink only to find out those two lovelies are already tethered to other customers in a back booth? Perhaps they both get barfined and out they go? I have. So you wait to see who else shows up. The theory is that the best girls in most bars are so busy getting barfined you might be under the impression they don't even work there unless you arrive early. But they might return any minute. So you wait.

Now, your idea is that I should buy drink after drink through a series of lesser girls not even close to a proper candidate while I wait to see if a more interesting girl returns or shows up, right? Or maybe I should finish up that first drink, go away for an hour or so and then come back in, buy another drink and wait some more? Uh. No, I won't be doing that. The most I am willing to do when I have committed to sitting at a bar to buy a drink and have not yet seen or felt a likely candidate show up in this dance set or the next one or the next one is to buy as few drinks as possible until or unless something interesting enough to engage has shown up. And that might indeed mean only one drink over a 90 minute period.

Or, the bar management and staff could work a bit harder at providing more than 2-3 lookers and / or performers who might get scooped up and leave very little of interest left on the stage. Then I'll buy more drinks for myself and for the girls.

[Syzygies]

Was at Crazy House last night. Sweetie slim brown sugar Jane #4 is back after a long hiatus to the province. She was dancing and flashed a big smile. As soon as her dance round finished she came down with two other girls, one of whom she introduced as Fon (it was something like Namfon as the full name) and claimed she was her half-sister just 2 days in the bar. I was actually in not much mood for a take-out, but Fon was the slim flat-chested type that I prefer, so decided to buy them a tequila and make acquaintances. Fon was shy and still not ready to dance naked, so I had to feel under her pink bikini for her little slit. I could tell she was fresh into CH as Jane had to teach her how to put the lady drink chit onto her bracelet. I wasn't going to test drive a newbie, but Fon kept flashing me shy smiles. Jane could tell that I was interested and, after quite a bit of chit-chat between the two, I confirmed that Fon was up for a short time. There was a lot of negotiation as Jane wanted me to barfine both of them so that she could tag along, but I couldn't see any value to that. So more chit-chat with Jane telling her where I would take her (Asoke Place short time hotel) and probably that there is nothing to worry, we confirmed the barfine. Another round of tequilas to make Fon less nervous, and we were off.

To make a long story short, after a bit of chit-chat on the bed with Google Translate, got comfy with the 19 yo newbie. I was nervous this was going to be a newbie flop, but after shower onto the bed and newbie Fon warmed up really really quickly. A couple pecks turned into DFK. Her legs opened up like a morning flower and the juices were flowing. Finger clit and she was moaning. Down for DATY and more moaning. Okay BBBJ. Then she put her legs back where her knees tucked in under her shoulders. The fuck was without abandonment. She might have claimed that it was her first CH barfine but there was definitely some mileage on her pussy odometer. The more I pounded, the more she was riled up. Mish. Doggy. Cowgirl. For the guys that worry about dick-scared Japanese-lovers, Fon definitely lives up to her half-sister's family pride. For Jane #4 lovers, you will will know what I mean.

Didn't see that Fon had a number, but suspect that she will be hanging close to sis and working as a duo. Worth a spin if that is your type. Enjoy BKK, AsianRain.

Jane was my last girl at CH. She has been back since school started up. Thanks for the recommendatoon. I might consider trying Fon.

What does getting "riled up" mean? I thought it meant angry ir annoyed at least.

[Po Pimp]

Hi.

Any body knows if Kamagra Gells are available in pharmacies around nana again. When I left Bangkok 3 months ago couldn't find one, And all pharmacies told me that it was a temporary ban on imports from India.

The pharmacy directly across the street from Nana had them yesterday.

[Grandaddy Perp]

What if, like you, that Farang didn't want to waste his money on more drinks unless or until he saw and perceived better and more promising talent show up? The responsibility for making this transaction a rewarding one for both sides falls both ways. It doesn't just fall onto the customer.

I have spent (wasted) plenty of money on drinks in bars where it eventually turned out the bar and staff were the freeloaders, not me, wasting space, my time and my money. In fact, on balance, I would say the freeloaders are far more likely to be on the bars' side, not on the customers' side. And it is certainly not on my side even though I assure you there are times when I am inclined to sit on one drink for a long time and wait.

Not really sure what you mean by the bar / staff being 'freeloaders'. The idea behind these bars is that you don't pay a cover charge. If your intent is to go in and just sit and watch the talent, then I see no reason why you shouldn't have to buy a few drinks. The thing is, even if you just get a water or coke and milk that for a while they won't kick you out for the most part. They may make you feel uncomfortable but force is rarely used to remove someone who is trying to get a free or extremely cheap ogle of the talent. Some of these places can get extremely packed which can turn off actual paying customers (typically the 'freeloaders' are less likely to mind minimal elbow room). If you're waiting around for something better than the right thing to do is to just come back later and see if things change, otherwise you should contribute to the bar and services.

[EihTooms]

I saw a Farang sit on a bottle of water for a long time. He hardly drank any of it so never needed another drink. Definitely a waste of space. If customers are a waste of space and try to attend regularly, they may well be denied entry (known non spenders).

There are a lot of staff to be paid their salary somehow, and they want to make a profit. Freeloaders are not welcome.

What if, like you, that Farang didn't want to waste his money on more drinks unless or until he saw and perceived better and more promising talent show up? The responsibility for making this transaction a rewarding one for both sides falls both ways. It doesn't just fall onto the customer.

I have spent (wasted) plenty of money on drinks in bars where it eventually turned out the bar and staff were the freeloaders, not me, wasting space, my time and my money. In fact, on balance, I would say the freeloaders are far more likely to be on the bars' side, not on the customers' side. And it is certainly not on my side even though I assure you there are times when I am inclined to sit on one drink for a long time and wait.

[Danibbler]

Late Sunday night I couldn't sleep so decided to head out just after midnight. You know when you get that itch and you have to get it scratched? That's how it goes for me sometimes concerning sex.

Wow! I need to look at your reports the next time I fly in to BKK!

[Asian Rain]

Was at Crazy House last night. Sweetie slim brown sugar Jane #4 is back after a long hiatus to the province. She was dancing and flashed a big smile. As soon as her dance round finished she came down with two other girls, one of whom she introduced as Fon (it was something like Namfon as the full name) and claimed she was her half-sister just 2 days in the bar. I was actually in not much mood for a take-out, but Fon was the slim flat-chested type that I prefer, so decided to buy them a tequila and make acquaintances. Fon was shy and still not ready to dance naked, so I had to feel under her pink bikini for her little slit. I could tell she was fresh into CH as Jane had to teach her how to put the lady drink chit onto her bracelet. I wasn't going to test drive a newbie, but Fon kept flashing me shy smiles. Jane could tell that I was interested and, after quite a bit of chit-chat between the two, I confirmed that Fon was up for a short time. There was a lot of negotiation as Jane wanted me to barfine both of them so that she could tag along, but I couldn't see any value to that. So more chit-chat with Jane telling her where I would take her (Asoke Place short time hotel) and probably that there is nothing to worry, we confirmed the barfine. Another round of tequilas to make Fon less nervous, and we were off.

To make a long story short, after a bit of chit-chat on the bed with Google Translate, got comfy with the 19 yo newbie. I was nervous this was going to be a newbie flop, but after shower onto the bed and newbie Fon warmed up really really quickly. A couple pecks turned into DFK. Her legs opened up like a morning flower and the juices were flowing. Finger clit and she was moaning. Down for DATY and more moaning. Okay BBBJ. Then she put her legs back where her knees tucked in under her shoulders. The fuck was without abandonment. She might have claimed that it was her first CH barfine but there was definitely some mileage on her pussy odometer. The more I pounded, the more she was riled up. Mish. Doggy. Cowgirl. For the guys that worry about dick-scared Japanese-lovers, Fon definitely lives up to her half-sister's family pride. For Jane #4 lovers, you will will know what I mean.

Didn't see that Fon had a number, but suspect that she will be hanging close to sis and working as a duo. Worth a spin if that is your type. Enjoy BKK, AsianRain.

[Smoothy]

I have barfined a girl perhaps only 4 times this year.

And it was Amazon looking chick "Ice" from Crazy House you bar fined all 4 of those times? If so, Good choice. Every guy should bar fine her at least 4 times.

[Syzygies]

It's not that hard for a bar to kick out people who don't buy a drink, or who are disruptive, they already do that on a daily basis.

Nah, it's too much trouble to eject people once they are in. It's far easier to stop them entering (doesn't mean it is right). I was stopped from entering Bacarra unless I bought drinks first. No way. I could have decided to leave very quickly if I did not like it. I would not be a waste of space for a long duration. However I did not want to buy drinks before seeing if there was any talent at all, and making sure there was somewhere reasonable to sit.

Plenty of mongers of other races watch their money, and don't exactly buy drinks or pay for services at the crazy rate the bar owners would like to see, yet they are not denied entry.

That is correct although drink prices are not that bad given that it is really an entertainment charge. 170 Baht. Some bars are charging 200 for lady drinks. I saw a Farang sit on a bottle of water for a long time. He hardly drank any of it so never needed another drink. Definitely a waste of space. If customers are a waste of space and try to attend regularly, they may well be denied entry (known non spenders).

There are a lot of staff to be paid their salary somehow, and they want to make a profit. Freeloaders are not welcome.

Drink sales is the main source of money. Barfines are somewhat more minor I would guess. Only a percentage of the girls get barfined each night. Plenty of the customers are not barfining a girl, and that often includes myself. I have barfined a girl perhaps only 4 times this year. Only my regular girls and not every visit. My regulars are often missing. They don't work consistently. All had been away on holidays.

[DubyaMan88]

After many years of going out or in-call with Thai girls, I decided to try something different. Decided to call a Russian girl, 30 years old from an SP who had been referred to me. Though I have had many Russian girls in Moscow and St Petersburg, this was a first for me outside Russia.

The lady arrived on time and was very clean, like most Thai girls. Excellent attitude and decent English. She spent 3 hours with me. Showered together, BBBJ and FS (2 shots) cost was US $ 150.

Very new experience and will definitely go back to her next time.

[Franciscass]

I read of your interesting time spent with this Thai MILF and would like to share a similar experience with her during my next visit to BKK. Can you let me know her number and name she used at Chao Phraya 2 soupie? Thanks!

I know it's extremely irritating to read a post without being able to know who the lady in question is but I didn't keep a note of her number. However the fishbowl at the soapie in question is divided into 3 or 4 sections and is on the right as you enter. The older ladies sit at the end and the lady is question sat at the back on the top tier. She wore a black two piece over a white blouse and has short hair which in itself distinguishes her somewhat. Now she doesn't work there a lot but I suggest you pop into the place anyway and who knows you just might get lucky with somebody else if you don't recognize I her. Sorry I can't be more helpful.

[Bungee Man]

I am a sucker for middle aged French actresses like Juliette Binoche, Isabelle Huppert, Marion Cotillard, Isabelle Adjani to name just a few. I feel they combine a classic sense of style with an exquisite sensuality that comes from having lived an exciting life. I mention this in the context of a recent encounter.

I know and you all know what my specs and tastes are, slim and youngish with all original features in place especially the nose 555 LOL. I am nevertheless always on the lookout for something unusual and so wandered into the Chayo Phraya 2 soapie on Sri Ayudhya Rd a couple of days back, good move as I met up with an amazing lady in her mid 40's.

She was sitting in the 1800 Baht massage section, had on a black tailored two piece jacket and skirt, a short stylish hairstyle, legs crossed model like and was sitting alone towards the rear reading a book. I thought what the fuck is she doing here and quickly grabbed an attendant to call out her number. I paid the fee, waited for her to emerge and was a little surprised when she did, she was so petite, smaller than she looked in the fishbowl. I was so totally aroused as we walked hand in hand to the room..

I read of your interesting time spent with this Thai MILF and would like to share a similar experience with her during my next visit to BKK. Can you let me know her number and name she used at Chao Phraya 2 soupie? Thanks!

[Sunlover2]

Interesting comment about street vendors selling fakes. In January I bought a single pack of gel (I think it was Kamagra, some fruit flavor) and it worked quickly and effectively. In February I went to the same place and bought a 7-pack of the same stuff. It was totally ineffective, a waste of money. I'm done buying that sort of thing from street vendors.

Straight fakes aside; pharmaceuticals should be stored at moderate room temperatures. Baking for what could be months on the tables and in the storage bins of street vendors is far from that.

SL.

[HorseTrader]

Hi.

Any body knows if Kamagra Gells are available in pharmacies around nana again. When I left Bangkok 3 months ago couldn't find one, And all pharmacies told me that it was a temporary ban on imports from India.

Of course you could find them at that time in the street vendors, but those are all fakes. Thanks for any tips.

Interesting comment about street vendors selling fakes. In January I bought a single pack of gel (I think it was Kamagra, some fruit flavor) and it worked quickly and effectively. In February I went to the same place and bought a 7-pack of the same stuff. It was totally ineffective, a waste of money. I'm done buying that sort of thing from street vendors.

An old friend of mine sold laboratory equipment to test the actual contents of pharmaceuticals. He once made a comment that North American and European generics are consistently the same as name brands. But, Asian generics are less reliable, and the worst are from India. That was about 15 years ago, perhaps the problem continues.

[Crocodilexp]

By definition, a "generalization" is not "totally" true. It's exactly as described. A generalization.

Is this particular generalization accurate? Hell, yes.

I disagree about generalizations about Indians being accurate. A few Indians I do know are no more stingy or prone to causing trouble than I am.

There's a huge difference between a useful generalization (say, Indians like to haggle) vs a outright racism racism (say, Indians are a waste of space). Plenty of Thai dislike for Indians is plain racism, nothing to do with avoiding trouble or making the business run smoother or be more profitable. It's not that hard for a bar to kick out people who don't buy a drink, or who are disruptive, they already do that on a daily basis.

Plenty of mongers of other races watch their money, and don't exactly buy drinks or pay for services at the crazy rate the bar owners would like to see, yet they are not denied entry.

Unfortunately, nothing can do about it, Indian mongers simply have to accept that Thais, especially in the nightlife industry, are racist about them. If I were them, I'd actually try to boycott and publicly shame business that do it (rather than trying to squeeze or beg my way in), and highlight ones that are more accepting.