Bangkok Reports

[Ehunter]

What happened to Gringo? This is another self serving load of horseshit posted by mr blow job under a different pseudonym.

Hey, are you always this paranoid?

There is a lot of quality content around here and you're just dragging things down.

I intend to post my experience on the Dr BJ venue. The review will be positive and I don't need you dragging my stuff through your own manure pile. So you stay away from my material and we will get along just fine.

Agreed?

[JerseyShoreSun]

GS,

It is actually cheaper or on par to fly to BKK on a low cost airline from any major metro india city like Mumbai, delhi or bengaluru than to fly within these cities. As the indian economy has boomed over the last several years, the increasing numbers of the middle class are taking to the air to discover south east asia. Open any leading indian newspaper and you will see dozens of tour companies advertising package deals that include BKK and Pattaya for like a 5 day trip for the equivalent of $500 USD or 15, 000 baht. This includes airfare, accomodation on a twin share basis and transportation and visits to certain tourist attractions.

In my last three trips to BKK I've seen a very different demographic of indian tourist discovering this great city. Saw a lot of young couples partying together at places like QBar and some of the rooftop venues around the sukhumvit tourist areas. Same was the trend at some of the late night discos. It is common knowledge here that for a good party at the more trendy and upmarket non P4P venues, it ends up being a much cheaper night out in BKK than in Mumbai or delhi.

The world is getting smaller every year and I totally agree that each year the percentage of non P4P indians travelling to Thailand as tourists will continue to increase IMHO.

Dr BJ, there are more tourists than ever in BKK for this time of year, but they are not the type of tourists that utilize P4P. I think this is the trend with bus loads of mainland Chinese and Indians. Hotels are my Soi are full of the former and the later, and that is odd for March.

[Franciscass]

I am not really sure whether I shall believe this numbers from the government agencies. I have my doubts.

Nevertheless. There are much more Asian customers in Bangkok right now, Mainland Chinese, Indians, Koreans, Japanese etc. Etc. There are much less Europeans in Bangkok this year, most likely because the financial crisis now hits Europe. Australians are here though, and Americans are returning step by step.

Besides the slow death of Soi 33 I also hear nothing positive from the bar owners in Cowboy, lower Sukhumvit and Soi 22. Business is in general down compared to last year, the lower number of farang tourist spend less, and the Asians usually do not visit the same areas. They also spend less.

Another problem is that nearly all bars and massage parlours have problems to recruit new girls. There is a massive shortage of girls. All bar owners with a business model that is based on girls / bar fines are complaining. In many gogo bars there are now coyote girls dancing, that are hired from specific recruitment agencies. Those girls dance, but they don't go with customers.

The higher quality girls have nearly disappeared from the well known farang-driven red light districts. Most of the girls that apply for jobs here at Livingstone's Lodge will NOT be hired. Because they simply don't fit in here. Behavior that disgusting, no style, it's unbelievable what's left on the market. The higher quality girls are now working in Japanese clubs (more money) and in the high end massage parlours of Rhatchadapisek and Phetchaburi Road. They charge THB 3, 500. 00. THB 7, 000. 00 per session.

Of course. If Dr. BJ increases the price of THB 1, 200. 00 for a blow job session (or even to THB 1, 500. 00) they will all come to work for Dr. BJ. For sure. !

Franciscass, I am not sure whether you really live in the same city as I do.

Giotto.

http://www.livingstoneslodge.com

Hi Giotto,

I bow to your superior knowledge of what's happening on the bars / girls scene. All I mentioned was that the lady who runs the Hillary group told me same store sales were up for her group. Definitely 33 is very very slow and unless there is a huge upgrade along with a large infusion of cash and talent the future is far from bright.

Good luck.

[Oidar]

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[Paul Kausch]

For some time Stickman has written about complaints from bar managers regarding the difficulty bars have attracting and retaining girls and that the demand for coyote dancers outstrips supply. Similarly he has chronicled the decline on Soi 33. One of my previous post also detailed that birth rates in Thailand have been declining for decades. No doubt this is having a significant impact on the number of young ladies seeking employment in the sex industry; and of course Thailand's strong economy is a factor.

Many sources state tourism is booming in Thailand, and Bangkok in particular. I mentioned in previous posts that international tourism data ranks Bangkok as the third most visited destination in the world after London and Paris. The following tables are national visitor data provided by the Department of Tourism data from the Government of Thailand.

Total visitors.

Year change.

2012 22, 303, 065 +15. 98 %

2011 19, 230, 470 +20. 67 %

2010 15, 936, 400 +12. 63 %

2009 14, 149, 841. 2.98 %

2008 14, 584, 220 +0. 83 %

2007 14, 464, 228 +4. 65 %

2006 13, 821, 802 +20. 01 %

2005 11, 516, 936. 1.15%

Visitors by country or territory.

Rank Country or territory 2012.

1 China 2, 789, 345.

2 Malaysia 2, 560, 963.

3 Japan 1, 371, 253.

4 Russia 1, 317, 387.

5 South Korea 1, 169, 131.

6 India 1, 015, 865.

7 Laos 951, 090.

8 Australia 930, 599.

9 United Kingdom 870, 164.

10 Singapore 821, 056.

11 United States 767, 420.

12 Germany 681, 566.

13 Vietnam 617, 804.

14 France 572, 996.

15 Hong Kong 472, 699.

16 Indonesia 448, 748.

17 Cambodia 424, 766.

18 Taiwan 394, 475.

19 Sweden 350, 565.

20 Philippines 288, 889.

It is notable that visitors from China, Japan and South Korea total 5, 329, 863, while visitors from Australia, United Kingdom, United States, Germany and France total 3, 822, 745; and if Russian visitors are added to the visitors from the preceding five countries the total only reaches 5, 140, 132, which is still less than the total visitors from the three East Asian countries. Most visitors from Malaysia, Laos, Cambodia and Philippines probably visit Thailand for reason other than tourism per se; though young women from these countries may be seeking employment in the sex industry. On my last trip I had sex with a girl from a Nana Plaza bar whom I am convinced was undocumented and from Cambodia.

Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and the oily / soapy massage parlors are not the primary attractions for most tourists; and assuming the number of mongers from East Asia is proportional to the mongers from the other six countries listed above over half of the mongers would be East Asians. M personal observations are consistent with these data. On my most recent trip in December I was struck by the large number of tourists who had nothing to do with the mongering scene and the large number of East Asians at Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy.

Gentlemen, the times they are a changing.

[Giotto]

Tourist numbers to Thailand has been on a steady increase with over 19 million in 2011, 22 million in 2012 and 24. 5 expected in 2013. Airport arrival stats for January and Febuary indicate this is roughly on target. The comment from the doc refers to Bangkok which is more difficult to measure but a conversation I had recently with the owner of the Hillary Group which operates numerous bars and clubs in the Lower Sukhumvit area told me that sales wwere up on a year ago. Perhaps he was referring to traffic to his own corner of the sand box.

I am not really sure whether I shall believe this numbers from the government agencies. I have my doubts.

Nevertheless. There are much more Asian customers in Bangkok right now, Mainland Chinese, Indians, Koreans, Japanese etc. Etc. There are much less Europeans in Bangkok this year, most likely because the financial crisis now hits Europe. Australians are here though, and Americans are returning step by step.

Besides the slow death of Soi 33 I also hear nothing positive from the bar owners in Cowboy, lower Sukhumvit and Soi 22. Business is in general down compared to last year, the lower number of farang tourist spend less, and the Asians usually do not visit the same areas. They also spend less.

Another problem is that nearly all bars and massage parlours have problems to recruit new girls. There is a massive shortage of girls. All bar owners with a business model that is based on girls / bar fines are complaining. In many gogo bars there are now coyote girls dancing, that are hired from specific recruitment agencies. Those girls dance, but they don't go with customers.

The higher quality girls have nearly disappeared from the well known farang-driven red light districts. Most of the girls that apply for jobs here at Livingstone's Lodge will NOT be hired. Because they simply don't fit in here. Behavior that disgusting, no style, it's unbelievable what's left on the market. The higher quality girls are now working in Japanese clubs (more money) and in the high end massage parlours of Rhatchadapisek and Phetchaburi Road. They charge THB 3, 500. 00. THB 7, 000. 00 per session.

Of course - if Dr. BJ increases the price of THB 1,200.00 for a blow job session (or even to THB 1,500.00) they will all come to work for Dr. BJ - for sure !

Franciscass, I am not sure whether you really live in the same city as I do.


Giotto
http://www.livingstoneslodge.com

[Giotto]

it's a matter of debate whether you speak for the majority. it does seem that when a member posts a less than flattering review of the doc's operation whether on the quality of service or the quality of the providers thay are immediaedly pounced on as having some conspiratorial hidden agenda. of late the scot himself has adopted a new ' i'm everybody's best new friend' persona in an attempt to encourage more traffic to his shops. and leaves the attacks on his detractors to his "surrogates".

franciscass,

thanks for giving dr. bj the forum and marketing tools he wants and he deserves. nothing is better for him than reports like yours, to which he can respond and even optimize his marketing strategy. believe me - i know what i am talking about. are you on his payroll ?

as for me. dr. bj is not "my best new friend" yet, but now i also decided to give him a try. i like his approach. makes absolutely sense to me, nothing wrong with that at all.

another of my issues is that he essentially upped the price of a bj to 1000. ok ok i know i know the nurses are 700 but they are so obviously inferior in looks to the so called consultants that i would hazard a guess that most punters end up paying the 1000 when at [CodeWord900] or sol or lollipop the same service with similar or superior quality would be 700 or 800.

ohh, we have to pay thb 100. 300 more than before? inflation caused by dr. bj? but. we can still go to sol or lollipop for 700 or 800. we don't need to go to dr. bj! what is your problem, man? hopefully the prices will rise more, that decreases the number of customers, and one day i will have all first class providers (if there are some) for me alone !

the purpose of the forum is to share and inform so that especially new arrivals are aware of the scene here. dr bj has his place in the scheme of things but what he provides most particularly in the quality of the girls is below average. this is simply a fact of life known to all who have visited soi7/1 and passed by his places. most long term residents familiar with both quality and pricing would i feel agree with this assessment.

i definitely disagree. i walk around in 7/1, 8 and patpong. i see the talent of the blow job bars, and i don't see big differences. beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and i am also not really sure that beauty is the most important issue in this kind of business. mouth related skills might be.

dr. bj, be prepared, i will visit your shop soon ! recommendation from franciscass !


giotto
http://www.livingstoneslodge.com

[Franciscass]

there are only 3 sad cases on this forum who personally attack me or my businesses. you, wolfhound and some guy called lotus 303, who seems to have disappeared recently. as for people who criticize being "pounced on" this is a figment of your imagination. i use this forum to promote my businesses? really? when the salon first opened i raised peoples awareness that it had newly opened, in other words i passed on useful information about a new venue. since then the only reference i have made to my businesses is to respond to a question or to make a correction when something has been wrongly stated. if it bothers you (and it obviously does because you mentioned it here) report me to the administrator and see what he has to say.

the vast majority of my posts have nothing to do with either of my businesses. i have no problem writing positive posts even when it concerns a competitor. i went to som's haven and gave a very objective opinion which was that the experience, venue and lady were very good. how many of your field reports would you consider to be helpful or informative?

i have lost count of the times i have said not everyone will enjoy their experience at a particular venue. people are indeed free to say they did not have an enjoyable time at one of my places. personal relationships? the first bm who introduced himself to me was back in december, that was just over a year after the salon opened. for some reason in the last two months more members have popped in for a chat and i have hit the town with some of them. going out to go-go bars hardly constitutes a personal relationship does it?

i use this forum to promote myself? i post about my paid for sexual experiences in an honest way on a forum for people to post about their paid for sexual experiences. can you give me specific examples of self promotion. every field report on this forum has similarities in some ways to mine. do you take issue with every fr and consider them to be self promoting? if this is the case why do you bother reading or posting at all. or perhaps it is only what i post that seems to irk you.

you prefer lollita's, lollipop or star of light due to looks and service, that is perfectly fine with me. we offer a different environment to these places. some people have come to the salon and told me they didn't enjoy the experience because the place is too clean, fine. the world would be a strange place if we were all attracted to the same type of lady.

the worst looking collection of ladies for a single venue in the whole of the bangkok sex industry work at the nuru place. now, the vast majority of people on this forum are pretty savvy and quickly lose all respect for people who continuously make ridiculous statements like you do. they see through you for the spiteful attacks you make. nothing you ever write about my businesses is even remotely objective, which is the reason very few people on here take you seriously.

the quality of my ladies is below average? and you tout this as a fact of life? i really thought you were much more intelligent than that, seems i was very mistaken. the quality of ladies in any establishment is subjective and a matter of personal opinion, not a fact. the height of mount everest, the distance from earth to the moon, the speed of light are all facts. cambodian ladies are more beautiful than laos ladies is an opinion.

you "feel" most long term residents would agree with your distorted assessment of my businesses based on price and quality. you "feel" which means you don't know which means you are guessing. seems very strange to me. i think it would be better if you speak for yourself and leave long term residents or anyone else to speak for themselves also.

this whole pointless post came about because someone called out another poster who contributed nothing to this forum and of his 20 or so posts, the ones which were not removed by an admin, were pathetic attacks directed at me. i am still trying to work out

bj

hooray you're back on the attack doc. i thought for a while there we had lost you, that you had gone through some kind of metamorphosis and changed into mr. nice guy only interested in showing newcomers the sights and sounds and engaging in your spare time in such lofty intellectual conversations such as how the geopolitical situation in asean effects the bj bar business in soi / 7 come 2015. however it didn't take long for mr. hyde to resurface but you know what i always preferred him to dr. jekyll. the only piece of advice i would offer if i may is to work on your paranoia doc, it really is not healthy for a man of your fragile disposition. i am not out to get you doc, just simply to point out the anomalies and inconsistencies in your methods of doing business so that readers can make up their own minds. as you say i actually help you so why so mean to me doc. ? lol

[Luvpuss]

[QUOTE=Zauberfee; 1396628]As a german guy who always flies to Thailand for mongering I agree and disagree at the same time.

If barebacking is your thing then go to FKK Arabella (

http://fkk-arabella.com/

) in Bochum-Wattenscheid, FKK Grimbergsanua (

http://www.grimbergsauna.com/1.htm

) in Gelsenkrichen, Villa Venus (

http://www.fkk-venus.com/site/1.html

) in Duisburg or FKK Alina (

http://www.fkk-alina.com/

) in Dorsten. They all have the same system: get a 3 shot ticket for about 100 € to 120 € or 4. 000 THB to 4. 800 THB and you can fuck 3 times. All girls (mostly from bulgaria or romania) do bareback, all do BBBJ (even in publc areas) , all do DFK, some do CIM and some do anal. Also including snacks and drinks.

That is good info.

I had to laugh. Including snacks and drinks. Pretty funny.

[Dr BJ]

it's a matter of debate whether you speak for the majority. it does seem that when a member posts a less than flattering review of the doc's operation whether on the quality of service or the quality of the providers thay are immediaedly pounced on as having some conspiratorial hidden agenda. of late the scot himself has adopted a new ' i'm everybody's best new friend' persona in an attempt to encourage more traffic to his shops. and leaves the attacks on his detractors to his "surrogates".

my issues with him is that he uses the forum more than anybody else to promote his business. that's ok. and some will like his place while others won't. those that don't have the right to post their experience without being ridiculed but he cannot accept the criticism and previously would personalise his response in a demeaning tone. now he leaves that to some members who seem to have some kind of personal relationship with him. if you use the forum to promote youself like he does, you have to live with the consequences, take the good with the not so good.

another of my issues is that he essentially upped the price of a bj to 1000. ok ok i know i know the nurses are 700 but they are so obviously inferior in looks to the so called consultants that i would hazard a guess that most punters end up paying the 1000 when at [CodeWord900] or sol or lollipop the same service with similar or superior quality would be 700 or 800.

also the oily which is in fact what nuru gel is is staffed by the least attractive crew in town in that p4p space but he charges as much if not more than shops like snow white, angle, ez etc where the talent is infinitely better. that said i do accept his places are clean and the service may be acceptable some of the time.

the purpose of the forum is to share and inform so that especially new arrivals are aware of the scene here. dr bj has his place in the scheme of things but what he provides most particularly in the quality of the girls is below average. this is simply a fact of life known to all who have visited soi7/1 and passed by his places. most long term residents familiar with both quality and pricing would i feel agree with this assessment.

there are only 3 sad cases on this forum who personally attack me or my businesses. you, wolfhound and some guy called lotus 303, who seems to have disappeared recently. as for people who criticize being "pounced on" this is a figment of your imagination. i use this forum to promote my businesses? really? when the salon first opened i raised peoples awareness that it had newly opened, in other words i passed on useful information about a new venue. since then the only reference i have made to my businesses is to respond to a question or to make a correction when something has been wrongly stated. if it bothers you (and it obviously does because you mentioned it here) report me to the administrator and see what he has to say.

the vast majority of my posts have nothing to do with either of my businesses. i have no problem writing positive posts even when it concerns a competitor. i went to som's haven and gave a very objective opinion which was that the experience, venue and lady were very good. how many of your field reports would you consider to be helpful or informative?

i have lost count of the times i have said not everyone will enjoy their experience at a particular venue. people are indeed free to say they did not have an enjoyable time at one of my places. personal relationships? the first bm who introduced himself to me was back in december, that was just over a year after the salon opened. for some reason in the last two months more members have popped in for a chat and i have hit the town with some of them. going out to go-go bars hardly constitutes a personal relationship does it?

i use this forum to promote myself? i post about my paid for sexual experiences in an honest way on a forum for people to post about their paid for sexual experiences. can you give me specific examples of self promotion. every field report on this forum has similarities in some ways to mine. do you take issue with every fr and consider them to be self promoting? if this is the case why do you bother reading or posting at all. or perhaps it is only what i post that seems to irk you.

you prefer lollita's, lollipop or star of light due to looks and service, that is perfectly fine with me. we offer a different environment to these places. some people have come to the salon and told me they didn't enjoy the experience because the place is too clean, fine. the world would be a strange place if we were all attracted to the same type of lady.

the worst looking collection of ladies for a single venue in the whole of the bangkok sex industry work at the nuru place. now, the vast majority of people on this forum are pretty savvy and quickly lose all respect for people who continuously make ridiculous statements like you do. they see through you for the spiteful attacks you make. nothing you ever write about my businesses is even remotely objective, which is the reason very few people on here take you seriously.

the quality of my ladies is below average? and you tout this as a fact of life? i really thought you were much more intelligent than that, seems i was very mistaken. the quality of ladies in any establishment is subjective and a matter of personal opinion, not a fact. the height of mount everest, the distance from earth to the moon, the speed of light are all facts. cambodian ladies are more beautiful than laos ladies is an opinion.

you "feel" most long term residents would agree with your distorted assessment of my businesses based on price and quality. you "feel" which means you don't know which means you are guessing. seems very strange to me. i think it would be better if you speak for yourself and leave long term residents or anyone else to speak for themselves also.

this whole pointless post came about because someone called out another poster who contributed nothing to this forum and of his 20 or so posts, the ones which were not removed by an admin, were pathetic attacks directed at me. i am still trying to work out your motivation.

you correctly stated that the purpose of this forum is to share and inform. please explain how your posts do either of these things? here is an example.

on sunday march 10 i went out with two forum members, skogis and used day. skogis does not do the go-go scene and asked me to show him around. first off we went to lollipop in nana. i was determined i was there purely as a guide and would not take a lady that night, i did buy a kamagra gel just in case as it is better to have a kamagra and not use it than to need one and not have it. next up we went to spanky's, i know the american guy who owns it and luckily he was there so we chatted for a few minutes. skogis and used day were impressed with the talent on show to the extent they bar fined a lady each. i was just about to suggest moving to angelwitch when this very good looking lady appeared on the dance area.

needless to say the remains of my resolve not to take a lady quickly evaporated. every physical attribute she had was exactly as i like it to be. we did make it to angelwitch and i had a chat with dave the rave who runs a few places in nana. very good selection of ladies on show and i made a mental note for a later date. dave treated me to a shot of alcoholic ribena, new experience for me and would recommend trying it.

quality of service from the lovely lady was very good, more gfe than pse which is exactly as i like it. had to give a few pointers on her bbbj technique which she responded to admirably. without any prompting she did the tongue tickle under the scrotum thing which was particularly good. she is very small in height, has a killer smile, is 24 and a body which fits my desires exactly.

name: withheld.

face: 8. 5/10.

tits: c cup. 9/10.

body: 9. 5/10 only imo.

ass: 9/10.

bbbj: 7. 5/10. had better and had much worse.

gfe: 8. 5/10.

attitude: 9/10.

enthusiasm: 9/10. personally i think these girls put in more effort when they know you live here as they are keen to snare a repeat customer for as long as possible.

wir: already have done.

cost: bf 600, drinks around 1, 500, 2.000 st which quickly became 3, 000 lt. total damage: 5, 100 and well worth it

some fine ladies on display at spanky's, i would recommend anyone to go in and check the place out.

regards.

bj

[GooberMonger]

Would you care to share from where and maybe a number or name? TIA.

Sorry mate never thought about it because she was a FL, but I could have got her number. Never boughtered because going home soon.

Anyway Noy at the Thermae, sorry no number, fun girl worth the 2K not bad GFE.

My bad. I'm new to posting my mongering or sharing. Well not really, but stopped posting about 7 or so years ago and just started again recently.

Cheers,

[Dr BJ]

We complain a lot on this forum about ongoing increases for services and drinks. The doc himself got agitated recently at such goings on at Nana Plaza.

That was a sarcastic reply to Harold complaining about a 10 baht increase in the price of drinks. I'm very surprised the humour was lost on you.

He introduced the childish ruse of having a few zombies on staff called nurses at 700 and charged a 1000 for so called consultants who were no better than the usual line up of unattractive women that one finds at BJ bars everywhere.

"Childish ruse" seems to be working well. The Salon is very busy every day of the week. Just out of curiosity what is it that motivates you to produce spiteful rants against everything I say or do? This has been your MO since the Salon opened. What you have yet to figure out is that attacking me is not going to damage my Businesses. People on here are generally more intelligent than you are giving them due credit for. All you do is raise my profile and spark interest in my businesses, which translates into more customers for which I must thank you. Please keep spewing your unfounded bile.

I did have a giggle at your previous post saying the girls at SOL were much more attractive than the ladies who work in the Salon.

I live here,

More's the pity.

I suggest you find another cause to champion, world peace comes to mind and let doc speak for himself.

I don't think he is championing a cause. Rather he is highlighting your [CodeWord140]-poor logic which seems to be based on some odd dislike you have for me. So are you asking members not to comment on a post regarding me or my businesses, regardless of how spiteful or idiotic it is?

Regards,

BJ

[Pointy Stick]

we complain a lot on this forum about ongoing increases for services and drinks. the doc himself got agitated recently at such goings on at nana plaza. it's simply a fact that before dr bj opened bj bars were charging 700 for service. ([CodeWord901]'s since upped their price to 800 although i hear 700 is still possible.). he introduced the childish ruse of having a few zombies on staff called nurses at 700 and charged a 1000 for so called consultants who were no better than the usual line up of unattractive women that one finds at bj bars everywhere. i live here, know pricing, enjoy the mongering mostly freelancers and oilies and consider 300 baht a tip at a good restaurant. i suggest you find another cause to champion, world peace comes to mind and let doc speak for himself.

i like the idea of having tiered pricing in bj bar. given the abysmal looking talent at [CodeWord900] and sol there is definite need to attract lookers to this industry niche. it's a solution that works for everyone from impoverished english teachers who can't afford the extra 300 bht but still need to get some action have some to those who wish to pay for quality suction. just because you have to eat spam doesn't mean i should do too. [CodeWord900] and sol haven't closed up shop and nobody is forcing you to pay 1000 bht for a bj so i don't think your complaints are valid. it's good to see someone who is prepared to innovate.

to be honest i don't give a shit about pricing anymore for locals. i'm not going to passup a hottie while on holiday here just because she's asking more than the aforementioned impoverished can afford. if that's an issue then it time to get another better paying job or maybe stop your high-rolling tipping and use the money for something more useful (like quality bbbj's maybe?).

actually in a way its good that prices are going up. sure its bad for mongers like myself but it indicates that thailand is becoming wealthier which is a good thing for any society.

[Francesco24]

a question about thermae, what time girls start arriving there? is it a location for day time pick up too or only night time?

btw i am planning to visit dr bj shop soon and i'll post my experience. so far my visits at [CodeWord900] and sol weren't very good.

[Franciscass]

for 700 bht at sol you have the option of getting blown in a seedy bathroom or at the bar next to some fat dude (sorry nickf). although they have some real talent there.

for 800 bht at [CodeWord900] (imho) it with an untalented farm girl straight off the bus from isaan.

if anybody has had the pleasure of ee (reviewed recently) at dr bj's then the 300 bht extra or 9usd is well worth paying. if you're complaining about chump change after spending possibly a thousand dollars fling to los then you should review your priorities in life.

we complain a lot on this forum about ongoing increases for services and drinks. the doc himself got agitated recently at such goings on at nana plaza. it's simply a fact that before dr bj opened bj bars were charging 700 for service. ([CodeWord901]'s since upped their price to 800 although i hear 700 is still possible.). he introduced the childish ruse of having a few zombies on staff called nurses at 700 and charged a 1000 for so called consultants who were no better than the usual line up of unattractive women that one finds at bj bars everywhere. i live here, know pricing, enjoy the mongering mostly freelancers and oilies and consider 300 baht a tip at a good restaurant. i suggest you find another cause to champion, world peace comes to mind and let doc speak for himself.