Bangkok Reports

[Shockman]

Hey Mr E:

How are ya?

You probably don't remember the nerdy Indian dude that accompanied Mr. Gogo in welcoming you to Sosua with a cold Presidente outside New Garden last year with naked chicas frolicking in the hot tub with naked chicas frolicking in the hot tub as a backdrop!

I've been RTFFing the LOS and AC forum and did not realize that I'd rubbed shoulders with a veritable renaissance man and kindred spirit.

I'm planning to return to LOS as part of a two month mongering trip this winter and was hoping our paths might cross again. The bulk of my vacation will be in India and am wondering if you'd be interested in checking it out if you have not already.

Happy and safe mongering.

Cheers.

Shockman.

Uhh. Ever heard of backpage?

[Roaming Viking]

Hello friends,

I am planning a trip to BKK soon and was wondering what Kasa Long is like these days. I have many fond memories and really want to return. SOL of light is also good. Please share any recent experiences. I have not seen much on the board of late.

Thank you.

[Syzygies]

Checked out 3 bars with 2 buddies last night in Cowboy.

First Crazy House. Most girls naked. Not really the top line up. Most of the best girls missing. Boom and Taeng Mo were there, girls I have taken in the past but both were dick scared and not repeatable for me. Number 144 Mook interested me slightly previously (great tits) but I doubt I will ever take her.

Number 49 Phraow is new girl of two weeks. Tan skin and very sexy manner. Good tits although starting to sag a bit these days. She is not new to me. I met her maybe two or 3 years ago at Doll House. A cock tease. She never wanted to kiss and was a starfish on the bed. So she comes to me eagerly, but I will not BF her naturally. I cannot think she has changed unless she deep tongue kisses me in the bar. LOL It is possible for girls to change but just not so likely.

CH now has ground floor shows. Fire Darts at the balloons, Lesbian show (not as good as at Suzi Wong), Cabaret Dance, Smoking Pussy. This is a bad development and is geared towards tourists. I do not enjoy it. Some girls doing the shows were old, and super ugly. Shows is the only way for these girls to make money most likely. I don't like to see too many horrible girls in a bar.

It is strange that CH has it's weakest line up on Friday and Saturday these days. Maybe top girls prefer to do something private on these days. Number of girls with nose jobs is getting too high these days. Could be 30 to 40 percent.

We went to Bacarra. No requirement to buy a drink on entry. Is that because bar was not absolutely full and a seat could be obtained? One buddy, new to Thailand, had immediate impression that girls were better in Bacarra. No fatties and no really incredibly ugly girls. CH has got just a few really ugly girls. However he probably had not had time to study the faces, because later he changed his tune and said he preferred the CH girls.

In Bacarra the stage is too full. Only front girls can be seen. They do not dance, only shuffle. The faces are all westernised surgeries look, with probably less than 10% of girls having a natural nose. Weird hair styles for the Japanese customers, although I detect a reduction in the stupid hair of the past. So my impression, looking at the faces in particular, is that none of them were really that pretty in a true Thai way. The girls all had bar and skirt so body could not be seen properly. Some silicones obvious. Some not. Maybe I spotted just one or two girls that were acceptable to me but far from stunning. Could not find the stunner I saw in front of Baccara a previous day. It's too full to be able to see anyone easily from a distance.

My overall impression is I much prefer Crazy House even though it's line up was well down from what it should be. However that is just me liking a real Thai look over a westernised altered look.

Next visited Suzi Wong. Most girls dancing nude. 90% of girls are "bpum bpui" meaning a bit over weight. Only about 4 girls reasonably slim: Dtom, Knot, Pat, and Yao. Yao now has sillies. Pat was one of the lookers in the bar before, but has 500 gm sillies now (very big D cups). Anne still looks good with her D cup sillies. Slim Knot would be my only choice (been with her several times before). However it seems she was BFed and customer may have been just waiting for her to dance in the oil show before taking her. Dtom and Knot are excellent for a threesome too. Dtom was already BFed, booked by a couple to do threesome. However I don't do threesomes much anymore. Getting too old and a little more thrifty. LOL Overall standard of the girls looks is far behind CH. Buddy barfined a waitress with a very cute face in a Thai style way, very cute upturned natural nose, and very nice manner for LT at a very good price. I think he chose very well indeed. I was impressed he chose a girl who looked so nice rather than a raunchy ugly type. She was prettier than the dancing girls, for the face, body may not be quite as good as some of the dancers. Of course clothed we could not see her body properly, so he took the punt that undressed she would look okay.

Suzi Wong shows are better: Lesbian show, body painting, oil show, soapy suds show. These type of shows are more erotic and not so ugly.

Overall I was pretty bored by all 3 bars, with Bacarra easily the most boring with clothed "aliens" just shuffling. There was little purpose for me, other than to check out the comparison.

Right now Billboard is another boring bar, excepting that I enjoy one girl who works there who is very cute, kisses great, BBBJs great, and fucks really good too. Billboard is just too dark and girls overdressed except for the bath area. Still it is supposed to be the best Nana Plaza bar these days.

Bars are generally dull unless get into party mode. It is purely the place to maybe find a pretty girl, play with her a little (better if she is nude), and take her away.

[Banana Boi]

Since most of the Walking Street clubs don't have coyotes they have their own stupid thing called Models. I believe girls need a Model license as well. I may have misunderstood the Thai Model telling me this. For what matters to us, the difference between a Model and a regular gogo girl is that the models (1) take off their tops or are naked when they dance, (2) ladydrinks are between 180-200 baht vs. 120-150, and (3) BF for Models in some clubs higher than a regular gogo club. Imo most clubs' models are not nearly as good looking or young as the regular girls in the club.

There is no chance I am paying extra for a coyote when there are so many other choices in BKK and Pattaya. Just take your time and look around I'm certain you will find someone way better than the coyote you're considering wasting an extra few 1000 baht on.

[Syzygies]

Dude,

It was a joke. And she too was trying to see how I would react.

She knows what she does and so do I, the only thing is what makes her diff is she " gets to decide who she goes out with" and " doesn't do stuff in bed which many do".

Although I did send her a perfume on her birthday last month. And she still thanks me for it.

My question was a simple one. Why does a person working already in Soi Cowboy as bar girl on salary and ST / LT, keep going to Malaysia, Japan?

And yup was really considering buying a house for her.

Thai girls are known to try on all sorts of things as a "joke" to test guys. She wants to guage how dumb or sensible you are.

You cannot write that you were considering it whether you joke or not. You need to self censor what you write.

I can remember coming to Thailand 25 years ago and being very "taken" by a Thai working girl. Wasn't thinking of buying her anything expensive, but was thinking she might become my girlfriend. Problem was she had many boyfriends. I was just one of the candidates. She trained me on how to give good DATY. I wasn't that expert at the start she claimed. Anyway she chose an American dude. Later turned out he had money but wanted to keep her like a house maid and spent all his time smoking weed. She realized she chose the wrong guy and returned to Thailand.

About 4 years ago I met up with her again. Now she said she definitely wanted me to be her BF. I had significantly improved in manners, and on the bed skills were now to her liking. The problem was, she had not improved, rather had gone downhill. Put on weight. No where near so cute. Bad smokers breath. She talked to much. Very repetative. I had lost interest in her. It was more than 20 years later.

[Syzygies]

Some Coyotes don't dance at all or do so only if called upon to do so by the management under certain circumstances. I'm talking about the Coyotes whose primary job is to look hot, stand outside the bars and cajole customers into going inside to start buying drinks.

However, aside from the kind of clothing they wear, whether they are wearing tights (pantyhose) or not and so on, one of the fastest and most certain ways to find out if the girl standing along Soi Cowboy who loops her arm into yours and tries to drag you into a bar to starting buying drinks is a Coyote is to simply ask her, "Are you a Coyote?" The girl will almost certainly admit it and say yes if she is a Coyote .

In my opinion the Cowboy and is full of fake Coyotes. They cannot be a Coyote purely from the style of dress in my opinion, even they say they are Coyotes.

In the normal sense of the word it is a particular type of dancer who happend to have a certain standard way of dressing.

Some Coyotes spend a lot of time in front of shops even if they also dance. The girls are young with good bodies mostly, not all. Are they stunners? No. Just a very small number are really pretty. Young does nor equal stunning.

Various shops have very high barfines for Coyote that reduce late at night. Does not mean the girl will fuck.

My understanding was girls from Arab bars do not fuck. Coyotes from Cowboy 2 do fuck but expensive. In general.

Billboard Coyotes are same as ordinary bargirls except may wear a bikini or cut off shorts. If everything is same as a bargirl, they can call themselves Coyotes but clearly they are not. They dance like bargirls, fuck like bargirls, cost same as bargirls.

Soon there will be nothing left but ladyboys and Coyotes, and bargirls term will be altered to only apply to nude dancers.

Last night noticed definite Ladyboy working front of Sahara shop to pull the customers. Did not go in. Seems to be a bad development if the entertainment ladies can be LBs.

[BrockStar]

If you like being swamped by the staff, you act generously to all, if you like to sit alone, you have to be quite aloof even if not quite downright unfriendly. I don't want to be swamped too many coming to me. So have to try to flick on the "mean" switch at times.

It can feel like a Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde type thing, where I can try to be exceptionally nice to some, and completely disinterested (if not mean) to others.

This is go-go bar etiquette 101. I'm typically never friendly, respectful yes, to the staff. I order a beer and say thank you, that's it. I made the mistake of being chummy with a couple in the past and the only thing you achieve is being taken for granted, which can be a major headache. This can apply to the dancers as well; there's an older gal at Mercury with humongous naturals that I felt like playing with one drunken night, so I bought her an LD and the next three or four times I went in I didn't stay long. The minute she saw me she acted as if I BF her before and immediately swarmed me. Thankfully, she doesn't appear to be working there anymore. Whew!

[BrockStar]

So last night I'm on Soi 4 and finally decided on taking an African, I take at least one from Beach Road whenever I hit Pattaya, but never in BKK. To make a short story even shorter, both of the ladies I went up to said 3,000! I immediately said, not tonight (didn't feel like haggling), I wound taking a Thai for a 1,000.

Do any of you guys have experiences with the African ladies? Is 3,000 the norm? In Patts it's only 1,000 so I was thinking 1,500, maybe 2,000, but not 3,000 no way. You can get two pops during a nice nuru massage for less than 3,000.

[Franciscass]

Thanks for the reply. Many wouldn't have wasted their time.

I have been talking to her even in Malaysia, she is very nice looking, unmarried no baby, lives with a friend, over confident I think she may be even be providing girls as when she leaves she gets busy 2 days before and has told me boss wants me to arrange everything from ticket to other girls. She speaks decent English and has been to college. Has told. Me about the bad and the good men she's been with Manushy she says so no one's kidding anyone.

Not in love too sensible for that shit but it's a damn curious culture, on one hand they value virginity, dowry paid to girls family etc on other an amazing girl like her is in this industry and not bothered to hide what she does. . I had no clue that they made so much money in other countries..

Your magnanimity Daebis in response to the insensitive comments of some grumpy members is truly outstanding. On the subject at hand I would advise caution moving forward. As you have correctly surmised this type of relationship is complicated. Time is your best friend in getting to know what is really going on. To this end staying in touch is good, meeting up is better but parting with even moderate amounts of money is ill-advised. Over time and I would suggest a minimum of six months you will know better what her true nature is. If she is as nice and as genuine as you believe and if the feelings you have persist you could then take it to the next level. Whatever happens I wish you luck.

[Daebis]

Thanks for the reply. Many wouldn't have wasted their time.

I have been talking to her even in Malaysia, she is very nice looking, unmarried no baby, lives with a friend, over confident I think she may be even be providing girls as when she leaves she gets busy 2 days before and has told me boss wants me to arrange everything from ticket to other girls. She speaks decent English and has been to college. Has told. Me about the bad and the good men she's been with Manushy she says so no one's kidding anyone.

Not in love too sensible for that shit but it's a damn curious culture, on one hand they value virginity, dowry paid to girls family etc on other an amazing girl like her is in this industry and not bothered to hide what she does. . I had no clue that they made so much money in other countries.

I don't come to Thailand so often but its just nice to get attention from a girl from another ethnicity.

Who likes to video chat when she's alone at night. Her boss seems to look after her as she takes nights off from bar.

And a perfume could get me thank you for a week as she was shocked to have received it just made me feel awesome.

Thanks Bkkdog for actually answering. Did I mention I am so curious about that world.

So then actually, it wasen't a joke LOL. So here is the answer to your stupid question that nobody would ask unless they were in love with that said bar girl. She can make double the money she's making in Thailand if she works in Malasyia, Hong Kong, Singapore, Japan, or South Korea. The reason why she only stays for a week is because she is working on a tourist visa or visa exempt entry stamp and it is too risky to stay longer.

On the other hand, her one of many sponsors is coming for a weeks holiday and she can't talk with you because she will be risking her monthly payment.

By the way, she seems like a great catch. Has many sponsors, has a baby, chooses who she does the deed with, and is restricitve in bed. Sorry, but i will stick to the 20-22 year old spinners if i was ever going to consider buying any ***** a house. LOL Good luck mate.

[Daebis]

April. Two places In soi cowboy, 700 BF and price mentioned.

How recent is this information? The barfine seems a bit low for a top end GoGo on SC. This is what tiny beer bars ask for in Pattaya. AS pointed out by BB the GoGos in Pattaya are all 1000 and above.

I also believe there is some silly showcard the girls at Baccara pull out when you ask about barfining a girl.

[Member #4591]

Anywhere from 2,000-3,000 for ST and 3,000-5,000 for LT. This will probably start another price debate but I could give a rats ass because this is the reality in Bangkok.

I apologize for leaving out the bar fine. The standard is 600-700 at a go go like Baccara, CH, or Billboared but can go up if you are dealing with a lady labelled as a coyote at some of the others.

[Member #4591]

Dude,

It was a joke. And she too was trying to see how I would react.

She knows what she does and so do I, the only thing is what makes her diff is she " gets to decide who she goes out with" and " doesn't do stuff in bed which many do".

Although I did send her a perfume on her birthday last month. And she still thanks me for it.

My question was a simple one. Why does a person working already in Soi Cowboy as bar girl on salary and ST / LT, keep going to Malaysia, Japan?

And yup was really considering buying a house for her.

So then actually, it wasn't a joke LOL. So here is the answer to your question that nobody would ask unless they were in love with that said bar girl. She can make double the money she's making in Thailand if she works in Malaysia, Hong Kong, Singapore, Japan, or South Korea. The reason why she only stays for a week is because she is working on a tourist visa or visa exempt entry stamp and it is too risky to stay longer.

On the other hand, her one of many sponsors is coming for a weeks holiday and she can't talk with you because she will be risking her monthly payment.

By the way, she seems like a great catch. Has many sponsors, has a baby, chooses who she does the deed with, and is restrictive in bed. Sorry, but i will stick to the 20-22 year old spinners if i was ever going to consider buying any ***** a house. LOL Good luck mate.

[Blanquiceleste]

700 + 2000st / 4000 LT.

How recent is this information? The barfine seems a bit low for a top end GoGo on SC. This is what tiny beer bars ask for in Pattaya. AS pointed out by BB the GoGos in Pattaya are all 1000 and above.

I also believe there is some silly showcard the girls at Baccara pull out when you ask about barfining a girl.

[Banana Boi]

700 + 2000st / 4000 LT.

Odd how BKK gogo clubs are cheaper than Pattaya ones for BF. Pattaya is reaching 2000 BF alone for some clubs like Glass House. 1500 for many before midnight.