Bangkok Reports

[Breadman]

1) not sure how to split between Bangkok and Pattaya for 9 days.

Citadines Sukhumvit 8 Bangkok.

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Citadines is way off the beaten path, I wouldn't stay there, too far to walk. I'd recommend Nana hotel or Majestic suites, you can walk to nana in under a minute with either of those two places. If you go to Pattaya I'd recommend Baywalk Residence for its location. If I only had 9 days I'd pick one area and stick with it, too much to see and do in both cities.

[Syzygies]

Will go to Thai for about 9 days.

No one can say what is best for you. Be flexible and try everything.

Many of your questions have been answered before. E. g. Short Time Hotels. If you don't know the price use a taxi on the meter. Do not talk to taxi drivers that approach you on foot (I ignore them completely), just wave to a taxi that is driving past on the move, and tell him your hotel. If he says yes, then can get in. If he says 200 baht, then just wave him on. Once a taxi driver gets out of his car, he is automatically marked as "to be avoided" unless it is to stow your luggage. Do not tell them where you are going. It's only your business. Do not argue with them. Be silent, be resolute. Assume they are madmen not worth giving the time of day to.

Disobey this rule and you will get ripped off, for certain. Maybe it's better to learn from mistakes. Even Thai people getting off a bus at the bus terminal get ripped off by taxi drivers approaching them on foot. You are in a position of weakness to bargain with anyone unless you are certain of the correct price. I go by meter unless I know the price. I also watch Google Maps to ensure that driver is selecting a reasonable route without circumnavigating the entire Bangkok. Google Maps knows alternative routes.

If really desperate, call a taxi company or use one of the Taxi Apps on smartphone. I don't bother myself, certainly not for short distances. Catching a taxi outside the Nana Plaza is not a good place. They cannot turn right into Sukhumvit road. Better to cross Sukhumvit road by foot first, if heading East.

[Syzygies]

Admin has deleted the thread in the user blog section that this post was linked to for reasons I can't comprehend. I'm not charging any fee myself, it will just be a group of guys going out to Merci. I have checked the posting guidelines and no rule was broken however, I must respect Jackson's wishes as it is his website. Please feel free to PM me for details but there will be no thread to post suggestions for the event in. Just a quick disclaimer. PMs can only be sent by Senior members or regular members with a paid subscription. However this event is open to Senior members only. Happy mongering to all.

Oh, if this post gets deleted, then I will not be posting again about the event but instead will send out a few invites to fill any remaining spots by PM to Senior members.

Perhaps it was seen as trying to set up a little exclusive forum within a forum. The problem was asking guys not to post there, except when meeting special criteria, IMHO.

I have been in trouble for supposedly discouraging other posters from making a post, where I merely observed that the English was so bad, it came incomprehensible, and objective of the post could not be discerned as being relevant to the thread in any way whatsoever. Of course I knew full well the persons concerned would not be discouraged from posting at all. I just wanted them to use understandable simple sentences.

However I learned that supposedly trying to prevent someone from posting was a major sin, no matter how incomprehensible their post may be.

[Member #4591]

He admits "having not picked up much". LOL.

It's strange that pricing is one of his questions and we were just discussing ST and LT pricing. He didn't even need to look past the 1st page LOL.

[BionicMan]

You obviously have not read.

He admits "having not picked up much". LOL.

[Member #4591]

Admin has deleted the thread in the user blog section that this post was linked to for reasons I can't comprehend. I'm not charging any fee myself, it will just be a group of guys going out to Merci. I have checked the posting guidelines and no rule was broken however, I must respect Jackson's wishes as it is his website. Please feel free to PM me for details but there will be no thread to post suggestions for the event in. Just a quick disclaimer. PMs can only be sent by Senior members or regular members with a paid subscription. However this event is open to Senior members only. Happy mongering to all.

Oh, if this post gets deleted, then I will not be posting again about the event but instead will send out a few invites to fill any remaining spots by PM to Senior members.

[Tinny2000]

Will go to Thai for about 9 days.

1) not sure how to split between Bangkok and Pattaya for 9 days.

Want to tour around in the day and enjoy nightlife at night.

Which one has more selections (of girls) and more fun?

2) soapy massage parlor. Which one would you recommend?

When is the best time to go (early evening? Late afternoon? Sunday, or Thur. Etc.)?

3) Nana plaza vs. Soi Cowboy, which one better? Any bars do you recommend?

Generally, what is the price (bar fine, LT, ST)?

4) Is there an option like love motel / hotel by hour?

The following one seems to be guest friendly. I am interested in it since it is away from the busy Suk st and I hope I can have a good sleep at night.

The joiner policy: is it 1 guest / night or 1 guest / stay (maybe the former)?

Citadines Sukhumvit 8 Bangkok.

5) I read a lot of scams about the Thai Taxi drivers. Generally how much do you pay from Nana / Cowboy to hotel (less than 1 mi)?

For me, first time to Thai, but more experience with Tijuana, MX. Are they similar?

Thanks a lot!

[Syzygies]

You know, the ones we used to say we were tied to emotionally and what a relief it was to partake of P4 P because "We pay the girls to leave. " Ah, the good ol' days.

I suspect a lot of the new "ST only" girls are in the same boat as I am (we are). They have so many Line contacts to go visit in order to keep all the dishes spinning, they must double and triple book.

In the good old days, I had paid this girl Bua to leave. I had made the mistake of treating her too good, for a very low class girl, for more than one day. I was bored with her, so the next night I got a girl from somewhere else and new girl was staying with me till morning. In the morning, there is a knock on my door. Bua has showed up (with tears). I am not going to answer the door and let Bua come in since there is another girl in my bed. Whoops, time to change Hotels, and no more visits for Bua. Bua had a good body, good tits, average face, and did BB too easily.

So there are benefits to girls messaging first. LOL I probably have far too few girls pestering me for sex. I can ignore the messages if necessary. Some girls suggest a meeting, and then don't go through with it, so yes you have to suspect they have lots of alternative things to choose from at the moment. One girl said that I did not answer her message immediately (I answered 12 minutes later) so she invited her mother over instead for Songkran (yeh right). Some girls keep on saying tomorrow. I can play the tomorrow game too. You get a feel quickly for which girls are reliable.

[AskeAske]

It was very different 25 years ago, when bargirls always went with you for the whole night, and sometimes were still there at midday. Hence we used to have the expression "We pay the girls to leave".

It is still like that many times in Cambodia. Especially in Sihanoukville. 10 dollar BF and 30 dollar to the girl. Like in Thailand before.

[EihTooms]

It was very different 25 years ago, when bargirls always went with you for the whole night, and sometimes were still there at midday. Hence we used to have the expression "We pay the girls to leave". Sometimes we were eager to get rid of them so we could go do something else.

I think we need to reassess that expression now that the scene is so altered by the advent of smartphones, Line and so on. Once I have exchanged Line IDs with a P4 P girl there doesn't seem to be such a thing as "leave" exactly. LOL. "Leave" emotionally, that is. Maybe this is more particular to those of us who live here.

Even if our first outing is a simple ST she is within the hour wishing me a "good night, sweet dreams, miss you!" with a half-dozen stickers on Line. More often than not by midday the next day she is already pestering me for another meeting (which I might very well agree to), continues the pestering on a daily and nightly basis and so it goes for weeks or months. Before smartphones and Line, I never had this much post-sex attention and pestering from a REAL girlfriend. You know, the ones we used to say we were tied to emotionally and what a relief it was to partake of P4 P because "We pay the girls to leave. " Ah, the good ol' days.

I suspect a lot of the new "ST only" girls are in the same boat as I am (we are). They have so many Line contacts to go visit in order to keep all the dishes spinning, they must double and triple book. By the time you have emerged from the post-coitus / post-ST shower, she has fielded 10 invites from interested punters looking to see her in the next hour. Which is fine with me since I (we) have likely been fielding as many pleas from P4 P girls, dating site girls, shop girls and waitresses to come over for the night and now I am free to say, "Sure, come on over. ".

I know this doesn't address the cost factor. But in a way it does when you live here since, again thanks to smartphones and Line, there are always several girls who cycle through who aren't P4 P directly and actually cost very little.

[Member #4591]

General info required.

It's been about 3 years since I last visited BKK, any info regarding CIS, good clubs, and if the BKK scene has changed in any way, also any TIPS on mongering would be appreciated. I have been searching on the site, but not picking up much. Has BKK died down a bit.

I do like the CIS more, but not the crowd from Grace area, used to visit CM2, before, heard its closed down.

IS MIXX, BKK still the same, has anything changed, any info and help would be appreciated. Current prices, LT, ST has the quality of the woman dropped.

Thanks.

You obviously have not read.

[Syzygies]

Last time I checked Nana and Cowboy out, which was in September 2016, almost every girl I interviewed said ST is for 1 hour 1 pop, and LT is for 4 hours 2 pops.

It's lucky I haven't been asking for LT because it always meant till morning for me with a sex round on waking up. The reason girls are trying to trim this to 4 hours, although I have zero experience of this phenomenon, seems to me to be related to the very low price that some guys are trying to pay for it. Suppose a ST was rated at 2 K, how many extra hours do punters reckon they should get if they pay 3 K? Not so long, otherwise girls that can get multiple STs into a night will be losing money. The girl may well be able to find a different customer willing to pay 3 K for a ST.

I always expect all night for a LT, but am willing to pay the girl a more reasonable amount for it (provided I get my morning sex as well). If the girl absolutely has to leave at 6. 00 AM, then fine I can set the alarm for 5 am to get my final round of sex. I usually started my longtimes not much beyond 11 PM, and possibly earlier.

I can see that a late night disco pickup, all night remaining maybe only 4 hours. LOL I don't do that sort of thing.

In my experience, a lot of girls simply said they don't do long time. Obviously might be possible to change their mind for a really high fee, but initially they showed no interest in it at all.

It was very different 25 years ago, when bargirls always went with you for the whole night, and sometimes were still there at midday. Hence we used to have the expression "We pay the girls to leave". Sometimes we were eager to get rid of them so we could go do something else. My first cowboy girls cost me 500 Baht for the night plus some small BF. At the time that was about $25 for the night, I think. You just took a girl for the night every night. It was a no brainer. She was as cheap as the room or cheaper if room was expensive. I don't recall any of those girls being so poor a fuck as to kick them out. They all were fine. Never seemed to meet precious dick scared girls in those days. I guess that was because all the customers were Farangs and they were used to it.

[Crocodilexp]

Generally speaking it should be that ST is one hour / one pop (whichever comes first), and LT is all night with one pop at night and one in the morning.

That's the absolute bare minimum.

Personally, I didn't mind a 1 shot ST when it cost 1000-1500 baht ($25-$40) all in, but if I'm paying in the vicinity of $100 for the privilege, I damn sure will have higher expectations and demand 2 pops within 90 minutes or so. Sure, service in Thailand has deteriorated, and prices have gone up, but the golden rule ("one who has the gold makes the rules") still applies, for those of us who have balls and aren't shy to state expectations in advance.

As for LT, it really should (and used to) mean all-night with as many cums as you can manage, though it's reasonable not to expect more than 3 pops.

The specified time with 1-shot sessions is a semi-scam, an average male cums in about 3-7 minutes, so one shot is actually 10 minutes of work, with the rest being ceremony. In low-end brothels for Thai guys, they normally give you just 30 min excluding the post-shower (slightly flexible, as it is Thailand after all), and punters rarely bump against the time limit. That's a bit more honest than advertising "1 hour" for what rarely takes that long.

Speaking of Eastern Europe, in some places it used to be that 1 hour actually meant 60 minutes (not just 1 pop), but I haven't mongered there in a long time.

[Sammyt]

Last time I checked Nana and Cowboy out, which was in September 2016, almost every girl I interviewed said ST is for 1 hour 1 pop, and LT is for 4 hours 2 pops.

Sounds ridiculous, because in my concept, LT means whole night, which should be at least 8 hours, perhaps?

Too ridiculous, so I did not take any girl from Gogobars. Instead, I stick with soapy bath massage parlors my whole last trip.

So, may I ask guys who constantly reported back that they took girls LT for whole night long, where and how you do that?

The LT=4 hours bullshit really made me upset and it was also one reason why I don't visit there again recent.

OK this sucks massively. One of the reasons I've not been back to LOS in over 2 years is I noticed dropping standards and rising prices. I can now get better value sex in Eastern Europe which is also closer to home.

Generally speaking it should be that ST is one hour / one pop (whichever comes first), and LT is all night with one pop at night and one in the morning.

As ever, YMMV. I once had a girl I took LT from AngelWitch leave after 4 hours and 2 lengthy shags where I didn't come at all. Despite this being bad service I didn't object as I just wanted her to leave me alone to sleep by this point.

At the other end of the scale a few months earlier, I took a bar girl LT in Ko Samui and we had 2 extended fucking sessions at night. The next day she stayed in my room with me until 4 pm during which time we had another 3 sessions. There was chemistry between us that time.

[Hugolov]

General info required.

It's been about 3 years since I last visited BKK, any info regarding CIS, good clubs, and if the BKK scene has changed in any way, also any TIPS on mongering would be appreciated. I have been searching on the site, but not picking up much. Has BKK died down a bit.

I do like the CIS more, but not the crowd from Grace area, used to visit CM2, before, heard its closed down.

IS MIXX, BKK still the same, has anything changed, any info and help would be appreciated. Current prices, LT, ST has the quality of the woman dropped.

Thanks.