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  1. #32681

    Photo issue

    Hi everybody,

    Guys I am facing an issue while trying to access the photos. When I click on the photos written next to the Bangkok reports it takes me to another page without any info on the person who has uploaded it and only the photo opens. When I click on the forum photos on top it takes me to another page and it even gives me the choice to access the original post and the info on the member. I am confused please help.

  2. #32680
    Quote Originally Posted by IllusionHeart  [View Original Post]
    November 10 (Day 3: Tuesday)
    Afternoon: Angel Massage
    I was walking towards snowhite but changed mind midway and reached angel massage instead around 3. 30 pm. Few girls available, saw a girl smile and took her. Name was Ann. Decent looking with be sized breast. Once in the room her attitude changed. Her smile was gone and things started...
    You reports are very well written and I am sure that everyone here appreciates the effort you have put into it for all of us who are planning a trip to the LOS.

  3. #32679
    Quote Originally Posted by IllusionHeart  [View Original Post]
    November 10 (Day 3: Tuesday)
    Afternoon: Angel Massage
    First visit in BKK wherein I did not have a girl in room in any of the 3 nights. LT seems to be on the decline as more and more girls are finding daytime jobs. Hope mine is an isolated incident and not representative of the changing nightlife trend in BKK.

    Continued in Pattaya Thread
    Awesome Report IllusionHeart: Seems you have a True and sweet heart rather than an illusion heart: Its been so long I havn't been in Bangkok must have been a year but your report made me horny for BKK. These Dubai girls are not even close to the sexy thai charm. Reading your FR made me think again about Climax, Insomnia, Mixx, Shock 39 , Bossy, Levels and RCA clubs.

    But this time I would also sample the gentleman's clubs and some university style bars where you can find university students wanting to make some part income part sugar daddy Lolllll.

    Nothing beats a soft sweet tight thai pussy, These lasses make you crazy from them time and again. One of my best mongering is based in Bangkok as I love the city and it has one of the best eating joints according to my taste.

    Keep up the good work mate and inspiring all others to write so detailed and precise FR's which benefits all. We have to keep this thread moving on and on.

    Adios Ciao.

    Alex

  4. #32678
    Quote Originally Posted by LAGuy5  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for your recent FR posts so far. They have been informative and interesting to read.
    Always welcome mate, appreciate you reading them.

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleVolodya  [View Original Post]

    Overall it sounded like a great trip. I wish I could have been there!
    UV I did miss your company after the brief fun we had with Khmer women in Phnom Penh. I will look forward to reading your experiences in LOS after your trip.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste  [View Original Post]
    Keep them coming mate. May the force be with you.
    Thanks Blanqui, kind of you to read the FRs and appreciate them. Yes I will keep them coming. Got a trip lined up to Indonesia and Philippines during the new year. Hope our paths cross somewhere. Its a small world after all.

  5. #32677
    Quote Originally Posted by IllusionHeart  [View Original Post]
    ....Continued in Pattaya Thread
    By far the best reports across all SEA forums over the past week or so. Informative, descriptive, entertaining. Well formatted for easy reading. This has it all. It is like a breath of fresh air after all the non constructive arguments over the past couple of weeks across forums.

    Keep them coming mate. May the force be with you.

  6. #32676
    Illusionheart:

    Wonderful reports my friend!

    It was also good to get filled in on your last night in Pattaya.

    Overall it sounded like a great trip. I wish I could have been there!

  7. #32675

    Illusionheart

    Thanks for your recent FR posts so far. They have been informative and interesting to read.

  8. #32674
    Quote Originally Posted by MrTran  [View Original Post]
    Further to my post below.

    Please see attached.

    Off to crazy house and then Mitu massage in 3 hours.

    Relieve some unwarranted stress.
    I saw her on WeChat when I was in Bangkok last week. Did not engage with her because I don't like some of the comments posted. Also the picture of expensive presents shows a materialistic person. However I will be in Bangkok again in January and I'll engage with her on WeChat and have some fun with her to teach her some lessons.

  9. #32673

    A week in LOS

    November 10 (Day 3: Tuesday)

    Afternoon: Angel Massage

    I was walking towards snowhite but changed mind midway and reached angel massage instead around 3. 30 pm. Few girls available, saw a girl smile and took her. Name was Ann. Decent looking with be sized breast. Once in the room her attitude changed. Her smile was gone and things started to get mechanical. Usual shower and on bed. Tried with halfhearted effort to massage. No kissing, Lacklustre BJ and average sex without any response. Starfish. I pumped for some time, changed positions but couldn't finish. Walked away without giving her any tip. 2200 baht down the drain.

    Overall experience 0 /10.

    Evening: Lord Massage

    After reading through Natty and other members visit I also wanted to visit Lords once. It was a decision between going to "The pimp", a gentleman's club and Lord. I decided to go for Lord. I took the MRT from Asoke up to the Thailand Cultural Centre and then a cab to Lord. I paid him 100 baht after being turned down by 3 or 4 cabs. I reached around 8 pm. Once the doors open this place just gets you. It is quite a large and extremely opulent place. As I walked up the stairs I was greeted by a mamasan. She got me seated to the left side sofa in front of the girls. I was going to take my time to find a girl hence ordered for a drink. While my drink was being brought she showed me a small paper on which prices were written. I recall as below. Do correct me as I checked the lowest and highest correctly.

    M: 3400, and: 4400, O: 5400 then either 6400 or 7400, X: 9400 and lastly XL: 10400.

    I said I was ok with the prices but needed to see the girls up close. The mamasan then led me towards the girls and I got a good and close look at them. There were approx. 10 to 12 girls. All other girls were seated in the centre area while the XL girls were seated on chairs separately to the right. I found a girl smiling towards me and I also seemed to like her. I went back and sat. Thought for few minutes while the mamsan was also seated beside me making recommendations. I told her I wanted good service to which she pointed at the girl which I had also liked. She was Ann, O category girl costing 5400 baht. I nodded in agreement and was led by the mamasan towards the reception wherein I paid the money. Gave 200 baht tip to the mamasan who smilingly accepted. Then I was taken to the room. I had asked Ann to order a drink for herself as well. I had budgeted 10 to 12000 baht for this visit and was within comfortable range now.

    We waited in the room for Ann's drink while she went and got her kit. The room was small but very plush. Much better than ones I have seen in soapies so far. We got ourselves undressed and chatting. She turned on the water in the tub. Usual pleasantries. Ann told me that she was going to her village for a month and it was her last day working before her holiday. Ann was looking to make some money but had not got a single customer that day. While feeling sorry for her I was happy that atleast she would service me well in anticipation of a good tip. Ann took me to the tub and started soaping me up. Ann was in a good mood now and was softly singing some thai song. I was feeling good and had started to enjoy her company. Ann was a small but cute girl. She had be sized breasts and a lovely tight butt. Ann cleaned me up front and then cleaned my shaft and jewels. Then Ann lifted me up from the hip and rested me on her thighs. Started to give me a BBBJ. Routine looked similar to Mitu. The Japanese customers surely seemed to have trained these girls on six sigma process of a perfect soapie wherever they visit I thought. Need to thank them. We do get a standardized routine from these girls in Japanese oriented places. Ann then turned me and cleaned my back while slowly massaging me. Her soft singing was adding to the moment and was making the experience more sensual. Ann tgot me out, cleaned me and led me to the bed. We sipped on our drinks for some time. Ann lied beside me and we started kissing. Ann did DFK well and was playing around with her and my tongue very well. Ann had my shaft at her fingertips and was giving me a slow massage while I was exploring her pussy at the same time. We continued for some time till she got up and started kissing me all over. She led herself down to my shaft and gave me a very good BBBJ with licking and tongue play. Skilled lady I must say. I handed her the sagami to which she seemed exposed to and got it out and on my shaft immediately. She wanted me to take her in missionary. I played with her for some time tasting her breasts and rubbing her pussy. She stopped me and guided me to enter her. As soon as I entered she closed her eyes and kissed me deeply. I thrusted for some time and could feel she was going to come. I continued with some fast movements till Ann came and her body shuddered. Her eyes opened and there was a smile on her face I kissed her deeply and continued. I changed position and got her on top of me. Then got her to go doggy. I kept pumping her holding her breasts and kissing her neck and back. Ann was also enjoying it and few moments later she slowly slid on the bed and I came. I realized that Ann had come for the second time. I had amazing sex with her and Ann was looking happy as well. I rested for some time. Ann cleaned me up and got my drink. Then she told me that we had 10 minutes left. I really didn't know 90 minutes could pass so fast. I asked her if she wanted to go for another to which she said that they do only 1 pop in 90 minutes. I will have to pay entire money to go for a second round. It seemed that Mitu was a better deal comparatively. We took shower, got dressed. I gave her 300 baht tip and was out of the place.

    It seems to me now that Lord is more about service rather than looks of the girl. The quality of girls was matched later on my trip which I will describe in Pattaya thread. I don't think I will repeat Lords. No significant value add for me except for the plush surrounding and ambience. Girl quality was not over impressive but just good. Service however was assured and one can choose to pay these prices if that assurance is important.

    Overall experience 8. 5 /10.

    Once out I decided to walk to Huai Khwang MRT. While I was walking I came to Nataree and decided to look at the girls to make some comparison of what I had seen. As soon as I entered the papasan joined me. He took me around the entire circle right upto the sideliner girls costing 5000 baht. I took time and looked around well. The first thing to hit me was that Nataree is very cozy. One can just walk very close to the girls. Secondly the girl quality at lord was definitely better or atleast the ambience made it feel like so. The sideliner girls at Nataree seem to be extremely young dolls in comparison. Whereas the average age of the girls at Lord looked higher comparatively to my amateur eyes. I moved on and the papasan kept calling me pointing at girls to choose. I walked out and towards MRT station.

    Night: Patpong


    It was 10 pm and I decided to head to patpong and try again.

    Bada Bing:

    I settled down and was looking Aoy. She was nowhere in sight. Might have got barfined or not reported for work will remain a mystery for me which I don't intend to find out. I spotted another gazelle with less body art. I signaled for her to come over. She did when girls changed stage. Got her a shot. Usual pleasantries. She was willing to do ST only. I told her that I was not interested and she can carry on. I settled the tab and decided to check other bars. I exited from the back side in the small alley. Went to the night market street. Saw few girls on stage in one of the bar and decided to enter.

    Thigh Bar:

    The papasan got me seated. Got the menu with prices for own drink as well as lady drinks. This is a rare concept now and seems to be seen only in patpong bars. I started scanning. Another mamasan joined me. There were approx. 3 or 4 customers in the bar, pretty empty. They started calling girls one after another describing how good they were. I told them to stop and said I would select on my own. As I was looking around I saw a PYT sitting behind the bar busy on her phone. I asked the papasan to call her. He got her to my table in minutes. She was really cute upclose. We started chatting, got her and papasan a drink. Things started loosening up. Usual pleasantries. I checked with the papasan on the barfine. He told me ST was 3000 baht and LT was 5000 baht. Prices seems to be more compared to Nana and Soi bars. There was a further catch. While ST was 2 hours, LT was not till afternoon but only till 5 or 6 am. So effectively 5 or 6 hours. That was crazy. Rather than engaging with the girl I asked the papasan if the girl did LT. He said that she did only ST and could go for 2 hours only. I stuck around to finish my beer. In the meantime girl was very eager and added me to her facebook account. She keeps sending me messages every 2 days to which I keep responding. Hopefully on my next trip will fix something with her outside the bar. I settled, said my goodbye to the girl with a promise to come back the next time and left.

    Kings Castle I:

    KC1 was the next bar I entered after being hassled by the guys from first floor bars who keep pestering and following you. From what I have read on the net these are mostly trap bars and known for cons on customers. Under no circumstances should one get into any first floor bars and avoid the like the plague unless they have been there before and know it to be a good one which I seriously doubt.

    Around 8 girls on stage, 2 were to my liking but same policy of ST & LT seems to be getting in the way. I had experienced an amazing session at Lord and didn't want to ruin it so fast by doing a ST. LT was not justified due to the high price tag and cutoff time of 5 or 6 am. I finished my beer and went back to Hotel. Cab guys will take you for a flat fare of 150 or 200 baht. No one wanted to go by meter on both nights I have been there.

    Climax

    I reached climax around 1. 30 am. Crowd was as good as earlier day. I took my beer and walked the entire circle of the club. Few options noticed. Then I approached a girl who was standing with 1 of her friends near a table in between the bar and the centre stage. There was a dance show and live band going on. Entertaining stuff. She was slightly drunk so was I. We got chatting and she was in a mood to dance. She had come to Climax after a long time. She needed to pay rent and had fallen short as she had to buy a mobile, reason being she dropped her phone somewhere after a party with friends. I didn't buy the story but it helped in conversation and connecting with her. We shook booty for some time and I asked her if she wanted to go with me. She agreed for LT and asked 4 k. I thought it to be ok considering she was a good looking gal with decent body. Then her friend intervened. She was more drunk. She stated that I should pay the money upfront to her. I was carrying the money and showed it to her. The girl with whom I was talking was named May. May was kind of agreeing to my offer of being paid in the morning. Somehow her friend was ruining it for us. I couldn't take her meddling and took my beer and walked away. As I was circling again spotted another one and walked up to her. Usual pleasantries and then the Q. She was game for ST only. I passed on her. Suddenly the music stopped. It seems the police had stopped the music. There seem to have been some security issue due to which all bars were being closed early. Another failed night in BKK. I walked back to hotel for a good night's sleep. I was travelling to Pattaya next day for 4 nights hence had my hopes pinned there now.

    Though I had planned earlier I just could not get myself to visit Scratch dog. I had read on Singapore forums that it is frequented a lot by Uni gals and club is oriented more towards Korean guys.

    First visit in BKK wherein I did not have a girl in room in any of the 3 nights. LT seems to be on the decline as more and more girls are finding daytime jobs. Hope mine is an isolated incident and not representative of the changing nightlife trend in BKK.

    Continued in Pattaya Thread

  10. #32672

    A week in LOS

    November 9 (Day 2: Monday)

    I wanted to by Sony Wireless headphones. I have been wanting to purchase them for some time now and are they are expensive in Singapore. I had searched the net and found that the price was definitely lowest in LOS. I went to Jetlive audio in Exchange plaza at corner of Asoke Junction, diagonally opposite of Terminal 21 across the junction. 5000 baht well invested.


    Afternoon: Addict Massage

    I reached Addict around 4 pm. I had never been here and originally wanted to go to "A Touch of Class" but they were closed for renovations. The lineup was very good. 3 customers including me had entered at the same time so pressure was on to select before girl gets picked up by someone else. Had a good look around. Line up was approx. 25 odd girls. Some of them were really beautiful. Liked the lavender and yellow dress making them look like cabin crew. I was making eye contact and looking around. The mamasan was offering her pet ones which I was declining. She left me alone and engaged with the other customers. I found someone looking back to me and smiling and selected her. Name was Fem, Sweet smile and be sized rack. She took me to the counter and asked me to select the time and type of massage. I took the 1 hour oil massage for 2200 baht. She then took me upstairs and was not able to find room. We went up and down floor and she could sense that I was getting upset. She apologized to me and said that she had started working only few days back and dosent know the place fully yet. I smiled and kept patient. We finally got ourselves into a room on the second floor. Room was nice. Usual pleasantries, She took me to shower, gave a BBBJ in the shower. I held and kissed her and she responded. Onto the bed for a good 20 minute hard oil massage. She relaxed my nerves completely. It was rare but good experience. While she was squeezing my shaft between her breasts during B2 be I pulled her towards me and started kissing her. She stroked and got me hard. Got her to move down. She gave me a decent BBBJ with some ball licking. Got the rubber on and told her to ride me. Must be a communication gap I guess but she rode me reverse cowgirl. I didn't mind it and enjoyed it. Got her into miss with some good responsive kissing and eventually finished in doggy sweating and panting. She also seemed contended as she had come. Could see the wet patch on the bed with her juices flowing out. We lied holding hands for some time. Cleaned up, gave her 300 baht tip and left.

    Overall experience 7. 5 /10.

    Evening: Wechat

    Lazing around and trying wechat hooked up with Noey who had just returned from work and was willing to come over for 2000 baht ST around 11 pm. I wanted to go out and called her over at 8 pm instead to which she agreed. She reached in 20 minutes and took a motorbike instead of a regular taxi to reach on time and avoid traffic. I was impressed. I met her in the lobby as I was slightly skeptical to let her to my room directly basis of my Jakarta experience. She turned out to be every bit I expected. Be+ breasts and nice smile. Very positive attitude and spoke English pretty well. As usual though she had showered and come from home but got us both into the shower. We got on the bed and started chatting. Noey was an insurance salesgirl working for a leading Insurer. She supplemented her income to finance her gym fees and nightlife expenses for partying with friends. She had a very athletic body and went to gym thrice a week. We started getting cozy with light kissing and then she taking charge. She knew her job well (I mean sex here, 555). She got me hard in seconds and gave me a good BBBJ. She licked all around and made no fuss or require any guidance. I was laying back and enjoying with my eyes closed. She then asked for rubber to which I said you must have brought along. Her face turned serious and rather than ruining the moment I handed her the sagami. She got it on my shaft with her mouth and took it all in while unrolling the rubber. I thought only oily or soapy girls did that. She rode me WOT and bended over to allow me access to her breasts and to kiss her. I got her to lie on the side. I could feel the moistness of her pussy while sliding my shaft inside her sideways. Continued for few minutes before I had to turn her to miss as I sensed I wouldn't last long. She was hot and wet and was kissing all over my face. I could continue only for a minute or so before she exploded grasping my hips hard. I couldn't control either and finished immediately. It was good sex. We cleaned up after few minutes and she left a happy girl with 300 baht tip.

    Overall experience 8 /10.

    Patpong:

    I had always wanted to visit patpong but had never ventured till now. This trip I had time as I didn't want to go to Nana or Soi Cowboy. I took the MRT to Silom and walked till patpong night market.

    Bada Bing:

    I entered and could see approx. 20 odd girls on the stage. Few more were seated with customers. Got myself a seat. This was a very good collection of girls I had seen on stage in some time. Slim gazelles all around. Not a single healthy or fat girl around. Lot of them were sporting body art (tattoos) though, don't like them much. I appreciate and like a girl with a clean body. A small tattoo on the hand or ankle or shoulder is ok. Can't take more than that. There were some really hot girls and I called one for a drink. The MO is same as Baccara so I had to wait till she stepped down from stage. She did when the girls changed but walked over to an East Asian guy smiling at me. He seemed to have called her first or she was sitting with him from before it seemed. I tried to look for another but my head was stuck on her. I settled the tab and decided to check on other bars.

    Electric Blue:

    I walked out of Bada Bing and walked over to Electric Blue which is exactly opposite. The moment I entered I knew I had made a mistake. There were hardly 4 or 5 girls on stage, of which one seemed good and none around sitting with customers. Either a lot of them had got bar fined or this place was no longer rocking. I settled down but none came to take my order. I walked out after 5 minutes. I strolled around the night market having a good look at all the bars. Most of them seemed to have 2 or 3 girls on stage and I didn't want to go in each of them and get drunk in the process. I decided to go back to Bada bing after strolling around for 30-40 minutes.

    I came back in and could see same no of girls on stage as earlier. The East Asian guy had left. I got a seat and ordered. I could then see the girl on stage whom I had called earlier. She saw me and smiled back. She had not got barfined.

    This time she came and sat beside me. Usual pleasantries. Her name was Aoy. She was a spinner, had a small tattoo on her lower back. Got her a tequila. Got her to warm up little. We chatted for some time, few more shots. I asked her if she could barfine to which she nodded positively. In the meantime her friend had joined our table, got her a shot as well. I then asked her whether she would be ok with LT. She refused and said she had to go to college in the morning. She could do ST though. Girls changed and she went up on stage. I had contemplated earlier and had decided LT as I was not sure if I could do another pop and enjoy. I wanted to play safe and keep an option for morning if I couldn't come in the night. I decided against barfining her and asked for my tab to be settled. The mamsan came to me and asked what happened. I told her that I was looking for a LT girl. She said she could find me one and got an average looking comparatively. I refused. I pointed at a couple of girls and they all seem to be ok with ST only. I paid and moved out. It was 11.30 pm and I went back to my room with the thought of hitting clubs later in the night. The total ST cost would have been approx. 3000 baht for the girl and 600 barfine. Didn't want to waste that kind of money without a good pop.

    Night: Climax

    I reached climax around 1 am. Crowd was much better comparatively. As soon as I entered I saw a cute girl standing near the stage and I walked up to her. Started talking to her and she responded. Her name was Patty. She then told me that her friends were there as well and she was going to join them. I followed her and she led me to a table right in front of the stage wherein 3 more girls were standing. I got introduced and the girl whom I had met was indeed the better one from the lot. We danced for some time and I was trying to build some chemistry which was working. I got her and myself another drink. I asked her if she wanted to go with me to which she smiled and nodded positively. I was happy. I asked her how much it would cost me. She said 2000 baht. I suddenly froze. This was definitely not the going price for LT without bargaining. I asked her how much time. She replied 1 time. I knew she was saying ST. I was surprised that LT was eluding me even in climax. I told her that I will give her 3000 if she stayed till morning. She refused saying she had a day job and cannot stay for more than 2 hours. I said bye and moved on. Got myself parked at the same spot as earlier night. Few mature ones recognized me from earlier night and tried to woo me by dancing but I wasn't interested. I waited for some time and took a round of the club. I couldn't see anyone to my liking and called it a night. Second night without LT in BKK. I must really be unlucky I thought.

  11. #32671

    A Week in LOS

    November 8 (Day 1: Sunday)

    I had booked Hotel Mermaid, Soi 29 again this time for my 3 night stay. I had asked for an early check-in and was provided. I had booked the Corner suite with balcony at cost of approx. 2850 baht per day. I had stayed at the Junior suite last time and it was too big a room without any separate living area hence was not much impressed. This room was very spacious with small kitchenette and a small balcony good enough for smoking and having a drink with your lady. Breakfast was bundled in the room cost and is very basic but just enough for my requirement.

    As usual staff was extremely friendly. Daytime as well as nighttime security guy were very courteous and helpful. The girl I got to my room was not asked for ID. They did have a register kept near the security guards desk if someone wanted to register.

    Afternoon: Mitu Massage:

    I had read about Mitu on the net earlier and feedback was good. I had planned to visit as my Japan trip does not seem to be in sight and this was the closest I was going to get to a Japanese soapland experience in BKK basis of what I had read. I didn't make any appointment and walked in around 4 pm. Mitu is located in S33 Hotel complex, to the right as you walkup the stairs. Exactly opposite to Akane Massage. I entered into a room with few seats on the left and a counter to the right. Noone seem to be around so I got myself seated. Within minutes a young lady walked up to me and asked if I had an appointment. I said no and she told me that it won't be a problem and got an ipad and handed over to me to check the girls available. The ipad has pics and category of each girl, primarily two, Nice and Excellent. The nice ones looked slightly mature or older in comparison. I was briefed on the pricing which is also available on their site. As I had come in before 5 pm there was a discount of 300 baht on Nice and 500 baht on Excellent category girl. I browsed through the pics and liked Hana. I asked the lady if Hana was available and she positively nodded. In the meantime the Manager walked in. He got chatting to me and assured me that irrespective of the girl I choose I will surely have a good time. He seemed to be a friendly dude. Felt quite reassuring. I chose Hana for a 90 min session. I was then led to another room besides and made to wait. The lady assisting me asked me that as I had selected an excellent girl and a 90 minute session they were offering the VIP room worth 1000 baht free. I thought room was already included in the 4300 baht I paid, nonetheless I didn't have to pay. She then disappeared and came back with the change and a small bottle of drink for me. She told me that it was similar to Red Bull so I opened it and gulped it down. Tasted like medicine.

    After 2 minutes Hana walked in and greeted me and likewise. Hana then led me upstairs on the 3rd Floor and got me into a room. Hana seemed to have grown a bit in terms of age and size compared to the pic I saw on Ipad. Hana told me to leave my footwear near the door and got me the rubber ones. She then left me in the room to get her box. The pic seemed about 2 or 3 year old in comparison. However she looked good in person and had be sized breast. Hana was wearing a kimono kinda gown without all the shrill and frills. I smoked till she got back and she waited for me to finish. Hana then asked me to take my street clothes off. She then folded them and kept away. Hana got me into the shower, gave me a good wash. We came back to the bed and got chatting waiting for the tub to fill in. Usual pleasantries, warming up the climate. The room was basic and had a bed on the left and bathtub and small area for the floatable mattress on the right. It didn't seem VIP like the ones we are used to seeing at the soapies on Ratchadaphisek Road. Hana got me into the tub, soaped me up and cleaned me again. Gave me a good BBBJ for few minutes and set the mood. She then got the mattress on the floor and got me to lie down. She lathered up a thick liquid soap in a small bowl. She massaged it all over my body and did body to body on me and got me into the mood. A good BBBJ followed by a WOT after slipping on the rubber. Switched to miss. We were slipping and sliding and it was kind getting difficult to hold ourselves on the rubber mattress which had gotten quite slippery due to the liquid soap. I got her into doggy and asked her to put her hands on the wall for support. Hana was moaning by now and asked me to push harder. I continued for few minutes and came. Hana got me into the tub and cleaned the soap of my body and asked me to go and rest on the bed.

    Hana shortly followed and lied next to me. We got into a chat again and she was lying close to me. It was GFE the way I like it. I continued to kiss her in between. She didn't do tongue to tongue DFK but was ok with kissing and so was I. We rested for some time and I took a small power nap for 10 odd minutes. I was woken up by her caressing of my jewels. She asked me if I was ready for a second round and I nodded. She then kissed me all over ending at my tool. Hana got me hard within minutes and was giving a good head. I handed over the sagami 0. 02 I had brought along and she seemed to be familiar with the rubber as she smiled looking at it. She rode me for a few minutes. We changed positions and I finished in doggy. Pretty exhausted I lied for few minutes kissing her. Cleaned up with a shower and left a very happy man. Hana saw me off at the inside waiting area. Both the Manager and lady asked me if I enjoyed the session to which I nodded smilingly.

    Overall experience 8 /10.

    The place is expensive compared to all the oilies around. However it is comparable to soapies and if one wants to avoid travel to soapies and stay in Sukhumvit then this is a good option. What I liked about Mitu is the assured good service and I got it. Not had to face any mood swing of the girl or CBJ.

    I had to get my currency changed and got a good rate as usual with the exchange guy above Thermae. Stocked up on some soda, chips and Oishi green tea which I really like. Spend time resting and exploring options on wechat and Badoo. Didn't quite click with anyone though. Went for dinner to the Chinese restaurant near the Philippine embassy reported by Natty earlier. Language was a major issue while ordering but I managed. Food was outstanding for the price.

    Night: Clubs

    Thermae:

    Having read the forum I thought I should give this bar a try. I walked in around 12 am. Got my beer. Took a round of the club. All I could see mostly was old hags. Few looked so tired that they were about to fall asleep there and then. I didn't lose hope and settled in the centre. The advantage here is that the lighting is ample and you get a good look at all the girls. Besides the girl stand in a big circle starting from the entrance and ending at the cashiers counter. Not being crowded I could see all the girls sitting at one spot. I spotted 2 girls one of which had already cozied up to an East Asian lad. The other one didn't seem to be making any eye contact. I spend about an hour waiting for more girls to come in but they didn't and I decided to move onto Levels.

    Levels:

    I walked up to levels from Thermae. The Sukhumvit street has now been rid of the street vendors in the night as well but sadly Mobile bars have taken over the footpath. Earlier they were concentrated near Asoke Junction. Now you can see them right upto soi 11. But there is more room to walk compared to earlier.

    I got into Levels. It was a Ladies night and guess what was missing, Ladies. There was hardly a crowd inside. Maybe 5 or 6 average or below average gals. I got myself a SML. And walked out to smoke. Few girls standing there but mainly accompanied by gents. It was a sad show. I somehow finished my beer and spend around an hour hoping some girls might walk in and maybe I might have a chance. Most of the clubs peak around 2 am so was holding on. None of it happened and I left bewildered.

    Climax:

    Paid the 300 baht entry and got in. Climax was pretty crowded and my spirit soared back again. Moved around looking for a good one. Didn't find any so settled in the standing area besides the drinks counter near the loo. I had a good view from here and could see all girls walk in and out of the loo or circling the club like us looking for possible prey. Funny part is every 10 minutes someone had to stumble on the elevated area while doing the round and gave me some humour. I stuck around for an hour here as well but it seemed that this night was going to be long and lonely. I called it a night and walked back to Hotel.

  12. #32670
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolvenvacht  [View Original Post]
    The "problem" is that Buddhism isn't very clear about many things.

    "Lying, theft and Sex outside of marriage"?

    The Cunda Kammaraputta Sutta (http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipit....176.than.html) elaborates:

    And how is one made pure in three ways by bodily action? There is the case where a certain person, abandoning the taking of life, abstains from the taking of life. He dwells with his... knife laid down, scrupulous, merciful, compassionate for the welfare of all living beings. Abandoning the taking of what is not given, he abstains from taking what is not given. He does not take, in the manner of a thief, things in a village or a wilderness that belong to others and have not been given by them. Abandoning sensual misconduct, he abstains from sensual misconduct. He does not get sexually involved with those who are protected by their mothers, their fathers, their brothers, their sisters, their relatives, or their Dhamma; those with husbands, those who entail punishments, or even those crowned with flowers by another man. This is how one is made pure in three ways by bodily action.

    It doesn't even mention "marriage", other than indirectly: one should not take another man's woman.

    "Drinking alcohol or taking drugs": again there is no clear rule, other than that one should never loose control of oneself, because that will break the above mentioned "right action" rule.

    Don't forget that Buddhism is not a religion. It is a filosophy of obtaining happiness, for oneself and for the world at large. The penalty of not following the rules is very simply: you will not get happy or other people will suffer. And the law of karma will determine if and where you are born again.

    Buddhism (at least the Thai variant) is a very personal matter. You cannot "buy" your good karma from someone else (the well-known bodhisattva in the Mahayana tradition of Buddhism) so you are the judge of your own actions (with karma being the ultimate arbitrator). That means that their moral philosophy is pretty flexible, a concept followers of monotheistice religions cannot really grasp as in those traditions morals are absolute since they are imposed by their supreme being.

    For example: my present Thai GF would not come to my hotel room because "Buddha says no". After one dinner and one day of visiting places around Chiang Rai, she moved in with me in my hotel for the rest of my vacation. I asked her why she suddenly changed her mind. She said I was a good man, "jai dee" and not trying to take advantage of her or other people. And Buddha obviously has no problem with having sex with a "good man". I love Buddhism!

    What we farang might see as breaking the rules, is in their mind just a re-evaluation of a flexible situation.
    It is hard to tell whether the incident reported in the linked news article is relevant to this discussion of Buddhism in practice or not, but I was reminded of this news report about a temple in Bangkok having stored around 2,000 aborted fetuses a few years ago. http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapc...fetuses.found/ What is not clear from the article is whether this was an aberrant isolated incident, or something that is more common.

    Ediit: I have since found a more detailed news story on this. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/20/wo...gkok.html?_r=0

  13. #32669
    Quote Originally Posted by BronzeMan  [View Original Post]
    Perhaps you misunderstand both my argument and what a strawman is. The point is that most Thai people violate nearly every precept of Buddhism on a regular basis. To claim an inability to get an abortion because it's not allowed in Buddhism is beyond absurd in a place where every other rule is broken with such regularity.

    Harming living things, lying, theft, sex outside of marriage and drinking alcohol or taking drugs are all against the rules in Buddhism. How many Thai people do you see refraining from those things?
    The "problem" is that Buddhism isn't very clear about many things.

    "Lying, theft and Sex outside of marriage"?

    The Cunda Kammaraputta Sutta (http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipit....176.than.html) elaborates:

    And how is one made pure in three ways by bodily action? There is the case where a certain person, abandoning the taking of life, abstains from the taking of life. He dwells with his... knife laid down, scrupulous, merciful, compassionate for the welfare of all living beings. Abandoning the taking of what is not given, he abstains from taking what is not given. He does not take, in the manner of a thief, things in a village or a wilderness that belong to others and have not been given by them. Abandoning sensual misconduct, he abstains from sensual misconduct. He does not get sexually involved with those who are protected by their mothers, their fathers, their brothers, their sisters, their relatives, or their Dhamma; those with husbands, those who entail punishments, or even those crowned with flowers by another man. This is how one is made pure in three ways by bodily action.

    It doesn't even mention "marriage", other than indirectly: one should not take another man's woman.

    "Drinking alcohol or taking drugs": again there is no clear rule, other than that one should never loose control of oneself, because that will break the above mentioned "right action" rule.

    Don't forget that Buddhism is not a religion. It is a filosophy of obtaining happiness, for oneself and for the world at large. The penalty of not following the rules is very simply: you will not get happy or other people will suffer. And the law of karma will determine if and where you are born again.

    Buddhism (at least the Thai variant) is a very personal matter. You cannot "buy" your good karma from someone else (the well-known bodhisattva in the Mahayana tradition of Buddhism) so you are the judge of your own actions (with karma being the ultimate arbitrator). That means that their moral philosophy is pretty flexible, a concept followers of monotheistice religions cannot really grasp as in those traditions morals are absolute since they are imposed by their supreme being.

    For example: my present Thai GF would not come to my hotel room because "Buddha says no". After one dinner and one day of visiting places around Chiang Rai, she moved in with me in my hotel for the rest of my vacation. I asked her why she suddenly changed her mind. She said I was a good man, "jai dee" and not trying to take advantage of her or other people. And Buddha obviously has no problem with having sex with a "good man". I love Buddhism!

    What we farang might see as breaking the rules, is in their mind just a re-evaluation of a flexible situation.

  14. #32668
    Quote Originally Posted by ParkVille  [View Original Post]
    Has there been an increase in working girls from Laos, Cambodia (rarely) and Myanmar? I seem to end up with non-Thai's a lot (not a complaint) and just kind of find that aspect of the "shadow economy" interesting. I feel like half the women I have picked from soapies / oillies were non-Thai in the past few months.

    My theory is that there is a bit of a talent shortage for the local brothels / pimps, and they are bringing in women from neighboring countries. I also hear that these places get busted for having women from these countries sometimes. For example, High Class was raided in 2012:http://bangkok.coconuts.co/news/poli...laos-and-burma.

    I also find it interesting that Nataree is near empty some days, yet filled up by the bus-load the next day. I wonder if that has something to do with them not having illegals working on certain days (like official inspection days).

    I've only been in Bangkok for about 2 years so maybe this has always been the norm:
    I would imagine it has a lot to do with Thailand being a multi ethnic country. There are isaan people, the khmer of surin, buriram and sisaket, the Lana, the suay, white Thai, black Thai, Malaya, Burmese, kachin, Karen, shan, etc etc etc numbering in the millions and many of these groups stretch across borders. As with anywhere in the world more and more people from rural areas are being drawn into the cities and since there isn't much well paying work many end up in the black and grey industries.

  15. #32667
    Quote Originally Posted by David_33  [View Original Post]
    Good Straw Man argument.
    Perhaps you misunderstand both my argument and what a strawman is. The point is that most Thai people violate nearly every precept of Buddhism on a regular basis. To claim an inability to get an abortion because it's not allowed in Buddhism is beyond absurd in a place where every other rule is broken with such regularity.

    Harming living things, lying, theft, sex outside of marriage and drinking alcohol or taking drugs are all against the rules in Buddhism. How many Thai people do you see refraining from those things?

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