Bangkok Reports

[Allover]

Guys,

I'm going next month, did some RTFF last month and starting to do more this weekend. Found most of the stuff I've been looking for but a few more things I need to ask.

First, I haven't been to a girlie bar in over two years, first time I'm going sober. I'm not in AA or anything but I'd like to maintain my 18 months without a drink so what are my options at these bars? Will going for a non alcoholic drink scare off the girls, maybe make me seem cheap or less likely to fall for their charms and attempts to secure customer?

I don't drink alcohol either for the most part. I usually order orange juice or club soda. It is never a problem with the girls and I believe many girls prefer to go with a non-drinker. I occasionally order a cheap beer during happy hour. At that time beer is cheaper than water. I'll take a few sips but 95% of my beer goes unfinished.

[Aviator12]

Guys,

I'm going next month, did some RTFF last month and starting to do more this weekend. Found most of the stuff I've been looking for but a few more things I need to ask.

First, I haven't been to a girlie bar in over two years, first time I'm going sober. I'm not in AA or anything but I'd like to maintain my 18 months without a drink so what are my options at these bars? Will going for a non alcoholic drink scare off the girls, maybe make me seem cheap or less likely to fall for their charms and attempts to secure customer?

I'm an early bird, my usual M. O. Was hit the bars early, between 7 pm to 10 pm to avoid crowds. I know girls are usually less likely to bargain and if they do barfine early, they are in more of a rush to get back and make more money than if they were BF'd later in the night. I guess there is no reason to expect any different in bkk?

In the past I've had success just hanging out in the bars and drinking with girls, getting contacts and making arrangements for the next day. This is partially to avoid the barfine and also because I prefer mid morning and afternoon sessions compared to drunkenly walking into my hotel with a girl late at night. From what I've read, doesn't seem like this is done a lot on BKK but I'm hoping I'm wrong about this.

In my experience it does not matter if you drink alcohol or not. The girls will certainly be interested in going with a sober guy. No need to fear the girl will offer a rushed service. This is more related to the attitude of the girl than the time of evening. Good luck!

[Syzygies]

Crazy House (this and all following Gogo's are in Soi Cowboy): This is one of the most popular Gogo's and is always quite crowded. While I admit that they do have some attractive dancers and a good number of them are in their birthday suits, I have never really enjoyed the atmosphere, I find it is more pushy than other places. Maybe one has to be a regular to be treated well. Also the prices quoted for s / t fun was clearly at a large premium (THB 4k! Maybe she was smoking sth very unhealthy?

True price is usually 2500 or 3000 plus barfine, depending on your negotiating skills or on the girl. Some of the more ugly or less popular girls may go for 2000. However unlikely for a very hot girl. Never heard of having to pay 4K ST for even the very best girls ever in there. LT could be available for 4K to 5K, depending on the girl. I can't be sure since it is a long time since I took a LT. Girls are not hassling me that much, even though there are a lot of new girls that don't know me. I am pretty good at ignoring unwanted girls. I don't like to look them in the eye as though to acknowledge them. A girl comes up and puts out her hand to shake mine. I pay no attention. If she tries to sit on my lap, I just don't allow it. No need to be too friendly. I am Farang, so I don't know if girls act more forcefully with timid looking Asian guys. My advice is just don't allow girls to dominate you in any way, and ignore them as best you can. If girl is with you already and keeps pestering for drinks too much, just say no thanks, or tell her to go away in extreme cases. Or just stop talking to her and stop looking at her at all. If refuse to listen or answer, she will get the message. These are extreme cases. I don't have so much problem. Was much worse for me in Long Gun. I knew too many people and did not want to have to rudely tell them all to [CodeWord140] off. However you can't afford to be real friendly with too many people in a bar. If you are nice to anyone, will be hard to get rid of them.

Lighthouse: My favorite place as the last stop for the evening, I. E to have some fun with the girls and then barfine one. The dancing is not really anything to write home about (unless there is a dancer who really wants to leave an impression on you.). They have Coyote's and normal dancers (THB 1,200 and THB 700 BF respectively), I found quite a few of the latter category cuter and more fun. And that impression lasted beyond the bar.

I recently noticed some cute girls outside Lighthouse. Time for a revisit.

Long Gun: Fun Bar, themed shows (E. G. Hawaiian dance) that can be fun and entertaining. Girls are quite pretty and not pushy. Ladydrinks go a longer way (timewise, not necessarily also in terms of action) here and all seem to be in a good mood. Good place to spend some time. Haven't tried BF, but would imagine a good result as well.

I can't go in there any more. Get hassled too much for drinks. Too many staff know me from former times.

If you are back in Nana I recommend try out Twisters, for superior quality girl looks, however not like Baccara girls. Baccara and Sharks are not my style.

Coyotes in Cowboy are largely a waste of time and money and not that special. Coyotes in Nana are very prevalent these days, may well be cheaper, more available for sex, and better compared to Cowboy.

[Farape]

Was fortunate enough to be able to spend a couple of days in Bangkok. In the evenings I visited a good number of Gogo Bars and wanted to share my experiences. During the day I also visited some (more limited) Massage places. Will share those experiences in the massage section of the forum at a later stage.

Billboard (only Gogo I visited at Nana): Good size Gogo with a unique bath / jacuzzi styled "dance-area" on the right when you enter. On the left a Carousel styled dance pod. Quite a large number of attractive dancers, some really get into it (in the bath area, which actually has foam in it; the "carousel-area" is more quiet). For a lady-drink the girls get more engaged (EG lap-grinding) than in some other Gogo's. Good music, pleasant atmosphere.

Crazy House (this and all following Gogo's are in Soi Cowboy): This is one of the most popular Gogo's and is always quite crowded. While I admit that they do have some attractive dancers and a good number of them are in their birthday suits, I have never really enjoyed the atmosphere, I find it is more pushy than other places. Maybe one has to be a regular to be treated well. Also the prices quoted for s / t fun was clearly at a large premium (THB 4k! Maybe she was smoking sth very unhealthy?

Lighthouse: My favorite place as the last stop for the evening, I. E to have some fun with the girls and then barfine one. The dancing is not really anything to write home about (unless there is a dancer who really wants to leave an impression on you.). They have Coyote's and normal dancers (THB 1,200 and THB 700 BF respectively), I found quite a few of the latter category cuter and more fun. And that impression lasted beyond the bar.

Shark: same owner as Lighthouse. Seems to follow the same model, but trying to be slightly more upscale. Downside for me is that the normal dancers are not that hot here and the coyote's (BF seems to be THB 1,500?) , who usually dance upstairs, but come down when less crowded tend to get pricy (also from a Ladydrink point of view). Granted that they really have some stunners.

Baccara: Again one of the more popular Gogo's which has pro's but also some con's for me. Good number of dancers of which quite a few are very attractive, the concept with the see through floor at the second level is great and brilliant views are to be had for those seated in the right area of the first floor. Action at the second floor is fun, but the heavy smoking is really a strong negative as is the pushy nature of some of the dancers. Girls are generally (some exceptions though) very much attracted to the buying power (or shall I say overspending) by Japanese clients and thus at times challenging for older (45+) Westerners.

Long Gun: Fun Bar, themed shows (E. G. Hawaiian dance) that can be fun and entertaining. Girls are quite pretty and not pushy. Ladydrinks go a longer way (timewise, not necessarily also in terms of action) here and all seem to be in a good mood. Good place to spend some time. Haven't tried BF, but would imagine a good result as well.

Raw Hide: Again a fun place with some action happening (all the way to birthday suits). Downside is that they now seem to have a large number of Coyote's (and quite a limited number of normal dancers) who, despite on average looking very good, are less active in providing a good service and instead are looking to maximising their intake. BF for these Coyotes is also steep, though I do not remember the exact amount.

Just a few impressions that might be helpful for some newbies thinking of where to go in the BKK Gogo scene.

[Syzygies]

Then, just as suddenly, it is really easy to have the next 3, 4, 5 or more days in a row provide some of the most satisfying and happy experiences in Thailand one could ever want and all is forgotten about the bad run. Or almost forgotten. I often wonder if I ever would have wanted to return to Thailand at all if the FIRST 3 days or so I spent here way back when happened to be one of those truly awful bad runs.

Yes, I have not had such a bad day for a while. In the end was not totally bad. Did a regular girl for a nice 90 minute fuck in between the two bad experiences. The real problem was the extra expense of the bad parts of the day. Wasted money. The wasted time did not matter that much. It is a disincentive to try new things.

It's always great to have known good girls to fall back on, so the day was not a complete write off. Today I can do nothing at all. Maybe watch sport at the pub.

[Syzygies]

Over a few beers I watched as several men approached the hottest one (in my opinion), but then walked away. I assumed the price was too high. There was one girl with verbal skills who seem to be doing the negotiating for the mutes. The pretty one; to a few of the men she showed her phone screen to them and they immediately walked away. I wondered if there was something more than price going on. One guy lounging on a motorbike back behind the entrance sign may be running this crew, they all turn to him and communicate via sign every now and then. Finally I went over to bargain with the prettiest one, her verbal negotiator friend said, "one thousand five hundred short time". I countered with one thousand, the negotiator said, "many men want her, one thousand five hundred".

You may well have seen me approach those girls too if was around 11 pm. Two deaf girls. The really quite pretty one was in blue colour outfit. I did fancy her. She was similar looking to my Jane at Crazy House but a little less skinny (could easily have been a sister for looks LOL). She kept trying to put me on to her ugly companion. The girl in blue did possibly appear to have a waistline maybe not quite as slim as I like. Sure, she showed me the screen with large 1500. Also tried to sell me on taking both girls. Might try the girl in blue another day, but not the ugly one. I was also fancying another freelancer sitting down dressed in a dark brick red dress, who seemed to be not trying to interest guys, but rather just wait for a guy to come to her, due to the pretty face. One or two other blondish haired girls looked good. The overall standard was quite high, compared to what is normally expected, however getting a great GFE on a first time girl is not easy, in my experience. Yes can get a girl for 1000 or 1200 sometimes, but it probably will be 30 minute non GFE. I would rather pay 1500 if can get the GFE.

I usually take my regular freelancer for 90 minutes, so 1000 Baht isn't going to be the deal. We sometimes eat together afterwards. Eating before sex is not a great idea for me. Tends to cut my energy levels for a long sex about. She told me one Japanese customer wanted to take her to RCA, so she charged him 1500 per hour, and he was willing to pay that. LOL even it wasn't sex, and she wasn't stunning. Ha Ha. Crazy. She also told me about 70% of guys approaching want BBFS and often offer significantly higher money for that which she is refusing. However I expect that many freelancers could not resist significantly more money for no condom. Haven't done the survey. Maybe Eih Tooms will know what percentage of freelancers do BBFS on a first time booking.

Massage with HJ is zero interest for me. I would rather have naked pretty girl sit on my lap at Crazy House. Different priorities.

No ability to talk is no barrier for me. I have done the odd fabulous latin girl in the past who had zero English and I had zero Spanish. One girl Momo from Cuba was fantastic. Memories of 2005. LOL Lack of talk can be replaced by kissing and other things, if you know the girl is willing. So the cute deaf girl is on my "to do" list. Probably just need to "chat her" up somehow and see if a GFE may be possible.

Challenging to build the chemistry out there on the street when the girl doesn't talk. She does lip read Thai well. English I am not sure.

[Blanquiceleste]

Finally I went over to bargain with the prettiest one, her verbal negotiator friend said, "one thousand five hundred short time". I countered with one thousand, the negotiator said, "many men want her, one thousand five hundred". Once again I countered with one thousand (although tomorrow I go to Pattaya and this same one thousand would get two Beach Road girls so I was not too enthusiastic about the negotiation) and she said, "one thousand two hundred". I bowed gracefully, said thank you and walked away. The negotiator started saying something about "she go with you" but I kept walking. Looking back on the negotiation, the girls with verbal skills was much prettier than the mute girl I was pursuing. It might have been interesting if I shifted gears mid-negotiation and asked for the negotiator!

Earlier I received one of the best oily massage hand jobs ever at Kinnaree between JW Marriott and the entrance to Nana Road. One hour massage THB 500. I told the girl I'd give her an additional 500 for the hand job. I had a great time talking and laughing with Mose and ended up giving her a very generous 1,000. Guess I'm feeling Songkran generous. Funny that I would give 1,500 for a hand job but not for short time with a pretty mute girl! Such is life.

Yea, I really did not get the idea of walking away from a 1200 thb ST and blowing the (nearly) same amount on a massage and HJ. Perhaps it gives you winning feeling of having "negotiated" well? No offense, just trying to understand the psychology!

[BushWhack]

In your negotiation with the verbal girl, did she say anything about the quality of the Short Time, what might actually be on offer other than whatever is presumed to be a standard Short Time procedure? Anything mentioned like FS only, BBBJ+FS, BBBJ+CIM, Anal, BBFS, Two Hours of Up to You or something a bit more specific like that?

Tooms you may be onto something. I did not get so far as to discuss procedure or the short time menu, but that may be the issue causing so many men to walk away. I'm pretty standard, BJ followed by a few interesting positions and I'm done. I don't think a shortened menu would have queered my deal.

An interesting note: after walking away from the negotiation, down the street and back I noticed two of the mutes and the negotiator all clustered around the guy on the motorbike. The first thing that flashed into my mind was the girls were asking permission to accept a lower price. I watched three men disengage from the mute, then me. That's a good bit of business walking away. I'm not an investment banker but seems to me accepting THB 1,000 twice is better than demanding 1. 5 four times and getting nothing.

[EihTooms]

It sounds like you had a bad night with Merci and then this. I've had that happen to me before where no matter where you go in one night, nothing goes right. The mongering gods were just not on your side. If I see that happening to me, I call it a night and go home before more financial damage occurs via lady drinks, barfines, or massage rates. I remember one night between a bad Annie's experience, bad Angel Witch barfine, failed freelance Climax pick up, and a failed cart bar pick up, I had wasted about 10,000 in bullshit.

I have always maintained that it is quite easy to have 2, 3 or even 4 days in a row go badly in Thailand. And that is nothing new, either. It happened to me and guys I knew back when I was coming here (where I live now) 20-25 years ago on vacation. It was one of the reasons I much preferred the Philippines to Thailand in those days. Since the time and distance from USA to this part of the world was so great, I capitalized on the grueling journey by spending a week or so in the Philippines and a week or so in Thailand. I never regretted the time I spent in Thailand. But the reality was when I was in Thailand I missed the Philippines. However, when I was in the Philippines I never missed Thailand. The potential risk of having a bad run of experiences that might easily chew up a day, two or even three days in a row of my vacation time in Thailand, something that never happened to me in the Philippines, was one of the reasons for that.

Then, just as suddenly, it is really easy to have the next 3, 4, 5 or more days in a row provide some of the most satisfying and happy experiences in Thailand one could ever want and all is forgotten about the bad run. Or almost forgotten. I often wonder if I ever would have wanted to return to Thailand at all if the FIRST 3 days or so I spent here way back when happened to be one of those truly awful bad runs.

[Goons]

Guys,

I'm going next month, did some RTFF last month and starting to do more this weekend. Found most of the stuff I've been looking for but a few more things I need to ask.

First, I haven't been to a girlie bar in over two years, first time I'm going sober. I'm not in AA or anything but I'd like to maintain my 18 months without a drink so what are my options at these bars? Will going for a non alcoholic drink scare off the girls, maybe make me seem cheap or less likely to fall for their charms and attempts to secure customer?

I'm an early bird, my usual M. O. Was hit the bars early, between 7 pm to 10 pm to avoid crowds. I know girls are usually less likely to bargain and if they do barfine early, they are in more of a rush to get back and make more money than if they were BF'd later in the night. I guess there is no reason to expect any different in bkk?

In the past I've had success just hanging out in the bars and drinking with girls, getting contacts and making arrangements for the next day. This is partially to avoid the barfine and also because I prefer mid morning and afternoon sessions compared to drunkenly walking into my hotel with a girl late at night. From what I've read, doesn't seem like this is done a lot on BKK but I'm hoping I'm wrong about this.

[Member #4591]

Called in at Crazy House today briefly. Decided to leave after they put shows on. The shows are horrible because they use fat and ugly girls, to do stuff that mostly isn't sexy or beautiful in any way. Pretty girls are not willing to do the ugly shows.

However before that the line up was quite good today. Miles in front of last Monday. Can't say why? Two or 3 new girls were moderately interesting for looks and sexiness.

In addition, despite me knowing almost zero girls last Monday, today 4 of my regular girls were there: Jane, Oom, Noi, and Jan (Jun). All very good on the bed, nice GFE with DFK, and passionate and horny girls. Knew a few other girls: have previously done Ui and Naam, with Naam O.K. but not really great, and Ui hopelessly dick scared. Kratae and Ice (Geronimo) also present but never tried. Some other known girls like Taeng Mo, Boom, Phriao, and Mon were missing today (none of these are in my favourites).

Still not the former CH, but has its good and bad days. I could certainly get a nice fuck with a sleek pretty girl of my type today. For me the bar is O.K. for a short visit, if the right girls are there. If former girls Nat, Donut and May-Lee were still in CH, it would be too hard for me to stay away. All three very pretty with good bodies, and fun on the bed. Perhaps it is best they are not there.

Outdoor bars or cart bars have started to creep back to Sukhumvit. Depends on if they can pay enough corruption money. One was setup just past the Thermae, another between Soi 21 and Soi 23, and two more in Soi 23. Unfortunately I chose the wrong one between Soi 21 and Soi 23, because I knew a girl working there. I ordered a total of 4 drinks, 2 for me and 2 for the girl. However bill came and it had several more drinks for others girls that I knew nothing about, and had not sanctioned. I assumed they came from other customers. It seemed the girl ordered these by herself. I had never been ripped off at a cart bar before, or had anything like this happen, so was obviously a shock. Even I knew this girl very slightly before, I think they should sack her, for imagining me ordering drinks for everyone without me saying anything. You want to be careful about having too much fun at these places when staff start imaging drink orders, that never happened. Avoid this cart bar or certainly avoid the skinny girl called Lek. I am not sure that fault lies with anyone else. One girl actually asked me for a drink and I knocked her back, since did not know her at all.

It sounds like you had a bad night with Merci and then this. I've had that happen to me before where no matter where you go in one night, nothing goes right. The mongering gods were just not on your side. If I see that happening to me, I call it a night and go home before more financial damage occurs via lady drinks, barfines, or massage rates. I remember one night between a bad Annie's experience, bad Angel Witch barfine, failed freelance Climax pick up, and a failed cart bar pick up, I had wasted about 10,000 in bullshit.

[EihTooms]

I found a good bar stool at Big Dog's just at the entrance to Nana Plaza. Great location to watch the BKK world go by. Around 8 pm I saw the lineup of girls across the street in the Nana Hotel parking lot begin to fill. At the parking lot entrance most far from Hooters a small cluster of hot girls communicating with each other through sign language has sprouted up. I have watched them for a couple of nights. Several are cute little spinners, one in particular caught my eye. Over a few beers I watched as several men approached the hottest one (in my opinion), but then walked away. I assumed the price was too high. There was one girl with verbal skills who seem to be doing the negotiating for the mutes. The pretty one; to a few of the men she showed her phone screen to them and they immediately walked away. I wondered if there was something more than price going on. One guy lounging on a motorbike back behind the entrance sign may be running this crew, they all turn to him and communicate via sign every now and then. Finally I went over to bargain with the prettiest one, her verbal negotiator friend said, "one thousand five hundred short time". I countered with one thousand, the negotiator said, "many men want her, one thousand five hundred". Once again I countered with one thousand (although tomorrow I go to Pattaya and this same one thousand would get two Beach Road girls so I was not too enthusiastic about the negotiation) and she said, "one thousand two hundred". I bowed gracefully, said thank you and walked away. The negotiator started saying something about "she go with you" but I kept walking. Looking back on the negotiation, the girls with verbal skills was much prettier than the mute girl I was pursuing. It might have been interesting if I shifted gears mid-negotiation and asked for the negotiator!

Earlier I received one of the best oily massage hand jobs ever at Kinnaree between JW Marriott and the entrance to Nana Road. One hour massage THB 500. I told the girl I'd give her an additional 500 for the hand job. I had a great time talking and laughing with Mose and ended up giving her a very generous 1,000. Guess I'm feeling Songkran generous. Funny that I would give 1,500 for a hand job but not for short time with a pretty mute girl! Such is life.

Yes, I have observed that group with the motorcycle guy hanging around behind the sign for more than a year now. I don't think I have ever seen one of those girls walk off with a customer. Maybe just my timing. I have seen guys stand there exchanging phone screen images with them for extended periods before walking away and assumed it had to have been about more than merely "How much?" but at least partially about "For What?" In your negotiation with the verbal girl, did she say anything about the quality of the Short Time, what might actually be on offer other than whatever is presumed to be a standard Short Time procedure? Anything mentioned like FS only, BBBJ+FS, BBBJ+CIM, Anal, BBFS, Two Hours of Up to You or something a bit more specific like that?

I got stopped by one of the really skinny mute girls there about a year ago. She smiled broadly, waggled her eyebrows, winked, gestured to her mute friend and showed me her phone screen that said something like (I'm paraphrasing from memory now), "Two ladies for two hours 1,500". So I was just wondering if they are still communicating more than mere price either on their phone screen or through the verbal negotiator.

[BushWhack]

I found a good bar stool at Big Dog's just at the entrance to Nana Plaza. Great location to watch the BKK world go by. Around 8 pm I saw the lineup of girls across the street in the Nana Hotel parking lot begin to fill. At the parking lot entrance most far from Hooters a small cluster of hot girls communicating with each other through sign language has sprouted up. I have watched them for a couple of nights. Several are cute little spinners, one in particular caught my eye. Over a few beers I watched as several men approached the hottest one (in my opinion), but then walked away. I assumed the price was too high. There was one girl with verbal skills who seem to be doing the negotiating for the mutes. The pretty one; to a few of the men she showed her phone screen to them and they immediately walked away. I wondered if there was something more than price going on. One guy lounging on a motorbike back behind the entrance sign may be running this crew, they all turn to him and communicate via sign every now and then. Finally I went over to bargain with the prettiest one, her verbal negotiator friend said, "one thousand five hundred short time". I countered with one thousand, the negotiator said, "many men want her, one thousand five hundred". Once again I countered with one thousand (although tomorrow I go to Pattaya and this same one thousand would get two Beach Road girls so I was not too enthusiastic about the negotiation) and she said, "one thousand two hundred". I bowed gracefully, said thank you and walked away. The negotiator started saying something about "she go with you" but I kept walking. Looking back on the negotiation, the girls with verbal skills was much prettier than the mute girl I was pursuing. It might have been interesting if I shifted gears mid-negotiation and asked for the negotiator!

Earlier I received one of the best oily massage hand jobs ever at Kinnaree between JW Marriott and the entrance to Nana Road. One hour massage THB 500. I told the girl I'd give her an additional 500 for the hand job. I had a great time talking and laughing with Mose and ended up giving her a very generous 1,000. Guess I'm feeling Songkran generous. Funny that I would give 1,500 for a hand job but not for short time with a pretty mute girl! Such is life.

[Syzygies]

Called in at Crazy House today briefly. Decided to leave after they put shows on. The shows are horrible because they use fat and ugly girls, to do stuff that mostly isn't sexy or beautiful in any way. Pretty girls are not willing to do the ugly shows.

However before that the line up was quite good today. Miles in front of last Monday. Can't say why? Two or 3 new girls were moderately interesting for looks and sexiness.

In addition, despite me knowing almost zero girls last Monday, today 4 of my regular girls were there: Jane, Oom, Noi, and Jan (Jun). All very good on the bed, nice GFE with DFK, and passionate and horny girls. Knew a few other girls: have previously done Ui and Naam, with Naam O.K. but not really great, and Ui hopelessly dick scared. Kratae and Ice (Geronimo) also present but never tried. Some other known girls like Taeng Mo, Boom, Phriao, and Mon were missing today (none of these are in my favourites).

Still not the former CH, but has its good and bad days. I could certainly get a nice fuck with a sleek pretty girl of my type today. For me the bar is O.K. for a short visit, if the right girls are there. If former girls Nat, Donut and May-Lee were still in CH, it would be too hard for me to stay away. All three very pretty with good bodies, and fun on the bed. Perhaps it is best they are not there.

Outdoor bars or cart bars have started to creep back to Sukhumvit. Depends on if they can pay enough corruption money. One was setup just past the Thermae, another between Soi 21 and Soi 23, and two more in Soi 23. Unfortunately I chose the wrong one between Soi 21 and Soi 23, because I knew a girl working there. I ordered a total of 4 drinks, 2 for me and 2 for the girl. However bill came and it had several more drinks for others girls that I knew nothing about, and had not sanctioned. I assumed they came from other customers. It seemed the girl ordered these by herself. I had never been ripped off at a cart bar before, or had anything like this happen, so was obviously a shock. Even I knew this girl very slightly before, I think they should sack her, for imagining me ordering drinks for everyone without me saying anything. You want to be careful about having too much fun at these places when staff start imaging drink orders, that never happened. Avoid this cart bar or certainly avoid the skinny girl called Lek. I am not sure that fault lies with anyone else. One girl actually asked me for a drink and I knocked her back, since did not know her at all.

[Aviator12]

What experience do you have in Bangkok on Songkran? Does Songkran affect the sex business and how?

Participated last year. For the first time. I was not too enthusiastic about the idea because I generally try to avoid such events. I had the idea it was childish, a hazzle with big crowds etc. But I put on a cheap T shirt and shorts, covered my phone in plastic and went to Soi Cowboy in the daytime. And I had a blast! I mean, I am over 50 and thought that such activities was all in the past. But it was great fun and I do recommend you to try it out. Be prepared to get soaked of course, but do buy a "gun" and join in the water fights. It was just amazing. In the evening all was back to normal in Cowboy and business more or less as normal. It is true that some girls will go back to visit their family during Songkran, but don not worry; there are plenty left. And the daytime activity actually give you the opportunity to make friends (both male and female) so you will enjoy the evenings even more. Everyone was friendly and there is a festive feeling to it all. I did nor partake in other areas of Bangkok. Soi Cowboy in the daytime covered my needs for [CodeWord117]!