Bangkok Reports

[Newton York]

First of all, shout out to Newton York for his detailed treasure trove of a report.

Thanks for the shout out StrikerAZ, the fact that more fellow forum members like full reports like mine than don't, speak to the efficacy of such writing,*although*I know I could definitely be more succinct. In the end it's all about how much info is imparted. The more varied experiences the better I feel. Once we have all experienced some of the better girls and report on them, means less of us will experience the bad ones. Each successive trip I take to Bangkok gets better than the last, I'm hoping the next one I take will be so good my head will explode. Your reports are very helpful too, I'm taking notes for the next time I'm in Bangkok, Jesus H Christ willing. It's going to be a real uphill battle to get my shit together so I can get myself on a plane back to Thailand, but by Zeus, I have to try. *.

[EihTooms]

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Thermae.

I've read a lot about Thermae on this forum and wanted to try something different from the usual massage place or go go bar. Which incidentally I still haven't been to a go go bar.

Thermae opens at 20:00 so I took a nap to regain some energy. At about 19:30 I took my dose of Kamagra and headed out. By the time I got there, which I didn't realize was right next door to Southeast Pharmacy, the place was already pretty packed.

First thing when you walk down to the basement to enter is a guy turning you towards the bar to buy your required 1 drink. I paid 120 be for a beer and then turned around to survey the place.

The majority of the girls stood by the walls or booths on the perimeter of the room. The center area has bar tops where a lot of guys seem to be sitting and nursing their beers while gawking at the girls. It feels oddly like a high school dance except all the socially awkward kids are in the middle and the pretty girls were the wall flies. Like other posters have mentioned, the vast majority of johns were East Asians. Think Japanese, Korean, and a sprinkling of Chinese. There were also some Indians but I don't really recall seeing any white guys. The girls won't approach you, they will only make eye contact and might smile at you, so it's up to you to take the initiative and approach them to being negotiations.

It also reminded me of a school of fish in the ocean. There were groups of guys that would circle the room checking out the girls and it was always in the clockwise direction. It was pretty funny seeing the action.

As mentioned earlier I'm a romantic so I started making my approaches asking for Long Time. It was early so half the girls I talked to only wanted Short Time. Of the ones were willing to go LT, I got quoted anywhere from 7000 to 10000. Some wanted to leave at 04:00 and other were willing to stay until 07:00. After I got the price, I started asking for my requirements such as DFK, BBBJ, DATY, etc etc.

These girls are all Freelancers, with day jobs, so they can set their own price and conditions. Seven unsuccessful attempts later, I finally found one that met all my requirements. 7000 LT, braces, 152 cm, 46 kg, looks to be in her early 20's but is actually 30, her name is Ai. I know, I know, 7000 is a lot but by that time I was fatigued by all the choices and just wanted to get back to my hotel room with a lady and I've never been with a brace face before. By the time I left with my girl, it was 20:45 and I've only seen a handful of guys leave the bar with a girl. Most of the other guys were still awkwardly staring at the girls and nursing their drinks.

As soon as we stepped out on to the street, we were approached by the taxi rank representative. He asked me where we were going and I was quoted 200 be to get back to the Hilton. I already knew it was overpriced but at that point I didn't care. Ai and I made some small talk during the ride and her English was pretty decent. It didn't take long to get ack to the Hotel and I speed walked us past reception and to the elevator, since I wasn't sure if the hotel was guest friendly.

We got up to my hotel room without incident and Ai proceeded to make herself at home. After some small talk she went to take a shower and get herself ready. When she was done I went for a shower as well. I got out of the shower and she was already under the covers.

I should also mention I'm clean shaven down under, and girls seem to appreciate this and makes you look safer disease wise and makes them more willing perform extra services.

She began with the usual routine, kissing and licking my nipples, then stroking my cock. This led to licking of my balls and shaft. After I bit I guided her up and proceed with some passionate DFK. I flipped her on her back and kissed and licked her body all the way down to her pussy, which was all natural and unshaven. She was a bit embarrassed so she held her pussy hair out of the way while I ate her out. I dined down there for a good 15 minutes and she really seemed to enjoy it. I would have kept going but she stopped me as she was getting too sensitive.

It was my turn so she put a condom on my cock and we started with missionary. We tried various positions with her on her back for about 10-15 minutes. I've had a few drinks before hand so it was taking a while to cum and I think she was getting sore because after a bit she said it was getting painful. We settled on sideways spoon and after 3 minutes I finished. She jumped up and ran to the bathroom while saying, so much cum, so much cum. I found it hilarious.

After we both cleaned up, we headed out to grab some food since I was feeling a bit peckish. It was late and a lot of shops are closed so choices were limited. We ended up at a restaurant called Great Shanghai that was still open. I ordered 2 dishes, 2 eggs, rice, and 2 drinks. Total damage was 280 be.

Once we filled up we headed back to the hotel for round 2. Like before, made some small talk. She showed me photo of her family including her fat older sister and the sister's trans boyfriend. She also told me she was 1 of 6 siblings. She had a Japanese ex-boyfriend etc etc. She dislikes alcohol but was vaping the whole time while in my room haha.

02:00 rolled around and I was ready for round 2, so we got in bed and proceed to do the deed. I finished quicker this time and she made her run to the bathroom right after wards. She got cleaned up and we parted ways at around 03:00. I could have held her longer but she had an hour ride back to her home and I was feeling tired anyways. I got her line and phone number and we agreed to meet again the next day.

I think I've already written too much so I'll save to the rest for another post. To be continued.

Considering the hotter Thermae girls command 3,000+ for Short Times likely using up 1-2 hours of their time, I don't see getting 6+ hours of their time for 7,000 baht as a bad deal.

However, that is assuming you got what you wanted in the deal, including the "etc etc" part in the below quote:

After I got the price, I started asking for my requirements such as DFK, BBBJ, DATY, etc etc.
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It was my turn so she put a condom on my cock and we started with missionary.
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We settled on sideways spoon and after 3 minutes I finished. She jumped up and ran to the bathroom while saying, so much cum, so much cum. I found it hilarious.

And that is where the Devil in the Details comes up in that "etc etc" part for me. Granted, my experiences wearing a condom during sex are few relative to the thousands of girls and sex sessions I've had. But her complaint about so much cum, so much cum and racing to the toilet to deal with it, twice, just doesn't jive with what I thought was the purpose of a condom.

Did we miss an important Devilish Detail in that "etc etc" part?

Haha. No matter. You are not required to answer anything asked here, of course. And, as I said, the only thing that matters is that you got what you wanted in the deal.

Now, for ME, that "etc etc" part would definitely have included the LT you got for at least that amount of time and the DFK, BBBJ and DATY you mentioned. But I would have needed to hear a clear and unambiguous Yes to her pussy being shaved, fine to do it in my toilet if not done already, and BBFS+CIP. And a 2nd pop, if I felt up to it, would need to be BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, all agreed to upfront before I leave with her and, naturally, assuming I am smitten by her looks and demeanor.

Then I would not feel a 7,000 baht price was too much at all. Whether or not she spends some of the time playing on her phone or staring at her toes is really immaterial to me as long as the details stated above are met at the times I want them.

Sure, I can find cuties who will do all of that for me and actually stay for a true overnight LT from 7 pm until 10 am -11 am the next day for 2,500 - 3,000 baht. But that is not necessarily the same as simply walking into Thermae, scanning the lineup and taking a new hottie for all of my requirements for pretty close to what many trial and error gogo bar hops cost in a night.

[Tim Timms]

Re 7000 shop girl.

The Glaring blunder I see is paying Superstar prices for a Shop girl.

The Avg shop girl is Soi Pattaya quality.

I know there are exceptions but I haven't seen one yet.

Probably has a Norwegian funding her shop. One of those instances that make less Logic.

If she was Hot why is she tending Shop. One woman shops get No customers.

[11Bravo]

I asked her if she wanted to have dinner at 19:30 but like most of the Free Lance girls at Thermae they have day jobs and she has work until 20:00. We settled on meeting at 21:00 at my hotel and we can decide what to do from there.

Ai texts me at 21:00 that she is down in the hotel lobby, so I go down to bring her back to my room. She was dressed in a little black to and black skater skirt, very cute if I do say so. She mentioned that she worked all day and since she was the only one in her clothing store she was quite tired. I then made the suggestion that we go get massages since there were plenty of shops just down the street.

My first choice was Nature Thai Massage but when I inquired, the receptionist said they were fully booked that night. So I decided to go next door to Thai Thai massage. They had plenty of masseuses and I opted for the 90 minute Thai massage for 600 pp. The massage was painful and not very private, but it did relieve some tension in my body. The masseuses were talking to each other throughout the session so it wasn't as serene as I had in mind. We finished up the massage and then headed back to the hotel.

Once in the hotel room, Ai made herself comfortable again. It was at this point that I realize I should have a soft limit of repeat encounters with any one lady. They seem to get too comfortable with me and that slight edge of anticipation and apprehension is no longer there. I say this because Ai plops herself down on the chair and start browsing Facebook and TikTok. She doesn't make any move to undress, she's vaping while playing on her phone, and it just feels like she's sitting on her couch at home relaxing. I hop in the shower hoping she takes a hint, and she does! When I got out she also went to take a shower and joined me in bed once she was done.

What followed was a bit disappointing. She did her routine of licking nipples, stroking cock, licking shaft and ballsack, but no BJ. She said she didn't like the taste of the penis. Ok, no problem, I'm not too big a fan of amateur BJ anyways, so we skip to the main event. I flipped her on the back and start DFK, then licking her breast and nipples, slowly working my way down to her pussy. This is when she stopped me saying that her pussy was too sensitive and she didn't want me licking down there. Hmm, okay fine, I won't force her to do something she's not comfortable with. So we go to the standard missionary position. I go for a good 5 minutes but I can tell she was just not that into it this time around. I finish up in about another 3 minutes, cumming on her belly, and she did her run to the bathroom to clean up.

After the shower, she started putting her clothes on, so I could tell she wanted to leave. Since it was only one pop, I was wondering if there would be a discount. I asked her how much and laughs at me and says same as last night! No discount for me. 7000 be again. I give her the money, she says thanks, and she leaves.

The FIRST 7000 k ... OK, new, and didn't do Professor Kingsfield's reading assignment to find out prices. Yes, Thermae MIGHT carry a premium, but given the going quote of a LT agogo lady is 5 K, plus 1 K bar fine, perhaps not SO out of line for a TRUE LT. Like you said, you were tired, wanted to get back to the room to enjoy, and DID enjoy. So, OK for a FIRST time, but learn from your mistakes before the 2nd time. BUT, and that's a BIG BUT... a number of mistakes, perhaps MORE than you realize, on that 2nd time.

1. Taking her for a massage might, in your eyes, be being nice, but a waste of together time, and really labeling you a mark. Granted, you are paying for her time, not necessarily sex, so how you want to use it is up to you, but for what? Especially since she told you she has a day job. I have pulled a few of those and an EARLY morning wake up, I understand though I don't enjoy. So ALWAYS ask what her departure time will be. Some girls define LT as "until you fall asleep". Realize the limitations of someone who has a day job especially if she a)has to work the next day, and b)is coming from a day's work.

2. The phone goes away when she's with you. With me, 1st time is a yellow card, 2nd time RED. Complacency is always a danger with repeat business and best to cut it short if it appears.

3. She gets dressed and wants to leave. HERE'S where the mistakes really start to compound. Fine, I NEVER keep a girl prisoner; when she wants to leave, up to her. But I DON'T ask her about a discount. I simply hand her MY ST price. When, NOT if, she complains, I point out the early departure, the 1 shot, etc., etc. And I HAVE done it. One NEVER spoke to me again. In the bar, I was definitely wearing a cloak of invisibility. No problem, I wouldn't pull her again anyway (but it was funny, and me laughing I'm sure didn't help improve things).

And NOW, another POTENTIAL consequence, and I speak from personal EXPERIENCE: she tells her friends that you'll pay 7 k for ST, 1 shot. Believe me, they share intel. You can overcome it, but it does take a lot of work and explaining as when you offer less, the girl thinks you're disrespecting her. I explained I had paid in advance (DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB, but every lesson has to be relearned eventually), and she had changed LT to ST. If she doubted me, she could ask any number of my other acquaintances there. So be prepared for some additional blowback.

You started off well, asking menu, settling on price BEFORE leaving the bar. If you were communicating by Line, I'd have reconfirmed the parameters of the meet BEFORE confirming the 2nd meet, especially for someone with a day job just off of work.

And FORGET the romantic bit. It's BUSINESS, you shouldn't be trying to woo her, she should be convincing you to sign her. You can have fun, and a GFE, just remember it's a pseudo-GFE, you don't have to put up with her crap. I never force a girl to do something she doesn't want to do, but if she's agreed to something and then reneges, then, if it's an act, that's a no repeat, if it's a change in departure, that's a pay cut.

I'm going to BKK next week (was just there in August, prices already skyrocketing, and service plummeting.), and I can already anticipate what a hit it's going to be on the budget now that guys are just throwing big bills at these girls. 7000 for overnight is to be reserved for special hotties. I hope they don't start quoting that price for ST now!

Those outside the 5 standard deviation paydays never phase me. She can quote any price she likes. Now MY price for HER experience that night is up to ME. If we can come to an agreement, fine. If not, I just smile, tell her "good luck" and move on. They are very astute and catch on quickly if you're not a newbie (though it can be fun to tell her it's your 1st time here, you just arrived today, and watch her eyes spin around like slot machine wheels, then watch them slowly stop spinning as she figures out you're just joking). Like you say, many other opportunities available.

[11Bravo]

The one thing that stood out throughout my stay here is the realization that while it's great to have a plan on what to do and when, there's no NEED to follow it. Just do whatever whenever and have fun and enjoyment doing it. In any case, the past few days were actually spent eating and sightseeing and eating some more. Other than a visit to Sakura Asakuri for a salt massage and happy ending, the desire to go to the dens of physical pleasures and desires were not a high priority. So, any regrets? Yes, I couldn't visit the more outlying night markets. And yes, I do hope to return at some point in the future to see the rest of the country. However, now that travelling is allowed, I'm probably going to visit other Asian countries as well. Malaysia (where I have family and friends), Vietnam (food & sightseeing) and maybe Philippines (food, sightseeing and sex, providing I'm still unattached).

Like the kid in a candy store, the first time you run in and want to fill every pocket with candy. But after awhile, you look around and see other shops, there's an art gallery, a market, a food court (without McDonalds, Subway, Burger King, etc.). Your eyes open, lose their fixated stare, and focus on the WORLD around you ....

Myself, whenever I start out, I do have a target in mind. But if I get distracted, so what? Or if the primary target is unavailable, obscured by clouds, then there's a secondary ... or look for targets of opportunity ... What's the old cliche, "The best laid plans of mice and men ..." I rely on my good luck and serendipity (think she used to work at Tulip). My current fav was found by chance 3 years ago on my previous visit. Had gone to Soi 7's Beer Garden (even back then, faded, but the occasional potential). Nothing there, so decided to make the pilgrimage... walking from Soi 7 to Soi 26 rather than take the sky train, stopping at all the usual places: soi 23, soi 22, soi 24, soi 24-1, soi 26 ... In my meanderings, stopped by an attractive face, her smile instantly had me sold. It didn't take months to develop a rapport; by the 3rd time in 3 weeks it was there. So just walking around, keeping your eyes open, many possibilities for MANY things.

For travel:

1. Highest on the neighbor's list would be Myanmar; unfortunately closed for all practical purposes, at least for me. Fascinating country. Modern Yangon, traditional Mandalay, incredible Bagan (take the boat from Mandalay), Inle lake, the hill stations ... Don't take a bus between Yangon and Mandalay, beautiful 8 lane highway that passes through nothing. Better to take the train. Slow, but like being in a 3D National Geographic travelogue. What I will never forget is how they carry EVERYTHING perched on their heads. Once saw 3 girls with bags on their heads. I figured laundry, MAYBE rice. It was fist sized stones for a temple being built. Haven't been back for 7 years, but people amazingly friendly. Real shame what's happened.

2. Cambodia, particularly Angkor Wat. That is a bucket list item. I've been meaning to go back; my visit was 25 years ago and a number of outlying temples were off-limits due to mines. But believe most have been cleared. Phnom Penh worth a visit for the genocide museum, the art-deco market, the museum, and the river walks. Nothing to be seen at the actual killing fields.

3. Malaysia interesting. Many tourist sites, lived there for a year. Unfortunately, KL's Beach Club closed, was a real Asian smorgasbord....

4. Laos worth a visit; haven't been back to Vietnam yet.

Will miss your FR's. A hearty well done and safe journey.

[EihTooms]

Thanks for the info. I never knew about the girls and students in the park. I would love to chat with them. I have done this in China and Japan, and got lucky.

You can get into that park to walk around from various entrances near Chatuchak Market, but the last 2 times I exited at the Mo Chit BTS station the gate into the park at the bottom of the stairs and right next to the MRT Chatuchak station entrance / exit was closed and everyone had to walk around on the sidewalk to another entrance into the market grounds.

I could be wrong about an entrance to the park near that Mo Chit BTS exit. I was with a friend and didn't really want to explore around to find another one in the heat of the day so we just went with the flow of foot traffic along the sidewalk to a market entrance.

But it seems to me that entrance gate to the park that I also liked, allowing for an easy stroll through the park to get to the market grounds, has been closed since the Covid closures and still had not been reopened as of last weekend.

[Tim Timms]

Have to agree with you. I was in Thailand for a long time this past summer and like you I did a lot of eating, massages, sightseeing and relaxing and not nearly as much smashing as I thought I would. It gets kind of old when you have it at your fingertips anytime you want, so spacing it out worked better for me. I seriously don't get how guys session so much, just seems forced and not has enjoyable.

Also like you, my next trip to SEA will include other countries as well as I see countries like the Philippines just recently lifting restrictions. I still plan to come to Thailand on any SEA trip, but it won't be for as long.

Hit it on the Head bro. Sex with Bargirls gets old real fast.

That's where Chemistry comes in. It never gets old.

[Tim Timms]

Report #53585

7 K ST two nights in a row. Ridiculous.

Look on the bright side.

For every transaction, ex 7000 long time with an uninterested girl who work shop there are 100,000 east Asian intent on keeping pricing in order. Hahaha.

[Tomasb]

Report #53585

7 K ST two nights in a row. Ridiculous.

[CaliGuy33]

So, this is my last night in Bangkok. I had originally slated to have a last hurrah in Doki Doki. But after a great satisfying feed, the desire to sow the seeds kinda waned. I guess I'm totally tapped out sexually. I also noticed that I'm NOT a night owl. All the plans to even walk by Soi Cowboy and Thermae flew out the window.

While all the plans were made and researched for days and nights of sex, sex and more sex were made, most of it never came to fruition. It was more massage, massage, food and shopping and sex was more incidental mainly connected to massage! Even with things not going to plan, I certainly did have a great time! So thank you to those who contributed to the forum as your information proved very useful (though not all of it was acted on).

The one thing that stood out throughout my stay here is the realization that while it's great to have a plan on what to do and when, there's no NEED to follow it. Just do whatever whenever and have fun and enjoyment doing it. In any case, the past few days were actually spent eating and sightseeing and eating some more. Other than a visit to Sakura Asakuri for a salt massage and happy ending, the desire to go to the dens of physical pleasures and desires were not a high priority. So, any regrets? Yes, I couldn't visit the more outlying night markets.

Have to agree with you. I was in Thailand for a long time this past summer and like you I did a lot of eating, massages, sightseeing and relaxing and not nearly as much smashing as I thought I would. It gets kind of old when you have it at your fingertips anytime you want, so spacing it out worked better for me. I seriously don't get how guys session so much, just seems forced and not has enjoyable.

Also like you, my next trip to SEA will include other countries as well as I see countries like the Philippines just recently lifting restrictions. I still plan to come to Thailand on any SEA trip, but it won't be for as long.

[FunMan13]

I much prefer the Mo Chit stop. A walk through the park is a wonderful experience with gaggles of girls and students and its probably not even 300 meters walk. I love when the college girls in the Park spy me, a unique looking foreigner, and want to practice their English.

BTW, if you want to see where the HiSo Thais shop, go to Or Tor Kor market which is right below Chatuchac on the MRT.

Thanks for the info. I never knew about the girls and students in the park. I would love to chat with them. I have done this in China and Japan, and got lucky.

[EihTooms]

Oh, you of little faith Eihtooms.

Disney did say that dreams may come true.

Wasn't it a cricket who sang about that? Yeah, in that one a cat kissed a goldfish. Great hand drawn animation though.

[EihTooms]

Don't think its a good idea to encourage such behavior. As per Mr Newtons reports most Girls will be cold and standoffish.

The Reality rarely delivers on the DREAM.

Encourage what behavior? Merely asking for clarification on what a supposed "body bliss" agency or P4P provider means by, in that case, "ensuring all their customers' dreams come true"?

They aren't shy about slinging bullshit around on what they're charging customers money for, so customers shouldn't be shy about telling them what they'd like to get for that money.

[EihTooms]

I asked if they had any girls who did sex without condom and they replied, "No have."

Thanks for the followup.

It appears that Body Bliss Bangkok Agency is only prepared to "ensure their customers have all of their dreams fulfilled" as long as all of their customers' dreams are rather puny and, among other things, don't have anything to do with the bliss of feeling the skin of their penis coming in contact with the inside of a vagina.

[Volterra]

DAY 3.

After the shower, she started putting her clothes on, so I could tell she wanted to leave. Since it was only one pop, I was wondering if there would be a discount. I asked her how much and laughs at me and says same as last night! No discount for me. 7000 be again. I give her the money, she says thanks, and she leaves.

We talked earlier about going to Kashikiri Soda Onsen the next day, but after tonight's experience I wasn't willing to shell out another 7000 be and at least 3000 be for the Onsen just for the pleasure of her company.

StrikerAZ, I'm glad you had a good time with your newfound princess Ai, but to be candid, you paid too much for the first session, and the 2nd one with only one pop for 7000 is out of bounds! I hope you'll take this the right way. From a fellow bro who also has to learn some hard lessons: Learn your hard lessons well! She came calling for you the next day because she'd identified you as easy money from the night before. I think 11 Bravo was being nice to you when he said it was ok for her to leave at 3 the first night, especially after you gave her the takeout dinner.

Make sure you define the terms and conditions beforehand, even for (especially for) girls you've already been with. You can't take the first encounter for granted as setting follow up T&Cs. More importantly, don't follow up with an FL the night after your first encounter. Bangkok has so many choices. Just politely tell her you're busy and go hunting for better bargains until you know how to play the game better.

I'm getting grumpier and grumpier as I see my beloved bros pushing up prices and expectations by the day. Hell!

I'm going to BKK next week (was just there in August, prices already skyrocketing, and service plummeting.), and I can already anticipate what a hit it's going to be on the budget now that guys are just throwing big bills at these girls. 7000 for overnight is to be reserved for special hotties. I hope they don't start quoting that price for ST now!