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  1. #37137
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Great if you believe herbs can be that good. Pity they had to add sugars, a very dangerous substance for your health. LOL Hemlock, Belladonna Deadly Nightshade, poison Ivy are all natural substances, right? Better to take something natural? Not necessarily.

    However perhaps less is known about long term effects of various chemicals and artificial molecules. And yet we only just start to learn how sugars are "killing us" slowly, could be a contributor to so many diseases. The scientific world seems to have weak knowledge about side effects of many things, since there is so much debate.

    If the Herbs really worked so good, I doubt that Viagra market would have taken off so spectacularly. These ingredients like Panax Ginseng, Polygonum, etc. Have been seen on many herbal products. I remain rather sceptical that they can act like Viagra, even if they do have benefits.

    I did see a miraculous improvement in a friends long term (stayed for years) blotchy coloured skin (caused by a chemical ointment), going back to normal, after taking Ginseng in Bee's Royal Jelly or something like that. Could have improved blood circulation to the area, maybe?
    As I mentioned, love for one and hate for another.

    Maybe you don't know the product clearly and that's why the negative feel towards it and skeptical about it.

    A product success is 70% depends on its marketing strategic.

    The main ingredient used in this is Longblack, know to the our Western and Tongka-Ali to the Asians.

    Is bitter and that's why the honey is added and naturally honey has it benefits for body too.

    Above aside, if sugar is slowly killing us, how beneficial is Viagra? You don't know its slowly killing the Liver too?

    To the westerners friends, mostly are still stick to the Viagra, but not the Asians anymore.

  2. #37136
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    My number 1 rule is I choose the girl, and rather than she chooses me. However the girl has to be keen too.
    I remember that some of the best LT sessions I had were with gogo girls from Suzi Wong who choose me.

    They came down after their turn on the catwalk, looked at me, gave me a wai and asked if they could sit with me for a while.

    It shows that the only rule is that you are to be flexible with your rules!

  3. #37135
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Ah yes well I don't pay attention to the numbers in this venue. Likely I might know the waitress by name. Too many mamasans in there (4 at least), to be buying them drinks. Only when they supply me with vital info about a girl sought. Yao was always my favorite waitress, not the most pushy. Unavailable due to married to a gogo bar DJ, but there is also another quite sweet shy waitress who does go with customers sometimes (not quite slim enough for me maybe).
    Remembered her name: Bam it was.

    Last night I went to Nana Plaza. Way better (IMO) then Soi Cowboy. Felt way more relaxed. Nice few places to sit down too and much more 'lively'. Nice girls too. Took one back to the hotel that was super funny and had a nice time. Elevator guy (or whatever they are called) asked if I 'knew her' but didn't bother after. She told me after the 'fun' a lot of info on how things work which was quite interesting to listen to.

    At one bar (I think it was on 2 d floor where they had buckets of ping pong balls you could throw on stage or wherever and the girls go nuts to catch some as they get 5 baht per ball or so. Nice girl sat with me, whole talk and drinks and all so I inquire about price and then she said she can't be barfined. Ehhh okay? I asked the reason but couldn't make it out what she was saying.

    Can anyone advise on the line of girls standing in front of Nana Hotel sign. Total No-go or are they okay? A few were nice but I read once on a blog (edit: found it: http://www.barnewsbangkok.com/page37.html) about it and seems bit sketchy. Anyone actually have good experienced with one there? Also: some seemed a bit young tbf. [CodeWord902]. Or would the police or whoever not allow that and check their ID's now and then?

  4. #37134
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiandihui  [View Original Post]
    This the one I mentioned much earlier. Proven and tested and its good, compare to Viagra if ask me. Pills for long term is a damage to liver. Better take something from natural herbs. Play safe and play long. But again, "Love for one guy may be a hate to another".
    Great if you believe herbs can be that good. Pity they had to add sugars, a very dangerous substance for your health. LOL Hemlock, Belladonna Deadly Nightshade, poison Ivy are all natural substances, right? Better to take something natural? Not necessarily.

    However perhaps less is known about long term effects of various chemicals and artificial molecules. And yet we only just start to learn how sugars are "killing us" slowly, could be a contributor to so many diseases. The scientific world seems to have weak knowledge about side effects of many things, since there is so much debate.

    If the Herbs really worked so good, I doubt that Viagra market would have taken off so spectacularly. These ingredients like Panax Ginseng, Polygonum, etc. Have been seen on many herbal products. I remain rather sceptical that they can act like Viagra, even if they do have benefits.

    I did see a miraculous improvement in a friends long term (stayed for years) blotchy coloured skin (caused by a chemical ointment), going back to normal, after taking Ginseng in Bee's Royal Jelly or something like that. Could have improved blood circulation to the area, maybe?

  5. #37133
    Quote Originally Posted by ItIsMe83  [View Original Post]
    Centrepoint terminal 21.

    "My number 1 rule is I choose the girl, and rather than she chooses me". That's a good one indeed. Will keep that in mind.

    I think it was number 32 I took with me. A waitress (number: 108) kept trying so hard too but I wasn't interested in her at all. The mamasan working there kept begging for drinks as well but she was such a moody woman I was like hell no.
    Ah yes well I don't pay attention to the numbers in this venue. Likely I might know the waitress by name. Too many mamasans in there (4 at least), to be buying them drinks. Only when they supply me with vital info about a girl sought. Yao was always my favorite waitress, not the most pushy. Unavailable due to married to a gogo bar DJ, but there is also another quite sweet shy waitress who does go with customers sometimes (not quite slim enough for me maybe).

  6. #37132
    Quote Originally Posted by ItIsMe83  [View Original Post]
    P.S.: Something I don't remember reading recently: If I see a girl that's standing on the street (with those signs and all) can I ask her to come inside with me for a drink or are those usually just for advertising and don't go with customers?
    One thing you will learn soon, is that in Thailand everything is negotiable and everything has its price.

    If you offer enough incentive, these girls will probably go with you.

  7. #37131
    Quote Originally Posted by Globoid  [View Original Post]
    What hotel across the street from Soi Cowboy?
    Centrepoint terminal 21.

    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Everyone has to make some mistakes and learn. Reading ISG can help avoid the mistakes. My number 1 rule is I choose the girl, and rather than she chooses me. However the girl has to be keen too.

    Some girls work outside the club with sign to attract customers. She may be able to go inside for a drink and some one else take over from her for a while. You will just have to ask her what the possibilities are. Can't say every girl like this will have the same rules.

    Try some recommended massage shops maybe, and see if you like that. Girl performance maybe more special from one of the pornstar type Massage shops.

    Would be nice if you reported the girl's name at Suzi Wong, and why you chose her. Some others here may know her.
    "My number 1 rule is I choose the girl, and rather than she chooses me". That's a good one indeed. Will keep that in mind.

    I think it was number 32 I took with me. A waitress (number: 108) kept trying so hard too but I wasn't interested in her at all. The mamasan working there kept begging for drinks as well but she was such a moody woman I was like hell no.

  8. #37130
    What hotel across the street from Soi Cowboy?

    Quote Originally Posted by ItIsMe83  [View Original Post]
    This forum inspired me to visit Thailand too and so it happened. Today I landed. I have never been to anything like this and only been once paid for a girl (In Scotland that was). I am a (very) young guy and so was wondering if this was for me. Sold my company recently so wanted to experience something 'new' on my travels after a gazillion times in 'western' countries and I think Thailand was def. Good enough for a culture shock! If not a shock to see how everyone drives.

    Okay so I am not experienced in it all but have been reading these topics for a while. I'm staying at Terminal 21 so nice and close to Soi Cowboy. Interesting to walk trough altho very uncomfortable the first 2/3 times somehow. Especially because I am by myself you feel a little more aware and had to get some confidence to actually go inside one club. Call it shy, but so be it. Choose Suzie Wong because of the show I read about so thought to try that first. Well. You learn a lot about yourself in this street: the Mostly the fact I have a hard time refusing things / saying no. I am normally easy-going in clubs and easily chat up girls but when you know they come to you with other purposes I somehow get crazily shy even after a few drinks. I used the tip from here never to say it's your first time but I bet they could smell it from a distance haha. Think I ended up paying for 4 ladydrinks for 2 different girls and then took the 2 d girl back to the room already for a ST. To be honest I am clueless why but I think I was just thinking: let's see how the whole process goes so I know for the rest of the holiday. She was reasonably nice so whatever. 650 barfine and 2500 for ST. Didn't have the guts (or didn't care enough) to discuss about the price. Money isn't a issue for me but then still. Lesson I should've taken from here is to always discuss price and don't accept first offer straight away. But well. Hotel is across the street so took her here. Reception didn't ask anything and wasn't very interested in going to reception for ID and stuff. I guess it's normal here but feels bit awkward. But when taking LT I will def do (for security). As I know where she worked and her attitude it felt safe enough.

    In bed she was nice enough. VERY different then what I'm used to in Europe size wise ofcourse and to be fair didn't feel much with her on top but he. It's nice to try different things so in other positions it was slightly better. Was ok'ish sex but def not something to remember forever but I was nervous too so all in all for a first time happy enough. I was glad she was sweet and easy-going and spoke decent English so all good.

    Anyway, next time I will take more time and I will prob feel more relaxed too. Still have to get used to just sitting down in random place and girls coming to you and then asking for drinks to say no if I'm not at all interested. But he. We all had a first time in this 'world' right So taking the 'lessons' aboard.

    Thanks all for the posts here. I'm sure your helping a lot of lurkers very well!

    P.S.: Something I don't remember reading recently: If I see a girl that's standing on the street (with those signs and all) can I ask her to come inside with me for a drink or are those usually just for advertising and don't go with customers?

    PS2: Excuse my English. It's not my native language!

  9. #37129
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiandihui  [View Original Post]
    This the one I mentioned much earlier. Proven and tested and its good, compare to Viagra if ask me. Pills for long term is a damage to liver. Better take something from natural herbs. Play safe and play long. But again, "Love for one guy may be a hate to another".
    Viagra, the real stuff, does not do any damage to your liver even with long term use. However, there are many herbs that do adversely affect the liver. Even green tea extract in concentrated amounts taken in sufficient quantities over a significant period can damage the livers of certain people. And there are many other natural herbs that can do the same besides.

  10. #37128
    Quote Originally Posted by ItIsMe83  [View Original Post]
    Hotel is across the street so took her here. Reception didn't ask anything and wasn't very interested in going to reception for ID and stuff. I guess it's normal here but feels bit awkward. But when taking LT I will def do (for security). As I know where she worked and her attitude it felt safe enough.

    In bed she was nice enough. VERY different then what I'm used to in Europe size wise ofcourse and to be fair didn't feel much with her on top but he. It's nice to try different things so in other positions it was slightly better. Was ok'ish sex but def not something to remember forever but I was nervous too so all in all for a first time happy enough. I was glad she was sweet and easy-going and spoke decent English so all good.

    Anyway, next time I will take more time and I will prob feel more relaxed too. Still have to get used to just sitting down in random place and girls coming to you and then asking for drinks to say no if I'm not at all interested. But he. We all had a first time in this 'world' right So taking the 'lessons' aboard.

    P.S.: Something I don't remember reading recently: If I see a girl that's standing on the street (with those signs and all) can I ask her to come inside with me for a drink or are those usually just for advertising and don't go with customers?
    Everyone has to make some mistakes and learn. Reading ISG can help avoid the mistakes. My number 1 rule is I choose the girl, and rather than she chooses me. However the girl has to be keen too.

    Some girls work outside the club with sign to attract customers. She may be able to go inside for a drink and some one else take over from her for a while. You will just have to ask her what the possibilities are. Can't say every girl like this will have the same rules.

    Try some recommended massage shops maybe, and see if you like that. Girl performance maybe more special from one of the pornstar type Massage shops.

    Would be nice if you reported the girl's name at Suzi Wong, and why you chose her. Some others here may know her.

  11. #37127

    First timer

    This forum inspired me to visit Thailand too and so it happened. Today I landed. I have never been to anything like this and only been once paid for a girl (In Scotland that was). I am a (very) young guy and so was wondering if this was for me. Sold my company recently so wanted to experience something 'new' on my travels after a gazillion times in 'western' countries and I think Thailand was def. Good enough for a culture shock! If not a shock to see how everyone drives.

    Okay so I am not experienced in it all but have been reading these topics for a while. I'm staying at Terminal 21 so nice and close to Soi Cowboy. Interesting to walk trough altho very uncomfortable the first 2/3 times somehow. Especially because I am by myself you feel a little more aware and had to get some confidence to actually go inside one club. Call it shy, but so be it. Choose Suzie Wong because of the show I read about so thought to try that first. Well. You learn a lot about yourself in this street: the Mostly the fact I have a hard time refusing things / saying no. I am normally easy-going in clubs and easily chat up girls but when you know they come to you with other purposes I somehow get crazily shy even after a few drinks. I used the tip from here never to say it's your first time but I bet they could smell it from a distance haha. Think I ended up paying for 4 ladydrinks for 2 different girls and then took the 2 d girl back to the room already for a ST. To be honest I am clueless why but I think I was just thinking: let's see how the whole process goes so I know for the rest of the holiday. She was reasonably nice so whatever. 650 barfine and 2500 for ST. Didn't have the guts (or didn't care enough) to discuss about the price. Money isn't a issue for me but then still. Lesson I should've taken from here is to always discuss price and don't accept first offer straight away. But well. Hotel is across the street so took her here. Reception didn't ask anything and wasn't very interested in going to reception for ID and stuff. I guess it's normal here but feels bit awkward. But when taking LT I will def do (for security). As I know where she worked and her attitude it felt safe enough.

    In bed she was nice enough. VERY different then what I'm used to in Europe size wise ofcourse and to be fair didn't feel much with her on top but he. It's nice to try different things so in other positions it was slightly better. Was ok'ish sex but def not something to remember forever but I was nervous too so all in all for a first time happy enough. I was glad she was sweet and easy-going and spoke decent English so all good.

    Anyway, next time I will take more time and I will prob feel more relaxed too. Still have to get used to just sitting down in random place and girls coming to you and then asking for drinks to say no if I'm not at all interested. But he. We all had a first time in this 'world' right So taking the 'lessons' aboard.

    Thanks all for the posts here. I'm sure your helping a lot of lurkers very well!

    P.S.: Something I don't remember reading recently: If I see a girl that's standing on the street (with those signs and all) can I ask her to come inside with me for a drink or are those usually just for advertising and don't go with customers?

    PS2: Excuse my English. It's not my native language!

  12. #37126

    Lollipop 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus9  [View Original Post]
    Lollipop 1 on Soi 10 is not far from there. It's a bit more covert. You don't have to do the walk of shame past 50 falangs. Lollipop is in another alley to the left just after you enter Soi 10 and it loops around back onto the main stretch of Soi 10. It's easy enough to keep strolling on by as if you are just wandering around. If you want a closer look, then just grab a beer inside for 100 baht. I don't have enough experience though to comment on the quality of girls in between all of the different BJ bars. I just assume that it's not that great and I'm happy to get a good BJ for 800 baht, 555!
    I used to stay at Centre Point Soi 10 during visits to BKK, so passed the Lollipop alley at last a few times a day. Stopped in for servicing a few times. Seems to get going later in the afternoon than other BJ bars in the area. Like most of these bars, the quality of girls is hit or miss. If you want to check the talent (or lack thereof) out, better to have a beer at the outside tables, where most of the girls are usually hanging out.

  13. #37125

    Vagueness

    Quote Originally Posted by KhaoLao  [View Original Post]
    I would say, definitively yes, especially from girls.

    As I have noted already somewhere here, the younger generation grew up with youporn and anything, and they take it as a fact today.

    Take at 30 yo today, and you most likely will have those awkward lamenting stories again.
    Lao Khao,

    What point are you making here? I am slightly lost. Sentences look not quite completed. Something about the core questions of life, or something to do with a BJ bar visit (the original poster's topic)?

  14. #37124
    Quote Originally Posted by Aviator12  [View Original Post]
    Cactus was one of the more quirky bars in Cowboy. And I loved it! Not for the girls; they were few and none of them pretty. But this bar had this special charm, excellent Belgian beer and old rock classics over the sound system.
    This does not sound like a business model to actually make any money. A Cowboy bar getting customers for the beer and rock music, and being so dark in there. Still I never understood the "Arab's" bars either, nor if "Cock-or-two" can attract many customers.

    Long Gun seemed a bit dull compared to old times, but was hassled too much for drinks, so made a run for it, last time, given no girl was to be BFed. I hate it when girls get called over to sit with you, when you have no interest in them. I can ignore girls but I don't like to have to be excessively rude and nasty to get rid of them. So overall Long Gun was a bit too pushy in 2016. Maybe one girl looked interesting to me. Desperately short of business these days perhaps?

  15. #37123

    Cactus

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnTraveller  [View Original Post]
    I looked into Cactus at Soi Cowboy today, and there were no nudes? All clothed.

    New owner?

    I guess the last reason for visiting Soi Cowboy is gone.
    Cactus was one of the more quirky bars in Cowboy. And I loved it! Not for the girls; they were few and none of them pretty. But this bar had this special charm, excellent Belgian beer and old rock classics over the sound system. Impossible to dance to for the girls, but a true gem compared to the music in some other bars. For older falang men passed 50 I guess. The bar is owned partly by John (who will be there most nights) and the owner of Long Gun / Penny Black etc. (the big fat lady who is there some times) but rumors has it that John sold a bigger part of his shares to this lady. As a result, he can no longer decide the music, the stage has got new LED lightning and the Cactus sign outside actually is lit!. It is expected that John will still be there and that they will adjust the music style according to the clients. Whatever that means. I came there for the Belgian beer, rock music (were else in Bangkok do they play Rory Gallager!) and the smalltalk with John. I will miss it. But I think the girls will still be nude. Long Gun has nude girls every night so why not in Cactus.

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