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  1. #33431

    An Alternative Suggestion

    Newbies, if you want a GFE sessions with BKK Go Go girls then I strongly recommend that you do not negotiate their services up front! Do the opposite, but first things first. Take care of your personal hygiene. Shower, brush your teeth, rinse with mouthwash and wear clean clothes before you head out to the bars.

    Then once you are in the Go Go, take your time finding the right girl. Don't be in a hurry. Don't act like you NEED to get laid. Be cool and friendly. If you are horny, go to an oilie in the afternoon to take the edge off. Even when I am in one of my favorite Go Go's, if I don't see anybody I like available after 40 to 60 minutes, I will go somewhere else. No big deal. Never act aggressive, vulgar, drunk, or cheap. Be NICE! Be courteous. Be friendly! Treat the girls like you really like them and that they are "good girls". Ha Ha! Buy a girl you are interested in a couple of Tequilas. If her best girl friend comes around, buy her a drink (1 drink is enough). See how your prospective girl responds to you and how well the two of you are getting along. If she passes the audition and seems sexy / friendly; barfine her. If she is too BMD (buy me drink) oriented or not paying proper attention to you, then walk. It is that simple and 95% of the time you will have a great time unless you have certain unrealistic porn fantasies. Thai Go Go girls are kind of conservative.

    I am still amazed from time to time with what girls will do in bed without my asking. For example, I met a sexy Crazy House 18 year old in 2015. Back in the loom after a shower and some preliminaries, she got down to business with a very weak BJ. She was very fetching and sexy in the bar so I was a little surprised and somewhat dissatisfied. I sat up and began kissing her small breasts. Then she took my dick in her hand and began rubbing its head on her clit like it was a dildo. It was a very unexpected move. I would not have thought of it myself, but it was so basic and raw. It turned me on and from there we moved on to some great BBFS. Now I don't say this will happen to you if you do not negotiate up front, but I do recommend that you should trust you instincts, relax and rely on the girls you have screened and selected to show you a good time, provided you treated them right from the get go. This is BKK, not Amsterdam and BKK is still very very good.

  2. #33430
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Nana Plaza is not as visible to the visiting tourist as Soi Cowboy, the entrance of which can be seen from the Asoke BTS Skytrain station, at the entrance of the Sukhumvit MRT Subway station and from just about anywhere at the most heavily trafficked intersection in Bangkok. But you need to know where Nana Plaza is to find it without more detailed directions. A casual visitor isn't likely to simply stumble upon the entrance of Nana Plaza down Soi 4 on their way to Central Embassy. Consequently, Soi Cowboy bargirls encounter more of the transient tourist trade (which, IMO, accounts for why it is some Soi Cowboy bar owners' idea of a shrewd decision to populate the Soi with so many bait-and-switch Coyote scammers vs Nana Plaza that has relatively few) while Nana Plaza bargirls encounter more expat Bangkok residents and long time LOS punters.

    And, IMO, that is also why one can more likely get a real GFE with Nana Plaza girls than Soi Cowboy girls. The Nana Plaza girl is looking to hook up with a long time boyfriend / supporter. The Soi Cowboy girl is looking to make as fast and easy a buck as possible with this guy she assumes she will never see again. There are exceptions, of course. But I believe that is an important general difference between the two venues.
    When I moved to BKK in '99 Soi Cowboy was the expat hangout. Nana was for tourists. I think for the most part both are for tourists these days.

  3. #33429
    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    Crazy house was a letdown, one smoking hot chick #67 who gave my buddy shitty service. No BJ, no kissing. Rest were average. 9 pm visit, left at 10. Went to the best club I found so far. Bangkok bunnies. Good mix of talent, big enough club, enough eye candy to keep it interesting.
    Nana Plaza is not as visible to the visiting tourist as Soi Cowboy, the entrance of which can be seen from the Asoke BTS Skytrain station, at the entrance of the Sukhumvit MRT Subway station and from just about anywhere at the most heavily trafficked intersection in Bangkok. But you need to know where Nana Plaza is to find it without more detailed directions. A casual visitor isn't likely to simply stumble upon the entrance of Nana Plaza down Soi 4 on their way to Central Embassy. Consequently, Soi Cowboy bargirls encounter more of the transient tourist trade (which, IMO, accounts for why it is some Soi Cowboy bar owners' idea of a shrewd decision to populate the Soi with so many bait-and-switch Coyote scammers vs Nana Plaza that has relatively few) while Nana Plaza bargirls encounter more expat Bangkok residents and long time LOS punters.

    And, IMO, that is also why one can more likely get a real GFE with Nana Plaza girls than Soi Cowboy girls. The Nana Plaza girl is looking to hook up with a long time boyfriend / supporter. The Soi Cowboy girl is looking to make as fast and easy a buck as possible with this guy she assumes she will never see again. There are exceptions, of course. But I believe that is an important general difference between the two venues.

  4. #33428
    Quote Originally Posted by Markly2  [View Original Post]
    Brilliant advice! I shall print it and carry it in my wallet on my 1st time June visit.

    Thanks.
    Have a great time, Markly2! And have fun with that advice. Bear in mind, my goal is to keep the "negotiation / interview" process in the bar regarding actual or specific sexual activities as brief and as easy to agree to as possible. Asking for a BBBJ CIM is far more likely to get a positive response in the bar than BBFS or Anal, for example. Might even be easier for many girls to agree to that with a first time customer in the bar than going from ST to LT. However, once alone in the room where it truly becomes personal for the first time, these girls very often become far more agreeable to things they would never agree to with a first time customer in the bar. And my knowing the WORST case scenario when I get this girl in my room will be she gives me a BBBJ CIM is not an unpleasant prospect at all (Short of her having outright lied to me about that in the bar, of course, which can happen. But, as has been stated by others, you will at least then have justification to pay the liar quite a bit less or nothing at all for pulling that stunt).

    Another point; When I am on a mission to select a good (and new to me) girl for the evening and not just bar hopping around with friends or merely looking for a night of eye candy and giggles, I will get to this "negotiation / interview" bit with the girl who fits my physical and general demeanor requirements as soon as possible. And I mean within minutes, possibly even before buying the girl a single Lady Drink. I certainly might be inspired to consider choosing a girl with whom I was initially only up for having a drink with and a few giggles. But once that shift has occurred in my mind, I am right into the "negotiation / interview" process without delay.

    I realize that flies in the face of what many if not most punters think is the way to build "nice guy" chemistry and all that. But I submit that the peak moment when a female, even a P4 P female, is most intrigued and turned on about the prospect of fucking a man before this night is over is within the first minute or so of meeting him. That is the moment when you are new, mysterious, a conquest challenge for the woman, her mind is reeling over what it would take to win you away from every other female in the room. We're talking animal nature here, not civilized society. Do not ignore the power of that. Capitalize on it.

    Of course, that is all assuming other basic good first impression conditions have been met; hygiene passes muster, fresh clothes, presenting yourself with a sweet, genuine smile, confidence, fun but not inappropriately silly for your age, etc.

  5. #33427
    Went to Lollitas for a fuck with Anne. Unfortunately the special rooms are out of action being refurbished until Saturday. Also unfortunately Anne was a bit sick with a head and a sore pussy. Said she got 3 fucks yesterday and struggled to recover. Looks like it is well known she is a good fuck now more so than a BJ specialist. Cute face and even cuter nude (fabulous ass).

    Was offered BJ but that was not what I was looking for. Postponed till another day.

  6. #33426
    Quote Originally Posted by LAGuy5  [View Original Post]
    I know this has been mentioned here before, but I can't seem to find the post or posts that refer to the name of the street or area in Bangkok where there are a few go go's and P4P bars primarily for Thai men. I was there once, but it was sometime ago and am thinking of returning to check it out again (with a Thai friend who himself is unfamiliar with the area). Any help with the name of the street or area, as well as any up-to-date information (such as whether it is still there with go go's, etc.) would be appreciated.
    https://goo.gl/maps/jzV2amcu3p92

    T. Det 99 (gogo bar).

    Corner of Sutthisan Winitchai road and Intamara 2 Alley. Near to Saphan Kwai BTS station.

  7. #33425
    Quote Originally Posted by DCups  [View Original Post]
    Any Dee Cups, Syz?

    .
    I did not see any D cups. However plenty of Silicone Cs. Did not see any big naturals at all. Bear in mind that I was only in there for about 40 mins total, enough time to do a quick survey of all the girls not missing. Naen has natural Bs I guess.

    Even Crazy House doesn't really have any full D cups. Two or three girls are quite good Cs, and 2 or 3 silicone Cs as well.

    It's really not easy to find true D cups in general on girls with a good figure. I make do with Ging's big swinging C+ tits at CH and she is quite slim cute.

  8. #33424
    Any Dee Cups, Syz?

    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Then Bangkok Bunnies.


    I would say that Bangkok Bunnies is a silicone paradise but not very entertaining for me to watch them dance, as I prefer slim natural tits naked girls at Crazy House. So no way to drag me away from Crazy. Best bar for Breadman. He must be into Sillies big time.

    Obviously Bacarra and Crazy House remain far more popular bars than these two and are really very full at a similar time of night.
    .

  9. #33423

    Nana Bars

    Tonight I checked out 2 Nana bars.

    First Mandarin Upstairs. Approx. 9:45 PM.

    Talent was not quite up to previous visit. Bar was pretty boring. Many girls on the stage either doing a little shuffle or just standing there. Dance a bit when a better song comes on. Generally Coyote girls did not know how to dance properly. One Coyote had a bit of the arm horizontal sweeping movement going. Best looking was a Coyote girl with black outfit and orange trim for figure and moderate dance ability, #160 (New), however face was not quite my spec. Did not call any girl over fro a drink. Some girls had Bacarra type crazy hair style but not many. Perhaps 40% of girls had nose jobs, maybe more. Did not notice any silicone tits at all. Bar was only half full of customers, if that, with lots of spare seating. Looks of girls in general was well above average, with a consistent standard, but no girls extremely pretty to really grab the attention. Drinks were cheaper than Crazy House a little bit, but the entertainment was almost non existent. Little reason to return. Very few customers were entertaining a girl next to them.

    Then Bangkok Bunnies.

    The front section (toward Plaza entrance) was definitely buzzing more than Mandarin upstairs. Girls were dancing more actively. One or two very pretty girls (with customers) and general face standard was high. Naen (ex Crazy House) a short older girl with a really great body was there. Unfortunately her tits and ass were covered spoiling her best assests. Unlike Mandarin U, some girls were topless. This did not help much as no really great tits on display since most girls had silicone tits (maybe 80%) and some others had saggy tits and some may have had nice tits but were covered, and some had fake noses. Bar was half full or a little more, but a lot of vacant seating. Bar will take time to build up the business. Customers were entertaining a reasonable number of girls. Price of drinks was similar to Crazy House. My soda and Naen's shot was 330 Baht.

    The back section of this bar had a different type of girl, the ordinary lookers, but no girl in the back section had silicones (while I was watching). Still none were of interest (very average looks), so this section of the bar was very quiet indeed for customers. This stage of more average girls, is probably equivalent to the lesser lookers on second floor of Crazy House.

    I would say that Bangkok Bunnies is a silicone paradise but not very entertaining for me to watch them dance, as I prefer slim natural tits naked girls at Crazy House. So no way to drag me away from Crazy. Best bar for Breadman. He must be into Sillies big time. Sillies is not eye candy for me.

    Obviously Bacarra and Crazy House remain far more popular bars than these two and are really very full at a similar time of night.

  10. #33422

    Crazy House

    Has any one tried this girl from Crazy House?
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  11. #33421

    Best gogo lineup so far

    Crazy house was a letdown, one smoking hot chick #67 who gave my buddy shitty service. No BJ, no kissing. Rest were average. 9 pm visit, left at 10. Went to the best club I found so far. Bangkok bunnies. Good mix of talent, big enough club, enough eye candy to keep it interesting.

  12. #33420

    Go Go Area primarily for Thais

    I know this has been mentioned here before, but I can't seem to find the post or posts that refer to the name of the street or area in Bangkok where there are a few go go's and P4P bars primarily for Thai men. I was there once, but it was sometime ago and am thinking of returning to check it out again (with a Thai friend who himself is unfamiliar with the area). Any help with the name of the street or area, as well as any up-to-date information (such as whether it is still there with go go's, etc.) would be appreciated.

  13. #33419
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    It is not a stupid question at all. In fact, although it is rarely addressed here, it is at the crux of the P4 P scene.
    Brilliant advice! I shall print it and carry it in my wallet on my 1st time June visit.

    Thanks.

  14. #33418
    Quote Originally Posted by EricSwiss  [View Original Post]
    I'm sorry, it's probably a stupid question, but what are recommended interview questions?

    You Blow Job no-condom? Yes / No.

    I like to take time for boom-boom, you rush me? Yes / No.
    It is not a stupid question at all. In fact, although it is rarely addressed here, it is at the crux of the P4 P scene. Different circumstances call for a different approach, but for me the circumstances generally fall into one of these 3. And in all cases it is assumed I am attracted to the girl enough to want to be with her, not just responding to any girl approaching me:

    1. I am so smitten by the girl there is no need to ask anything specific because I honestly do not care if the only thing I get out of the experience this time is DATY, as long as I get her out of the bar and into my room where the real chemistry for how much GFE will be had and time will be spent is ultimately established. It happens. In a case like that, I might even be the one to ask if she wants to go barfine before she asks me, which is rare because I would much rather the girl ask me first, and most do. If this particular type of girl asks me first, I still would probably not ask her about anything specific, just pretend to give it some thought and eventually say yes. LOL.

    2. It matters what I get in the room tonight, the girl asks me to pay her barfine but she does not bring up an amount of money for her. My interview process would go something like this, keeping it fun and playful:

    - Pay your barfine? What will we do in the room?

    "Ha ha. Everything. Up to you. "

    - Everything, up to me? I like everything, up to me. You do good sa-moke?

    "Sa-moke?"

    - Blowjob. You give good blowjob, cum in mouth everything, no condom? Will you do that for me?

    "Yes, I will do that for you. "

    End of interview process. If her response is notably negative, I bail. If it is notably positive, I am in.

    I don't ask anything more in this regard unless she brings it up and wants to talk about it more. I now have heard everything of value that I could possibly learn in the bar BECAUSE belaboring the subject longer in the bar accomplishes little and all of the more important matters in terms of how good or how long ANYTHING gets will be established as nature takes its course when we are alone in the room and she has really gotten more comfortable with me. It will not be learned when we are both dealing with a ton of distractions and interruptions in the bar. My question about how she would finish a blowjob is asked only to establish a floor, a fall back position below which I do not want to go if our chemistry, the boom-boom conditions, whatever does not go as well as I want in the room. I may have no intention of going for a blowjob with this girl but I ask the question (that her response elicited, btw) anyway. I wind up boom-booming, my way, girls who give that answer about 65% of the time or more. I go for the blowjob the other 35% of the time. Which is a perfect boom-boom to blowjob ratio for me.

    3. It matters what I get in the room tonight, the girl asks me to pay her barfine and at some point brings up an amount of money she wants me to pay her. Some guys take this as a sure sign to bail, the girl bringing up how much money she wants, that is. I used to feel that way too. But I have since learned it is actually a nifty opportunity to get a whole host of important issues hammered down and out of the way long before we get to the room. I welcome it now. Recognize that she has thrown a hardball by citing her dream number baht amount she wants me to give her. So it is time for me to throw a hardball right back. But it won't be a hardball about how much money I will give her. It will be a hardball about the level of pleasure I would expect if I paid her dream amount. It would go something like this:

    - 3,000 baht? Hmmm. If I pay a lady 3,000 baht I would need her to (and this is where I ask for the world. Fill in with whatever your best P4 P experience would be; Long Time until noon tomorrow, multiple pops, BB this or that, DFK, shaved pussy, you name it.)

    "oh no, I cannot do XYZ. But the other things ok. "

    - hmmm. Well, if you don't do XYZ, then I can only give you 2,000 baht. You ok?

    "ok"

    Maybe it will go back and forth a couple more times until she gets me to another number or she agrees to do something more. But this can still be done playfully and fun. I have had plenty of great, hassle free experiences with very good girls this way because a lot of the stuff I'd rather not have a conversation about in the room has already been settled and now we can work on that chemistry to make it all more relaxed, enjoyable and agreeable.

  15. #33417

    Farmfresh

    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    Buddy of mine just picked up a cutie from stumble inn, 4 days in town. Didn't know what "barfine" was. Think he hit gold.
    Reminds me of the girl I met at the bar, brought me a beer with a glass. I asked her: don't you want to drink something yourself?

    She went and got another glass for herself. First day of course, unfortunately I was not free to take her.

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